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Which at times have been out of step with those voters. and the opportunity for desantis is to be able to return the party, to kind of the jeb bush conservatism. even hard right conservatism. but the normal conservatism that republicans expected. that is not the path desantis chose, and it s why he is hitting a ceiling in the republican primary thus far. andrew, i have not seen you in a minute, congratulations on the new gig, thank you for spending some time with, us david, you do not get to go anywhere. next, tamping down on trump,, the former president back in court this week for a special hearing as his hush money case makes new waves. plus, our conversation with abortion providers here in new york city. as they prepare for a possible ban on mifepristone. but first, richard louis is standing by with a look at the other big stories we are watching this hour on msnbc. richard? alicia, very good evening to you. ukraine s president volodymyr zelenskyy is at the g7 summit in japan. he is pleading for more aid in his country s war against russia. he s meeting with world leaders including a planned meeting with president biden sunday. zelenskyy will address the
Night means that monday is the soonest that they can start getting to work on this again. the clock is ticking. andrew, my friend, i tip my hat to you because you have figured out the most concise way to explain a discharge petition. i ve been trying to figure out how to do it in less than a paragraph. so thank you for that service. david, you know, what i hear from a lot of people, like, we have been here before. i have seen this before. and i get that sentiment. and yet i worry that what that misses is the nature of the republican party that kevin mccarthy has currently lead. how far the self destruction of republicans is accelerating since the last time we faced it is absolutely real. and so this is where the 14th amendment has to come into play. because there may not be a deal that can get done. and so it may be that joe biden becomes the first president who says, hey, we are going to use the 14th amendment to ensure the full faith and credit of
No. i think there is a high level of functional ignorance in today s house republican conference. but to your point is a great one, alicia. the entire premise of biden s candidacy and his election was a return to normalcy, a return to stability. and an end to the crazy. so in the absence of donald trump, mccarthy and house republicans are saying, hey, we will play that role now. we will disrupt world markets. we will jeopardize just the u. s. economic security, u.s. national security. because the economic knee capping of the country has national security and the geopolitical implications. i would say that the dirty little secret here that we are not yet talking about but we probably will be next week, when andrew suggests that any deal requires democratic votes, the flip side of that is any deal that mccarthy strikes with biden, he will not be able to deliver his conference to support. and this goes all the way back to this corrupt bargain mccarthy struck to become speaker. saying, hey, i, will be able to get a deal done. no he won t.
Mccarthy will not be able to deliver the votes for whatever deal he strikes with biden. a week from now i don t know how we are any closer without a strong democratic win in the debt limit debate. and i would also say that that means that at some point we do need to hear voices of support from chuck schumer and senate democrats to remind the nation that mccarthy s position could not get through the senate. who knows what to get through the senate, it is not mccarthy s current position. andrew, i, mean this is why we are hearing 60 plus progressives calling on the president to consider the invocation of the 14th amendment, in part as a counter weight to these conservatives, regardless of how legally perilous or complicated it might actually be. it is why you are hearing some talk of, can the white house siphon off enough moderate republicans to reach a deal on their own without kevin mccarthy. which of these scenarios at this point actually seems the most likely? the latter wouldn t jeopardize speaker mccarthy speakership of course.
System. that we can t solve our most basic challenges. and it would weaken us in the eyes of the rest of the world. so why would default be bad? it would hurt every american at home and abroad. as susan glasser writes in the new yorker, quote, the unraveling of a superpower s credibility does not happen in an instant, but overtime. as a result of repeated crises. but the crisis plaguing washington are often self inflicted, it is not let them any less damaging. biden s right to fly back to his embattled capital. the greatest threat to the international order is right here. joining me now, andrew this is darria, a senior congressional reporter from punchbowl news. and msnbc political analyst and former florida congressman david jolly. it is good to see you both. andrew, speaker mccarthy just telling nbc news that negotiations won t move forward until president biden is back home. the white house just released this new memo, quote, that remains a path forward to reach a reasonable bipartisan agreement. if republicans come back to the table to negotiate in good faith. president biden has been clear
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