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right now. announcer: from nbc news world headquarters in new york, this is nbc nightly news with lester holt. good evening, trying times in the south tonight. fire, water and tornadoes, part of twin deadly disasters that have struck over the last 48 hours. violent storms spawned twisters overnight, killing five people in two states, including tennessee. which is still reeling from the firestorm that exploded the night before in the great smoky mountains. and today we learned three more bodies have been recovered from the scorched ruins, bringing the death toll to at least seven. we ve got it all covered, starting with nbc s jacob rascon in storm-damaged alabama, jacob, good evening. reporter: lester, torpedos reported in six states and nowhere was hit harder than here in rosalie, alabama. i m standing inside what used to be the town s only shopping plaza. the owner climbed out of the rubble alive, while several of his neighbors did not survive. barrelling through the southeast, dozens of tornadoes reported from florida to mississippi. late today, pictures showing a possible funnel cloud near atlanta, threatening a major metropolitan area. it s devastating. i mean, it breaks my heart. reporter: overnight, the town of rosalie, alabama, devastated. the one shopping plaza, reduced to piles of wood and bricks. the owner, greg day, astonished to be alive. nearby, another survivor, bob wright, hoping to find pictures of his family members, who did not make it. i lost two, my brother s boy, his daughter, and that boy s, his boy s girlfriend. reporter: their mobile home tossed across the highway. three people died, two hospitalized, including cynthia wright. how do you remember them? how do you hope people remember them? good old people. that s about all i can do, buddy. reporter: 31 reported tornadoes in two days, theth of destruction spreading over 550 miles. and i thought we were going to die last night. reporter: including through polk county, tennessee, where jennifer young, her husband and two sons barely escaped. my husband saying there s a tornado coming. there s a tornado coming. get the kids, grab the kids. reporter: their neighbors, not so fortunate. two people killed. back in alabama, hope after a family of seven took shelter inside the day care center they own. the twister leaving nothing but the bathroom. the family recovering in a nearby hospital. the healing and the clean-up only just beginning. jacob rascon, nbc news, rosalie, alabama. this is kerry sanders with our first up-close look at damage in gatlinburg, one of the areas hardest hit by the out of control flames. hit the gas, hit the glass. reporter: in the aftermath of the frantic evacuations, now a different chaos, tracking down those still unaccounted for. no one s heard from alice haggler since the fire raced through her neighborhood. my mother call immediate frantically, that the house was on fire. we got disconnected. and because of that, i haven t heard from her since. reporter: then there s michael reed, still waiting for news. looking for my wife, constance. and my daughter, lily. who is 9, and my other daughter chloe, who is 12. reporter: the greatest fear? those missing could be dead. today, the death toll rose to at least seven. this morning, much-needed rain began to fall in the drought-stricken smokies. but it was too little, too late. 17,000 acres here burned. gerry morgan lost all her mother s keepsakes, including photos, treasures that took on extra meaning after her mom died recently from cancer. all of her china, all of her silverware. everything s gone. the morgmorgans escaped as the flames engulfed their driveway. they thought the fire department had the blaze under control. when you look at this, can you believe this? no. we thought they would be able to stop it. reporter: you prayed? i yes, i prayed that they d stop it. reporter: in addition to the widespread devastation that goes on for blocks here just beyond downtown gatlinburg, today the rain caused problems of mudslides and rock slides. forecasters say tonight the threat of rain here with thunderstorms and through the south will continue, but by tomorrow it should be gone. which will allow folks at least some here in gatlinburg to come back in and begin cleaning up. lester? all right, kerry sanders in tennessee, for us to the, thank you. there are new developments in a deadly police shooting that sparked violent protests. prosecutors have decided not to charge an officer for the killing of keith lamont scott in charlotte, north carolina, in september. authorities maintain scott, whose wife recorded the confrontation, had a gun on him. nbc s gabe gutierrez has the latest. don t shoot him. don t shoot him. reporter: more than two months after this dramatic video stunned the nation, today the district attorney announced that brent vincent, the charlotte police officer who shot and killed keith lamont scott, will face no criminal charges. it s my opinion that officer vincent acted lawfully when he shot mr. scott. reporter: the shooting sparked nights of violent unrest here. social media catapulted the story into the national spotlight, based on false information, the prosecutor says. according to state investigators, initial witness accounts that scott was holding a book proved to be false. his wife s statement she didn t know he owned a weapon, also false according to investigators, based on text messages the month before about a firearm in his possession. and they say witness claims that it was a white officer who shot scott are also untrue. police say they were trying to serve a warrant to a different man at an apartment complex when they saw scott with a gun and marijuana. investigators say scott ignored commands to drop the weapon at least ten times. keith, don t you do it. [ gunfire ] did you shoot him? did you shoot him? did you shoot him? he better not be [ bleep ] dead. reporter: the prosecutor also released new surveillance video, of scott at a nearby convenience store shortly before the deadly encounter. the bulge you see here is consistent with the