the car. full chase it, but never catch it. well with this decision, the dog caught the car, and now as a result, kansas, kentucky, montana, now ohio, the car is repeatedly running over the dog. so do the democrats really need to do anything special to ensure that what they've done, what republicans have done on the issue of abortion and writ large freedom continues to beat them up? >> yeah, i think more ballot uninsured events for example, and continuing to press it and make it an issue. you remember when -- was put in game marriage on the ballot to help evangelical turnout. they did a reverse of that strategy in 2024. you see it as a big change and where energy is around this issue. republicans, the evangelical base that they could turn out by talking about abortion, by getting them, motivating them, that base is not us energized