campaigns. we also have coming up a highlight from my new interview with bernie sanders supporter michael moore that will be airing for the first time. we just spoke after a packed rally where he campaigned for the senator. now here is what we know about this race right now tonight. first, there are signs that the top three coming from iowa are the top three right here. take a look. bernie sanders leading the pack in new polling followed by buttigieg, biden and klobuchar forming something of a second tier. it has a 5% margin of error, a sign this could still be anybody s game. what else do we know? these final polls still show 10% remain undecided. so there could be all kinds of swings that upend these fluid current positions. and third, there is a shift in the tenor of the campaign itself. democrats have spent months in a pretty gentle mode, complimenting each other, focusing more for peyer power against trump. this race is narrowing, and that has candidates taking each other on directly. we have a newcomer in the white house, and look where it got us. the coalition of billionaires is not exactly what s going to carry us over the top. does it really matter where you get your money from? of course it matters. bernie is pretty rich, and i would happily accept a contribution from him. oh, come on, man. do you think this guy is not barack obama. he s right. i m not. and neither is he. as they say in the business, snap. i m joined now by former campaign manager for cory booker who has worked several primary si cycles. aaron haynes, reporting on politics and women out here in new hampshire. and political columnist for the washington post. great to see each of you. great to be here. snap, crackle, pop and you re done. adisu, you have worked the cycle as mentioned. when you see what is shaping up here, who do you think is closing strong? coming out of iowa, sanders and buttigieg both have seen a little bit of a bump here. sanders was very strong here four years ago and i think is going to be strong again tomorrow night. you ve seen klobuchar with the debate performance on saturday night now jump into that muddled second tier at 7%. i think it really is anybody s game. a lot of people are undecided. a lot of people are going to drive towards the voting booth tomorrow undecided, walk into the voting booth undecided. it s about as fluid a race as you can imagine. i would agree. just like iowa, i ve talked to so many voters who are still undecided headed into tomorrow this 11th hour. so for supporters and volunteers, this is as much about turnout and persuasion as it is turnout at this late stage, which is surprising. to adisu s point about klobuchar, both senator klobuchar and senator warren are both really pushing a message that their campaigns are built for the long haul. they re not necessarily trying to capitalize on momentum coming out of iowa in the way senator sanders or former mayor buttigieg are been cog. what they are doing is saying we are here for the long haul. our campaigns are about durability. if we can just hang on not just through iowa and new hampshire, but through super tuesday and beyond, that then maybe they have a kiss to make to voters across the rest of the country. one of the dynamics that s really interesting to watch too is bernie sanders supporters are there for him. they are solid. but as we see these other dynamics going on, amy klobuchar is having a bit of a surge. where is that coming from? is it coming from pete buttigieg? is it coming from biden? we see these other candidates kind of duking it out for the same pool of voters. and once again, as always, in new hampshire, what about that 40 or so of the electorate that is not registered with any political party that can come over and vote in the democratic primary. you mention klobuchar benefitting from this debate. we were out talking to a lot of folks this weekend. we definitely heard about her among others. let s look at a couple of moments from that highly debated friday night. i will use margin orders to reduce the cost of commonly used prescription drugs. we ve got to bring china and russia and brazil and pakistan and india and every major country on earth into the fight against climate change. the government allowed this opioid epidemic to spread. mental health care, addiction, long-term care, those are the thanks that would make it better. the idea, middle class taxes aren t going to go up is just crazy. who do you think stood out there, and how does that matter in this state where people famously pay such close attention. i just think the unquestioned top performer friday night was amy klobuchar, mostly because she seemed to be the most aggressive. i was really surprised. there were moments at which elizabeth warren, who is such an accomplished debater seemed to almost disappear on that stage. and that was definitely something that people noticed, especially on social media. i saw people saying that. it was interesting because the night of that debate was actually the three-year anniversary of when senator warren had a showdown with senator mcconnell. and the next day, nevertheless she persisted meme was born. for senator klobuchar, she definitely benefitted from having fewer people on the stage that night, and i think that she certainly would say that that helped her kind of get more of her message out and take more of those countries. but she is not a candidate, and she said this, that goes for those kind of viral moments on the debate stage. it s that she really had more of an opportunity to make her case with less people up there. you mentioned how klobuchar and warren are doing. there is new polling we want to mention about women voters in new hampshire. this is ahead of tomorrow s big decision, of course. it shows sanders pulling ahead among women voters here. among democrats sanders leading at 29% followed by warren at 17. buttigieg at 14. biden at 9. errin? that is certainly an interesting point. there are a lot of voters here in new hampshire. sanders is next door in vermont and that may have something to do with it. senator warren also next door in massachusetts. but what has especially been interesting on the senator warren point, she like i said is something who has been making the case, having these long selfie lines, connecting one-on-one with voters. new hampshire is a state that has had two women they sent to the senate. women are open to a woman candidacy. and a lot of the surrogates doorknocking thought they were going have to make more of a case on electability. that is not the case. a lot of the voters saying they ve been very open to a woman candidacy. some of them wanted hillary clinton to be president four years ago. they are open even if that person is a woman. and karen, the other thing hanging over this that is different than any other cycle is michael bloomberg waiting to get into these later states. we ve heard voters bring up his name as well. he is running we have seen people wait to get in. rudy giuliani very famously in 2008 sort of waiting for the race to come to florida. it s never worked before. it s never worked before because we ve never seen anybody who has the resources that mike bloomberg has to pour into this race. his entire rationale is premised on a joe biden stumble. so the question is what kind of shape is joe biden going to be in after these first four contests when we hit super tuesday where i think it s something like states representing a third of the population are going to be voting. and that bloomberg is already up on the air. he is claiming they re going spend money through december regardless. disu, was it not jay-z who said if money talks, the whole world is about to hear me out? amen, amen. there is a factor that people focus so much on his strategy and his timing, but this is still really about the funding, it is not? 100%. i think when we were in the race, when senator booker was in the race we had a similar theory about joe biden but we didn t have $300 million to spend across 14 super tuesday states. with it boosting support, we saw polling that has bloomberg statistically tied or close to second place nationally or third place nationally. and that has everything to do with resources. and the debates frame who is seen as a viable choice. yes. do you think it s fair the way the dnc has been changing these rules in a manner that would now appear to benefit mike bloomberg? trying to get me in trouble. no, you re right. i think the rules have not necessarily been beneficial to the process at large when somebody can buy their way on to a stage and the rules change against somebody on the stage. what s the point of the democratic party saying here are the rules and people like harris and booker are struggling against one set of rules. they are out of the race. the candidate field is less diverse, and now there is some new rules that are going to benefit people who aren t fundraising. it s a very good point. these are the rules as they are. they are what they are. mike bloomberg is it s a good thing he is likely going to have to be on a stage besides how many other candidates are left for the iowa caucuses for the south carolina primary and those debates because you should if you are a democratic candidate for president, you should stand on stage and make your case while you re the best candidate. i m going to go to kampblt. i just think the dnc is going to have to rethink the qualification rules they put forward. although it s interesting. senator harris when she got out of the race, she was still qualifying for the debates. her problem was just traction in the poll numbers. and she pulled out right before the california filing deadline. it would have been pretty devastating to not do well in her home state. i just i just think that when you have sitting governors and sitting senators who cannot qualify for a debate stage, they re just going to have to come up with some other system. right. it hasn t been transparent, and it comes at a time when there is a lot of pressure on the democratic party for how it handled iowa and a lot of other things. i take it you re being diplomatic because you want to be nice to anyone who becomes the nominee. look, the dnc has to be strong to win the presidential election in november, and i want the dnc to be strong. but i do think polling, donors, not actually a measure. and we re seeing right now with klobuchar surging towards the end and bloomberg surge, what was the value of all of that in 2019? was that measuring anything? we knew this race was going to be fluid in february and march. we re seeing it now in reality. and that s why it was misguided. and errin stays with me. addisu and karen, thanks for joining the beat tonight. thank you so much. with is rea lot more. we re going to dig into the changing politics of this so-called electability problem as voters see who is actually wing. we also have brand-new numbers on how many voters might still change their minds. and as i was mentioning, i was talking to michael moore and who might energize the democratic base. blue collar and young people are not going to wake up and bloomberg, i can t wait to get to the polls to vote for bloomberg. that s not going to happen. he will not win. you ll get the full context of that and a lot more tonight. plus i m going get up and talk to some of the voters behind me at the penn stock. i m ari melber. you re watching the beat live from new hampshire. om new hampse whatever happens out there today, remember, you have the hilton app. will the hilton app help us pick the starters? 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i mean, that is they re not going win as president of the united states when 70% of the eligible voters neck year, women, people of color or young people. and people of color and young people are not going to wake up on election day and go bloomberg, i can t wait to get to the polls to vote for bloomberg. that s not going to happen. he will not win. i am back with erin haines. you heard the diverse young coalition. do you think michael moore is correct that mike bloomberg would struggle to rally that coalition, or is it more complicated? you know, i think it is complicated because, you know, i am hearing from black voters that they may be open to a mike bloomberg candidacy. and i think that probably is folks wondering like most democrats who the best person is to beat donald trump in november and thinking well, maybe it is somebody with the resources of a mike bloomberg. is that a compromise position, meaning it s not that bloomberg would be the first dream candidate on a particular issue, but is just seen as having the ability to go up against trump? to the extent that democrats are single voter issues. if their single issue is defeating donald trump, then yes, i think they are maybe willing to compromise. i think it s why you saw bloomberg apologizing so early on about stop and frisk because he knows if he is going to get the nomination, the path of that nomination goes through black voters and obviously the south. words of andre 3,000, the south has something to say. outout to outkast. always. he is going to have to make his case to black voters at some point. i think the electability issue is written off. what it really is a very significant chunk of the democratic party says there is nothing more important in this particular election than beating donald trump. and i think you re seeing that. there you go. you re seeing that. you re seeing in what s happening here in new hampshire, and your seeing that in bloomberg s numbers. so a new quinnipiac poll that shows bloomberg has up to something like 22% among african americans. he has taken a big chunk away from joe biden. it doesn t mean that african americans agree with mike bloomberg on everything. they re looking at him and saying gee, this guy may be able to take trump on. in this state, there is a whole bunch of moderate, moderate liberal voters who are looking for an alternative to bernie. bernie has a solid 25, 30%. these voters are very much beating trump is the most important thing voters. a lot of them were joe biden people. joe biden has been losing them after iowa. they rallied to pete buttigieg, and that race got close. now those three candidates, amy klobuchar being the third, are cutting up that vote. and i think this primary closes with a real surge toward klobuchar. i was at an event this afternoon in exeter at that town hall, and they had to open up a whole other room. she had a lot of fun playing with the room upstairs where she would get them to stamp their feet on the floor in the overflow room. something s happening here and that s all about electability. having beating trump is the most important thing is not crazy given the nature of donald trump. well, we ve seen so much that s generational. this weekend i mentioned i was with sanders and buttigieg. which are opposite ends of the age of candidates. but then their followings are inverse. so you go to the bernie event, and there is real enthusiasm like i haven t seen for a lot of other candidates when you see the level of the bernie t-shirts and a lot are younger people. they don t care that he is an older person. and you flip that with buttigieg. i notice a lot of voters at least older than him, let s say. the room was older than the candidate and happily so. and so there is this whole flipping. i want to play for you the one other part from michael moore. this is airing now for the first time on the beat because we just taped the interview where he talks about the age stuff. take a look. we have a responsibility to vote for the kids. this one is for our kids who are now in their 20s and 30s. and we are leaving them with a world where they are in debt up to their ears with college debt, with medical debts, and the planet that is choking. and we re probably going to escape the worst of it, but our kids and our grandkids, they are not. they want bernie. then we should vote for bernie. now that s a pitch from a surrogate, but more broadly, e.j., if i can address you as a boomer, with love. there is no love for boomers, you know that. michael moore, part of what he said that drew some of the strongest reactions in that room in front of new hampshire voters was he said it very plainly. he said bernie sanders is plenty healthy. he ll be around for a few years, but he is not going to be around in 25 years. he is not doing this for himself. he wants to save the education system and rewire the economy and change the way we do student debt for other people. and it was a really interesting way to flip this age thing that s been used against him, flip it around. what do you think of that kind of argument? well, i think that the under 30 generation is particularly progressive because they ve been hammered by the economy in ways that my generation, for example, wasn t, that i grew up, i came of age in a pretty good economy. a lot of inflation in the 70s, but strong economy. these folks either students or nonstudents who talk a lot about college grads, but let s look also at folks who aren t college grads who entered this economy where blue collar work, well paid, has started to disappear. among the students you have mountains of debt. i think bernie sanders appeal is very, very clear to them when you look at two things. one is free college which speaks directly to something they care about, and the second is single payer health care. now we can have a whole argument about whether that s the right way to go. but a lot of the people in the younger generation don t have health insurance if they re not on their parents plans, thank you, obamacare. we have 30 seconds left. can you resolve the health care debate in 30? absolutely not. it s not fair. but i will say about the electability question is to the extent that bernie and mayor pete have had success in iowa and new hampshire, that is really going to be tested if they are not able to take that message to black and brown voters in nevada, in south carolina, in the super tuesday states. because if that doesn t happen, i don t know what electability is really going to mean for them, or frankly, any candidate who is not able to resonate with minority voters on basis of party. that is a question. i don t have the answer that is a question facing several of the big names we re hearing about. buttigieg who is polling in 1% there. bernie sanders, who had his differences and challenges last cycle and says he s broadening the base, trying to. and mike bloomberg, who as we reported we had his campaign manager on the other night had a lot of trouble with black and brown voters in new york because he ran a stop and frisk program that stopped five million stops of people who the majority of the time had nothing on them and it was very controversial. it s not clear what the path is from there. i have to fit on a break. i really love having both of you on here on primary easy payment. thank you. up ahead, we re going mix it up. more with the new hampshire voters you see right here. live from manchester, when we come back. for online u.s. equity trades and etfs, plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. with value like this, there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. fidelity. there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. wherever we want to go, we just have to start. autosave your way there with chase. chase. make more of what s yours. ask. welcome back. here we are live in new hampshire on primary eve. we are surrounded by a lot of the new hampshire residents. i m going to have you pull back and ask everyone by a he is of hands how many of you here are new hampshire voters? great. and how many are still undecided or still might change your mind? let s start right here. who are you leaning towards? buttigieg. what can make you change your mind or who else are you thinking of? yeah, just having the opportunity to hear the candidates speak and just looking to see if anyone changes my opinion. but right now that s where i m leaning towards. and what do you learn about candidates? from going to events or debate? we went to the convention. democratic party. the democratic party event on saturday night, listening to all the candidates speak, which is really good, and just seeing what they have to say. that s striking. we re talking to people who literally saw every top candidate in person. who the are you leaning to? i have a clue. amy. amy. and why? she speaks to me. i ve seen her three times since friday night s debate, and she really speaks to me. and that s what i m looking for in a president. she s going get the job done. she has worked with moderate republicans, like she said. i m a huge cause for mental health. i ve been working in the mental health field 16 years. my mom will be passed four years from now and i took care of her. my dad is failing in health and i m taking care of him now. senior health care, long-term care, in the home care so i don t have to put him in a nursing home is huge to me. amy speaks to me for that. and you feel like she has plans that will work? absolutely. absolutely. and i want to give her a shot to get it done. i appreciate you sharing a little bit of your story with us. i want to good over here. i saw some hands up over here. who is still undecided or could change here? i m decided. almost to who? well, have i two candidates i really, really admire. one is michael bennet, and he is amazing. oh, wow. and the other is pete buttigieg. they re both two of the most compassionate, humane individuals that i have heard speak, and they both care deeply about education and our futures with our children and our environment. and they would take care of the of both of those. both people would take care of those. and you re nodding yes? i m for joe. joe biden? joe biden. here we go. we found a biden voter. no, i m only kidding. let me say like this. you hear all this trash. you heard the trash talk, yes? oh, terrible. so what s your response? you have a chance to tell everyone. joe is great. i voted for him in the past two elections. and he has the heart to bring the nation back together again. he was down a little bit. you think he can still come back? he better. there you have it. i m going do one more over here and then we have two guests to talk us through all of this. come on, here we go. i saw you over here. you re still undecideded? no. who are you leaning towards? bernie. here we go. we were just talking to michael moore about it. what do you like about bernie sanders? i love his platform. i love the way he speaks to the people. i saw him today, and actually i went to the dinner the other day and saw all the candidates, kept an open mind. but definitely decided in the last 24 hours, i am still a bernie girl. i like that he is of the people, by the people. and he s not taking money from billionaires. that s important because i think where you get your money matters so that you can t be bought. and he has been saying the same things for years and years and years. i just really like him. you said of the people, by the people. that s a good line. you should trademark that. thank you. i m going to do that tonight. everyone give a hand to all the different great new hampshire voters we heard from. and we re going to go right over here and hear from two of our guests. thanks for being here. i ve got john de la volpe and christopher from a college right here in new hampshire. what we just heard, how typical is this? i think it s very typical in terms of the number of people represented in this room who aren t locked down in terms of who they re going to be voting for tomorrow. there are tens of thousands of people i think throughout this state who share these concerns right now. they re leaning one way, leaning the other way. there is still time for each of the campaigns to reach out to them. that s right. in primary elections like this, you have a large field of candidates who are generally on the same page on both of the issues. there are details of how do you achieve an end or details of policy. but basically, democrats and the democratic party for president are pretty similar to each other. so voters make decisions on the basis of personal characteristics they re emphasizing. last-minute events a good delike amy klobuchar, a late gaffe like we ve seen in other elections. they ll be making up their minds after they leave the house tomorrow. i should mention because we try to be transparent as possible, we re