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a universal concentration camp. the majority of the population, including women and children, were forced to work on the rubber plantations. those who failed to fulfill their quota were beaten and mutilated to keep the congolese people under control. the king set up the so called forest bleak which were punitive detachments that cast terror on the captured country and its inhabitants, fearing that their subordinates would simply waste bullets hunting for wild animals . the officers demanded that the soldiers gave an answer for every bullet used, and as proof presented a chop hand of an african, it was not uncommon when trying to justify the use of the ammunition. the colonist amputated the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide. in only 20 years, the policy of the belgians led to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocaust. that genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the grimmest pages in the history of mankind. with . oh, a wave from the right is washing over the movies. but this isn t the 1st time in recent years and how will this affect the rest of the cliff? i m sky. no, he isn t on this edition of a 360 you. we re going to try and understand why europe is a once again shifting to the right. and if this is a result of the use lack of leadership in the eyes of the people, ah, thank you for joining us. you know, at the end of september 2022, we saw george maloney elected as italy s new leader arriving any critical time for not only the country, but the european union. sweden, in their most recent election, saw the majority swing to the right, with the young voters actually doubling their support since the last election. finland and spain will be going to the polls in 2023 with early predictions. looking like a right wing coalition, taking the majority, belgium and poland, following the same pattern. and one of the most recent right wing elected leaders, hungarian president. victor orman followed up his 2018 victory with even larger reelection numbers. defeating a candidate backed by brussels. an obvious rejection of the current policies and agenda of those in power by the engage electorate of the you. it, but this isn t the 1st time as this wave came through in 2015 to 2020, but was stopped by those elections held during the pandemic era. now, however, the wave is back and possibly more fortified than the previous crisis in the energy . food, labor and immigration sectors are having a major effect on everyday life and cannot be ignored or spun by the mainstream media. people are engaged and angry at what those in power are doing, which only seem to be making the problems escalate. could a persistent and willingness by you leaders to recognize the problems of the people . ultimately lead to the elimination of most political parties in the you and could this spread to other continents. joining us now for more is anthony constant teeny, a ph d student at the university of vienna. an author of this recent politico article entitled, understanding europe s shift to the right. thanks for joining us, anthony. what effect if any effects will these new conservative leaders have governing their respective countries? so i think the biggest effect that it s going to have is that the is potentially finally going to have to start drawing a line as to what it can actually do for the longest time. the integration is, have had this ability to kind of slowly move things along with a court decision here or commission action there. i mean, there s never really been push back the right and europe has always been this kind of center, right. not really nationalistic, not really caring about the, you know, but now you going to have an actual growing and large block of countries that want to say, hey, what exactly can you do on? so that s going to be, i think the, the biggest effect, especially now italy being one of the largest economies in the us now no longer. they can t write it off as oh, it s a small country somewhere in the east. now it s something that they have to take seriously in your opinion, what countries will go more right wing moving into the future in europe? so i actually think spain is one of the ones that by the end of next year, is going to have a right when they have scheduled elections for i believe, the 2nd half of 2020 to 2020. and right now the pool is basically pointing to a century a far right coalition, which would be the p. p. and then box. i think you obviously the prizes france, i think that s going to have to wait for the next presidential watching to it s a way down the road. but i think the important thing is less of an a not than an expanded is an important cuz you could also see a place like finland, which is a knife edge. but they could also result in a set of right for a coalition in electrons next year. but the actual chancellor to hold these games because what happens is they always have these expanse little ways happens occasionally. but then they kind of fumbled the ball immediately. and the kind of exciting thing is over the last 78 years of, of concurrent populous wave is that they re actually kind of holding, you know, the, the brothers in italy of italy have continually expanded the rope. the 5 stars which are no longer, you know, they used to kind of have some aspects of rolling population, but they re still up relatively popular party has stayed relatively strong. the freedom party in austria has stayed relatively strong. it s in fact right