holster and gun that was later described by officers and located at the scene. what appears to be a holster also seen on a freeze frame from a police body camera. still, scott s family is planning a lawsuit and says there s no proof a gun was in his hand. this is an open carry state, so therefore, how do you jump from an open carry state to now there s imminent danger, aggravated imminent danger and therefore deadly force should be used? reporter: the scott family is asking that any protests remain peaceful. gabe gutierrez, thank you. we re learning more information about what may have caused the tragic plane crash in south america that killed 71 people. six miracle survivors found in the wreckage. in the past hour, we got new video of the team on board the doomed flight before takeoff, in high spirits for their upcoming championship. also tonight, air traffic control audio reveals the pilot s urgent final words repeatedly saying he was running out of fuel. we get the latest from nbc s keir simmons in colombia. reporter: in colombia and brazil, memorials, instead of a soccer match. in the brazilian team s empty locker room, flowers and candles. and tonight, a stunning recording obtained by the associated press, apparently between the control tower and the pilot, suggesting the players died because their plane ran out of fuel. we re asking for priority in our approach. we have a fuel problem. the controller tells the pilot he can start his approach in seven minutes. two minutes later, the pilot again asked to land. but is told there s an aircraft below. she asks, how much time do you have to stay put? fuel emergency, the pilot responds, i m asking for immediate descent. a short time later the pilot says the plane is in total electrical failure and out of fuel. the aircraft slams into the side of a hill, short of medellin airport. they should have had a minimum of 45 minutes reserve fuel. and they only held for seven or eight minutes. so it s obvious that they were well into that reserve fuel. reporter: flight attendant jiminez suarez one of three survivors being treated at this hospital told doctors here the lights in the plane went out and then impact. three players survived. the team s back-up goalie still in a coma. are you amazed that he survived this? yes, i am. reporter: among the 71 who perished, a player known as t tia guan, pictured last week finding out his wife was pregnant. his future as a father and the hopes of an entire team wiped out. keir simmons, nbc news, medellin, colombia. we turn to politics now and the ongoing drama of who s in, who s out of president-elect donald trump s incoming administration. during the campaign, trump repeatedly promised to drain the swamp. in our nation s capital. as our halle jackson explains, he s choosing washington, d.c. and wall street insiders to stack his team. reporter: he won the white house partly by promising a purge in washington. we are going to drain the swamp. reporter: but now, the president-elect s latest cabinet picks panned by democrats. so much for draining the swamp they say, accusing him instead of stocking it with alligators. taking special aim at steven mnuchin, officially announced today as donald trump s choice to head the treasury department. feeling terrific. reporter: he was trump s chief fund-raiser, a hollywood fitnessier financier behind movies like mad max, and a former goldman sachs banker who today pushed back against criticism he took advantage of homeowners during the financial crisis by buying a failing bank. we bought it from the government in a highly competitive six-month auction. we saved a lot of jobs and we created a lot of opportunities for corporate loans. reporter: trump s transition team argues there s no one better to help reform the tax code than private-sector picks like mnuchin and like newly named commerce nominee, billionaire investor wilbur ross. so far, almost all the president-elect s administration picks have ties to washington or wall street. and now it s insider and former trump critic, mitt romney, who is in the hunt to lead the state department. his second interview, conducted over a dinner of steak, scallops and frog legs. he did something i tried to do and was unsuccessful in accomplishing, he won the general election. and he continues with a message of inclusion and bringing people together. reporter: today the president-elect is announcing that in a couple of weeks he plans to explain how he will, in his words, get completely out of business operations for the trump organization, with one big question being whether he ll still have an ownership stake, lester. that will be his first news conference in more than four months. hallie, thanks very much. president-elect trump also poised to make an announcement tomorrow, delivering on a promise to save jobs at an indiana company. carrier air conditioning says its reached a deal to keep 1,000 jobs in the state, half the number carrier was planning to shift to mexico but what was the trade-off? nbc s kevin tibbles has reaction from employees. reporter: shift change in indy. carrier workers leave with a reprieve. our jobs are being saved. reporter: a different mood from last february s announcement that 1,400 jobs were being moved to mexico. to move production from our facility in indianapolis to monterey, mexico. back then, candidate donald trump pounced. if i were in office right now, carrier would not be leaving indiana. that i can tell you. that i can tell you. reporter: following negotiations over thanksgiving, last night a tweet from the president-elect. we will keep our companies and jobs in the u.s. why did carrier reverse course? well, details have not been released. sources familiar with the negotiation say carrier will receive tax incentives from the state, where vice president-elect mike pence is governor. sources add carrier s parent company, united technologies, a major defense contractor now avoids angering the new administration. 