>> it's interesting, miss ramos is absolutely right how there appears to be this hierarchy once you get to a certain level, they filter out people of color and women and gays. in my experience, which came inside the u.s. military intelligence community, i was in my time over 20 years only one of four maybe five african-americans working this extremely secretive world linguistics and code breaking. they work very hard the people within that community to suss us out. one of the best that ever existed did get out you know due to a lot of pressure. they took future talk show host montel williams, former code breaker, russian linguist, working in the national security agency. you wouldn't know that. >> right. >> but the point is this, there is a system that has been put in place. my family has served non-stop in the armed forces since 1864.