now it s above the mainstream people study. so i think the real focus for the way should be hardening the gains, not necessarily expanding to places where it might be harder and where they might have losses. we tend to momentum how specifically, while these leaders resist the technocrats who rhina europe. so yes, right now, the only people who have really been doing that are pulling in hungary and since the one you trained that block has kind of split up into the ex, anything as now you have not just those 2 who are still aligned on, on the anti you issues, but now you have a maloney, you have a french parliament which is now not controlled by populace by any means, but the populace often the populace right have not only denied on a majority, but they have a pretty large part of the parliament on their own um i think the main thing you re going to see is again then pushing to say, you know, ok, why, why are you saying that you can just hold money back because of corruption. that s the main thing. they always do against hungry, right? they say crutches, but no one ever goes after bulgaria or so vakio mater, both of which were countries that had journalists killed and those killings were vaguely kind of connected to governments. ok. so you re going to have a lot of, okay, what exactly what, what do you do here? you know, like on right now, there s a, a, a right now there s a circle or there s a court case going from the commission to the european, the equivalent of a supreme court about whether or not hungary can ban algebra teachings in schools. now there is nothing the treated master it, there s nothing in the treaty of lisbon, which says that algebra t values are european union values. but yet you had a french minister recently saying that access to abortion and algebra, the rights are european union values, which is not in any any law or any treaty. and so what you going to finally have is, is countries asking in force like, look, what is this exactly. i m secondly, you finally going to have an answer to the micro question, which has been going for years. which in every single right wing victory, you see migrants being, if not the number one clear and above issue one of the main issues. and you re finally, i think going to have to see the commission act on this because they have not. and they kicked the can down the road and hit the can down the road. and now they kind of run into this, this rockwall of right wing victories. now you mentioned migrant. how will leaders like maloney deal with what they perceive as a migrant crisis? short, so maloney s biggest push, one of the biggest pushes in the campaign was offshoring migrants as they want to commit. and for a long time, the european union commission hazardous at this, not only because it looks bad, but because it s probably going to work. i mean it to austria, did you know their, their stop the boat s campaign and it worked. i m do you definitely going to see that? and until she gets that done, which will probably take a while because working out the logistics, this is genuinely difficult. you probably in the see some sort of deal with libya in terms of like what, how much, how much you need to pay you to, to beef up your, your, your patrol, you cause light. so you definitely going to start to see creative ways of trying to keep migrant out of the u haul. so the issue with, with greece and turkey right now is, is problematic. his stroke is holding back so many migrants, which is why you re probably going to see, you know, italy hungry in countries like that. push to somehow as office because they don t want all of those migraines act. greek that it took is kind of cooking a bio to be able to come out on to you. definitely going to see i would be surprised. you didn t see a legal are showing. you ll probably see the commission try to challenge that somehow, which i think would be damaging to themselves. but most likely the answer is going to be something like the, the u. k. is doing now keeping them somewhere else, or maybe rwanda. maybe just, you know, on african coastline, maybe in turkey, but somewhere outside of the, so they don t get those rights that they would gain if they separate into the how do countries actually deal with the, assess the logical tensions of migrants who have already settled in these countries so that s the biggest difference i think between this 2nd populous wave. and the 1st populace waiver really went from like 201-5220. 19. this new one is more of a reaction to ok. now these americans are here. what do we do before it was trying to stop them and now it s ok. they re here. and that was really the main to us at the sweden democrats who just had a really great electron is all about ago. was that no doughty here does not. huge waste your coming in, but now you have no immediate cause a gang violence skyrocketing in sweden and the question is what we do about that and i think a lot of them are maloney included, are going to look to denmark on which was mostly cheap by us central left government and it s the only center government that survived unscathed on what they re probably going to do is, is what they did, which was 1st off you ban migrant neighborhoods to be you can have any neighborhood be more than 30 percent migrate. so you can have these segregated areas that are literally just, you know, arab or literally just whatever migrate could that would be. and secondly, you have it so, so what, how is punitive was, which is you can basically take valuables away from my vantage. what