10% of united technologies business, more than $5 billion, comes from the u.s. government and the pentagon is united technologies single biggest customer. reporter: robert james who has made furnaces for 18 years, has questions, too. we need to know what s behind it. is there anything that s going to be asked of the union. reporter: but for j.t. bray, raising a young family, relief. some people are saying it s a christmas miracle here. we get to keep our jobs and i ll be happy. the kids will be having a good christmas, we won t have the worry of daddy won t have his job. reporter: tomorrow the president-elect and governor pence will be here to tour the carrier plant and talk to its workers. lester? kevin tibbles in indianapolis, thank you. still ahead, new details in a kidnapping mystery that has captured much of the nation s attention. what a mother of two is now telling police about the suspects she says held her captive. there are new details tonight in a bizarre mystery in northern california. authorities are hunting for two kidnappers who abducted a mother and held her for three weeks. investigators say she showed signs of torture and starvation. when she was found on the side of a highway, 150 miles from her home. here s nbc s gotti schwartz. reporter: six days after sherri papini was found chained and beaten, investigators finally have a more detailed description of the two hispanic women suspected of kidnapping her at gunpoint as she went for a jog near her home. both of the subjects spoke in spanish the majority of the time of her captivity. the suspects concealed their faces. reporter: papini spent hours giving interviews to detectives. i will confirm that the suspects did brand her. reporter: what could that mean? maybe a method of torture. it could mean a way of control or exerting control over a person. reporter: her husband, keith papini telling people magazine in a statement that his wife s nose was broken, her hair chopped off, her body covered in bruises in beatings. writing, she was thrown from a vehicle with a chain around her waist, attached to her wrists with a bag over her head, the same bag she used to flag someone down when she was able to free one of her hands. there are still so many unanswered questions. so far no motive or information on where she was held for three weeks, and why her kidnappers released her on thanksgiving day. investigators now working with a sketch artist as detectives compare papini s kidnapping to others in several states, while papini recovers with her family by her side, her husband crediting his wife s survival with her will to stay alive. gotti schwartz, nbc news, redding, california. up next here tonight, the manhunt for a thief caught on camera. striking gold in a brazen broad daylight heist. say that again. you might not know the name, but for sure you know the burger. the man behind the big mac has died. michael james jim delligatti has died. he created the iconic menu item nearly 50 years ago at one of his mcdonald s franchises near pittsburgh when he decided that customers wanted a bigger sandwich. it went national in 1968 and his son says he ate one every day. so who knows, it might be the secret to a long life. jim delligatti was 98 years old. and a tv legend has died. grant tinker was the force behind many beloved shows, including the mary tyler moore show which starred his then-wife and business partner. also lou grant rho rhoda and the bob newhart show. he helped turn fortunes around at nbc during his time as chairman. the network launched blockbusters like cheers family ties. he was 90 years old. police are on a manhunt for a thief caught on camera stealing a pot of gold literally. new video shows a man taking a bucket filled with $1.6 million in gold flakes from an armored truck here in new york while the guard was distracted. police don t think he even knew what was inside the 86-pound bucket until he opened it. he s now believed to be hiding out in florida. coming up next, work versus family. the popular american brand making sure employees never have to choose one over the other. a growing number of absences in bay area classrooms. ===jess/take vo=== why parents are suddenly pulling their kids out and why some may never return. ===raj/vo=== and we re following breaking news. deputies surround a san jose home in search of an escaped inmate. what they just told us about who s inside. ===raj/next close=== finally tonight, it s one of the toughest things for parents, returning to work after having a child. but the popular american outdoors brand patagonia is making it a whole lot easier for moms and dads on the company payroll. because it s got the kind of parental perks you almost never see these days, here s nbc s jolynn kent with more. reporter: for hans cole, every day is take your child to work day. my office is just about 100 feet away from the child care center, so i can literally look out my window and see him playing out in the playground here. reporter: outerwear brand patagonia s day care is the squealing, laughing heart of its corporate headquarters. there s this understanding that children are part of life and a part of work. reporter: moms nurse in meetings, while dads feed in the nursery. any parent can swing by for a quick hello. i m going to meeting. just wanted to give awe big kiss. reporter: the company says offering this kind of in-house child care for 33 years is not a distraction, rather than an investment that s paid off. 100% of moms returning to work after leave we figure we recoup over 90% of our costs. reporter: parents paying $1200 a month for child, a priceless deal for senior director jenna johnson, whose job takes her around the world. wherever she goes, her daughter and caregiver go, too. all paid for by the company. it allows me to excel in my job. but it allows me to excel in my life, really. reporter: patagonia s model is rare. on-site subsidized child care in the u.s. has dropped from 9% in 1996, to just 2% in 2016. often what you ll find in the marketplace is that people understand that something can be positive. but they don t have the tools in terms of how to implement it. reporter: tyler wellborn s mom, susan, brought him to day care at 18 months, now 30 years later, he designs wetsuits for patagonia and has