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-- plus deepening legal roles with the former president, as amanda alvin bragg turns the screws on trump's former cfo. and later, our conversation with abortion providers here in new york as they prepare for the possible and of mifepristone, and another southern state passes a strict ban on most procedures. plus, the dreamers take on desantis in florida state capital, we will speak with two of them, they went to tallahassee to confront lawmakers face to face and more. this is american voices. ♪ ♪ ♪ we begin this hour with a fight over the nation's debt limit as the deadline to ...

manhattan d.a. alvin bragg turns the screws on trump's former cfo. and later, our conversation with abortion providers here in new york as they prepare for the possible and of mifepristone, and another southern state passes a strict ban on most procedures. plus, the dreamers take on desantis in florida state capital, we will speak with two of them, they went to tallahassee to confront lawmakers face to face and more. this is american voices. ♪ ♪ ♪ we begin this hour with a fight over the nation's debt limit as the deadline to reach a deal is now less than two weeks away. it is ...

No. i think there is a high level of functional ignorance in today's house republican conference. but to your point is a great one, alicia. the entire premise of biden's candidacy and his election was a return to normalcy, a return to stability. and an end to the crazy. so in the absence of donald trump, mccarthy and house republicans are saying, hey, we will play that role now. we will disrupt world markets. we will jeopardize just the u. s. economic security, u.s. national security. because the economic knee capping of the country has national security and the geopolitical implications. i wo...

Have the power here, do they understand the global consequences of what they are doing? >> i will take that last part, no. i think there is a high level of functional ignorance in today's house republican conference. but to your point is a great limit, alicia. the entire premise of biden's candidacy and his election was a return to normalcy, a return to stability. and to the crazy. so in the absence of donald trump, mccarthy and house republicans are saying, hey, we will play that role now. we will disrupt world markets. we will jeopardize just the u.s. economic security, u.s. national securit...

When we desire normalcy, it's not about going back, it's that we desire a leader who will actually lead the country. what the ideology is, we're not sure yet. >> right. >> and joe biden can't look back. joe biden must look forward, but you're right. that return to normalcy is really more of a return to stability. >> that's it. >> and barack obama got elected out of a desire for hope. people took a chance on a guy who was in effect an illinois state senator who had just got elected to the united states senate before he decided to run, and it was hope and change. donald trump all about change. w...