they marked it and they didn t do it so they could, you know, take so much wedding way. they did it. so if you re clearly smuggling in a ton of stuff, that s not necessarily yours or not, something you need to have that they can take that away. in the 3rd, in terms of people who are already here, who people have been here for awhile is they mandate that their children take, you know, and obviously in denmark it s, it s their own language and things like that. but in italy, mandate that you take italian language classes mandate that you take a time culture classes. and you ll probably see the same in sweden, which usually gets a somewhat of a push back. but it s kind of hard to push back against it and, you know, do well because why wouldn t you want integrate them? so that s probably going to be the biggest push on because that s what kept a lot of government. again, the governments i did that it kept them alive and, and kept people happy. thank you. anthony constantine, we re going to take a short break and we ll be right back with our guest on the free. ah ah ah ah ah ah needs to come to russian state total narrative. i ve stayed as i m phoning the most 19 d vest. mm hm. then i can also send up a group in the 55 when. okay, so mine is too far from speaking with. we will ban in the european union, the kremlin. yup. machines, the state on to russia for date, and c, r t spoke neck, given our video agency, roughly all band on youtube. interfering with if you ve only followed the pronouncement in the so called analysis from western governments and they re ply immediate than you know, very little about the conflict in ukraine. the fact is, ukraine is losing on this addition of cross stocks, we discussed how this conflict is likely to end with ah, ah, welcome back. i guess is anthony constantino s, ph. d student at the university of vienna, an author of this recent political article entitled understanding europe s shift to the right. thanks for joining us. a big dividing issue is this war and ukraine will this issue actually push more leaders and parliaments to resist rule from brussels, especially as populations are taking to the streets to protest energy prices. so one of the things that brussels and a has kind of been, you can tell they ve been surprised by is the fact that people haven t gotten angrier now. i think they re kind of carrying the chickens before the house cuz it s only the middle of october. but i don t believe that they re going to push back too strongly against the st. just because i think that a lot of i mean, including maloney who s been pretty supportive of the sanctions. i think that they view the benefits for their countries outweighing the negatives. ok. i do think though that you re going to see a rethink of european union energy plans because this obviously can t continue. and i think you might maybe see the greens crack a bit throughout these countries in terms of their opposition and nuclear power. but beyond that, i don t think that there s going to be too much of a pushback. you see now hungry saying look, i think we need to slow down. we ve had 67. thank in packages. maybe me so down now, but i don t think you re going to see an active. we need to completely over all these actors. i think you would feasibly, if ukraine started to really lose and any of the gains that they had got really pushed back by this mobilization. but if you don t, if that doesn t really happen, i don t think that europe is gonna buckle too much on that. do you think inflation will push the government s more to the right and how will that affect politics in europe moving forward? i think it may. yeah, i think you have some government. i mean for example, you have the government germany right now, which is just doing a hauling we in the polls. i think that the ruling social democratic 3rd place behind the cd you and behind the greens. and i think that those 2 smaller coalition co, or the democrats and the greens are kind of watching that. and they re seeing, you know, do we want to be associated long term with the government that s failing to address inflation failing to address energy issues. ok. but i think that maloney and, and between democrats and maybe spain coming up seem to do lucky in that they came in in the middle of the crisis. and usually when you get elected in the middle of a crisis, as long as you look like you re trying to do something, you usually don t get punished for that crisis you. we had this, for example, in the united states. i brock obama was elected in the middle of an economic crisis . and even though he didn t do a fantastic job, he really looked like he was trying to do something. and so we got re elected. we saw when jimmy co got elected in the middle of a crisis. he didn t really look like he was doing something. and so he was in 1980 i. and so i think as long as maloney really seems like she s trying to do things and doesn t seem like she s just kind of kicking back and we re only focusing on cultural issues. i think she ll probably be just fine. i don t really see this quitting before i do see it hurting. there was the censure part is i think that the center left and the center parties are both in serious trouble or by the end of next year, especially denmark. now, just recently, now it s an election, you could feasibly have only to send to left governments in the, which is incredible. when you look at, say, 10 years ago, i mean, the idea that the social democrats would only control 2 countries. it s insane. and it s because