standing breakfast dates with mom at work. it allowed me to not worry about where my kids were when i was busy. it s kind of like an extension of the family. reporter: full circle for a company that hopes to inspire others to put family first, too. jolynn kent, ventura, jolynn kent nbc news, ventura, california. that s going to do it for us on this wednesday night, the rockefeller center christmas tree will be lit tonight during a live broadcast beginning at 8:00 eastern/7:00 central here on nbc. i m lester holt, for all of us at nbc news, thank you for watching and have a good night. two brea a shooting shut down a major freeway in the east bay.as the evening commute gets un right now at 6:00, we re tracking two breaking stories. the evening commute gets underway. and the s.w.a.t. team is surrounding a home in san jose, an escaped inmate might be inside. the news at 6:00 starts right now. good evening, thanks for being with us. we re on top of both of those stories, let s start in san jose where the s.w.a.t. team is attempting to smoke someone out of a home. the million dollar question is, is it chavez? robert honda joins us live on site. they have campbell last night. do they think they have chavez surrounding them? they hope so, anyway. but again, we ve been here since earlier today, and right now, as we reported at 5:00, they used tear gas in in the search we re waiting for a progress report on what happened from that. as you can see from the scene behind me. they have koit drive bottled up. a search team is looking for the escaped inmate. this is what it looked like earlier in the day, when there was a person inside. we were told that person was uncooperative, would not come out. that s what led to the stand-off. we can t talk about what tactics or options are being considered, officers have told us someone is still inside. this search follows the capture of the other inmate we were talking about, who

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if he is, il would say mr. president-elect, understand this, when you become president of the united states, words matter. they have a completely different meaning. they drive people all around the world. you trash journalists in america, you hurt journalists and the free press in russia or venezuela or other places. you trash muslims who are terrorists, you send a signal around the globe. the thing that s so interesting here and that s going to be such a change is donald trump plays from a completely different set of rules. he shoots from the hip. when a crisis happens, it s usually the media that leap and people in power and officials who say, hold on, we got to check on everything and make sure we are actually correct and speaking precisely. we ve got just the opposite happening here. we ve got a president-elect who s shooting from the lip and it s the media saying what do we do to catch up and prof this is right or not. it s an education troxtraordina. panel, thank you very much pip suspect we ll have time to talk about this through the coming months. thank you. we have some breaking news we want to get to right now. we re following a lot, including this deadly plane crash. let s get right to it. good morning to you. welcome to your new day. 75 people have been killed. there was a charter plane carrying a brazilian soccer team. the true miracle here is that there are survivors. we ll have a live report in minutes. searching for a motive in that ohio state university attack. what was he motivated by? we have cnn s rosa flores live if columbus, ohio. what have you learned? reporter: good morning. one of the big questions this morning is why. law enforcement not ruling out terrorism just yet, but they say they don t have a motive today for us. one of the biggest clues, perhaps, is from a post to facebook around the time of the attack. ohio state university police naming student abdul razak ali artan as the attacker. a u.s. official telling cnn artan was a legal permanent resident originally from somalia who came to the u.s. via pakistan. authorities now look into posts he made on his facebook page, expressing grievances about crimes against muslims, posted moments before the attack, saying, quote, i m sick and tired of seeing my fellow muslim brothers and sisters being killed and tortured, and uh can t take it anymore. back in august, osu s campus newspaper quoted artan in a profile, saying he was scared to pray in the open as a muslim. investigators are looking into possible motives for the attack and say they cannot rule out terrorism. we re always aware that s a potential. we re going to continue to look at that. reporter: police say just before 10:00 a.m. monday morning, artan deliberately jumped a curb, ramming a car into a group of pedestrians. he exits the vehicle and used a butcher knife to start cutting pedestrians. reporter: eyewitnesses desperately calling 911. a guy ran a car through a crowd of students. he did it purposely. i m at ohio state right outside. a guy crashed his car into a bunch of people. reporter: a minute into the attack, osu police officer alan horujko arrived on the scene, confronting a knife-wielding artan, shooting him three times, killing him. the officer engaged the suspect and fired shots and used deadly force to stop the threat. reporter: 11 people wounded in the attack, all are expected to survive. as the attack unfolded, students barricaded doorways to avoid becoming a victim. the campus on lock dayne for an hour and a half. ohio state will be stronger, having come through this. reporter: now, classes resume thank you very much, rosa. joining us now, logan chapman, who ended up feet away from the attacker. we also have dr. andrew thomas from the osu medical center. thank you very much for being with us. logan, i want to start with you. you were standing outside when you saw this car plow into a group of pedestrians. then what happened? well, we were all outside for the fire alarm going off. the car plowed through the back of students. initially, everyone thought it was an accident because the engine was still running, like the gas pedal had stuck, like the car