not presenting this as a random survey. these are great friends of ours who came to watch an msnbc program. but we heard many of them have also been watching the voters going out in these voter events and seeing all the candidates. i want to play from some other voters we have sampled in our interviews who may not come out to an event like this, but who are also representative of what s out there. take a look at folks talking about this whole debate over electability. i feel that if we can get the party behind someone more towards the middle, we have a chance. do you think there is a lane where as someone as progressive bernie sanders could defeat president trump? no, no, no. he s got a strong base, but he cannot beat trump. you say that electability is your top issue have. you seen a democrat you re convinced can beat trump? no. this also a lot of republicans that have changed their minds after voting for trump and seeing what it has done to our country and to our people. do you like sanders? i do. that s who we re seeing in introduce. now take a look at some of the latest polling. this question among democratic voters who could actually beat trump. well, biden once led on this issue, but you can see the decline just in these recent week, falling below bernie sanders who would have the best chance to win the general election formed by voters who don t know which candidate would have the best chance. i would call that a very honest answer and buttigieg still leading some other candidates. to both you have, this just raises the question is electability just a place holder for momentum? i think it is, and here s the question that we re not i think speaking enough about is who exactly is going to be showing up tomorrow. this is an election unlike anything we ve seen here since 2004 where we essentially have an uncontested republican election, which means we could have a higher number of independents turn out than traditional democrats. it s likely to happen. most of the polling doesn t reflect that. most of the polling has about 60% democrats, 40% of independents. if independents are motivated tomorrow, some of those independents are bernie folks. i think they re already engaged. some of those moderate conservatives, and that could tip the balance. any poll is a combination of a prediction about the turnout universe and a question of the preferences across. right. so general election polling in 2016 was broadly accurate across the country, which is why it showed leads for hillary clinton, and she had a lead nationally, right? but people forget that particularly at the sate level, the turnout universe is everything. when you see, that we ve got huge lines for the trump rally in new hampshire tonight. what does it mean if less traditional democratic voters turnout tomorrow. it s probably better for candidates like mayor pete or amy klobuchar who are talking about transcending party lines, being able to put partisanship aside and get things done. i think there are some who will come out to vote for bernie. but one of the big questions is will all those nondemocrats who vote at the democratic party, will they coalesce behind one candidate or will they scatter the same way democrats seem to be scattering if they re not supporting bernie. and real quick against one of our shortest breaks, how many polls have you been a part of in your career roughly? hundreds? i don t do polls. that you ve analyzed. how many times have you looked at a poll? a lot. hundreds and hundreds and hundreds. is it true, because i heard a rumor statistically speaking these were actually the best survey respondents we ve ever had? no question. just wanted to get a little science in here. margin of error, john and chris, thank you. and thank you for putting up with polling humor. always very difficult. we re going to turn next to the co-chair of the sanders campaign when we re back in just 30 seconds. i got it. alexa, start roomba. the lexus es. eagerly prepared for the unexpected. lease the 2020 es 350 for $389 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. lease the 2020 es 350 for $389 a month for 36 months. tthe bad news? ouyour patience might not.ay. depend® fit-flex underwear offers your best comfort and protection guaranteed. because, perfect or not, life s better when you re in it. be there with depend®. it s the eve of this pivotal new hampshire primary, a time when the race turns from the campaigning and the persuasion to turnout. the latest polling showing two campaigns for the most momentum for that are bernie boyne and pete buttigieg. while many rival candidates agree, and that is clearly seen in how many are attacking bernie sanders like he is now the front-runner. it is not real, bernie, because two-thirds of the democrats in the senate are not on your bill. and because it would kick 139 million americans off their current health insurance in four years. how are we going to pay for it? are we going to pay for it in the form of still further taxes, or are we going to pay for it in the form of broken promises? you go into north carolina, you can win in pennsylvania, you re going win in those states in the midwest. it s not i m not i didn t put the label on bernie. bernie calls himself a democratic socialist. and we are joined now by national co-chair of that very sanders campaign, nina turner. thanks for being here tonight. thanks, ari. let s start with a little bit of policy. bernie sanders has again a lot of attention for his economics. i want to show you briefly where his plan stacks up against senator warren and now mike bloomberg. a wealth tax for billionaires by sanders is the highest, 8%. warren has that at 3. bloomberg doesn t have that. while his tax rate is 52, warren at 40, bloomberg is in with a rate at 45% and a sur tax on people making over $5 million. translati translation, it looks like even mike bloomberg is moving in your direction. what do you make of that? and do you think it s fair to say that several candidates now have economic populist proposals here? well, ari, all of the democrats are running on some version of the platform according to senator bernie sanders. so it is very clear the courage and the conviction that the senator had in 2016 is percolating throughout the democratic party so that any democratic candidate worth their salt who is running for president has to maneuver in that space one way or another. interesting to hear you put it like that. i want to also ask you about a point of criticism we ve heard, and you know i do this with all the different candidates so people can hear the answers. this one was summarized by, you know, your friend larry david. but it s a joke that touches on a criticism. take a listen to the new larry david impression. i don t know how or why it happened, but i am king of an army of internet trolls called bernie bros. could i stop them in their tracks? of course. should i? yes. will it? eh. obviously a joke, but the punch line is the idea, the insinuation that senator sanders does not do enough to address that so-called quote/unquote bro culture. your response? i mean, give me a break. listen, that s satire and i get it, but there are too many people trying to push that agenda. it s very similar to the same calculation that folks had in 2008 when they called the supporters of then senator barack obama obama boys. and the same folks are pushing this same kind of message against the people who support senator bernie sanders. senator has been very clear to everybody about staying on the issues, not talking against people. but the last time i checked, he does not control what comes out of everybody s mouth or their tweet. but if people align themselves, ari, in the way the senator conducts himself, you know and everybody in this country knows that the senator stays on the issues and not on people. furthermore, other candidates have people who support them who have been very vile and negative. and i don t hear the media or other people among the elites labeling their supporters as such. and last thing i want to ask you, there has been a lot of talk here about the idea that bernie sanders could do very well tomorrow, could do well in the upcoming states, and has a financial edge over every other democrat running right now with the exception of former republican mayor mike bloomberg. if this gets out in a couple of weeks to a race, one-on-one between the two of them, do you like that? do you welcome them that? do you think it s a race you win even how it s spent? i do, ari, because the difference between senator sanders and mayor bloomberg is that he has a movement behind him. he went to the people to lay out his vision an his message, unlike the billionaire that s buying the elections. as you know, he skipped iowa. he is skipping new hampshire, skipping nevada, skipping south carolina. so instead of bringing a message to the people and helping people to see a vision that he does not have, he is flat-out trying to buy the white house. also, the people who donate to our campaign can donate over and over and over again, and they are motivated to continue to fuel a people powered movement to catapult senator bernie sanders to be the 46th president of the united states of america. and that s how we should want it, ari, whether we re republican or democrat. we should not want the oligarchs or the plutocracy of this nation right. to be able to buy elections. should it be fueled by the team and that s how we re running and that s how we re going to win. i see you with the o word. i know you guys like that word. oh, yeah, i m saying it. i m saying it. can t stop, won t stop, oligarch. we have all the different candidates on the show. we have bloomberg the other day. we ll keep asking everybody the questions. i appreciate you joining us on the beat, nina. thank you, ari. thank you. now we turn to someone who knows how to win statewide in new hampshire far better than most, judd gregg served as governor and u.s. senator from new hampshire, a moderate republican. he backed bush and then kasich in that last republican primary. we should note he has criticized president trump and president obama asked gregg to serve in his nomination, though he withdrew his nomination for that potential position as commerce secretary. a lot of experience. i m in a room in man chester where a lot of people know you. thanks for coming on the beat tonight. thanks for having me on, ari. what do you see as key here on primary eve? which democrats running do you think have done the best to address the way that new hampshire makes its choices? i think i think as your audience seems to reflect, amy is coming up very fast. she really is sort of a new hampshire type politician in that if you look at jeanne shaheen who is our senior senator and is now our governor, she and amy are cut out of the same cloth, very serious, thoughtful individuals who are nice people and easy to get along with. i enjoyed working with amy in the senate. i like mike bennett a lot too. i was interested one of your listeners mentioned mike. i think mike is a superb talent. clearly, bernie sanders has a base in new hampshire. he was able to beat hillary clinton here. i don t think that base has been eroded significantly. there is within the democratic party a very strong progressive socialist movement. and i think that that he s got a 20 to 30% base here. but i m just not sure how this turns out if bernie wins in new hampshire, and he wins in south carolina. my sense is that rather than he being the winner, that maybe mike bloomberg s the winner, because the democratic party is going to want to nominate someone who they think can beat donald trump, and it s unlikely, in fact, is literally impossible for a socialist to beat donald trump, no matter how aggressive and how pure and how committed he is to his cause and how fanatical and how strong his followers are. not going sell in america today. we re not a socialist nation. people are going to look for somebody else to coalesce around. and right now the people who have seen all the other candidates don t seem to be building the momentum to do that. and maybe mike bloomberg comes out after super tuesday and is the competitor. have you ever seen a race heading through new hampshire that s this unsettled? oh, yeah, often. very many. new hampshire voters are number one very serious about this. they take the role of being the first primary as something that is a social and community responsibility. a lot of your listeners in that room have gone to a number of hearings, a number of events, listened to a lot of different candidates. yeah. put a lot of their personal time into this. and decisions in new hampshire are always made very late. now one of your pollster folks there said there are still a lot of people undecided. i don t agree with that. i think the majority of new hampshire people over this weekend made their decision, but it was they re late coming to the decision because they re very serious about getting to that decision. and lastly while i have you, given your record in public service, one broader news question. the president appears to be clearly retaliating against people who by all accounts provided honest testimony in the impeachment investigation. does that concern you? is that wrong for the president to do, or do you think he can pick whoever he wants regardless? you know, i m discouraged by the president s aproechl on a number of issues that involve the way the presidency is characterized and demeaning the presidency. his language, number one bothers me when he is in the white house, using words that are inappropriate for our kids to listen to. and he tends to be a polarizer. that is unfortunate. we want a president that speaks to our better angels like ronald reagan did, in my opinion. and we want a president who speaks to decency like george bush and george. with bush did in my opinion and barack obama. and unfortunately i don t think that s the president s characteristic and it s not his style, and it disappoints me. yeah. look, governor, senator gregg, i appreciate you spending time with us tonight in your home state. thank you. thank you. yes, sir, thank you very much. and we ll be right back live from new hampshire. oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! 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for the past two weeks. the other main stories on bbc news at 5. the chief executive of an nhs, at the centre of concerns over the preventable deaths of babies has played down the scale of the failings. the media watchdog ofcom is to be given new powers, to force social media firms to remove harmful content. bernie! bernie! in the us, the veteran left wing senator bernie sanders narrowly wins the new hampshire primary, a key stage of the contest to choose the democrats‘ presidential candidate. and later in the hour, we ll talk to the photographer who snapped the award winning image of two mice fighting over food, at a london tube station. it s five o clock. our main story is that the british businessman, at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak in the uk, has been given the all clear, and released from hospital. steve walsh, who s 53, contracted the virus, on a trip to singapore, and passed it on to five other britons, at a ski region in france. doctors say mr walsh is no longer contagious, and is free to return to his home in hove. meanwhile, the 12 patients treated by two british doctors, who ve been diagnosed with coronavirus, have been traced. one of the doctors worked in the a&e department at worthing hospital in west, the other is a gp in brighton. both are now in isolation, and the department of health says all services at worthing hospital are operating normally. in china, where the outbreak, the authorities have asked formula one to cancel the grand prix in shanghai, yet more evidence of of the extensive economic impact of the crisis. our correspondent andy moore reports. the accident and emergency unit at worthing hospital operating as normal today, despite the confirmation that a gp working here had tested positive for the virus. health officials emphasise that the risk to the public is minimal. we now know that two doctors working on the south coast caught the virus from a french chalet from steve walsh, who, in turn, contracted the disease at a conference in singapore. mr walsh is now back at home after two negative tests. nhs england said he no longer posed a risk to the public. he said he wanted to send a big thank you to the nhs who have been great throughout. government sources said the two doctors treated about 12 patients between them before being diagnosed. those people are now being traced. this woman was trying to contact the a&e department to find more information, because her son was there last week. i am concerned. when we initially saw it breaking in china, it kind of didn t have the impact it does now that it s over here. in brighton, it was frightening enough, but now it is in worthing. it is scary. there is an understandable concern here in the local community. coronavirus has established a toehold on the south coast. health officials are working hard to ensure it doesn t spread any further. this afternoon, the department of health said that all the 118 people who were staying in isolation in milton keynes after being flown home from wuhan had tested negative for coronavirus. but they will not be able to go home until that their two week quarantine comes to an end. we can t leave our rooms because they are doing tests. i think people are glad to be here back in the uk. icertainly am. i think my parents were more worried than i was. it is highly likely we will see some more cases based on people coming into the uk from one of the countries of concern. what we are trying to do in the phase of this response we are in at the moment is to make sure we pick up any of those very quickly and then we can identify the contacts that are closest to them and meet our criteria for being at risk of infection and we put them and ask them to stay in isolation so we can check that has happened. injapan, it s now been confirmed that more than 170 people who were on a cruise ship, the diamond princess, have coronavirus. it is the largest outbreak outside china. andy moore, bbc news. our health correspondent catherine burns is here. let s talk first of all about the man at the centre of this. the fact he has been given the all clear for more do we know about that? he put out a statement saying he is happy to be home and feeling well. he thinks the nhs. he gives us not to other people around the world who are affected other people around the world who a re affected by other people around the world who are affected by the virus. what is interesting is the timescale. he was first exposed to it betweenjanuary 20 and 23rd. now here we are, not that long ago, 23 days later at most, back in home and well. for most, back in home and well. for most people, that will be the case with this virus. most people only get quite mildly ill. what is shared reading of the response of health authorities as far as england is concerned, and they way they dealt with it and does it suggest that they think the problem is rather more serious than some people seem to think given the case of this man? they are operating on a reasonable worst case scenario. they are operating on a reasonable worst case scenario. yes, today we pray public health england, they say a lot of this really depends on how the chinese authorities get on top of it. if they do, we probably won t be looking at a massive amount of new cases come if they don t we could be looking at widespread infection. but they say the nhs is ready for that. right now we are not there. the priority is tracking any new cases when they come into getting them dealt with asap. thank you. now we will talk to another doctor. dr rebecca cooper is a public health consultant, and a councillor in worthing. which is a central area where this controversy is concern in the health crisis. thank you, rebecca for joining us. where are we today? what is your reading of where we are? you had a lot of information today that is fairly well known now, where the cost would as you know doubt they re working a there tested positive. staff were updated. that s a worthy hospital. 0n staff were updated. that s a worthy hospital. on tuesday, the doctor in question wanted to isolation and staff have been given all the due precautions. and patients the doctor has treated, public health england has treated, public health england has followed up with all of those patients. the health system as your course manager said, is wisely on top of this. we have an excellent public health system and worthing come i ve had constituents contacting me, there are concerns, primary care colleagues who had a lot of people coming and that our concern and i would like to say we have excellent health system. the risk is minimal and you can take precautions yourself by making sure that you wash your hands frequently, and that you cough and sneeze into tissues, but the rest currently is minimal. that is the key phrase. when somebody what your expertise assess the risk is minimal, some viewers will be watching and thinking, what is all the fuss been about the first place? yeah. it is interesting. i trained about the first place? yeah. it is interesting. itrained in about the first place? yeah. it is interesting. i trained in the nhs and i ve been to an outbreak like this before. what we have to realise is that we are incredibly good at responding to outbreaks in the country. we have a whole machine if you like behind this, public health england from nhs england, all of our excellent health care system, basically knows what to do. all of oui’ basically knows what to do. all of our health care and workers front line workers are very well trained in infection control and outbreak responses, so in infection control and outbreak responses, so our in infection control and outbreak responses, so our health protection agency works really hard at being good at this. when you see those responses, it basically is making sure that we are trying to shut down the virus as soon as possible and obviously with a global outbreak like this, as your correspondent said, we are dependent on a lot of factors come of this country have excellent public health system, other countries in the world look to what we do. if it feels a bit disproportionate at times, it is simply because we are trying to shut down the virus as quickly as possible and that is what i have been telling my constituents and worthing and my primary care collea g u es worthing and my primary care colleagues are saying obviously, the news, the 2a hour news covered this a lot and a lot on social media, but just take the regular precautions that you would if you wanted to avoid a cold or a flu. the risk is minimal for coronavirus and people are working really hard to make sure it stays that way. i ll be there are factors we simply cannot control or don t know about yet. in a few minutes i will talk to a gentleman who was spinning quarantines. for about two weeks. who was in quarantine. again, when you look at two weeks in isolation, and we are talking again about as you say minimal risk, that will strike some people as being excessive. how again is that justified? again, people as being excessive. how again is thatjustified? again, we have a virologist, professors, look at viruses and understand how viruses work and how they transmit and how long incubation periods can be far as you know, coronavirus, we already know it because it s cold and flu in this particular strain is new. the incubation period can be up to 11 days. we need to be on the safe side. isolating people for 1h days i appreciate that. if you are the person that is isolated, it can feel like a long time. in terms of infection control, it is the right thing to do and i think everybody who has started to isolation because you are helping us to maintain really good public health. i think everybody. thank you for talking to us. thank you to her. ten past five now. i will move onto my guest now. a bit about this practice he knows about. it s been nearly two weeks since the first plane full of british people arrived from wuhan in china. they ve been in a quarantine facility on the wirral ever since, but they are hoping to leave tomorrow. joining me now from that facility is kharn lambert thank you for joining us. tell viewers what you have been through over the last two week. it is been a long drawn out process. days have seemed like years at times. the days have been a very repetitive. we are very much looking forward to hopefully getting out of here tomorrow. is that more or less guaranteed or is there still uncertainty coachella still a little bit of uncertainty. the doctors are not on their way around with our test results from monday. hopefully in the next half an hour or so, we should know for certain whether we will be going home tomorrow. we will keep ourfingers will be going home tomorrow. we will keep our fingers crossed for you. i m wondering now given what doctor rebecca cooper was telling us about minimal risk. do you think that would you have been through is justified or do you have an element of resentment? describe how you feel about it. we are all very pleased with the weather. we are all happy we are in. i want to say happy but we are in. i want to say happy but we are in. i want to say happy but we are accepting of the fact we are in isolation. 