his party for purity testing and preferred language not spoken in much of our country. on a podcast, fred wellman, west point graduate, harvard degree, executive director of the lincoln project. don't talk to him about normal. >> i want to go back to normal. look at media, i love the media but political media is challenging. want to go back to the norm. of course there's both sides. sure trump did horrible things but joe biden flies to delaware for the weekend, clearly it's the same. that's -- they want to go back to normal, don't want to say well that guy was a lying [ bleep ], but gosh vice president harris said have a good little weekend. same thing. this desire to go to normal. we as americans don't simply see it. don't see so much of what we believe in is lying on this fake