got out of control. everyone was making sure that the people who were hit were okay and that the driver was okay. as soon as everything had settled down, he got out of the car and started slashing people closest to the car with a knife. and you were there at that point because you had run over to see if you could help and make sure people were okay. as i understand it, you were standing at driver s side towards the front headlight of the car when he got out of the car. tell us what that moment was like. was he saying anything when he had the knife in his hand and was attacking people? i don t think he said anything. he might have yelled, but if he did, it was lost if all of the commotion. i don t remember him saying anything at all. so what happened when you figured out that, no, this wasn t just an ordinary car accident of some kind? it took a while to realize that he had a knife and it wasn t just a regular car accident. once everyone realized that, everyone scattered. i personally ran through the building to the other street across the block. i lost sight of him at that point. dr. thomas, tell us about what was happening at the hospital when these injuries started coming in and what you saw. good morning. thank you. this is something that we train for, both here at the ohio state university medical center as well as with our colleagues around the city. columbus is a major metropolitan area of over a million people. we have a local trauma service that coordinates activities like this. we work with our local ems and first responders. multiple times per year on drills. so this was something that felt real to us, obviously. it was not a drill, but at the same time, our folks were coordinated, knew what to do. we had within minutes trauma surgeons arrive in the emergency department. we had nurse, respiratory therapists, pharmacist, all ready for patients to arrive. i want to just read what we think the latest is with the victims. six victims with car-related injuries, four victims with stabbing-related injuries, one with laceration. at least two went through surgeon general. can you tell us how those that are at your hospital are doing? sure. everyone s doing well. at this point we see no reason to be concerned about life-threatening injuries. there are still, as far as my information, four individuals in the hospital, two at wexner medical center and two others at another local hospital. we were able yesterday to go visit some of those individuals. unfortunately, missed some that were treated and released from the emergency department. met with them, met with their families, if their families were available, and we have a great student counseling service here that does outreach to students, both that were injured, but obviously there were dozens, if not hundreds of other students that were r involved, either at the scene or being barricaded in classrooms. there will be a big outreach to both the students, staff, and faculty community for counseling, therapy, anything that s needed to help people respond to this. we re very resilient here. it s a city within a city with over 50,000 students. tens of thousands of staff and faculty. we ll get through this. of course you will, doctor. we just don t know how long the repercussion of something like this, witnessing it and experiencing it. logan, we ve seen some pictures and video of kids having to barricade their classrooms, being terrified and just praying that the attacker didn t come in. when you went and hid, then what did you see? i didn t get to see a whole bunch once i got inside. they had already taken down the knifeman in the car. so everyone was inside being safe. i didn t get to see anything in the classroom i was in. i was close to the initial incident. yeah, no. i guess i mean inside, what was the reaction of students who were scared and trying to hide? everyone was on edge. no one was freaking out in the area i was. everyone figured it was under control because we were near the biggest section of policemen on campus at that point. everyone close to me felt safe more or less. and logan, i read that you have a regret that you weren t able to tackle the attacker and to stop him. i just hope that you will be able to get past that because everyone understands that you did the best you could, as did everyone in that situation. we re so grateful for the officer who showed up so quickly and was able to take him out. yeah. doctor there s no doubt he s the true hero in this situation. absolutely. dr. thomas, logan chapman, thank you very much for being here. best of luck to you guys. thank you. thank yo lest get to chris. that kid s job was to survive. the only person responsible for what happened there is the boy who did it. breaking news, 75 people killed after this charter plane crashed going from bolivia to colombia. inside, a brazilian soccer team as well as traveling media and of course the staff and crew. the amazing part of this is that there are survivors. let s get the very latest from cnn s shasta darlington live in rio de janeiro. this is going to be hard news there. this team had just ascended to national stardom. reporter: that s right, chris. this really is being treated like a national tragedy. as you said, there is the silver lining. there are now six survivors. just a few minutes ago, we thought it was only five. as rescue workers pulled aside the fuselage, they found a sixth person who survived. this has been difficult work. very rainy conditions. of course, the crash occurred just outside of medellin, colombia, right around 1:00 a.m. there are five survivors in the hospital. they ve just found a sixth. we know two of them are from the chapecoense brazilian soccer team. one of them is a crew member. there are hundreds of people already gathering at the stadium, just waiting for details about who the survivors were and who didn t make it. really, tough story in this soccer crazy country. we know that the plane took off from bolivia as the team was headed this was the final leg of their journey, headed to this south american tournament. they were ecstatic right before they took off. they