0ur concern and will hand was that we might potentially be carrying the virus and put the rest of the public at risk when we come back. we are accepting of the situation and we understand what needs to be done to keep the rest of the public say. it might seem a very long time being and will hide. the public say. it might seem a very long time being and will hidem does. it s been a long time since i ve really seen the outside world. almost four weeks now since wuhan when it s a lockdown frustum and long time since i had a lot of freedom. described to us a bit about the kind of company and there, is there a sense of calm how does it work? there is. a very unique situation because a lot of us already know each other in wuhan and we socialise. we have that friendship already. we have also made new friends. yes, we have tried to keep you get the spirits high. making jokes, having fun when we can. so there is a good camaraderie and we are all cheering for each other with these results and hoping we can get out of here tomorrow. other with these results and hoping we can get out of here tomorrowm is the impossible question i suppose. what are your plans when you get out and in terms of returning to work and all the rest of it, because clearly that will be at the forefront of your mind really? what are you computing at the moment? we have to accept that the moment? we have to accept that the near future is the moment? we have to accept that the nearfuture is not certain the moment? we have to accept that the near future is not certain at the near future is not certain at the moment in terms of going back to china. i m just looking forward to seeing my family and friends with them i haven t seen them for over a year. with living in china. in terms of going back to work, i m suspecting and guessing and i m putting things together that i m hearing from china that it could be four, five may is it even six months before i go back to china. thank you for talking to us. we wish you well. thank you very much. hopefully he will be out tomorrow with his friends there from behind. but i thinks to him forjoining us here on bbc news. 1a minutes past five. police in northern ireland have charged a 52 year old man with the murder of the journalist, lyra mckee. the 29 year old author was shot as she observed rioting in londonderry last april. the new ira claimed responsibility for the murder, which sparked headlines and revulsion across the uk and ireland. the man, from derry, will appear before magistrates tomorrow. the headlines on bbc news. the british businessman, at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak in the uk, has been given the all clear, and allowed home from hospital. the chief executive of an nhs, at the centre of concerns over the preventable deaths of babies, has played down the scale of the failings. the media watchdog 0fcom is to be given new powers, to force social media firms to remove harmful content. and to remove harmful content. in sports, england are regrouping and in sports, england are regrouping well in the first t20 international against south africa. the host made a fast tarp in england had pegged them back with four wickets stop south africa are 150 4. another global sporting event impacted by the coronavirus. formula 1 s chinese grand prix is postponed. it is been almost two weeks since the transfer window set forth up chelsea are getting close to signing ajax wenger back with more on a little that have passed. back with more at half past. the chief executive of a nhs trust at the centre of concerns about the preventable deaths of babies has sought to downplay the scale of the failings. in a controversial interview with bbc news, susan acott, who has been chief executive of east kent hospitals trust since 2017, said there had only been six or seven preventable deaths at the trust in the last nine years. the trust has previously accepted responsibility for at least ten. ms acott also she said she hadn t read a key report from 2015 drawing attention to maternity problems at the trust until last december. here s the interview with our social affairs correspondent michael buchanan, he began by asking ms acott when she d become aware of the problems in trust s maternity services. so i was aware that the trust had got a very big focus around maternity services, it had a big transformation service, so i was aware that they felt they had to respond in a very significant fashion because of problems and maternity services. and those were around relationships amongst the clinicians, to do with staffing and equipment. so i was aware they were doing something significant because there had been well known issues. obstetricians report? which obviously preceded your time here, but highlighted the issues. do you remember when you first saw it? i saw that at the end of 2019. 2019? yes. why did it take you so long to see that report? i wasn t aware that report had actually been commissioned. i could see there were action plans associated with the maternity service, but i wasn t aware that report had been commissioned. you are saying that since 2011, the date that you have, there have been between six and seven preventable deaths at this trust? that is what it would look like. but we have given you details of ten. yeah, in terms of the investigations that my colleagues are doing, the other cases are not so obvious. or we don t think there are issues in there that were all preventable. but you have accepted. we have given you more than ten cases. but you have accepted responsibility and paid out and apologised to families in ten cases. yeah. how can you tell me that there have only been six or seven cases since 2011? well, we always. it is really important we take all of those situations seriously, but i think when i ve asked my colleagues to go back and look at the serious incidents and cases that you brought to our attention, when you go into a lot of details, it is not always so clear cut. and i think that is what i was saying, that my colleagues, my clinical colleagues think there are probably several cases that were preventable. and we need to learn, we need to apologise, and we need to really understand what caused those deaths. but in other cases, there are conflicting factors and it is not so clear cut. which doesn t mean to say that there wasn t learning, there wasn t activities that clinical colleagues in the hospital should ve done better. that was susan a kind of east kent hospital trust talking to our correspondence. “ hospital trust talking to our correspondence. susan aycock. the media watchdog ofcom is to be given new powers to force social media firms to remove harmful content. until now, companies like facebook, youtube and snapchat have largely been left to regulate themselves, but critics say independent rules are needed to keep people safe. it s not yet known what penalties companies will face if they fail to comply, as our media editor amol rajan reports. good afternoon. if you make a habit of asking young people across the country about their digital lives, you find a generation both addicted to smartphones and alert to their dangers. we just go past the terms and condition, just press agree, but, really, no one actually takes time to actually read it. those dangers, which evolve every week, and test parents‘ tech savviness, have led to long awaited legislation on online harms. its centrepieces are a statutory duty of care for companies that allow user generated content and the appointment of ofcom, as the uk s first internet regulator. but there s still no detail on what the penalties will be for companies breaking the law. is the reason that this has been a long time coming that there is a mismatch between the nature of regulation, which is slow and consensual, and the nature of technology, which is rapid and unpredictable? i think there s something in what you say there and i think when we are drafting the regulations and the law, we are going to have to be very aware of the fact that actually technology is changing so fast, there are new platforms being invented all the time, new ways of sharing content. so, actually, that s why it s really important to have an independent regulator, who in a way can be more nimble than government legislation can, in terms of being able to keep up with those changes. we know that nine million girls in europe have experienced cyberbullying before the age of 15. for a lot of people, this is long overdue. seyi akiwowo hosts workshops, like this one to local counsellors, to help people what she calls digital self care. the government need to put in the provisions and make sure there s clarity in the law. tech companies need to invest in their moderation and their policies and then citizens need to think about their language online online etiquette. responding to the proposals, facebook‘s head of uk public policy, rebecca stimpson, said. we need to see a regulator that has teeth, that has the resources and the sanctions that are necessary to take on clearly some of the largest companies in the world. now, if the uk government has the appetite to do that, it absolutely can deliver this. the aim here is to give britain the toughest internet laws in the world, while protecting free speech and enterprise. but without clarity on the punishments for offenders, it s impossible to know if that s what we ll get. joining me now is the children s commissioner for england anne longfield. it is good to have you with this commissioner. thank you forjoining us. commissioner. thank you forjoining us. first of all, i suppose the the reason a lot of this is happening is because influential people like you have not been able to get the social media companies to take the right action so far. is that a fair conclusion? it is a very fair conclusion. i have been in this role for about five years. and from the start, i have been talking to social media companies, the names of art we are all very familiar with. and the tone has changed. you do get much more of a hearing now and you heard some of the dialogue about reassu ra nces of some of the dialogue about reassurances of safety, but from the start, it is been an uphill struggle. and the fact that you have companies who have grown these very powerful industries with a business model, which is dependent on speed, innovations, swiftness to get their users addicted online from all of those things kind of right against the kind of focus of regulation, so i have been arguing very strong glue the actually much more is needed. we know that kids spend huge amounts of the time online. it is a really powerful force in the time online. it is a really powerfulforce in their the time online. it is a really powerful force in their life. the time online. it is a really powerfulforce in their life. we wouldn t let kids out and in the other community without the kind of rules that that you would expect to see in the fiscal community. so it is only right and proper that we catch up with this. i am really pleased and obviously i want it. we talk about the teeth and a second. you are on record saying that the welfare of children is an asset basically for some of these big companies which is a very strong thing to say. do you still think that it s right? well, and balance, i do. it still didn t have the same amount of resonance as the business model does. so if you think the business model for this kind of operation, as speed, the ability to get users and keep them, the algorithms that we know drive content, and we have seen the terrible downside when those tragedies such as the awful case where molly russell took her own life, and it was very clear afterwards that she had seen huge amounts of content online. around self harming. of course, no company wa nts to self harming. of course, no company wants to see that kind of a content online. but they do not seem to online. but they do not seem to online to be able enough to disrupt that business model. that is the thing. it is not enough of a concern to trump the business model. i think what is happening today and what has been planned is now the chance to rebalance that, so the user start to have much more control on what the platform they are on or in a way to have been done before. you mentioned the business model. in clearly, we know what that means. it means how much money companies can make in the profit margins and the rest of it. given that, sure that when you talk about teeth in the kind of sanctions, shouldn t they be enormous fines? what are you talking about? yes. any company that is running at the moment has seen the difference that the new regulations around data protection have made. they have meant that if companies abuse those regulations, they are likely to receive fines, which are 496 likely to receive fines, which are 4% of their annual turnover. now thatis 4% of their annual turnover. now that is the kind of amount that for global companies with a really and make a difference. so i think there has to be on the par with that. also the proposal around individuals, directors take irresponsibility or being given the responsibility. then also being required to take the blame if it doesn t happen, including potentially present sentences for sub that is the kind of level we are talking about here. it cannot be something which is swept aside as a kind of sop to all of those people who are concerned. it has to be something that goes to the core of good judgement are brown operating. that is what i hope i see. thank you for talking to us. thank you to the commissioner. in the us, the veteran left wing senator bernie sanders has narrowly won the new hampshire primary, the latest stage in the contest to choose a democratic party candidate for november s presidential election. close behind bernie sanders came the more centrist contenders, the former mayor pete buttagieg, and senator amy klobushar. the former vice presidentjoe biden a one time frontrunner finished fifth, as our chris buckler reports. cheering. bernie sanders is the political polar opposite to donald trump. but he inspires the same sort of devotion among his supporters, and in new hampshire, it helped him win the biggest share of the vote, in this, the second stage of the contest, to find a challenger to the president. thank you! and let me say tonight that this victory here is the beginning of the end for donald trump. cheering. but this primary turned out to be a three way fight, with the former mayor of south bend, indiana, pete buttigieg, cementing his reputation as a frontrunner. and amy klobuchar surging up the field to stand out from the pack. chanting: amy, amy amy! amy klobuchar‘s campaign seems to have caught fire. after an impressive performance on the debate stage last week, all of a sudden, the minnesota senator looks and sounds like a contender. we are going to south carolina. cheering. and we are taking this message of unity to the country. hello, new hampshire! cheering. to take third place, senator klobuchar leapfrogged elizabeth warren, who in a speech paid tribute to her rival‘s success, they count a woman out. cheering. we just heard from the first two of the 50 states. and she also beatjoe biden, the former us vice president who left the state rather than stay to see the results. that appears to be an obvious acknowledgement that mr biden s campaign is flagging, despite his fame and experience. the vote in new hampshire has helped to whittle down the field. the entrepreneur andrew yang and the colorado senator michael bennet have both dropped out. but there are many states to go, and despite their individual successes, there are several candidates still in with a chance of challenging mr trump. chris buckler, bbc news, new hampshire. coming up a bit later, i ll be meeting the man behind this photo aptly named ‘station squabble , which won the people s choice award for wildlife photographer of the year. to my squabbling over a bit of food i think. at a london station. yes, a truly fantastic high impact full photo which won that award. well talk to him a little later on. time for a look at the weather here s chris. hi. thank you. we have got potentially some disrupt the weather on their way. storm dentist that will arrive this weekend. likely to cause some impact but before we get there, we have this ridge of high pressure. “ there, we have this ridge of high pressure. storm dennis. the sky is clear in the temperature plummet across scotland and northern england. widespread and sharp frost. southwest, quite milderfor some cloud when the rain gather and that in itself is what likely to cause a few issues. the rain bumped into the cold air in turns to snow. it may be down to lower levels for a time in scotla nd down to lower levels for a time in scotland as well. snow could be an issue locally as we start off thursday morning. enter the rest of the day come this rain and hail snow slow to ease. a lot of cloud here and staying quite cold, otherwise milder conditions blowing into the south and a few showers. gusty winds likely developing toward southern coastal counties. that is a little warm up act because as we head into this weekend, we have storm dennis on its way. that will bring severe gales, heavy rain with a risk of flooding and are likely to see some disruption and the disruption from that storm will be in different areas saturday, sunday and even lasting into monday as well. this is bbc news. the headlines: the british businessman at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak in the uk has been given the all clear and allowed home from hospital. 53 year old businessman steve walsh, who is linked to 11 cases of coronavirus, has been told he is no longer contagious. all 83 people who have been held in quarantine in the world are going home tomorrow. their test have all proved negative but experts are still concerned that people may be in the uk and spread the virus to others. what we are trying to do at the phase of this response but we are at the moment is to make sure we pick up any of those very quickly and then we can identify the contacts that are closest to them that meet our criteria for being at risk of infection and we put those. ask those to stay in isolation and check that that has happened. the chief executive of an nhs trust at the centre of concerns over the preventable deaths of babies has played down the scale of the failings. the media watchdog ofcom is to be given new powers to force social media firms to remove harmful content. in the us, the veteran left wing senator bernie sanders narrowly wins the new hampshire primary, a key stage of the contest to choose the democrats presidential candidate. and later in the hour, we ll talk to the photographer who snapped the award winning image of two mice fighting over food at a london tube station. good afternoon. south africa are closing in on a big first innings score in the opening t20 international against england. it s the first of three, and remember there s the t20 world cup coming up in october. england captain owen morgan won the toss and chose to bowl first. south africa then started really well with the bat, their captain quiton de kock with a rapid fire 31. his opening partner temba bavuma has been the main man for the home side though he hit 43 before he was caught out. so england will be batting soon with jos butler set to open. south africa are now 107 for 7. the chinese grand prix has been postponed because of the coronavirus outbreak. it was supposed to be held on the 19th of april in shanghai which is 500 miles from wuhan where the outbreak started. adam wild reports. it is not a decision taken lightly but due to the scale of the outbreak it was expected. the grand prix has been postponed due to the coronavirus s spread. it is more than 500 miles from wuhan, but because of fears across the globe about the speed and severity of the outbreak, organisers were left with little choice. we have already seen other sporting events been cancelled. the national football league was postponed, also a formula e race was postponed, so it was the only thing that could happen. statement today points to efforts that the need to ensure that the health and safety of travelling staff remains a primary concern. it was on to say. but that may prove problematic with 22 races on this year s counter, finding space for a rescheduled race will be easy. it is jam-packed, so where they re going to visit is anybody s guess. i can see where it will fit into the counter, it is all well and good to have the top of a postponement, but i think it will end up cancelled. so shanghai is out for now, what about the others? concerns had been taken place on the vietnamese race. so far, that remains unaffected. but this point, like the rest of the world, will continue to be attention. football s transfer window may be long shut, but chelsea are getting close to agreeing a deal to sign ajex winger hakin ziyech. they re in advanced talks to bring him to stamford bridge this summer and a deal worth £38 million is expected to be announced in the next few days. the moroccan international would be frank lampard s first signing since chelsea had a transfer ban lifted. the nominees have been announced for the bbc women s footballer of the year. there s just one english player among the five. here they are, lucy bronze, the england and lyon defender is nominated, two world cup winners for the us too in megan rapinoe and julie ertz. the new chelsea forward sam kerr and arsenal s vivianne miedema make up the shortlist. you can vote on the bbc sport website right now. the future of the rugby league has been booted out as funding has been halved. the uk s rugby body had increased money going in but now it has been decreased again. the super league side warrington wolves have suspended centre anthony gelling. the club hasn t given the reasons why but it s pending an investigation into his conduct away from the club. the 29 year old says he s fully supportive of the investigation. the cleveland browns defensive end myles garrett has been reinstated to the nfl, after being suspended for hitting another player with his helmet. it was one of the most shocking moments of last season and it happened in the brown s game agains the pittsburgh steelers in november, quaterback mason rudolph on the receiving end. the suspension was originally indefinite and meant garrett missed the last 6 games of the season. south africa finished the innings on 177 for eight in that first t20 against england. we ll have more for you in sportsday at half past six. universities across the uk are using gagging clauses to silence student complaints about sexual assault, bullying and poor teaching. research carried out by the bbc found nearly a third of institutions have used non disclosure agreements to resolve grievances in the past four years. universities uk, the body that represents the colleges, says ndas should not be used to stop students from speaking out, as our correspondent rianna croxford reports. do british universities have something to hide? our investigation has found widespread use of gagging clauses across the uk. students asked to sign nondisclosure agreements or ndas to stay silent on serious issues, like sexual assault. that s what olivia, not her real name, says happened to her when she spoke to university staff. they told me not to tell my parents, to not tell my friends and just basically be quiet about it. she reported being raped by another student on campus. her university asked her to sign a contract that said she will be expelled if she goes public. it felt like something to be ashamed of, something i couldn t talk to anyone about, and i couldn t raise issues about they handled things. the police dropped her case, saying it would be hard to prove in court and so her university won t investigate. i ve been waking up multiple times a night to check my doors were locked and i was still having nightmares. nearly a third of universities have used non disclosure agreements when resolving student complaints, paying out more than £1.3 million since 2016. i feel they treated me like dirt, like an inconvenience, somebody to get rid of. this former oxford university student has broken her nda to talk to us at the risk of being sued. she was paid off after raising concerns about the treatment of suicidal students. there were a number of students, who we knew were suicidal. i saw no responsibility or no care of students well being. why do you think it is important to speak out? why now? i have witnessed and experienced so many problems. if people don t speak out, things will never change. oxford university says it doesn t comment on individual cases but confirmed it did carry out a review into student welfare after the complaint adding it provides a high level of support to students. our investigation also found not all students got a pay out. olivia didn t. she signed her nda so that neither her, or the student she accused, could contact each other. basically, to feel safe, i had to promise never to tell anyone or face expulsion. they should acknowledge there is a problem and try and take steps to tackle it. the government has told the bbc the use of ndas for student complaints is unacceptable and is clamping down on the practice. lawyers say universities are often using these agreements to protect their reputations but students wonder who is protecting them. rianna croxford, bbc news. with me is dr emma chapman, a campaigner for the 1752 group, a uk based research and lobby organisation working to end sexual misconduct in higher education. she also went through a sexual harassment case herself at a uk university and refused to sign a non disclosure agreement. thank you. just for viewers to understand, in your case, what led to the issue of the nda and the fact that you are saying you were not going to sign it? i experienced several series of sexual harassment, bullying, during my phd. that was traumatic enough that i chose to make a complaint when i realised that i was not the first woman and i wa nted that i was not the first woman and i wanted to be the last woman. i made a complaintand wanted to be the last woman. i made a complaint and went to my university for support and what i thought would be some justice but, u nfortu nately, thought would be some justice but, unfortunately, it was a very long, 19 months, mishandled complaint. 