deaths and i'm thinking somehow we'll wake up to this and maybe this is the time as we see the cold weather coming and we see the threat of omicron, there's no more reason to be on the fence. >> but in your position in the national institutes of health, it's not something that you've really had to deal with in the past. the idea that in record time got a life-saving vaccine, you and i would have thought there's been some hesitance, because ultimately does this now become a role for your organization to figure this stufr out. hey, we have two problems and we have to build a vehicles which is an amazing scientific accomplishment and we have to overcome the mono sense about people who don't want to take it. >> i think it would blufrn the effectiveness of the science that we will put in record time forward, but i don't know if it will take it all by ourselves