were celebrating the fact they had climbed up, clawed their way up to the top tier r in brazil s football league, and now they were going to represent their home team at this very important tournament, chris and alisyn. oh, my gosh, shasta. just seeing the video of them at the airport obviously before all of this, it s really striking and to know that there are survivors. please keep us updated on that story. all right. turning now to the white house transition. president-elect donald trump will meet tonight with mitt romney, who is still reportedly on the short list for secretary of state. mr. trump confirming moments ago his cabinet pick for health and human services, a vocal critic of obamacare. sarah murray is live in washington. what have you learned? reporter: good morning. well, the trump transition effort is make a few staffing announcements official today, saying donald trump will choose tom price, the congressman, to be the secretary for health and human service. and also he s going to choose seema verma, a health care policy ceo, to be the new administrator for the centers for medicare and medicaid services. now, even though he s moving forward with some of these staff announcements, other ones seem to be in a trickier position, especially what to do about secretary of state. donald trump is barrelling ahead with another round of cabinet picks today. sources say he s slated to name georgia congressman tom price, a fierce critic of obamacare, to lead the department of health and human services. the most important thing that the american people understand and appreciate is that it s destructive to their health care. reporter: and after this teaser from vice president-elect mike pence monday evening a number of very important announcements tomorrow. reporter: more announcements could be in the pipeline today. but on one of the thornest issues, who will fill the coveted position of secretary of state, it appears trump is still pondering his options. the president-elect is slated to dine with mitt romney tonight, a sign he s still in the running for the job, in spite of the protest of some of trump s top aides. the number of people who feel betrayed to think that a governor romney would get the most prominent cabinet post after he went so far out of his way to hurt donald trump. reporter: adding to the intrigue, trump plans to sit down with another candidate for the role of the nation s top diplomat today, senate foreign relations committee chairman bob corker. after meeting with david petraeus on monday, trump tweeted he was very impressed. very good conversation. we ll see where it goes from here. reporter: but petraeus, who s in the running for a variety of national security and defense slots, could be a problematic pick. while trump continually attacked hillary clinton on the campaign trail for her handling of classified information she deleted the e-mails. she has to go to jail. reporter: petraeus comes with his own baggage. he stepped down in 2012 as cia director amid fallout from an extramarital affair and was convicted of a misdemeanor for sharing classified information with his mistress. he s currently on probation in that case. this morning it appears donald trump is awake and tweeting, although not about anything that has to do with the cabinet positions he has to fill. i want to draw your attention to one of his tweets this morning, saying nobody should be allowed to burn the american flag. if they do, there must be consequences, perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. now, even though many people, of course, disagree with anything to desecrate the american flag, this is a right that s protected under the first amendment, and it s a right the supreme court in the united states has upheld on multiple occasions. back to you guys. 1969, that s when the law changed, making flag burning speech. sarah murray, thank you very much. so what is the future of the aca, obamacare, the affordable care act? is mitt romney really a candidate for secretary of state? we re going to get you some insight from a member of the trump transition team next. all right. so the president-elect just tweeted that burning the flag should be a crime. there have been comments that millions voted illegally, and there are also some real questions about what s the future of your health care and who s going to be the main diplomat for the united states of america. let s discuss them all with transition communications director jason miller. good to see you. good morning. let s try and get the balance right this morning. can we agree that there s constitutional law that burning the flag, as much as we might hate it, is defended first amendment speech? chris, flag burning is completely ridiculous. i think you know that. i think the vast majority of americans would agree. but legal. chris, it s completely ridiculous. i don t think there s a big universe of people out there who support flag burning. it s terrible and despicable, but the big news, chris, this morning, you saw this, i know we re going to get to it, dr. tom price to run hhs and seema verma. a big impact on repealing obamacare. i want to talk about those. when the president-elect says something, when the president of the united states saying something, we got to listen. when he says something should be illegal that s a protected constitutional right, i m not saying i like t but that s a big part of the first amendment in this country. a frustrating, maddening part of it is that you have to respect people s ability to say what you don t like to hear. the president just said burning the flag should be illegal. it is a protected constitutional right. can we agree on that? no, we completely disagree. you don t think the constitution has been defended by the supreme court in 1969 as validating burning the flag as free speech? chris, absolutely should be illegal, but again, we know why we re this morning. we re going to talk about the transition team, about what this government is going to do for the american people. i think most americans would agree with me that nag burning should be illegal. it s