19 months of my life i was genuinely fea rful months of my life i was genuinely fearful for months of my life i was genuinely fearfulfor my months of my life i was genuinely fearful for my safety. i received threatening phone calls in retaliation. it was a dreadful time of my life and it was mishandled to the point of being settled after 19 months with the accuser, so the accuser “ months with the accuser, so the accuser the perpetrator, universities set up with the perpetrator without the knowledge of the complainant or our consent. all of our complaints were sent out the window. at that point, because i was still under a lot of confidentiality, you are told that everything is in the strictest confidence all the time, which you can understand when you are going to the process but, when it is done, to still be told you are not allowed to talk about the most awful experience you have had, it was beyond the pale for me so i decided to take legal action. i took a guest university with the legal team and what they did was they asked for confidentiality waivers for me. at that point i was asked to sign a nda. and your response was? is it reputable? my official response was i would not be doing that. repeatable. i said i wanted to speak out to not only protect my own career, i was being defamed in a small group of researchers, i am in a small field, so as long as something comes out, that you are a troublemaker, it is over. so i had to speak out. i was also involved in the lot of gender equality campaigning and! the lot of gender equality campaigning and i could not believe that this had happened to me, i could not believe that i had gone to an institution for help and it had all been turned against me and i was left with a career and a life in tatters while the perpetrator could go on with relative anonymity and claim innocence which was false. how extensive a scandal is this throughout the field of higher education? it is epidemic levels. every time this story has come up, i am contacted by dozens of people, today even, about this. it happens today even, about this. it happens to students, it happens to staff, it happens to people that have been sexually assaulted and raped. we are talking about people who have been raped and i ve been told to shut up about it. that is incredible. this is not a great area. what is it about the institutional culture of some of these places that allows that to happen? that protects people? good question. ithink it is a mixture of having supervision relationships within academia, which is very hierarchical. your career is dependent on a hand full of people. if you are not one of those by, for example, not liking being harassed, then you are in a lot of trouble. also, you have this culture of genius. you have this false culture of single geniuses who bring in a lot of money in academia and they need to be protected. that is interesting. response from various institutions saying that they no longer used nondisclosure agreements with individuals who have complained of sexual misconduct, harassment or bullying as a matter of course. we hope it sends a clear message that they will not tolerate any of it. they go on to list and a number of proactive measures that are tackling these problems, online reporting tools, institution campaigns, strategy groups to talk about it, and on it goes. for you, as a package, does that work?m and on it goes. for you, as a package, does that work? it is definitely a great step forward and ucl have been making great steps forward. it is a shame it did what it did to happen but it is not happening across the sector. individual universities come out with these steps, but it is not institutional. we see a lot of shame with universities wanted to come forward. they are still using these nda is to protect their reputation and until they stop doing that, but the all come forward and admit that they have treated people dreadfully in the past, they have to learn from it and we need to do out altogether. we are not seen the action right now. but we are seeing that sector bodies, all of them have submitted strong statements saying that using nondisclosure agreements to subjugate vulnerable parties is never acceptable and has to stop. why universities are still being sought to do that is unforgivable. it is very good a you to shine a light on it and lots of viewers will find your remarks very interesting and quite reviewing. thank you very much. it was good of you to join us here. mps are currently debating new legislation which is aimed at preventing the automatic early release of people convicted of terrorism offences. it follows two attacks in london, carried out by men who had been released on licence. here s what the justice secretary robert buckland had to say when he opened the commons debate. twice in the last few months we have seen twice in the last few months we have seen appalling and senseless attacks on members of the public by terrorist offenders. in november last year, to bright and promising young lives were cut heartbreakingly short. the perpetrator, usman khan, was released automatically halfway through a 16 year sentence for preparing a terrorist act. that tragedy was made all the more poignant by the fact that these victims were dedicated to the rehabilitation of offenders, helping people to get their lives back on track. the attack in streatham on the 2nd of february this year came asa the 2nd of february this year came as a stark reminder of the risks when these sorts of offenders are let out automatically before they have said theirfull let out automatically before they have said their full sentences. the bill has received cross party support. here s labour mp and chair of the home affairs committee, yvette cooper. i rise to support this legislation and the purpose behind this bill is the right one, to make sure that those convicted of terrorist offences a re those convicted of terrorist offences are not released early without wrongful assessment of whether they still pose a danger to the public. in the last few months, we have seen those two awful terror attacks, one on london bridge and one in streatham and our hearts will go out to those who are killed or hurt but also to their families and those who wither and witness the awful as well. the headlines on bbc news: all 83 people held in quarantine in the world are told we do not have a virus and will be sent home tomorrow. the chief executive of an nhs trust at the centre of concerns over the preventable deaths of babies has played down the scale of the failings. the media watchdog ofcom is to be given new powers to force social media firms to remove harmful content. a photograph of two mice fighting over a scrap of food at a london tube station has won the people s vote at the wildlife photographer of the year awards. sam rowley‘s photo, called station squabble, was one of 25 shortlisted for the competition, which will be displayed in an exhibition at the natural history museum. and sam is with me now. this image that we have been looking at is the most liked photo ever on the bbc instagram accounts and in about six hours has already racked up about six hours has already racked up 280,000 likes, something which some of us can only dream of. did you ever think that when you ca ptu red you ever think that when you captured that, did you think yes! no, ididn t. i captured that, did you think yes! no, i didn t. iwas captured that, did you think yes! no, i didn t. i was quite annoyed because i lay on a station platform for seven nights and i didn t get the shot i wanted to hear that, yeah, i need betterjudgment. iwas after you dish different shot entirely but needed more equipment with more people to ask questions when you are done on these platforms. it gets more and more difficult. so viewers aren t confused, you there in the first place? i was doing in the urban wildlife project that i was carrying out in london over the week and i got a text message in the middle of the night by my mate who was on the way back from a night out in london. she took a photo of nice on the platform that were going around your feet and that was the exact time i was looking for a project. the penny dropped and i knew what i needed to do and! dropped and i knew what i needed to do and i did it. it was an experience. we are looking at this, which is such a strong and memorable image. what were you looking for if it wasn t that? i want to do some flash, white angle lenses to put them at small and the prominent foreground image. i didn t really wa nt foreground image. i didn t really want them to disappear into the background but i got quite lucky with the silhouette so you can pick up with the silhouette so you can pick up quite easily still. they are trying to work out with the stationers, i do want army, where you? it is our secret. you can make your assumptions. the image is amazing. just in terms of the waitlist was constructed, the beds there and everything, when you took there and everything, when you took the image, you already said that you did not think it was a big deal, but you must have had some sense of capturing something pretty good? something that had potential?” don t know what i was thinking. these things are very subjective and i went on that night and spoke to my brother and i said, what you think of this? he told me it wasn t my best. i pleaded for bed to bed for two years so i have to blame him! you are no stranger to photography. i have been doing this in london for 15 years i have been around the world and be very lucky. working and somewhere like the underground, we got more images here, otherwise it also has a strong impact, as a place for a photographer, is it uniquely challenging? does it offer the lighting that we see here that you would not see elsewhere?” lighting that we see here that you would not see elsewhere? i was after that relate ability, that aspect that relate ability, that aspect that people can connect to. most people live in urban areas and don t get to go to the far reaches of the jungle. this is a sort of thing that people know best i think that that has struck more of a chord with people than it otherwise would have done. i wasjust people than it otherwise would have done. i was just surprised that no one beat me to it. many congratulations and well done. we will watch the instagram likes going up, thank you. most of the weather. now it s time for a look at the weather. hello there. ston dennis is working its way towards the weekend and it will be bringing some disruptive weather away. before we get there, some time to enjoy the snow covered landscapes in scotland. overnight it will get called for a time in scotla nd will get called for a time in scotland and northern england, a sharp frost, temperatures will go down to minus one degree. later tonight will see this band of cloud and rain and brisk breezes kissing in. it may turn to snow for the time in northern england and scotland. that is the risk of some disruption, slippery on the roads first thing on thursday morning. after that, the hill snow and rain mike will be left with a lot of plantier. inside it is getting milder but quite windy. some showers still around. friday sees another band of rain pushed in and this one is going to bring heavy rain to the site of scotland, combined with snowmelt. the weather is being very worked and that increases some more areas flooding. the weather front weakened as it heads towards eastern england. last weekend, we set a new record for a sub supersonic flight across the atlantic. the fight between new york and london to less than five hours to cross the atlantic. why am i tell you this? this weekend we have got an incredibly strong jet strea m have got an incredibly strong jet stream peaking at 225 mph. it will push planes across the atlantic very quickly and it will also take out an incredibly deep area of low pressure. this is storm dennis and it is going to be influencing the weather across the uk and saturday, sunday and into monday. we are likely to see some disruption from it and this is the weather menu for the next few days. gusts of up to 70 mph, severe gales, and heavy rain. we are likely to see some low cloud and flooding and risk of disruption. on saturday, the strongest winds will be on the western side of the country. probably the heaviest rain will be working across wales and southern counties of england with the risk of localised flooding. it turns milderfor a time but into sunday we see another area of rain pushing into those same areas we have seen already. we could see some low clouds flooding across wales and southern england and it will also get windier across the irish sea and english channel coast. it is 60 mph wind which is strong enough to bring down trees. sunday night into monday, as no pressure goes eastwards, you will have strong winds across in scotland and northern england. quite a lot of us will see problems as we head into this weekend. the baby death scandal at an nhs trust. the woman in charge appears to downplay what has happened. at least ten babies died at east kent nhs trust who s boss is now questioning how many of those deaths are preventable. there are six or seven cases that are viewed likely is preventable. this is not credible. i can give you ten names now. it isn t always quite as clear cut as that. now. it isn t always quite as clear-cut as that. also on the programme tonight. a 52 year old man charged in connection with the murder of lyra mckee in londonderry.
being able to look your child in the eye and say everything is okay. american people are not asking for anything other than a chance. an even chance. they re being denied that. this is about your place in the community, he says. amy eni looked at everything. there goes trump. anyway. the prison, how it affects you. your family, your community. that s why i m a democrat. that s why i got involved in the first place. there isn t a battle for soul of if democratic party. but it s a soul for america. not sowing more division and anger. and not only fighting as president, but a president that will heal the country. the country has to be healed. behave to beat donald trump in the republican party. but we can t become like them. we have to heal the divisions and repair our democracies. the republican voters know we have to he ll this country. and fight for the rproposition, that all men and women are created equality. there s person inalienable rights. that s the uniqueness of america. we re based on an idea. we ve never lived up to it. but we never have walked away like this president has. i believe in every fiber in my being, is to further open the aperture of conclusion. making sure people have a shot. i want to recognize three people that have dedicated their careers. collin nauert. he flipped this district. and took the house in 2016. he dreid what i dreamed of doin playing in the nfl. we have to make sure he holds that seat in november. and marc veasey. good love him. he s led the fight offal the erosion of voting act. half of the stations have put up barriers. and johnson is a legend. she s a woman who knows how to get things done for the people of balance. and she leaves nobody behind. the days of donald trump will soon be over. the american people have seen the alternative. there s two ways that people get inspired. they get inspired by great leaders, like kennedy, and lincoln, and obama. and they are also inspirped by very bad leaders. this president has ripped the band-aid off. he has literally strangled the republican party. this is about restoring the character of america. not a joke. we ve been damaged all over the world. we ve been damaged badly. his race of thugs and dictators, the way he treats our military and talks about them. the way he demeans people. ladies and gentlemen, he s never done anything other than, other than seek division. folks, it s time to get back up. we re decent and brave and we can believe again. we re better than this moment and this president. get up, and take back this country. there s not a single thing we cannot do if we do it together. god bless you all and may god protect our troops. there s one more person i want to thank. a man who affected this state and nation. a man who had enormous compassion and courage. a man with unlimited future. a man who will be changing this nation for years to come, ladies and gentlemen, beto o rourke, and his wife, amy. come on, beto and amy. amy, watch your step here. god love you. thank you. thank you. dallas. dallas. denton. collin. anybody from the rio grande valley. far west texas and el paso. lubbo lubbock, amarillo. on behalf of every 1 of the 254 counties of this great state, we welcome dr. jill biden and joe biden. [ speaking spanish ] ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow, march 3rd, 2020, i will be casting my ballot for joe biden. and let me tell you why. we need somebody who can beat donald trump. the man in the white house today, poses an existential threat to this country, to our democracy, to free and fair elections. we need somebody who can beat him. in joe biden, we have someone that can is the antithesis in donald trump. he is caring and everyompatheti. the vice president was at a town hall in south carolina. and dr. reverend anthony thompson, talked about losing his wife in 2015. and joe biden listened to him, with his eyes closed so he could concentrate on that every, single word that man said. he spoke back to him with compassion and the power to he l heal. he wanted to heal that man. for someone that lives in el paso, texas, where 22 people were killed, solely based on their ethnicity on the color of their skin of country of national origin. at a time this country is so polarized, so deeply divided, we need somebody who can bring us together and heal us. we need somebody who will fight for democracy here and abroad because democracy is under attack here and aprbroaabroad. we need joe biden. and mr. vice president, i have traveled to each of the counties of texas. i know this state. and the fact that you take the time to listen to us, to be here, to understand our concerns, as well as our aspirations, means the world to us. this is a state that is dead-last. we have people dying of diabetes. the largest mental health county system in the state is the jail in the state. those being arrested are getting the fair they cannot find otherwise. we know you re going to lead us to make sure there s health care for each and every one of us. mr. vice president, you also know, inthat whether it was sutherland springs, or midland, odessa in the same year, we understand the devastating toll of gun violence. in a mass shooting at a walmart our a school, taking them of our communities of color, one or two at a time. who don t make the front page or the news. you re going to stand up for each one of us and end to the selling of weapons of war in our communities. keep that on the battlefield. don t bring it into our homes. and, mr. vice president, this energy-growth state, wants to be the state, with your leadership, leads the charge to confront climate change before it s too late. we re counting on you. in 2018, all of us, a lot of good people who are here on this stage, out there, throughout the state, ran the greatest grassroots campaign texas has ever seen. we won more votes than any democrat had in texas history. young voter turnout, up 500% in early voting. and he s were the gains. 12 new members of the statehouse, all democrats, replacing republicans. two new members of congress, including collin allred, right in this community. 