there s kind of like a hollowing out of the center, right in the center left. who is a lot of people just knew their ideas as stale as, as not applying to what we need today are. so i do think that inflation could kind of further that hollowing out of the center of in the, in europe. so i have to ask, what is the long term answer? do you believe to europe, energy crisis. so i think you re a pass somewhat quietly, but more or less kind of a seat. it to the fact that when, when donald trump 2018 was critiquing germany for over alliance with russia and they, they laughed at him at the you and that he was more or less. right. and, and this was, that was probably one of the biggest geopolitical areas and in modern history. but at the same time, it would also be an error for you to then just flip and to completely reliably united states right now. they can t, they don t have enough gas terminals. and also then they just get owned by the united states, like they were owned by russia. so i think the future is probably diversification that they re gonna buy. obviously they re still gonna buy oil from russia. it s right there. and it s cheap, they re going to buy some more gas from off in the united states. i think you re definitely going to see more stuff from the u. a more so from the middle east and they had previously on. but then you also going to have to versus cation, the terms of wind green. and but more importantly, i think, probably as, as a centuries it gets worse. you going to see a return in nuclear power? i think that this kind of very odd um, move away from it in the wake of a fukushima in japan is going to be reversed because it s just, you know, what, i think they re gonna look at france, which step, you know, get 75 percent of its power from, from nuclear energy. and i think they re going to say, you know, i kind of want that for me. so you can have the rest of occasion. you re going to have were gasping bought from us more from the middle east. but then also, i think you re finally going to see that nuclear taboo kind of broken. now we are seeing a large protest in places like amsterdam, the czech republic, germany, austria. do you think that at some level this reflect the e u. a nation state, governments, ignoring the world, the people and could we even see violence? could there be violence even against migrants? so i think that when looking at protesting and you know, whether or not they re being a new and i think you have to kind of have a 2 part equations. you have to have the protests and then electron results. richard nixon talked about his great style. majority and he tried to argue, look, all of these vietnam were protesters, they don t represent the majority. and he was proven right when a year later he $149.00 out of 50 states. so i think sometimes for example, in italy, you really didn t have large scale protests. i mean, there were some there here there, but there wasn t a well, you know, there s a part to of much on your own that kind of thing. but yet they elected a foreign government, whereas a, you know, where i am currently in vienna. there were a lot of anti vaccine protests here. i m especially anti locked down protests and you know, i hated the lock downs. i was happy to see them, but it did not represent the needs population at all because they were overwhelming the support about these locked downs. and when there was a chance to vote finance, i ve seen party recently in their presidential actually got like one percent of the vote and right now in the parliamentary poster for so i think that you can t look to just add um protests, but you have to look at electron result, now in some of these places, like in the netherlands, the big farm, protests and stuff. you have had a spike in right wing support on belgium, which is tangentially related in that same farm issue. the top 2 parties in, in the polls right now are to right wing parties, but the problem which with protests and the problem with gaining support is a, can you get to a majority? um and like right now, for example, the top 2 belgian parties are indeed right wing and they both doing well, but they re not gonna charge. and so the question is, you know, do a majority of people or at least a large and a plurality, are they angry? and right now i see it or not. i know most people in austria, they either didn t care about the vaccine or they weren t angry enough to, to protest against it on now with energy that was kind of different, right? you know, because like you can, you can kind of ignore vaccines or whatever, if you re not going to get it does, we ll get it by everybody needs to eat the home, you know, everybody needs right now. everybody. but you know, people drive in the cars, things like that. so i do think that we are probably going to see in the countries that are less, automatically inclined west kind of wilsonian, less automatically inclined to support ukraine. you definitely going to have people getting like, okay, like when this is going to end again, especially russia starts to do better. i do. i think it s too early to tell. i don t necessarily think we ll have like massively violent protests about energy on, but i do think that it s going to grow. i a, you ll probably see some if there s a government currently teetering like the check government, it s is kind of wobbly. you could see electrons there, something like that. as for my grants, i m not what the problem is. again, there s no if there were waves coming in, um with migraines. if there were waves coming