0 alex jones interview this past week. these are not normal pro second amendment people. this is insanity. these are people who are essentially arming themselves and stockpiling arms. they have more than 50 arms in their house against some sort of tyrannical government invasion of their personal homes. this is basically the paranoiacs in american society being brought forward and being asked to speak for gun owners. it's up to gun owners themselves to distance themselves from this craziness. >> let's keep listening to this. there's one -- i want to get all these in here tonight. ted nugent to world net daily. here's what he said there. will come a time when the law-abiding gun owners of america will be the rosa parks and we'll sit down on the bus, case closed and this morning on cnn, the chair of the gun appreciation day suggested slavery wouldn't have occurred if guns had been available to everyone in america at the time. let's listen to this mularkey. >> i think martin luther king would agree with me, if he were alive today, that if african-americans had been given the right to keep and bear arms from day one of the country's founding, perhaps slavery might not have been a chapter in our history. >> what a dumb, dumb nut. joy, you've got to respond. this is not a nut but a dumb nut. slaves didn't come to america as citizens, came in shackles, in the bottom of a ship somewhere if they were lucky to be alive when they got here. the idea they would be armed by anyone. he's obviously patternizing here, trying to act like he cares about the fate of black people and some sort of number he was playing here. who would believe this new larky. >> why is it that every time the far right makes an argument that's insane, they jump on the civil rights movement and slavery and try to latch their argument on to the history of african-americans. >> as if they give a damn or be up in front. >> you don't remember ted nugent standing in front of everyone in the civil rights movement? >> i remember him getting out of going to vietnam and being afraid to carry a gun when his country asked him to carry gun in vietnam. he was a coward, and these guys always jump on slavery and the civil rights movement. if slaves hadn't been owned by other people, there wouldn't have been slavery either. >> this is -- what's happening now is something we've been talking about for five years, and that is the extreme right, let's call it what it is, has gone on about barack obama as a socialist, conspiracy theories about secret plans to take guns and dominate the country, and now because biden comes out and talks about high capacity magazines they say finally, we finally, they have something -- >> nailed him. >> to nail on, and they are -- >> i don't want to make fun of these people because 1% of the country, 5% or 10%. >> they are also dangerous because they are armed. >> that is a problem. remember where i get that phrase we're going to the nut country. that's what john kennedy said the day he died. yesterday rubbing limbaugh said the president cannot be stopped to getting what he wants. you don't think this is going to the mainstream of the right. here's rush. let's listen. >> you know, obama will try anything and has, and nobody stops him, by the way. he has trumped the constitution's first amendment and religious liberty. he has trumped the constitution on immigration. he essentially granted amnesty to a million kids without benefit of legislation. he'll do anything that nobody tries to stop him from doing. of course an executive legally doesn't trump the constitution, but if he issues an executive order to try to confiscate guns or something along those lines and nobody stops him, does he not get away with it? >> here's the point. rush has a brain. he's a smart guy. he's a marketer and knows what he's doing. in many ways he's a showman, but how can he honestly believe that a president can issue an executive order confiscating guns? >> to be extreme in reaction to this extremism, i can hear less smart people -- i can imagine them listening to this and thinking there is only one way to stop this guy. >> david corn, joy reid, thanks for joining us. have a nice week. coming up, reality check. gun control advocates say this is the moment to pass new legislation and the gun control crowd says there's no way they will accept an assault weapons ban and president obama made it clear today the united states is accelerating its withdrawal from afghanistan and plans to leave very few troops there after next year this. much is clear. gone is the goal of nation-building and u.s. congressman phil gingrey felt two so-called rape candidates in the republican party wasn't enough. he's just come out defending aiken's legitimate rape comments and once again republicans keep it up and the story that's the star of hollywood, it's right here in the nation's capital. this is "hardball," a place for politics. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ i am pink and i am a covergirl. ♪ i honestly loved smoking, and i honestly didn't think i would ever quit. 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