they would try by a fake audit by a company that never audited anything in their existence might turn up something, but what we're learning now from my colleague rachel maddow is that there were a number of states that submitted their own electoral slates. it didn't matter what the outcome of the outcome of the investigations were and it didn't matter what the lie was going to be. the lie was ready to persist regardless even in pennsylvania this is happening. >> yeah. they engaged in that stunt here in pennsylvania, as well. i think the real takeaway is two of the 16 people running for governor in pennsylvania participated in that charade and all 16 of them have subscribed to the big lie, and what that is making very, very clear here in the commonwealth is that they won't hesitate to steal the next election if given the chance. if given the opportunity to appoint a secretary of state who would corrupt the process. what they are angling for is the