in, still you would probably see protest. i think you ll get protests if violence continues. if the violence em, i think sweden had something like $5354.00 mass shootings or something which is unheard of for country like sweden. ah, if that violence expands to the rest of europe, you could have that like, for example, there was a murder in austria couple months ago. and the person who, who committed it was found to be migrant who was hiding in a migrant community in france. back on the stuff gets people s blood boil on. if that happens more and more, i think you will definitely see more anger and, and potentially more larger. in reality, protests you could have consistent move. you feel like to the right by more and more government eventually lead to the end of the you. so i think that this was a fair question in 2015 and, and a lot of people will generally wondering, especially when blacks are kind of as a real shock on. but i think the problems that you guys had with that are coupled with the fact that even maloney on even robin, you know, that they haven t really been, we need to leave the right now. you know, you had the pan kind of back away. and the reason they are back to way it wasn t really because they were cowed by brussel status because they realized it s just not a popular position. and a lot of people, you know, for better for worse, really like the, you know, you had a majority of europeans, you had a plurality vote for the far right. and they very solidly supported them. but you also had a majority approve of my, your drug use government. he was a european central banker before he was picked to be a technocratic prime minister. i. i don t think you re going to have a collapse. i think what could happen is if this were going to have elections in the european parliament in 2024, the question is going to be, how does the right wing block, do they do very well? what right now, they re on a path to that. and then they can finally force a show down on, you know, what are some out earlier in terms of look, what exactly can you do. and the integration is going to have to decide, do we push back or do we kind of give in and make this clear? if they try to push back, you probably could see not a wholesale class, but the beginning of a fracturing because until now the innovations, again, they just been kind of able to slowly expand in this. that only gets stopped. you know, you re going to have a immovable object to the right meeting, unstoppable force which is integration is and then you could probably see some sort of crap, but i don t think the crack is going to come from right. when was, when you to leave. i think it s going to be integration is pushing too hard and kind of ignoring the reality of people not liking these unelected bureaucrats and brussels having a say over the minutia the lies. oh, thank you. and that was ph. the candidate at the university of vienna. anthony constantine, politics in the united states is divided into 2 major parties. however, this is not consistent with the rest of the world. what does it seem to follow the same pattern in elections is a turning away from those currently in power. when the people have a choice, now globally, there is a major divide between those and power and those affected by their power. the action by those and power results in the reaction either positive or negative by the people. this isn t about political parties or life versus right in my view. this is about those in the ruling class working for their own benefit rather than for the benefit of the people who put them. there are so often we wonder why areas have been neglected for decades. continue to put in power. those from the same ideology, it s absolute stupidity to keep repeating the same action which only results and continued degeneration and pain. accountability to the people is the key, and will the new, right? when government being installed, you actually make their campaign promises come true. and if they do, will this be the new wave of popular government, which will sweep the globe sky now? huge, and this is been your $360.00 view of the news affecting you. thanks for watching. ah, i know when i was shot the wrong when i was just don t the room. yes. to fill out. the thing becomes the aptitude an engagement equal betrayal. when too many find themselves worlds apart, we choose to look for common ground. oh, she knew she was coming from last year, rush and gush chip and she bows affordable and she grew up in the stable which has been both not the gauge. did you say well that there is no longer there a it s a so format by campus, anita shouldn t need to pick the water bottle of their muslim, most reports but well, both new dealing new one year both use commercial bonded and you could probably look me even i m not sure who you re cooling, who your, why do you decide on sanctions, your sanction country or section of course. so because you want to change the behavior of the government person that hasn t happened. sanctions hasn t function with african countries want to develop security relations with other nations. this leads to certain reactions that you apply the same philosophy and mentality anywhere in the world. russia as foreign minister say that western countries are applying a neo colonialist approach to africa by patronizing nations instead of cooperating with overhead china and bath washington for portraying gay because that barrier to solving africa with beijing coating the u. s. the main reason at the continence economic instability.