been with for a longer period of time. the been allied with for a long period of time. and in ted kennedy's case, hillary clinton turning against her to endorse barack obama. you saw colin powell turn against his 25-year friend john mccain to endorse barack obama. >> right. and i think lawrence, it's important because they thought in both cases that they were moving towards a brand of politics, you know, in obama, that was more optimistic, more idealistic if not totally pure. something more noble. when ted kennedy turned against the clintons, it because of what he saw him do in that race, in nevada in, south carolina. ted kennedy was disgusted by bill clinton's race baiting in the race. and a large part of what pushed hum into the arms of obama was a rejection of that kind of politics. similarly with colin powell. powell had been watching, had been -- for two years obama and mccain had both been lobbying