17 african-american women, elected to positions in harris county. now is the time, to finish the job. make sure we have the nine seats we need. end the gerrymandering in texas. and move forward about the items we tear about. you can help us do that. i want to let you know. i love you, too. we all know joe and jill. we re going to take them to a world-class meal. there s a wahataburger half a mile from here. but first, make this one promise. i m getting wa inting w intinh being shouted. are you with me? are you with joe? ladies and gentlemen joe biden. let s do it for joe. i want to make something clear. i m going to guarantee you, this is not the last you re seeing this guy. you will take care of the gun problem with me. you will be the one that leads this effort. i m counting on you. i m counti ining on you. the state needs you, the country needs you. you re the best. thank you. thank you. thank you. come up here, guys. great to see you, man. that s the conclusion of joe biden s rally in dallas, texas, with some surprises, including beto o rourke, as the last endorser of the day. a day filled with dramatic endorsements of the biden campaign. joining our discussion, david plouffe, the former campaign manager and senior adviser for president barack obama. he s the author of a citizen s guide to beating donald trump, john is with us, the editor in chief on the recount. and cecile richards. she interviewed joe biden and all of the candidates. cecile, we re starting with you. your mother, ann richards, was the last democratic governor of the state of texas. a lot has changed since she left office in 1990. i want to get your reaction for what happened there in dallas. a lot of the texans, are seeing it happen now. this isn t a fluke. this is ten years of long, hard work. the it s fueled by women and young people to think that texas is in place, is a s mazing. four polls are showing that the president is under 50%. david plouffe, you come to us from a success frl democratic campaign manager in this country. what do you see from this campaign? taken from the totality to the joe biden endorsements to the sande sanders campaign. super tuesday set up well for bernie sanders. if you re joe biden, you need to survive it. joe biden has good states later in march. georgia, florida, mississippi. i think sanders is obviously, huge crowds. they ve been spending money. it s been an amazing 24 hours for joe biden. he has to survive tomorrow. his back is against the wall for super tuesday. this looks like a two-person race, on who has the ability to get the delegates you need, to have a majority or 1,500 or 1,600. you re in the conversation from a delegate standpoint. so, it comes up against the reality of tomorrow. a bunch of states where, you know, he s scrambling to get viability like minnesota, massachusetts and california. the other thing about texas and california, a lot of people have voted. joe biden is going to have to overperform on election day. are endorsements normally easy to shrug off when covering a campaign? they normally don t need much. but jim clyburn s endorsement meant a lot. this day of endorsements, has a similar feel. it took a bunch of them, to equal one jim clyburn endorsement. he got a bunch today. there s a couple questions. there s no doubt that these people are vdropping out, are o the material impact. one thing we have to focus on. the accumulation. people like amy koeb chlobuchar pete buttigieg, that wouldn t have been vie ibl on tuesday. this voters that are more likely in joe biden s column, those are more likely. i don t think so much. it doesn t purt. and certainly, the impression that the party, the nonsanders wing of the party, is rallying around biden and creates a powerful sense of moment. it has a downside. bernie sanders feeds off of the sense that the establishment is out to get him. the establishment is aligning forces to keep him from his fate. what he believes is his just dessert. and for a lot of the sanders voters, the sight of the establishment colluding will gin them up. and i think that bernie sanders gets some mileage out of this. sanders will point to this and say, they are trying to stop me. i won t let them. i m sure you re getting calls from texas voters. i know a lot of california voters this week. what do i do now, as some of the candidates started to drop out? when i hear pete buttigieg, earlier tonight, as he did with joe biden, get up and say, this is why hee is voting for joe biden, i know that is specific guidance to some california voters that are going to vote tomorrow, that were going to pete buttigieg, until today. i m sure there s a conversion of votes to biden. i m sure what john says is true. a lot of votes have been banked. the late-breaking change is you can t overestimate. i want to continue to remind people of. the vast majority of voters are women at this point. what i m hearing from women is, they want to win. they re very practical. and i think that joe biden has had a very good 48 hours. they re looking for somebody to go up against donald trump and win. we have video of pete buttigieg endorsing joe biden earlier tonight. his responsibility to that. as soon as we have that, we ll show that. it was a powerful moment. what do you make of the value and the transfer ability in leaving what is already gone? the transferability, saying i m going to vote for joe. and the transferability for army klobuchar and others. the votes that were planning to vote for them, are not all going to joe biden. both of them, as far as endor endorsements go, gave strong reasons to vote joe biden. biden is something that is closest to me. it s something i have to do. i thought they were strong endorsements. i live in california. i ve gotten texts from local vice presidents, from the sanders, the warren and from bloomberg. none from biden. he s living off of momentum. you re hoping you can get the support he needs. i think he s positioned well. i agree with you, lawrence. there s a lot of people, if they got their ballot in the mail, they held on to it. biden is closing as well as he could. it s not about winning the state, in all likelihood. it s getting over 15%, staid-wide, and enough to be viable. about a week ago, the sanders haul looks like it could be enormous. bernie sanders is going to do well tomorrow. biden may have the ability to keep that in his sights. isn t sand earp ers ready to down his delegate count? there s places. mike bloomberg, if he clears viability, he is he is taking questions away from biden, bloomberg may drive down the delegate accumulation of that state. the nightmare for biden, is where mike bloomberg is at 12%, 14%. not gaining any delegates. not hurting bernie sanders. but taking votes away that would have gone to joe biden. that s the worst-case scenario. and it s the one that mike bloomberg fear the most. they have been arguing with him over the last couple of days. he would do a party a favor. and if he wants to keep bernie sanders to be the idea, his thought is he would drop out yesterday. but the mayor s point of view, was for, i am running in a state. it s not the most strategic point of view. but some can understand at the human level. thank you all for starting us off on this very important night. possibly the most important night, prior to the most important day of the campaign yet. david plouffe s book, a citizen s guide to beating donald trump. up next, my interview with joe biden. liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. saving for ava s college. financial security. being able to retire. on our terms. no matter what your goals are, our trusted advisors can help you reach them. ameriprise financial. than rheumatoid arthritis or psoriatic arthritis. when considering another treatment, ask about xeljanz xr, a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis or active psoriatic arthritis for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. it can reduce pain, swelling, and significantly improve physical function. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb; don t start xeljanz if you have an infection. taking a higher than recommended dose of xeljanz for ra can increase risk of death. serious, sometimes fatal infections, cancers including lymphoma, and blood clots have happened. as have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, and changes in lab results. tell your doctor if you ve been somewhere fungal infections are common, or if you ve had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. don t let another morning go by without asking your doctor about xeljanz xr. without asking your doctor shouldn t you pay less when ynow you can.data? 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i know it s hard at this distance to assess what this white house is doing. what would president biden s work today be on the coronavirus? the question is how much creditability the president has. the president speaks for the nation. and gives concern to and/or brings some solace to the rest of the world. this is not a political comment. it s a literal comment. he has no credibility on this issue. after the ebola epidemic, we put an office in the white house. next to the president. we worked on a range of things. back in january, the president was told this could be moving forward. they did not do anything to get testing kits out. the greatest worry i have is, people look to a president. and they re looking to a voice of authority. they cannot trust this voice. this is a guy until a couple of days ago, said this was a democratic plot or however he phrased it. what i would be doing, i would not have done the things he did. right now, if i was droched in and president, i would be ramping up considerably, the states and the hospitals, to be prepared to have the intake of crisis patients that come along. i would ramp up, the number of testing kits that are available. for example, i would told by a friend, whose son was coming back from another country. we re getting off the plane. they had to know what seat he was in and that he had been tested. it s not a moment to panic. but let the scientists speak. the president and the vice president should coordinator if they can. but let the scientists speak. and the new york times is reporting today, that a florida man who returned from china, felt sick. and he got tested. he now has a bill for $3,200. doing the responsible thing. go get tested, when you come back from china. what could you do about that? the $3,270 ? we said all of this testing was free. this president wiped that out. we anticipated this because of our work on the ebola crisis. we said free. all testing is free. the idea that we will charge people to do the right thing is bizarre. and he s in court now, to wipe out obamacare. he s decimated it. that s being reported. how many people will go in and get tested? it s free. it should be free. f-r f-r-e-e. bernie sanders says this is the case for medicare for all. that anyone would know they could get off of an airplane, feel sick and get tested and not be hit by one of these bills. they know that under obamacare. they know that. you don t need medicare to be tested for this. you can dictate that you would have it for free. if you wait for bernie to be tested, that s four years, to get it passed. and then, taking time to phase in on top of it. this is about now. if i m elected the president of the unite. i can get obamacare is not at another action. and i laid out how to pay for it and where to get it done. and he s talking about a trillion-dollar program. i respect the fact he wants to do it. but level with the american people. he didn t tell the other half of the tax is you. it will double on your social security tax. people need hope, lawrence. you know it better than i do. they need to know that their need can be done and is likely to happen quickly. i can get reducing drug prices, passed. and i can get it done immediately. obamacare, there is 28 million people that do not have health insurance at all. what could you do to close that gap? medicare for all closes it. that s a solution for 100% coverage. what is your way to get to 100% coverage? in many states, the republican graffers have not taken advantage of what obamacare called for. that s 100% for people that who have medicaid. i came out of a state where there s 200,000 people, because the governor would not let it happen. i add to obamacare, i add a public option of medicare for those who want it. they would be automatically enrolled in medicare. but they can t afford it. they can buy into the plan. they can buy into medicare for all. it s their choice. bernie wipes out 145,000 health care plans that labor unions have given up salaries more, that are robust. and they are gone. look, lawrence. i know you, i watched you. you know moynihan. what did pat always talk about? what can get done? tell me what you re going to do and how you can get it done. do you think there s a possibility of passing a $35 trillion plan, without telling anybody who is going to pay for it? ten-times the cost of what i m talking about, 3$3.5 billion a year. i think people are looking for authenticity and honesty. i admire bernie s deseire here. do you think there s a chance of passing through a democratic house of representatives? you get a democratic senate, this time around. you think it passes? come on. be honest with the american people. pete buttigieg has dropped out. this is a guy who is brillia brilliant. he is vote vated by the right purposes. we have very much in common. i called him to urge him and plead with him. he has to stay involved. we talk about passing the torch. we have to. we have to build um the branch. there s really qualified people. i warned him, i would ask him to join me. he must stay engaged. he has great capacity. he doesn t have enough of a national profile to demonstrate to people, who they are and the depth of who they are. it goes from him to mitch landrieu and other people of significant capability. they have to stay in the game and get in the game. i don t want the presumption of saying, i am going to be the nominee. but if i am the nominee, i will ask him to participate. are you asking him to join you on the ticket as the presidential nominee? no. i m saying to join me. there s a change of things and positions he can fill if he wants to help. this is a confident, capable man. we ll have more of my interview with joe biden from earlier today after this break. i asked him about htelephone conversation with president obama. did they discuss an endorsement? so call 1-800 farmers to get a quote. we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum (sensei) a live bookkeeper quickbooks for me.tomize (live bookkeeper) okay, you re all set up. 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did you ask for one? did he offer one? did you discuss it as something that would happen later down the line? the reason why the two closest president and vice president have ever been, is joe biden and barack obama because i never discuss our conversations. and i m not going to start now. was that the first call during the campaign? or has he been calling? look, i have spoken to the president, not infrequently. i asked him not to endorsement because the first thing that happened, lawrence, and you ll know this better. is when i announced, biden feels entitled. he is running on obama s coat tails. i did not think it would be helpful to me if the president came out and endorsed me on the front end of this. it would have gotten to the notion of entitlement. i real ly thought and i still believe, i have to do this on my own. if i am the conominee, the form president, are have you noticed? all of the ads, everybody is loving barack obama. bernie sanders should be primaried in 2016. mike is a good guy, mroom berg. but saying that health care was a disaster. it s a matter of me winning it on the merits. i think we need a democrat as the nominee. literally. i m an obama/biden democrat. we ve been progressive. we saved this economy. we grew it in a way that s larger than trump has grown it in three years. and we were working on building up the middle class and things fell apart. we lost. it s about building on not going back to. building on and moving the next step to bring everybody along. so, that s what i mean. we need a democrat. who is able to put together the coalitions that we put together. suburban women. across the board. i think that we got that off the ground. for example, we talk about how, you know, bernie s turning out all of the vote. bernie s a great guy. if you look at south carolina, there were, i think, 158,000, or something like that. 100,000 more votes than when barack ran in 2008. they turned out. and they turned out. i got those votes, the vast majority of them. what is starting to happen is we re beginning to focus on the choices here. a guy wants a revolution. we re going to have results. he entered the race on the assumption he could grab your support, as he entered the race. his numbers went up. yours went down. it was almost a direct transfer from biden to bloomberg support. what would you say to super tuesday voters, voters trying to decide between joe biden and mike bloomberg? elect a democrat. elect a democrat. mike is a good guy. but mike is not a democrat. that was my interview with presidential candidate, joe biden. we recorded that earlier today. we are awaiting a rally in monterey park, california. the elizabeth warren rally. it was skezed to start about 20 minutes ago. they re behind schedule, which is normal, for campaign rallies like this. that s where the elizabeth warren rally is tonight, in california. bernie sanders was in minnesota. and you saw joe biden earlier, in texas. we re joined by david plouffe. he s the successful campaign manager for barack obama s campaign for the white house in 2008. david, there are so few of you, democratic successful campaign managers. you can fit together in a car. not a big one. i want to get your reaction to where the elizabeth warren campaign stands tonight. it s viable in california and viability in massachusetts and other places. she has a real new surge of funding, about $29 million. where does she go from here? first of all, lawrence, i m pretty confident we ll have another prominent democratic campaign partner. elizabeth warren, i think the question for her is, the campaign put out a memo. they were clear, suggesting their route wasn t to win the most delegates, but to win enough at the contention. i think she will get some delegates tomorrow. she s been a strong performer. say you have sanders and biden having the same number of delega delegates. you re going to decide that the person who came in third or fourth is going to get the nomination. i don t see that. if she performs well, maybe she gets into the delegate conversation. but i think convention strategies, generally, are not destined to succeed. she will have to see where she is, coming out of it tomorrow. but to roll out with a couple hundred delegates, and be the nominee, it will be people that roll into milwaukee, if we don t have a nominee prior to the conventi convention. we ve been hearing from joe biden, in this hour. i had that prerecorded interview with him. and his event went over into this hour. i want to hear from elizabeth warren also. we have this from an interview that cecile richards did. this exchange is one of the more personal elements. the personal reason the candidates got in. listen to this. i thought i would do this as a teacher. and then, the fight comes to your door. you can back away or jump all the way in. and that happened to me. sometimes it s more funding for child care. sometimes the fight is to fry a ceo of wells fargo so badly that the guy had to resign. but sometimes the fight is to meet a little girl and say, hello. my name is elizabeth and i m running for president because that s what girls do. in that message, if that s what girls do, this is the last woman standing. in the major candidates. tulsi gabbert is still in the polling. she is a powerful communicator and has a powerful story. she s been in the teens, basically. and to get in the 30s, she would have to grow her coalition. that s where she has struggled. if elizabeth warren is not our nominee, i hope political scientists study why. i don t know if there s too many that think a woman can t run. her performance in her debates and the organization she s built. a very strong candidate. there s a chance she s viable in california and other states. it ee s puzzling she has not do better. she has the attributes that you see in presidential candidates. let s listen to bernie sanders, tonight, at his rally, in minnesota. tonight, i want to open the door to amy s supporters, to pete s supporters. [ cheers and applause ] i know there are political differences. i also know, that virtually all of amy s support and pete s support understand. that we have to move towards a government, which believes in justice, not greed. [ cheers and applause ] david, he can pick up some of that support. you might know where bomost of is going, but not all of it. he ll pick up some. that was a welcoming message. i sent out a tweet a little while ago. there s so much conversation, that says, what happens to his young supporters. it s a very important question. bernie sanders has been careful. but some have said, this is the establishment now. i don t think they re part of the establishment. there s nobody in washington pulling the strings. african-american voters don t consider themselves part of the establishment. we need to beat donald trump. we ll need the entire party to uni unify. it will be a tough primary. it will probably go on for a while. we need people to come together, if it s sanders or biden and it comes down to a two-person race, they need support from people that are not with them right now. that s a strong message from bern bernie sanders, a welcoming message. good to hear. david plouffe, always invaluable to have your insight. thank you for joining us on this important night. really appreciate it. david plouffe gets tonight s last word. the 11th hour with brian williams, starts now. tonight, the biden campaign has the kind of unity night they ve been dreaming of. former rivals come out to support joe biden. then, the bernie crowds. massive rallies prior to what he is expecting to be a giant super tuesday result in that chase for delegates. and the president travels to one of the primary states, north carolina, to, quote, troll the democrats before he ballooned. all of it as the 11th hour gets under way on this monday night. and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 1,138 of this trump administration. that leaves exactly 246 days to go until our 2020 presidential election. and really in just a matter of hours, voters in 14 states begin the process of heading to the polls for super tuesday while at the same time, the joe biden campaign has been more or less reformed. tonight something the former vice president has craved, the support of his rivals. buttigieg, klobuchar, o rourke
