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they are calling on people to kill twitter because the social media is blocking their accounts. they don't know who has posted the threat but brookings said since last fall twitter has linked 45,000 accounts to isis propaganda. 800 confirms isis members have had accounts disabled and 18,000 related accounts. mean while, overseas the iraqi military is launching a massive attack on the city of tikrit the former home town of saddam hussein in control since the summer. and this devolving fight for tikrit. and the city is a sunni majority with shiite military. and fighting with irani air support. it is a mix with massive backlash even if it succeeds with backlash. jessica mcfate is research director at the institute for the study of war and recently war an op ed in the "wall street journal." and jessica, why is it important to tikrit and what are the dangers there? >> it is a sunni majority city and a capital in a sunni majority province in forthern iraq so in one sense it is a very important test of isis' defenses to see if the iraqi security forces and shia militias can overcome them but it is a very important test of whether or not iraq can prevent a sectarian fallout after such a demographic shift with the -- with a shia militia force participating in an offensive to take over a sunni majority capital. >> and many westerns have been confused by the isis approach of attacking so many different fronts. you've sen that is a deliberate strategy reading from your piece, isis's recent foray into libya and it is hostage-taking and executions of egyptians and jordans to pallarize domestic populations. and how does that work? >> one component is speaking specifically to the sunni populations and sunni governments in neighboring states to isis's strong holds in iraq and syria. and isis wants to try to drive a wedge between those fighting isis and those who are either passively or actively supporting them and in fact their principal message, and this is their strategy, is to try to make this very much for or against so there is quote, no gray area unquote. everyone is either for or against. it is a message to weaken a coalition against isis. >> and jessica, let's talk about this potential twit threat and how it fits into what isis' strategy is on a grander scale. first of all, they've been sadly very effective at using twitter to spread their propaganda and as a recruiting tool so it seems counter productive to threaten twitter. but how does this fit into what they are doing with in regards to what he call the honor yor-- the outer ring. >> well in the outer ring isis is trying to inspire fear and scare everybody into not doing anything against isis and i do think this particular threat against twitter and the co-founder of twitter is part of that strategy. it is simply meant to inspire fear possibly ip spire attacks. but i think that is primarily an issue for law enforcement. >> saturday night live has people talking today as people are upset. they did a spoof on the toyota add. the original add was a dad sending off his kid to the military and snl had a dad sending off his daughter into the arms of isis. take a look at this. >> hey, dad, thanks. >> you got it kiddo. looks like your ride's here. you be careful, okay. >> dad, it's just isis. >> so that was dakota johnson playing that role. when we acknowledge isis even in a satirical way like this what impact does that have on isis in terms of the way they view their role in this fight? >> well i'm actually of two minds about this one. on the one hand i do understand why people are upset about it. i have a poignant moment like this with my dad before i joined the united states army. but they are trying to counter a message of what isis is trying to do perhaps through laughter is something i think worth looking at. so i don't think the answer is just not to talk about them. and i think part of the answer may very well be diffusing at least the fear message, so long as we keep an eye on what they are actually physically capable of doing, to underestimate that is very dangerous. >> and why should any of the enemies be above satire or parody. and we went through the horrors in france and with the idea that we in a free society dictate things don't like to say, that is fine but going down the road of isis or al qaeda or the folks out there are beyond any kind of acknowledgment. >> joke. >> and i think we are mocking not just isis but the young women and men who left their homes to go join isis. and i think dakota johnson's character is the big joke of that whole moment. what do you think? >> well i would agree. i think it is very important to take a look at some of the modern syndromes that are occurring and recognize that it is actually a scary threat that isis is appealing for young people who are searching for what their roles in this world is going to be. to make fun of that it is important and highlight the issue is important and to recognize that community that isis is targeting may very well be the community watching snl. so let's look at how we look at what it means to be free. >> and as we allow or watch snl mock this girl joining isis we have actual young women, 15 and 16 leaving homes, leaving families who love them and joining isis and it is a little heartbreaking and a little confounding and -- i mean what are we to make of this? >> well, i think we should recognize that isis is not necessarily doing what they are doing to young people through their families but in fact trying to isolate them from their families. so the one thing i think the snl skit does not capture is the children are leaving their families in isolation and not with the support of their loving fathers. so that distinction is very important. >> jessica mcfate, military analyst and television critic thank you for your time today. >> absolutely. thank you. coming up krystal reports from d.c. where it is another crazy week. netanyahu in town and homeland security funding in jeopardy and speaker boehner in hot water. 