of the students has changed, and it's justi l--i really love it. ucla is an extraordinarily diverse campus. i mean, we're just every ethnic group, every religion, every race. and i--over the 18 years, 19 years, i have seen the students become more and more at ease with each other. it's--it truly is wondrous to watch their interaction. there was always i--a lot of mac .. in a society in the second great awakening and i don't think -- it left us interlocking groups of churches in america that persist to this day. c-span: you told us you wouldn't want to go back and live in that period,...