invest. [ applause ] look, folks, a nation that provides a path to citizenship for 11 million who are enriching our communities every single day, an economy rewards work, not just wealth. my dad used to have an expression. joe, a job is about a lot more than a paycheck. it s about decency, about respect, about being able to look yourself in the mirror and know what s going on. it s about being able to i swear to god this is what he would say. it s about being able to look your child in the eye and say, honey, everything is going to be okay. american people aren t asking for anything other than a chance, an even chance. and they re being denied that. this is about your place in the community, heed say. it s about all our families, all our communities. look, amy and i look at everything when the there goes trump. anyway. [ laughter ] the prism, how it affects you, your family, your community, all our communities. folks, it s simple. that s why i m a democrat. that s why i got involved in the first place. this election isn t a battle for the soul of the democratic party, but it is a battle for the soul of america. and in the most perilous moment we faced in anyone s lifetime here, winning means uniting america, not sowing more division and anger. it means not only fighting as president, but a president who will heal the country. a country has to be healed. we ve got to beat donald trump and the republican party, but we but we can t become like them. we can t become like them. we ve got to heal the divisions, repair our democracies. and i am absolutely confident, not only democrats, but independents and republican voters know we have to heal this country. and once again, fight for the proposition, as corny as it sounds, that we hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men and women are created equal, endowed by their creator with certain enalienable rights. folks, that s the uniqueness of america. we re based on an idea. we ve never fully lived up to it, but we ve never before walked away from it like this president has. [ applause ] i believe with every fiber of my being what we ve done in every generation is further open the aperture for inclusion, making sure people have a shot. look, i want to recognize three people who have dedicated their careers to fighting for more perfect union. colin allard. he flipped this district, helped take back the house in 2016. [ applause ] he did what i only dreamed of doing. playing in the nfl. [ laughter ] what a hell of an athlete, great, great congressman. we need to make sure he holds that seat in november. [ applause ] and mark veasey, he s done incredible work. help lead the fight against erosion of voting rights act, against erosion of voting in this nation. half the nations half the states in this nation have put up barriers, so new jim crow all over again. and bernice johnson is a legend. [ applause ] a legend of whom i am honored to share this stage. she s a woman who knows how to get things done for the people of dallas. and she leaves nobody behind. look, the days of donald trump s divisiveness will soon be over. i guarantee you, we can build a more perfect union because the american people have now seen the alternative. folks, there s two way people get inspired. they get inspired by great leaders like lincoln and roosevelt and kennedy and obama thank you. but they also get inspired by very bad leaders. i really mean it. i really mean it. this president has sort of ripped the band aid off, exposed just how venal he has become and how he has literally, literally strangled the life out of the republican party. so, folks, we ve got a shot. this is bigger than whether a democrat wins. this is about restoring the character of america, not a joke. [ applause ] because we ve been damaged all over the world. we ve been damaged badly. his embrace of thugs and dictators, his way he treats our military and talks about them. the way he demeans people. ladies and gentlemen, and at home, he s never done anything other than other than seek division. so, folks, it s time to get back up. we re decent. we re brave. we re a resilient people. we are better than this moment. we are better than this president. and so get up. let s take back this country. we re the united states of america. and there s not a single thing we cannot do if we do it together. god bless you and may god protect our troops. folks, thank you. i ve got to wait one more minute, folks. there s one more person i want to thank, a man who electrified this state and nation. one of the most incredible runs in the united states senate we have ever seen here in the state. a man who demonstrated an enormous compassion and courage in the wake of the shooting in el paso. a man with unlimited future, a man who will be changing this nation for the better for many years to come. ladies and gentlemen, beto o rourke. [ cheers and applause ] and his wife amy. come on, beto and amy. amy, watch your step here. god love you. thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you. [ cheers and applause ] dallas! can you hear me? dallas. [ cheers and applause ] tarrant county. [ cheers and applause ] denton. colin. anybody from the rio grande valley? far west texas and el paso? lubbock, amarillo, and the panhandle? long view texarkana and east texas? on behalf of every one of the 254 counties of this great state, we welcome dr. jill biden and vice-president joe biden. [ speaking foreign language ] ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow, march 3rd, 2020, i will be casting my ballot for joe biden. [ cheers and applause ] it s the right thing to do. and let me tell you why. we need somebody who can beat donald trump. [ applause ] the man in the white house today poses an existential threat to this country, to our democracy, to free and fair elections, and we need somebody who can beat him. and in joe biden, we have that man. we have someone who, in fact, is the antithesis of donald trump. joe biden is decent. he s kind. he s caring. he s empathetic. i don t know if you saw this last week. the vice-president was at a town hall in south carolina and dr. reverend anthony thompson came up to the microphone and talked about losing his wife at mother emanuel a.m.e. in south carolina in 2015. and joe biden listened to him. in fact, with his eyes closed so he could concentrate on every single word that that man said. and then he spoke back to him and to all of us from his heart, filled with compassion and love and the power to heal, he wanted to heal that man. he wanted to heal charleston, south carolina. but as someone who lives in el paso, texas, which saw another white nationalist rampage where 22 people were killed solely based on their ethnicity, on the color of their skin, on their country of national origin, i felt joe biden healing us at a time that this country is so polarized, so deeply divided. we need somebody who can bring us together and heal us. we need somebody who can reestablish the moral authority of the united states. we need somebody who will fight for democracy here and abroad because democracy is under attack here and abroad. we need joe biden. [ cheers and applause ] and, mr. vice-president, i have traveled to each one of the 254 counties of texas. [ cheers and applause ] i know this state. and i ve got to tell you, the fact that you take the time to listen to us, to be here, to understand our concerns as well as our aspirations means the world to us. this is a state that is dead last in the united states when it comes to the number of insured, which means that we have people dying of diabetes. the largest mental health care facility in the state is the county jail system in the state. those with schizophrenia and bipolar disorder and clinical depression are getting arrested on purpose to get the care that they cannot find otherwise. we know you are going to lead us to make sure there is health care for each and every single one of us, every man, every child, and every woman. [ applause ] mr. vice-president, you also know that whether it was sutherland springs or santa fe high school or el paso, texas, at that walmart this last august, or midland odessa in the same year. we understand the devastating to of gun violence in america and in this state, and we need someone who is going to make sure whether there is a mass shooting in a walmart or in our school or the shootings that far too often take those in our communities of color one or two at a time who don t even make the headlines or the front page or the news. we don t even know their names. you re going to stand up for each and every one of us and end gun violence in america with universal background checks, extreme risk protection orders and an end to the selling of weapons of war in our communities. keep that stuff on the battle field. don t bring it into our homes. [ applause ] and, mr. vice-president, this energy-rich state that has fueled the growth of america also wants to be the state that, with your leadership, leads the charge to confront climate change before it is too late. we re counting on you. [ applause ] go ahead. [ speaking foreign language ] in 2018, all of us, a lot of good people here on this stage, out there, throughout the state, ran the greatest grassroots campaign texas had ever seen. [ applause ] we won more votes than any democrat had in texas history, young voter turnout up 500% in early voting. [ cheers and applause ] and these were the gains. 12 new members of the statehouse, all democrats replacing republicans. two new members of congress, including the all-time great colin allred right here in this community. 17 african-american women elected to judicial positions in harris county. now is the time to finish the job. make sure we win the nine seats we lack to take control of the statehouse for the first time in 20 years. and the racist gerrymandering in texas, and move forward on the issues we care most about, you, mr. vice-president, as the top of the ticket, can help us do that. so i want to let you all know, i love you, too, and we all love joe, and i am going to treat joe and jill right. we re going to take them to a world class meal tonight. there is a whataburger less than half a mile from here. [ cheers and applause ] but first, make this one promise. make this one promise. you [ laughter ] i m getting whataburger orders shouted from behind me, okay. you, your family, your friends, your neighbors, your classmates, your colleagues, every single one of us is going to get after it and vote tomorrow. are you with me? [ cheers and applause ] are you with joe? [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, [ speaking foreign language ] joe biden. let s do it for joe! i want to make something clear. i m going to guarantee you this is not my last year seeing this guy. you re going to take care of the gun problem with me. you re going to be the one who leads this effort. i m counting on you. i m counting on you. we need you badly. the state needs you. the country needs you. you re the best. thank you, thank you, thank you. let s bring everybody. come on up here, guys. let s get the whole team. watch out you don t fall off the stage here. great to see you, man. come on up. that is the conclusion of joe biden s big rally tonight in dallas, texas, with some surprises, including beto o rourke as the last endorser of the day, a day filled with dramatic endorsements of the biden campaign. joining our discussion now, david plough, the former campaign manager and white house senior advisor for president barack obama. he is the author of the new book, a citizen s guide to beating donald trump. john heilman,er msnbc and nbc, cohost of the circus, editor the recount. the co-founder of the women s political group super majority, she recently interviewed joe biden and all of the democratic presidential candidates. and, cecile, we re starting with you because your mother ann richards was the last democratic governor of the state of texas. a lot has changed since she left office in 1995. i want to get your reaction to what happened for joe biden on that stage tonight in dallas. well, i think it s kind of an example of what we re beginning to see. all of us texans who have been waiting for change to happen are seeing it happen now. and i think this isn t a fluke. this is ten years of long hard work. i think you re seeing it fueled by women in the state of texas. you re seeing it by young people, by people of color. look at that stage tonight. and it s a really exciting moment. for all of us from texas, to think texas may be in play is amazing. i know in the last week there have been i think four polls that have shown the president, the current president under 50%. i think this is a time where the energy and expansion of the electorate in the state of texas could make the big difference. david plough, you come to us from the invaluable perspective of a successful presidential campaign manager for a democrat. there aren t many of those in this country. what do you see today happening in this campaign? and i mean taking the totality of it from the joe biden endorsements to what we re seeing in the sanders campaign, the strengths that he has, elizabeth warren still fighting. she s going to speak later tonight in east los angeles. well, super tuesday is set up really well for bernie sanders. if you re joe biden, you need to survive it. you need to make sure the bernie sanders yield coming out of tomorrow isn t so large you can t catch up. joe biden has some good states later in march. georgia, florida, mississippi. so i think that sanders is obviously huge crowds. they ve been spending money in the super tuesday states. they ve got great organization. it s been an amazing $40 for joe biden winning with a margin no one saw coming to these endorsements to field clearing. he still has to survive tomorrow. his back is against the wall as it relates to super tuesday. and again, we have to see how many delegates and votes elizabeth warren and mike bloomberg gets. it still looks like the contours of heading toward a two-person race in terms of who has the ability to get the large amount of delegates you need either to have a majority or 1500, 1600 so you re in the conversation from a delegate standpoint. but, you know, the best 48 hours of political joe biden s political life. but it comes up against the reality of tomorrow, a bunch of states where he s still scrambling to get viability in states like minnesota, massachusetts and california. i think the last 48 hours help in that regard. texas and california, a lot of people already voted. joe biden, if he s going to do as well as he needs to tomorrow, he s going to have to overperform on election day. john heilman, endorsements normally are kind of easy to shrug off when you re covering a campaign. they normally don t mean very much. but we saw jim clyburn s endorsement in south carolina. certainly seemed like it meant a lot. it super charged the biden campaign there. and this day of endorsements has a similar feel. i mean, it took a bunch of them to equal one jim clyburn endorsement. but he sure got a bunch. today. he did, lawrence. there s a question, couple questions. one of which is there s to doubt these people dropping out is of material impact on the delegate picture which david plough and others have taught me over the years is the thing i have to focus on, the thing we all have to focus on. that is the accumulation of delegates. people like amy klobuchar dropping out of the race, people like pete buttiegieg dropping out of the race, people who would not likely have been viable in many of the 14 states that vote on tuesday, people whose voters are more likely to end up in joe biden s column than end up in bernie sanders s column, those drop outs are enormously helpful. does pete buttiegieg s endorsement matter on tuesday? i don t think so much. it doesn t hurt. and certainly the impression that the party, the non-sanders wing of the party is rallying around biden creates a powerful sense of moment. maybe it all adds up to one jim clyburn. it also has as a downside, lawrence, i think the reality is that bernie sanders feeds off of the sense that the establishment is out to get him. the sense that the establishment is aligning its forces to try to keep him from his fate, keep him from what he believes is his just dessert and what he s going to earn. for a lot of sanders voters, the sight of the establishment in their mind colluding, conspiring, that will gin them up. bernie sanders will get some mileage out of this as much as joe biden gets mileage out of it, bernie sanders will get mileage out of it on tuesday saying they are trying to stop me. we must not let them. cecile, i m sure you ve been getting calls from texas voters similar to conversations i ve been having with california voters, know a lot of california voters in california this week covering the campaign. it s been a kind of desperate question about what do i do now, especially after some of the candidates started to drop out, even starting with yang because they had become attached to some candidates. when i hear pete buttiegieg tonight, earlier tonight as he did with joe biden in texas get up and say, this is why he s voting for joe biden, i know, i know that that is specific guidance to some california voters who i know are going to vote tomorrow, who were going to vote for pete buttiegieg until today. and or last night when he dropped out. and when they hear that, i m just sure there s a conversion of votes at some level to biden. sure. but i think what john said is true. one thing everyone is looking at a lot of votes have already been banked. this late-breaking change is something you can t overestimate. one thing i would like to continue to remind people, the vast majority of voters are women at this point. so i think 56% of the early vote in texas have been women and that s pretty much been consistent across all the early states. what i m hearing from women is they just want to win. i think more than any other voters in this country, they re very practical. and right now i do think joe biden has had a very good 48 hours. they are looking for someone who can go up against donald trump and win. and i think that s going to dictate their votes tomorrow more than anything else. we have video of pete buttiegieg endorsing joe biden earlier tonight. joe biden s response to that. we have been shuffling the cards here to cover this event live in dallas. as soon as we have that, we re going to be showing that because it was a very powerful moment. david plough, what do you make of the value and the transferability of what s left in leaving out the early vote that s already gone, the transferability of a vote when pete buttiegieg stands up as he did today and say, this is why i m voting for joe biden. when amy klobuchar tells people specifically, a instruction, a request in minnesota and elsewhere, you are going to vote for me. please vote for joe biden. they are trying to get a direct transfer of votes tomorrow. yaef. obviously the folks who were planning to vote for them are not all going to go to joe biden, but i think both of them, i thought as endorsements go, gave incredibly strong statements of why they were supporting joe biden. you didn t get the sense of, our race didn t work out well. biden is the person left who is closest to me. it s something i have to do. i thought they were very strong endorsements. let me give you a personal example of some of the organizational hurdles biden is up against tomorrow. i live in california. i ve gotten texts from local volunteers from the sanders campaign, from the warren campaign and the bloomberg campaign. i don t know if that was a volunteer for biden, but living off momentum and not organization and money. as he gets deeper into march and april, if you re the biden campaign, you hope you can put together the advertising and support you need. if he dodges a bullet tomorrow from a delegate standpoint, i think he s positioned he well. i agree with you, lawrence, there s a lot of people who even if they got their ballot in the mail in california, they held onto it because they wanted to see what happened in south carolina. biden is closing as well as he could. for him it s not about winning the state in all likelihood. getting over 15% statewide to be viable. in this case the biden campaign may be okay with warren and bloomberg being viable, too, to keep down sanders delegate haul which a week ago looked like it could be enormous. bernie sanders is still going to do incredibly well tomorrow both in california and across those states and american samoa. but it may be biden may have the ability to keep that within his sight. but, john heilman, isn t mike bloomberg now in a position to be just taking down joe biden s delegate count? i think it depends state by state, lawrence. the reality as david said, there are places where mike bloomberg clears viability, he could take away some votes from joe biden. no question about that. in a state where bloomberg is viable and sanders is not, he may drive down the delegate accumulation in that state. who knows in the hypothetical if bloomberg was out what that would do to biden. the nightmare scenario for biden is where bloomberg is below viability where he could be sitting at 12, 13, 14%, therefore not achieving viability, therefore not gaining any delegates, not hurting bernie sanders in any way, but taking votes away that would have likely gone straight to joe biden. that s the worst case scenario. the scenario the biden campaign worries about. they have been arguing with him the last couple days he would do the party a favor if he wants to keep bernie sanders from being the nominee, the thing would be for him to drop out yesterday. the mayor s point much view is, i m sorry, i put nearly half a billion dollars in this race. you re not going to get me to drop out before a person in a single state where my name is on the ballot. some people can understand on a human level. thank you all for starting us off on this very important night, possibly the most important night prior to the most important day of the campaign yet. david plough s new book is a citizen s guide to beating donald trump. up next, my interview with joe biden. ing actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel. cut. liberty mu. line? cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. cut. liberty 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ten years ago, then vice-president joe biden was the very first guest on the very first edition of this show on this network. tonight is his second appearance on this program and his first appearance as a candidate for president of the united states. we are joined now by former vice-president and current democratic presidential candidate joe biden. thank you very much for joining us. we really appreciate it. i want to go straight to what i think is the most important thing on voters minds right now, which is secondary to the election. and that is the coronavirus, a crisis that is sweeping the world and it is, as we can see, becoming an increasing problem every day in this country, now including new york. it s from new york to california. i want to know, if you were in the white house today, what would you be doing? i know it s very hard at this distance to assess exactly what this white house is doing, but what would president biden s workday be today on the coronavirus? well, look, lawrence, you know as well as i do the whole question on crises is how much credibility a president has. the president speaks no matter who the president is, speaks for the nation. and gives great concern to and/or brings some solace to the rest of the world. and this president has i m not this is not a political comment, this is a literal comment. he has no credibility on this issue, on this issue. we put together, as you know, after the ebola crisis, we put together an office in the white house next to the president to deal with pandemic disease. we increased the money for cdc. we worked on a whole range of things. all the way back in january, the president was told that this was going to be moving forward. we did nothing to deal with even testing kits. they re now trying to get testing kits out to determine how to respond. so, the greatest worry i have is people look to a president and they re looking to a voice of authority and they cannot trust this voice. this is a guy up until a couple days ago said this was basically a democratic plot or whatever however he phrased it. so what i would be doing, number one, i would not have done the things he did. and right now, if all of a sudden i got dropped in and i was president, i would be ramping up considerably, considerably the help we give to states for specific hospitals in terms of the people who are going to the hospitals be prepared to have the intake of patients that come along. i would significantly ramp up, whatever it took. the number of testing kits that are available to make sure we know what the story is. i was told by someone whose son was coming back on a plane from another country. they had to determine what seat he was in. heed be tested before he d be tested before he got off the plane and so on. what are we doing here? it s not a moment to panic, but to reassure. the bottom line for me, lawrence, is let the scientists speak. the president and vice-president can coordinate if they can, but let the scientists speak. and the new york times is reporting today that a florida man who returned from china felt sick, went and got tested, and was great news was he tested negative. but he now has a bill for $3,270 for doing the responsible thing, doing exactly what you and everyone, every public health official is telling him to do. go get tested if you feel sick when you come back from china. what could you do about that, that $3,270 bill he has? under obamacare, we said all this testing was free, free. this president wiped that out. we anticipated this because of our work on the ebola crisis. ron klain headed that up. used to be my chief of staff. we anticipated that. said free, all vaccines, all testing is free. the idea that we re going to charge people to do the right thing, get themselves tested and be responsible is bizarre. and he is in court now, in court to wipe out obamacare. by administrative rule, he has decimated it. this is what we talk about needing action immediately, lawrence. by the way, that s being reported, how many people are going to go in and get tested? it s free, should be free. f-r-e-e. bernie sanders says this is yet another case for medicare for all. if there was a universal 100% coverage medicare for all, that anyone would know confidently that they could get off an airplane, feel sick, whatever it is, and go straight in and get tested and they would not be hit with one of these bills. they know that under obamacare. they know that under obamacare additional care option i provide. you don t need medicare to be tested for this. you can dictate that be the case. under my proposal, you would, in fact, under obamacare you would have it for free. by the way, if you wait for bernie to be tested, you re talking about four years to get it passed, if you get it passed and it s not going to pass in this democratic congress. number two, after that occurs, you re talking about taking time to phase in i forget, depending who you talk to, x number of years on top. look, this is about now, right now. if i m elected president of the united states, i can ghetto bama care increased by public option and making sure no hidden bills, et cetera, reducing drug prices, it s all laid out there. i ve laid out exactly how to pay for it and how i get it done and where the pay for it comes from. he s talking about a $35 trillion program. i respect the fact that he wants to do it, but level with the american people. he said in the last debate it s going to increase the tax on employers withholding, but he didn t tell you the other half of that tax is you. it s going to double what you re being withheld on your social security tax. that only gets you part of the way. look, people need hope, lawrence. you know it better than i do. you know it better than i do. they need to know that what needs to be done can happen and get done quickly. i can ghetet obamacare amended, reducing drug price option passed and i can get it done immediately. obamacare is currently providing coverage for about 20 million people, maybe more, but there is still a solid 28 million people who do not have any health insurance at all. and what could you do to close that gap? medicare for all closes it very clearly. that is a solution for 100% coverage. what is your way of getting to 100% coverage for those 28 million people? i can tell you how you do it. one of the reasons that s the case, in many states the republican governs are not taking advantage of what obamacare called for. 100% coverage of people who qualify for medicaid and they d be able to have it all taken care of. i just came out of a state where there s 200,000 people where the governor wouldn t let it happen. to obamacare, i add a public option of medicare for those who want it. so they can be automatically enrolled, automatically enrolled in medicare. automatically enrolled if they can t afford it. and if they like it and they don t like what they have now and they can afford it, they can buy into the plan. they can buy in. they can buy into medicare for all. it s their choice. but it doesn t do what bernie does. he wipes out 145,000 health care plans that a lot of labor unions have given up salaries for that are very robust plans and says they re gone. you cannot have any private insurance. and so, look, lawrence presumptive of me to say this. i know you, i watched you, you know moynihan. what did pat always talk about? what can get done. what are you going to do. and tell me how you re going to do it and tell me why you think you can get it done. it s a rhetorical question. i don t expect you to answer. do you think there is any possibility of passing a $35 trillion plan without telling anybody who is going to pay for it? doubling the cost, actually ten times the cost of what i m talking about. 