her do that. get that subpoena and show up and talk for as long as she did. >> i was filled with admiration and it actually confirmed everything that i have thought about the foreign service officers. they want to serve their country. they take an oath to defend the constitution. that's what she was doing. she wasn't saying i'm loyal to the department, much less the president. she said i'm loyal to the american people and defending the constitution. i think that was a brave thing she did. they're meant to be insulated. the president isn't meant to be firing ambassadors. the fact that she spoke truth to power about how this process works was a really admirable thing. . >> you look at how much of this scandal came apart. it was through the text mentals. yes, the outward-facing technology, the information campaigns or the efforts the state department makes. but also how it operates from within. you see the guys communicating on whatwhatsapp, using tech messages. >> well, look, as you know, one