completely despicable. but it is constitutional. you show that. the president should know that. it should be illegal, chris. all right. i don t want to run in circles either, but these things matter, jason. they just do. when things have been vetted by the supreme court, you have to respect that. you have to respect that. should it be illegal? that s a political question. but if you pass a law that contradicts a law of the land, that s seen as constitutional. i hold the flag sacred as well. doesn t mean someone doesn t have the right it burn it. i m saying what s legal may not be likable. chris, i very much respect your opinion. i think we see it s not an opinion. it s the law. 1969. you re not actually diving in and advocating and defending flag burning. you have to defend what is legal in this country under the constitution. just because i don t like it doesn t mean that it s not legal, it s not right for somebody. what do you want this country to be, only what you like? only what president-elect trump likes? that s what s now okay behavior in america? bad day for a lot of people. flag burning should be illegal. end of story. lest talk about how we re going to repeal and replace obamacare and these fantastic picks. let s talk about that. tom price has not spoken about most important element of any change that you make. repealing is easy. that s just a sign on a piece of paper. then you have to respect the validity of the contracts, which last about a year be. it s the mandate. what are you going to do about the mandate? just to remind everybody at home, the mandate is insisting that everyone get into the pool and get health care. the young and the healthy as well as the old and infirm. will you keep the mandate? i think the mandate is a massive problem. i think that when dr. price gets in there and starts going at it, working with the rest of the team, we ll hear clear live. so you don t know right now whether or not you ll keep the mandate? every analyst agrees, if you don t have the young people in the pool, you cannot price effectively. obamacare is blowing up. it s not working. people aren t signing up. more people are signing up all the time. a million signed up since the election. article after article, people are reviewing it and saying obamacare is absolutely imploding and that s why we need to repeal and remace obamacare. so dr. tom price, every cycle for the last several cycles, has introduced solid replacement bills. that s one of the thing he s going to lead the charge on. miss seema verma hold on. i don t want to move away from price yet. this is part of our team that s going to come in and repeal and replace this is. you saw the study that came out this morning, the gallup poll. 80% of americans think we should get rid of or make changes to obamacare. right, but you have to forgive some public sentiment on something that s been so misleading. the discussion about what the aca is and is not, what works and what does not, has been so spun through the mitt call cycle that you can t hold people accountable. here s what i think we re getting a little off track with this. for folks who are getting these premium increase letters in the mail, for people getting these policy cancellation notices, this isn t something has to be fixed. well, repeal and replace. this isn t some spin. repeal and replace is spin. everything that has been put forward by price he s put forward five different plans, which is something he s going to have to figure out when he gets in there. usually the hhs secretary isn t architect. let s say he is. the likelihood is you re not going to completely scrap it. you re going to keep larng elements of what s going on. you may fix. the idea of repeal and replace is going a little wholesale when you re going to be a little more retail in your changes. chris, for people who are getting these letters in the mail saying their premiums are going up. arizona, over 100%. pennsylvania, upwards of 53%. other states will be even higher. people are getting cancellation notices. i m someone who s a small business owner. i ve seen our health care policy skyrocket. and even people who aren t in obamacare are seeing the effect it s having on overall health care system. these are real world, real problems affecting people s wallets every day. that s why we need to know the fixes. and the president-elect is putting together a solid team that will be working with the senate and the house. dr. price will be someone at forefront working with the vice president-elect as well. we ll have a team because we re going to put together the exact plan and how we re going to do this. and it s something that the president-elect has said it s something we wants to tackle early in miss administration, potentially a day one issue. again, that was a campaign promise he made on the trail. it s something he s going to uphold. people are worried about what s going to happen with their health care. we have a president-elect who s going to dive in and tackle that right away. they re going to come up with a solid plan and move forward right away. rvelg a and to end where we began, in this new network with president trump, what will be allowed? what the constitution says is allowed or what people at that time politically decide what s allowed? what will be the guide? mpk t the president-elect is a very strong supporter of the r first amendment, but there s a big difference between that and burning the american flag. will he respect constitutional law? that s what i m asking. i don t like burning the flag either. you going to put something in jail if they do it? flag burning should be illegal. getting b inting back to what t president is going to be focused on, he s going to work on jobs, fix our health care. we re looking at big headlines this morning that quite frarnkl should scare people. go back 10, 20 years ago. the headlines we re seeing are becoming all too often. it s really scary stuff. we need a president who s going to get in there and make it stop. you got to make fix, but you don t want america to be in fear. we re going to see president-elect is a fab it s aic