3 to 5 billion a year that is going to require doubling the federal budget? look, i think people are looking for some authenticity, some honesty. i admire bernie s desire here. but what i m really disappointed in, the failure to tell the american people how you can get it done. rhetorical question. do you think it will pass through a democratic house of representatives? or if we re able to elect, which i think is critical, a democratic senate this time around? not just the presidency, but a democratic senate. do you think it passes? come on, be honest with the american people. pete buttiegieg dropped out. we now have reporting that you and pete buttiegieg had a conversation. what i called to tell pete, this is a caliber candidate. this is a guy who is brilliant. he s motivated by the right purposes. this guy is the guy who we have very much in common. and i called him to urge him and really plead with him, he has to stay involved. you know, we talk about passing the torch. we re going to have to, we have to build up the bench. there are some really qualified people. i want him, if i get the nomination, i m going to come to him and ask him to join me. he must stay engaged. he has great capacity. i think the only thing missing with people like pete and others, they just haven t had enough of a national profile to demonstrate to people that they know who they are and the depth of who they are. you know, it goes everywhere from him to mitch landu and other people of significant capability. they have to stay in the game. they ve got to get in the game. i wasn t being presumptuous saying i d be the nominee. if i am the nominee, i said i d ask him to participate. when you say join you, did you mean join you as the vice-presidential ticket as the nominee? no, join me, there s a whole range of positions he can fill if he decided he wanted to come to washington to help change the circumstances. cabinet positions, white house positions. this is a really competent capable man. we ll have more of my interview with joe biden from earlier today after this break. i ask him about his telephone conversation with president barack obama after he won the south 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joe biden conducted earlier today. when you won south carolina, president obama called. you had a conversation with the president and that same question, was there a discussion of endorsement? did you ask for one, did he offer one, did you discuss it as something that would happen later down the line? lawrence, the reason why historians are saying the two closest president and vice-president have ever been are joe biden and barack obama because i never discuss our conversations. and i m not going to start now. was that the first call during the campaign or has he been calling? look, i have spoken with the president, not infrequently. he s a friend. i asked him at the beginning and i know none of you believed it. i asked him not to endorse me because the first thing that happened, lawrence, you ll know this better than anybody, is when i announced it was owe biden feels entitled, he was the former vice-president. biden is running because he s running on obama s coat tails. i didn t think it would be helpful to me if the president came out and endorsed me at the front of this. it would have given the notion of entitlement and pulled the president in a way that wasn t necessary. and i really thought and i still believe i ve got to earn this on my own. i am absolutely confident if i m the nominee, the president of the united states, former president of barack obama who i think was a greatnominee, forme barack obama, who i think was a great president. have you noticed in their ads, everybody all of a sudden is loving barack obama, when they were critical of him, like bernie saying he should be primaried in 2016 and mike is a good guy, bloomberg, but saying that health was a disaster. anyway, i just think that it s a matter of me being able to go out and win it on the merits. i do say, and i m not joking. i think we need a democrat as the nominee, and i mean it literally. a democrat. and i am a democrat. you ask what kind of democrat? i m an obama/biden democrat. we ve been very progressive. we are just getting started. we saved this economy. we grew it in a way that is larger than this president, than trump has grown it in three years, and we were working on building up the middle class when things fell apart. we lost. and so it s about building on, not going back to. it s about building on and moving that next step to bring everybody along. and so that s that s what i mean. we need a democrat who is able to put together the coalitions that we put together. you know, working class, high school educated white americans, african-americans, latinos, suburban women. and so across the board. and i think that we got that off the ground. for example, in you know, we talk about how, you know, bernie is turning out all the vote. bernie is a great guy. but let me tell you if you take a look at south carolina, there were i think 158,000, something like that, well over 100,000 votes that hadn t been cast even when barack ran in 2008. and they turned out, and i got those votes, the vast majority of them. i won every single solitary county. what s starting to happen is we re beginning to focus on the choices here. you can in fact nominate a guy who wants a revolution or a guy who, in fact, says we re going to have results, significant progressive results. let me go to the bloomberg question because he entered the race on the assumption that he could basically grab your support. as he entered the race with the saturation advertising, his numbers went up. yours went down. it looked like almost a direct transfer from biden support to bloomberg support. what would you say to super tuesday voters throughout the country? and i ve heard a lot of this in california, voters who are trying to decide actually between joe biden and mike bloomberg. elect a democrat. elect a democrat. mike s a good guy, but mike is not a democrat. that was my interview with presidential candidate joe biden. we recorded that earlier today. we are awaiting a rally in monterey park, california. that is east los angeles. that s the elizabeth warren rally. it was actually scheduled to start about 20 minutes ago, so they re behind schedule over there, which is normal for campaign rallies like this. but that s where the elizabeth warren rally is tonight, in california. bernie sanders was in minnesota, and you saw joe biden earlier in this hour in texas. we are joined now by david plouffe. he s back with us. he is the successful campaign manager for barack obama s campaign for the white house in 2008. and, david, there are so few of you actual successful democratic presidential campaign managers. sadly. you could all fit together in a car, and not a big one. i want to get your reaction to where the elizabeth warren campaign stands tonight. it s the other campaign that s viable in california. it s viable obviously in massachusetts and possibly other places. she s got now a real new surge of funding, about $29 million. where does she go from here? well, first of all, lawrence, i m pretty confident we re going to add another successful democratic campaign manager. the car can get a little bigger. elizabeth warren, the think the real question for her is, you know, her campaign put out a memo, so they were pretty clear suggesting that their route wasn t to win the most delegates but to win enough to be part of the conversation at the convention. i think she s going to get some delegates tomorrow. she s obviously been a really strong performer and debater, had a great fund-raising month. but i find it hard to believe that when we get to the convention, let s say you do have sanders and biden having the first and second most number of delegates, that somehow on a fourth or fifth ballot you re going to decide that the person who came in third or fourth is going to get the nomination. i just don t see that route. you know, if she performs exceedingly well tomorrow, gets more delegates than biden, maybe more delegates than bloomberg, and then builds on that next week, maybe she gets more into the delegate conversation. but i think convention strategies generally are not destined to succeed, and so i think she ll probably have to see where she is coming out of tomorrow. but a strategy that says i m going to roll into the convention with 400 or 500 delegates and somehow be the nominee, i don t see that. maybe she just wants influence. that s a different question. but if you re trying to be the nominee, i think it s going to be the people who roll into milwaukee, if we don t have a nominee prior to the convention, who s got the first or second most amount of delegates. we ve been hearing a lot from joe biden in this hour. i had that prerecorded interview with him, and then his event went over into this hour. i want to hear from elizabeth warren also, and we have this from an interview that cecile richards did. she interviewed all the presidential candidates, and this exchange with elizabeth warren is one of the more personal elements cecile managed to get into, the personal reasons that these candidates are in this race. let s listen to this. i always thought i would do this as a teacher, but then the fight comes to your door, and you can back away, or you can jump all the way in. and that s what happened to me. sometimes the fight is getting more funding for child care. sometimes the fight is to fry a ceo of wells fargo so badly that the guy had to resign. sometimes the fight is to meet a little girl and say, hello. my name is elizabeth, and i m running for president, because that s what girls do. and, david, in that message, that s what girls do, this is the last woman standing now in the major candidates. tulsi gabbard still down at the bottom of the polling. but this is the last woman standing with any viability in any state tomorrow. right. she s such a powerful communicator. she s got such a powerful story. i think one of her barriers is she s been in the teens basically, and to get into the 30s, 35, 37, she d really have to grow her coalition, particularly in the african-american community. i think that s where, you know, she has struggled. but, listen, if elizabeth warren is not our nominee, i hope that political scientists and folks a lot smarter than me really study why because i don t know if it s because hillary clinton lost and there s too many voters concerned that a woman can t run. but by every conventional measure, her performance on debates, her performance in interviews, her personal story, the type of organization she s built, you know a very strong candidate. but, again, she s gotten, you know, 15, 16, 17 in some states. we ll see how she does tomorrow. there s a chance she s viable in california and quite a few other states. so she ll get some delegates but it is puzzling to me, i must confess, why she s not done better because she has so many of the strengths and attributes that you see in successful presidential candidates. let s listen to bernie sanders tonight at his rally in minnesota. tonight i want to open the door the amy s supporters, to pete s supporters. i know that there are political differences, but i also know that virtually all of amy s support and pete s support understand that we have got to move toward a government which believes in justice, not greed. and, david, he can pick up some of that support. you never know once the candidate drops out where all of that support s going. you might know where most of it s going, but not all of it. oh, he ll pick up some, you know, for sure. i thought that was a great measure, a very welcoming message. i actually sent out a tweet on this a little while ago. i think there s so much conversation understandably that said if bernie sanders isn t the nominee, what happens to his passionate supporters, his young supporters. it s a very good question. bernie sanders himself has been careful and some around his campaigns has said, hey, this is the establishment now ganging up on sanders. there isn t an establishment. there s nobody in washington pulling these strings. african-american voters i don t think consider themselves part of the establishment or they re being told what to do. so i think we re going to need to beat donald trump. we re going to need the entire party to unify. this is going to be a tough primary. it s probably going to go on for a while. but we have to have people come together and understand whether you re sanders or biden, if it does go down to a two-person race, they re also going to need to get support from people who aren t with them right now to become the nominee. so politics is always about addition, not subtraction. but i thought that was a really strong message from bernie sanders, a very welcoming message, and it was great to hear. david plouffe, always invaluable to have your insight into presidential campaigning. thank you very much for joining us on this important night. really appreciate it. david plouffe gets tonight s last word. the 11th hour with brian williams starts now. tonight the biden campaign has the kind of unity night they ve been dreaming of as former rivals come out to praise and endorse joe biden coming off his breakout win of every single county in south carolina. then there are the bernie crowds. massive rallies prior to what he is expecting to be a giant super tuesday result in that chase for delegates. plus the president travels to one of tomorrow s primary states, north carolina, to quote troll the democrats before the vote. and he flies back home to an administration in the midst of crisis management as the number of coronavirus cases has ballooned. all of it as the 11th hour gets under way on this monday night. and good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. day 1,138 of this trump
with the xfinity sports zone, everybody wins. now that s simple, easy, awesome. say xfinity sports zone into your voice remote today. a special edition of cnn tonight. i m don lemon coming to you live from washington, d.c. we have been covering live from dallas. really the former vice president having a moment in dallas. he s been getting endorsements from former rivals in the campaign. amy klobuchar and pete buttigieg endorsing him this evening and he s still speaking on stage. but he still has one more trick up his sleeve and we re going to discuss and talk about that. but until that happens i want to get to my folks here who are in the studio joining me now we have the political director. we have nia here as well. we have david axelrod. and what s happening. thank you all for joining. we have been watching. this is a moment for the vice president. amy klobuchar came on with tremendous energy endorsing her former rival. working the crowd up. it has been a long day for the former vice president joe biden. what does this moment mean for him? can this catapult him into a good really a good showing tomorrow? it s been a long day. but a good day. he s had bad days on the campaign. he s had several good days. and the fact that he had pete buttigieg at his side a few hours ago. endorsing him. now amy klobuchar. another endorsement coming here. these are all momentum builders. he needs to get steam going into super-tuesday. he doesn t have advertising to speak of around the country. they re getting in late. he s coming from behind in many places. hoping to take advantage of the voters who will vote for the candidates. it sends a signal that he is the guy to get behind. he is a winner here. if you are in that center left lane he s the person to consolidate behind. this is important because his next big mission among consolidations is get the guy with $60 billion. is this a big enough moment to out shadow bloomberg? we ll see. let s listen in. we have never fully lived up to it. we have never before walked away from it like this president has. i believe with every fiber in my being, what we have done in every generation is further open the appture for conclusion. making sure people have a shot. look, i want to recognize three people who have dedicated their careers to fighting for more perfect union. he flipped this district helped take back the house in 2016. he did what i only dream of doing. playing in the nfl. what a hell of an athlete, great congressman. we need to make sure he holds that seat in november. and mark, god love him. incredible work. to help lead the fight against the erosion of voting rights act, against erosion of voting in this nation. half the states in this nation have put up barriers. it s a new jim crow all over again. johnson is a legend. i m honored to share the stage. she s a woman who gets things done for the people of dallas and leaves nobody behind. look, the days of donald trump divisiveness will soon be over. i guarantee you we can build a more perfect union because the american people have now seen the alternative. folks, there s two ways people get inspired. they get inspired by great leaders like lincoln and roosevelt and kennedy and obama. well, thank you but they also get inspired by very bad leaders. no, i really mean it. i really mean it. this president has sort of ripped the band-aid off. exposed how venal he s become and literally strangled the life out of the republican party. so, folks, we ve got a shot. this is bigger than whether a democrat wins. this is about restoring the character of america. not a joke. because we have been damaged all over the world. we have been damaged badly. his embrace of thugs and dictators. the way he treats our military and talks about them. the way he demeans people. ladies and gentlemen at home, he s never done anything other than seek division. so, folks, it s time to get back up! we re decent, we re brave, we re resilient people. we can believe again. we re better than this moment we re better than this president and so get up. let s take back this country. we re the united states of america and there s not a single thing we cannot do if we do it together. god bless you all and may god protect our troops. folks, thank you. i ve got to wait one more minute, folks. there s one more person i want to thank. a man who electrified this state and nation, one of the most incredible runs in the united states senate we ve ever seen in this state. a man who demonstrated enormous courage and passion in the wake of the shooting in el paso, a man with an unlimited future, a man who will changing this nation for the better for many years to come. ladies and gentlemen, beto o rourke! and his wife amy. come on, beto and amy. amy, watch your step here. god love you, thank you. thank you, thank you, thank you. mr. vice president. dallas! dallas, tarin county, dentin, collen, anybody from the rio grande valley? far west texas and el paso. the panhandle. long view. and east texas. on behalf of everyone of the 254 counties of this great state, we welcome dr. jill biden and vice president joe biden. [ speaking foreign language ] ladies and gentlemen, tomorrow, march 3, 2020, i will be casting me ballot for joe biden. it s the right thing to do. let me tell you why. we need somebody who can beat donald trump. the man in the white house today poses an existential threat to this country. to democracy. to free and fair elections. and we need somebody who can beat him and in joe biden we have that man. we have someone who is the antithesis of donald trump. joe biden is decent, he s kind, he s caring, he s empathetic. i don t know if you saw this last week, the vice president was at a town hall in south carolina. and dr. reverend thompson came up to the microphone and talked about losing his wife. in south carolina in 2015. and joe biden listened to him with his eyes closed so he could concentrate on every single word that that man said. and then he spoke back to him and to all of us from his heart. filled with compassion and love and the power to heal. he wanted to heal that man. he wanted to heal charleston, south carolina. as someone who lives in texas, which saw another white nationalist rampage, where 22 people were killed solely based on their ethnicity. on the color of their skin, on the country of national origin. i felt joe biden healing us. at a time that this country is so polarized and deeply divided we need somebody who can bring us together and heal us. we need somebody who can reestablish the moral authority of the united states. we need somebody who will fight for democracy here and abroad because democracy is under attack here and abroad. we need joe biden. a surprise endorsement from former congressman beto o rourke. a surprise appearance as well. and also an endorsement coming from former mayor south bend, indiana, and presidential candidate pete buttigieg and also from senator amy klobuchar. we still have to hear from two presidential candidates tonight. we re going to hear from the mike bloomberg and also hear from senator elizabeth warren. she s live coming up right after the break. overwhelming scents? try febreze one; it eliminates odors with no heavy perfumes, so you can feel good about using it in your home. for a light, natural-smelling freshness, try febreze one. having dry skin is a struggle. turns out, my body wash was the problem. but with olay ultra moisture body wash, my skin went from dry and dull to visibly healthy in just 14 days. better skin from a body wash? you better believe it. with olay body. ahoy! gotcha! nooooo. noooooo. quick, the quicker picker upper! bounty picks up messes quicker and is 2x more absorbent. bounty, the quicker picker upper. when you take align, you have the support of a probiotic and the gastroenterologists who developed it. align naturally helps to soothe your occasional digestive upsets 24/7. so where you go the pro goes. go with align, the pros in digestive health. billions of problems. morning breath? garlic breath? stinky breath? there s a therabreath for you. therabreath fresh breath oral rinse instantly fights all types of bad breath and works for 24 hours. so you can. breathe easy. there s therabreath at walmart. whello.! on march 13th. what is happening? what is all of this? move! everybody get out of here! hunting season begins. why d they kidnap bunch of normal folk like us? at the manor. put in him in the back with the rest. there s no escape. you have no idea what you re up against. 