we've talked about this before, how it's not about the individual behavior of white or black man, it is about the systemic racism that is embedded in this country's history, and its institutions, like the police. why is that such a difficult distinction for so many people to make? >> frankly, this is precisely the question that critical race theorists have been asking since the 70s. we were coming into the law exactly at the time that the conceptualization of what racism is, the idea that it's just individual bias against people of a different race. that was narrowing the understanding of racism. it should not be a surprise to people that individual black people can actually do anti black things. everybody who knows the history of enslavement, anybody who knows the history of policing knows that black people can do anti black things. but we were also trying to bring into the conversation is the structural dimension of anti black racism, the fact that the incent district -- they are targeting one