sort of militancy behinds that coming from the white evangelical base and that was when i first started to distance myself from it, even though i had intended to become a pastor in the tradition. i did try for another ten years to find my place with them. but i couldn't. and if someone like me for whom white and vandalism was made to succeed in it because i'm a white man. but if i can't fight back then it's much harder for other people. >> i love to get your reaction on something the south dakota's governor said at the family leadership summit in iowa on friday. that is produced by a christian political organization. she was asked about becoming a grandmother. she just became a grandmother. and someone asked her of becoming a grandmother made her want to be more or less involved in politics. here is what governor gnome said. . >> that was a tough decision