-- four new her power and was comfortable in doing that and saying that to her two beautiful daughters, but knowing that she was speaking to women all over the place. i think that women anywhere in the world want to hear that statement and feel something deep inside their soul. maybe she was demonstrating a path for other people to talk about. this really is difficult. because unless you admit it's difficult you cannot remedy how difficult it actually haters. >> i will say as a working mom, it is insanely hard, and i make more mistakes than right moves. michelle norris, and mayor aileen, thank you for joining us tonight. >> and q. >> coming up, we will pick up where we left off in that conversation. and at the log of sorts, to judge the difficulty of balancing work and motherhood. forget all the racist babies nonsense, because tonight's last word is all about white matters, and in this historic nomination, in this case, a picture speaks 1000 words.