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passing what many felt would be the mundane, the department of homeland security funding. speaker boehner this past sunday he acknowledged he doesn't have the easiest job in the world. >> do you like your job? >> most days. friday wasn't all that fun. but most days. >> why wasn't friday fun? >> oh, it was just messy. and i'm not into messy. >> so the question then is krystal, will it be the messy for the rest of the week the speaker's job and the conventional wisdom on capitol hill is republicans do not want to continue this department of homeland security fight because of how embarrassing it was on friday. that illicited editorials from many including the wall street saying it was hurting their opportunity with the new majority. so what happens now. the senate will move procedurally to do something the house wanted to do go to conference and reconcile the differences between both chambers, the department of homeland security bills an the democrats will stop that and then we have the possibility in the house of democrats using a very interesting parliamentary tactic called the privileged resolution which would force a clean department of homeland security security bill on the house floor whereas the expectation from leaders is you would see 188 democrats support that and maybe 30 or so republicans to get it over the finish line. and unless the house gop leadership wants to do something else. the reason why that privilege works for boehner and the gop leader sipp erership is saying look this isn't us but the democrats did it and 35 colleagues jumped in and we have to let the housework its will. a fascinating conundrum. and on monday i will be shocked if they go through the 11th hour mess again this upcoming friday. there is no appetite for it in many in the rank and file now. >> not exactly profiles encouraged over there. take care. we appreciate. >> thank you. be well. and tomorrow as ben netanyahu addresses congress but a number of democrats will be absent for reasons. before aipac he extended an olive branch. >> the last thing that i would want is for israel to become a bipartisan issue -- partizean issue and i regret that it is doing that. israel is a bipartisan issue and it should remain a bipartisan issue. >> and then he said this. >> ladies and gentlemen, the purpose of my address to congress tomorrow is to speak up about a potential deal with iran that could threaten the survival of israel. >> the white house responded this afternoon. here is josh earnest. >> the president has made a strategic decision about what he believes is clearly in the best interest of the united states and it happens to be in the best interest of israel. no one else has laid out a strategy for how to accomplish what the prime minister has laid out as his goal. >> joining us now is josh farrow host of three cents on shift and domesticic correspondent for the new york times. and picking up on the first comment that we heard netanyahu making, saying that israel has always been a bipartisan issue and it is true. it is one of the issues that democrats and republicans have been very much aligned on, almost completely across the board. does this speech to a joint session of congress and the way that it has been perceived as a partisan move does that fundamentally change that dynamic. >> i don't think it has helped israel position as a bipartisan issue. you will have a substantial number of democrats skipping and they have counted 86 who said they will go and many haven't given an indication yet but here what israel is looking for on iran, is they are looking for a revolt against the president's policy and they want new sanctions on iran something the president would veto and they need democratic votes and backing them over the objections of the same-party president and so i think this strategy which is creating a party rift over israel will not help them in the end of getting democrats to stand with them against the president. >> and josh we know d.c. is all about politics and partisanship and things play out and come and go and we move on with our lives. this one feels different and it feels like it will have a long-lasting impact on our politics and david roth cost said today it was until president obama was no longer in office until we can begin to make some end rhodes. >> i think everybody needs to know that in the next couple of years and the last six years this will stay dysfunction until president obama is out of power or bibi netanyahu is out of election. >> they will be having an election and netanyahu may not be in office any more and then president obama won't be president that much longer. so i think the fundamental political supports for israel on both sides of the aisle remain in the united states. i think the bigger long-term concern for israel is a broadening rift between jews in israel and the united states. when you look at polling in the united states, you are seeking support among younger jews than older jews and that is what threatens the relationship between u.s. and israel. the relationship between the president and netanyahu is not going to be an issue. >> and we are talking about america a big issue in israeli politics and the strategy doesn't work for netanyahu if the goal is to build a larger coalition in the u.s. congress that could override negotiations that john kerry is taking on behalf of the united states administration here, this doesn't seem to work for that. but bibi according to sources in israel has other domestic political goals. let's listen to what the former head of the israel cia said in the past few hours to a nbc news interview. let's hear that. >> cynically, netanyahu is doing it not in order to talk to the congress, because he knows that talking to the congress now will change nothing. he is doing it in order to speak to the people in israel in order to gain one or two more man dates. so netanyahu is ready to sacrifice the special relations between israel and the u.s. for gaining more votes before elections in israel. >> now that is a serious charge because in israel the tradition is not to use the american relationship, by far the most important economic military relationship the nation has for political goals. that is a big charge. and to be fair netanyahu administration has denied that and said this is about iran and foreign policy. but toure, when you look at this and the politics around it you can't help but think the building support on the right and the center right in israel there are credible people there that think this is too political and thus bad on two levels. >> that is right. there is a letter from 180 former security generals who said this address will do more harm than good. another ex chief saying we shouldn't be gnawing away at our relations with our allies and not in public and not by getting involved in american politics an this is not the kind of behavior of getting involved in american politics and how do you think this will play out? >> and this is not about whether it is a naked political move or whether it is a naked political move that backfired. if he is trying to shore up the policy toward iran and helping to alienate democrats, i think we've seen support falling away and it is clear that the president can have a veto sustained on that bill if he wants one. and that is a problem for him domestically. and i don't know if it is high-minded that we shouldn't interfere in u.s. politics and it is more that we shouldn't interfere in u.s. politics and lose. >> josh, barrow we love your politics and your hair today. it is spiky, i approve. >> thank you so much. and up next the story that reads like a russian crime novel. a outspoken critic murdered near the kremlin. my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back! aleve. two pills. all 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