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ten years ago i was still a classroom teacher. i m not one of the people who looked in the mirror when i was 14 and say you re going to be president of the united states. i looked in the mirror and said i ll be a public schoolteacher and from there i ultimately became a college professor and spent my life fighting for hardworking families, working through why it was that so many people who work so hard just keep falling further and further behind. and a big part of is this there s a government that s not on their side. it s a government on the side of billionaires and giant corporations. so a decade ago that s the fight i was still in. i was in the fight in the middle of the financial crisis. and then when i couldn t stay and run the cfpb because the republicans wouldn t let me, i came back to massachusetts. and people said to me you should run for this senate seat against this very popular incumbent republican. i said i don t know hew to do this. i know how to fight but that s all i know how to do. i know how to fight for families. and the people of massachusetts said get in here and we ll help you out, and they did. they setup offices, they went out and knocked on doors. i started that race 17 points and i ended up beating this very popular incumbent republican by 7.5 points. so more than anything else i say to the people of massachusetts i m deeply grateful to you for putting me in this light and i hope i make you proud every day in it because i m out there fighting for your family and millions of families across this country. they need someone to lift up their voice and someone to be effective on their behalf. listen, you have said that you and senator sanders are friends, but you are now drawing sharp contrasts between you and senator sanders. you re saying, quote, i get real stuff done. i don t want to be president just to yell at people. are you suggesting senator sanders wouldn t be an effective president? look, i m here to make the case i ll i think i would be the best president for our country. i had warned and warned about the financial and there were a lot of progressives who wanted to rein in wall street and i was the one who got in there. i tooken wall street. i took on the big banks. they were spending at one point more than a million dollars a day to fight against us. i helped build the coalition both on the inside and the outside. and in 2010 president obama was able to sign that agency into law. and that is a government agency that has now forced the banks to return more than $12 billion directly to people they cheated. this is the proof we can make government work for the people. but it takes a lot of hard work to get this kind of progressive agenda passed. and i ve got a track record for that. if you look at the all the people who have dropped out and all the people who are endorsing other folks you can see that this this election is narrowing. you say that your campaign is built for the long haul and that you re going to take this fight all the way to the convention. so how many states do you need to win tomorrow to continue to do that? so, look, i said when i got into this race i wasn t going to do polls and i wasn t going to do predictions, but i will tell you this. this is grass roots operation from all across this country. one of the consequences of making the decision early on that i wasn t going to spend 70% of my time out raising money from billionaires and corporate executives and lobbyists is that i had a lot of time to go to a lot of places. so i ve been to 30 states and puerto rico. we now are setup in every one of the super tuesday states. we have volunteers volunteered and helped out on our campaign. during the month of february we had we raised $29 million from people who just said i m in this fight with you. and we raised it in $5 and $25 contributions. by the way, i should say if you think that s the right way to run a campaign i hope anybody watching this will go to elizabethwarren.com and pitch in that $25 or $5. because for me this is about both beating trump and about delivering real change in january 2021. you know, we can t march everybody up this hill and not actually come away with some big important changes. and there s a lot of hard work in that. that s why i ve laid out all these plans in such detail and shown how we can pay for it, how we can build alliances, how we can actually get it done. i m in this fight to win and to make real change. let s move on from the race and talk about the coronavirus crisis. and the numbers are updated but as we re speaking six americans for died from the virus. if you were president what actions would you take to contain the virus? actually, i ve been putting out plans about this for a while now and key plans right now is first of all we need to make testing for the virus free and as soon as we get a vaccine we need to garnty everyone it will also be available free. we need to set aside federal money so anyone who is quarantined actually still gets paid for work. and for reason for that is that we want to make sure that everybody gets tested, gets vaccines, stays home if they re sick because that s going to help make all of us safer. we need to be supporting all our public infrastructure but we need to be taking concrete steps right now. the second part we need to acknowledge about this virus it has terrible public health implications, but it also has economic implications. the fact that supply lines are now being disrupted say from china where manufacturers in the united states can t get parts, can t get materials to make certain drugs, this is going to have effects in the u.s. that s going to echo over to europe and back again. people could be laid off. we could see a lot of economic dislocation. so i think this is the time that we put the money aside for a stimulus. we reassure the markets the money is going to be there, and we call on the fed to open the window for lending to corporations, to businesses that suffer disruptions during the virus if they will agree not to lay people off. this is you ve got to act now because this thing is gaining steam. look, we should have acted weeks ago, months ago on this, but this thing is gaining steam and we need to get ahead of it both on the public health front and on the economic front. that s what leadership is about. and that s what being governed by science is about, about good planning. instead of a president who just seems to be engaged in magical thinking you just said economic dislocation, but you have said that you were worried that the it might cause an economic crisis. are you worried that people will lose their jobs? yes, y very worrii am very this. look, our economy already is showing real cracks. i was talking about this 6, 8 months ago. we were seeing small business lending defaults go up, a lot of problems within the economy itself. and i said at the time a few minor shocks could cause the economy to start to break apart or one major shock. well, the coronavirus looks like it is going to be the major shock. so who do you do to prevent job loss? well, part of what we can do is what i just said. you do this by doing stimulus, so there s other business going on in the united states. you put more money into circulation. and the other part is to do what we did during the 2008 crisis when the fed very quietly opened the lending window so that at very low interest rates banks could borrow money in order to keep money in circulation and to support themselves. we need to do that for businesses that are counting on those supply chains, and those supply chains are now badly disrupted and they can t work. we don t want to see those businesses suddenly contracting and laying people off. we have economic tools. we don t have as many as we should have because the trump administration has already lowered interest rates, has already done a big, big tax cut and that s kind of backed us into the wall but we need to use the economic tools we have to we need to start now before this crisis gets out of hand. both as a public health crisis and as an economic crisis. let s do some more comparing and contrasting of your plans. senator bernie sanders recently released a plan to pay for his sweeping proposals on health care, the climate crisis, free four-year college and more. you ve released your own ways to cover those costs. is what senator sanders released good enough for you? look, i just don t see it the same way. bernie thinks we should raise taxes on middle class families to pay for health care. and i ve shown we don t actually have to do that. i think a much better way to do it is to raise taxes on the top 1%, to make giant corporations like amazon and eli lily that report billions of dollars in profits and pay nothing in taxes, i think cracking down harder on them makes sense. and my personal favorite, hiring more irs agents to go after the richest tax cheats. turns out we could generate a lot of money from that. by generating money from this thin slice at the top, we make the health care proposals not only affordable, but we make them progressive. that is we help level the playing field a little bit for families right now that are struggling to pay for health care, struggling to pay for health insurance. think they re doing fine right up until somebody gets sick and they discover that the copays and the deductibles and the uncovered expenses are enough to sink them. look, health care is a basic human right. and i believe in universal health care coverage. i want to get as much help to as many people as quickly as possible. i showed how i can do that on the first day to use tools available to the president, to lower the price of commonly used prescription drugs like insulin and epi pens, hiv/aids drugs and mental health drugs. but i also show how we can pay for health care without raising taxes on middle class families one thin dime. my view is middle class families have taken it on the chin long enough. it s time to ask those at the top to pay a little more, and it s time to help reduce some of the squeeze on hardworking families across this country. that s been the fight i ve been in for pretty much all my grown up life. senator, i have about 30 seconds left. a third of the delegates are up for tomorrow. what would make super tuesday super for you? you know, i m out there fighting for every possible delegate i can get. no, that s what i m doing. i m here in east los angeles. we re about to do a big rally, and i m really excited about this opportunity. i just see 2020 as a chance not just to get rid of donald trump. that s important. but a chance to actually pass a progressive agenda and really make change in peoples lives. the kind of things like child care and canceling student loan debt and raising social security payments that could be life changing for millions of people. the chance to get a little justice into our system, economic justice and racial justice and social justice and environmental justice. we have such opportunities in 2020. i just i just want to see us take advantage of them. i think we can do this. good luck, senator. thank you so much. thank you so much. senator elizabeth warren. and coming up my interview with mike bloomberg. back after the break. e? not anymore. new fructis invisible dry shampoo. powered by oil-absorbing rice starch. invisible on hair. no residue. just non-stop refreshed hair for 24 hours. new fructis invisible dry shampoo. by garnier, naturally! you re doing more to keep your body healthy for the future. shouldn t your toothpaste do the same for your mouth? 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what do you say to them? two things. i can beat donald trump and i don t know that any of the other democratic candidates can. and two, that i am ready for the job and i don t think any of the others are. there s discussion about being a democrat. senator sanders for example is a an independent. who is running as a democratic socialist. you were a member of the republican party? i was a member of the democratic party in massachusetts and all the time in new york until i ran for with mayor and they wouldn t let me on the ballot. then i changed. i won three elections in new york city in the most populous big city in the country. and the democrats voted for me. you became a member of the democratic party. you were independent. only in december of 2018. in 2018 i should say. so why is being a democrat where your heart truly lies? well, i think you ve got to ask what are my values? i m most of the things that it democrats support, whether it s getting guns out of the hands of criminals, whether it s providing social services to people that need it, whether it s reducing incarceration in jail and you go right down the list. i think my actions are as democratic as you could possibly me. what s more incidentally i have supported democrats. i gave money for gun background checks which turned virginia from red to blue, both their legislative and executive branch. and supported candidates for the senate and that flipped the house and made nancy pelosi the speaker and started the impeachment process. you go right down the list of the things i have done for the democratic party and the values that i have which are consistent with what democrats do. i think that makes me more of a democrat than any of the others who talk about doing things and don t do anything. we re going to get back to super tuesday in a moment, but i want to talk about the curo coronavirus. cases are on the rise in the united states right now. if you were in the white house right now what would you do to stop the spread? and be specific. have a doctor or scientist with the reputation for dealing with pandemics worldwide. it is not michael pence who i think he said something about there s no connection between smoking and cancer. that is not the person you have. and if you don t have somebody at the top it doesn t have to be the president but he s got to delegate to somebody and stay away. the president cannot interfere with the scientists and the doctors. if you go to a doctor you don t care what party they re a member of. you want to know do they know the science and can they take care of you? that s what we need. we re in the midst of this crisis. we should have had these people in place earlier, but we didn t. what do you do right now today, the president could appoint somebody who really is independent of the political process. he could make a public commitment to leave him alone and he s got to honor that commitment and then turn things over to somebody who can pull together state health agencies. you want to try to get back as many of the 1,600 scientists trump drove out of office. what would you do? there s nothing you can do to stop it. you have to be able to react. you want to be able to track it. you want to know where it s striking and you want to know we don t need every state has different ways of keeping track. you can t run a railroad that way. is there any cure at the moment? no, there is not. people are working on vaccines. but even if we had a vaccine, how do you distribute the vaccine to virtually the whole world overnight? you can t do that. nobody knows how fast or how far it s going to spread but every time there s one case chances are there ll be more cases and more cases and more deaths. in my company we split in our big offices in london and new york, we re splitting our people between two different buildings so if there is an outbreak in one of them the others won t catch it. our parent company warner media is doing it as well. they re restricting travel and there s talk of closing schools, canceling conventions and keeping fans out of sporting events if the outbreak worsens. what do you think of that? you have to first worry about your employees, their health. and then you want to watery about your business. you ve got to find some ways to stay in business because everybody doesn t to lose their jobs. but the first thing management of the company has to do, the first responsibility is do what s best for their employees. and so we have a lot of people working from home. enormous percentage of our economy is right now working from home every single day because we think contact with one another will spread the disease if it appears and nobody knows when it s going to appear. it s not just managing the spread of the virus but managing fear. because as you know fear is contagious. people will get over fear if they think there s an adult in charge who has a record of being competent and where the government lets the science work. and unfortunately we have no confidence that trump won t interfere. i mean, he called this a democratic hoax the other day. nobody s going to believe anything he says. and the people that he puts in charge. pence seems like a nice guy. met him once, i think. but he doesn t have the credentials to do this. and so people worry about it. let s get back to the campaign now. you joined this race because you said that you didn t see a viable option to defeat donald trump. vice president biden just had a huge blow out victory in south carolina. he did. is he a viable candidate now? well, he certainly has the momentum going with him, there s no question about that. and he did very well, but i think he s won one state primary and three elections but you said earlier in this interview that you were ready for the job. joe biden who was barack obama s vice president, you don t think he s ready for the job? he is a legislator and the job requires a manager and executive. and i feel very strongly about that. he was the vice president. obama that he was ready. you don t think he s ready? obama thought he was ready for what? he was his vice president. he was ready to be president. that s the next job. i don t know. you d have to talk to president obama about that. all i know is we keep putting legislators in the job that requires a manager. that s why mayors do something do different. they re very different than legislators. governors can claim a little bit of management experience although there s a lot of politics in that and legislation as well. but i would want somebody would you hire the person whoever you want to talk about to run your company? so a sitting senator and a former sitting senator and a former vice president, they re not managers, they can t if they have some management experience i d talk to them. take a look what this country has done. we again and again and again have a press conference, i m going to take care of you, i love you, i feel your pain, and here i ve got this bill that is going to take you to it promise land, okay? and then the bill never gets even if it gets passed it never gets funded, there s nobody that tracks it afterwards to see if you deliver the services to the people you said you re going to help. and incidentally if i was wrong you would not see the income and wealth disparities in the country. you wouldn t see the difference in peoples rights and their ability to express themselves and to vote, that sort of thing. no, the country is not doing well. and it s because we have the wrong kind of person. and i couldn t believe it more. when you sat down i said it was a big day for you tomorrow. you re going to compete for the first time tomorrow p, and you recently said you re going to stay in and i quote here, to the bitter end. whut do you need to see tomorrow night to you need to have the decent that is the right poll you have to have a different number of delegates coming out of it. what s a decent number? i don t know that. i ll have to look and see. until you see tomorrow how much each of them gets you can t really tell. you re a numbers guy. ia don t know? i don t know until i get the data. sure i m a numbers guy. give me the data and i can answer your question. listen, last night mayor pete buttigieg dropped out. what did you guys talk about? i said, look i m sorry it ended that way for you and you re a gentleman, and i listened to your speeches and i thought a lot of what you said made sense and i d tell you you have a big durear going forward. he went through the bloomberg training program for mayors. he was in the first class so i have to say nice things about him. he said he did it because he was concerned staying then race would help president trump win. do you share his concern or that concern? everybody s got to make that decision for themselves. i don t think he had that much support in the end where it would have made a difference. but you can play out every scenario among the democratic party and then the democratic candidate versus a republican candidate who i assume will be trump, and nobody knows. you don t think you re taking support from biden? i haven t even been in an election yet. how can i take support from him? we ll be right back with may mayor with michael bloomberg right after this. 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we have a democracy. i don t think you should disrupt everybody else s rights but they stood up, have their backs to me. not the first time i ve been protested and won t be my last. and we have a democracy that it happens occasionally. my answer is always thank you for making me feel like i m at home. this time it was in a church but they have a right to say what they want to say. wherever i go there s trump supporters outside, across the street. yesterday one with an ak-47 over his shoulder. you mean because you re a new yorker and have a thick skinned? people in government, they don t survive if they don t have a thick skin. you ever think that s the reason think may bey you re not contrite enough or that you re not showing enough contrition? look, i m 78 years old. i am who i am. i m not going to try to be somebody that i m not and i think taltsz a great strength because i wouldent want to vote for a phoney. you ve apologized for stop and frisk and said it was a mistake. a south carolina pastor suggested it was not enough. he s got to show repentance. it s hard to show forgiveness when there is no repentance. what would you say to them if they were watching you right now? look, i inherited a process to keep guns out of the hands of di kids, generally. not just kids but it s a process every big city uses and continues to use, eevren in new york, stay continue to use stop and frisk. i noticed it was going up, still from a low base. not anywhere near where it was when it got out of control when i was mayor. we reduced the murder rate from 650 a year down to 300. but what happened during the 12 years we were using this, it got out of hand and there were too many stop and frisks. when i realized that, i cut it by 95%. we thought murder would go up. it didn t. that may be because it was never as effective as we thought or maybe people got used to not carrying guns, which is the whole idea and that s great. do you understand how it effected people? yes, i understand. i also understand how somebody getting murdered effects them and my first instincts were, we ve got to stop 650 murders a year, most of which were, unfortunately, young men of color. before you were political rivals, president trump, he was donald trump then, the real estate guy. you were friendly with him. i played golf with him twice at a charity tournament. reporter: so, what is how do you defeat him? he s a bully. i don t have to see him up front and close. i probably haven t seen him up and front and close five times in my whole life and two of those were this golf tournaments. he is a bully. he is not constrained by telling the truth. he is not knowledgeable, not inquisitive. he doesn t ask. i m told if you come to brief him, give him a report and he turns and watches television. probably not this network. how do you know that? that s what rumor is. and back here you re reading and he s looking over here. he s not inquisitive and he says things or hears things and repeats them as though they are the truth and whether he believes it or not, i have no idea. thank you, mayor. all the best. rets let s do this again. happy to do it. cnn s super tuesday coverage begins 4:00 p.m. eastern. up next a . 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