leader. he s putting together a great cabinet. also, we have in addition to dr. price, we ll have additional transition team members coming on board, folks working as vice chairs and executive committee for how we re going to form and put this administration toogt. we have another cabinet level pick coming out early afternoon today. as the president-elect said, as he comes to a decision on all these, he s going to announce them and get them out there. when you look at where president-elect trump is at this stage of the transition as opposed to recent administrations, he s well ahead of the pace. i think he has some solid picks that have been announced, and people should be proud that the team is put together. jason miller, thank you for the work as always. appreciate it. one democratic congressman wants nancy pelosi s job. up next, we speak to tim ryan to find out why. you tell your inthey made a mistake. the check they sent isn t enough to replace your totaled new car. the guy says they didn t make the mistake. you made the mistake. i beg your pardon? 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well, first and foremost, our thoughts and prayers go out to all of the families that are at ohio state. i mean, this is just a tragic act in such a great town, such a great college campus. just a few days after the great ohio state/michigan football rivalry. so the whole state is still in shock about what happened. i think we got to let the investigation play out. clearly there s it sounds like there was some rhetoric and posts that point in the direction of something very nefarious, but i think we have to let the investigation may out. congressman, one more point before we get to to your race. that is that as soon as tomorrow, the ohio senate plans to vote on a bill that could possibly allow concealed handguns on college and university campuses. do you think that s a good idea? you know, i really don t. i think that college campus and other areas need to be safe havens. i get it. i understand the other side of the argument, but there are certain places that i think need to be kind of insulated from guns. i think place of education and higher learning are those places. but you know, again, that s in the ohio senate s hands right now. yeah. okay, so when we spoke last week when you were here in our studio, at that time your bid was considered somewhat of a long shot to unseat nancy pelosi. how s it looking today? well, i think a lot of people are going to be surprised tomorrow. we have a lot of support. we keep rolling out members of congress who are supporting us. we rolled out two more last night. we have two more coming today that i think people will be excited about. i ve been making calls, you know, all week since i left you in new york. people are excited for some change. i m excited to have the opportunity to lead the caucus if they so choose. i think we need a change. again, we re at the smallest number we ve had in our democratic caucus since 1929. we really got to ask ourselves when we walk out of the room tomorrow, what are we going to tell the american people. that what happened on tuesday and what we ve not been able to do since 2010 is okay. we re going to keep going down the same path. or will we have a new messenger, a new message, a new brand, and a new democratic party. what s your biggest beef with nancy pelosi s leadership style? well, you know, we re not winning. that s the main beef i have. i come out of the sports world and played a lot of sports growing up. we keep score. we re not winning. i just don t think it s acceptable for us to say losing 60-some seats since slaughtered country. obviously everything in washington, d.c. is now republican. we want to be in a position to be able to implement our ideas as democrats. it s not, you know, just getting in, but it s we have certain thi things we fight for. pension, making sure kids don t get thrown off their health insurance. these are important things to democrats. if we don t have the levers of power, there s not going to be anything we can do other than complain about it. i think we need to make a strategic decision to go in another direction, very respectful of nancy pelosi and all of her accomplishments, but i think it s time to go in a new direction. why do you think democrats have lost their way, specifically what have you all done wrong? well, we don t have a robust economic mess an. we don t have to give up our r progressive values on progressive issues. those, of course, are a major part of what we stand for as democrats. but if we don t have a robust economic message, we don t have a message that ties all different interest groupsing to. if you want to run a successful campaign, a campaign with a lot of juice a lot of magic to it, you ve got to have a theme, a robust economic theme in policies that tie everyone together. look, if you re black, brown, white, gay, straight, man, woman, you want a good job. you want a job that pays. you want increased wages. you want a good pension. you want health care benefits. you want security. and you don t want to have to work 80 hours a week and miss your kid s soccer game or school play. these are fundamental to everyone in the country. if we don t have a mess an that really puts that out there, we lose. that s what s been happening. that s why we are where we are now. so as you and i speak right now at 7:36 eastern, what do you think gluyour numbers are? we are within striking distance. we ve got a lot of support and a lot of people that are helping us. as i said, we keep rolling out endorsements. marsha fudge, who actually ran the democratic national convention for us in philadelphia, was chair of the congressional back caucus, very, very popular in our caucus, is supporting me and came out last week. so we have key endorsements, moving people into our camp. we have to correspondent to make the case to our colleagues in the next 24 hours that what s the world going to look like when we walk out of that room on wednesday. what are we going to tell all the democrats? what are we going to tell all the americans that told us they wanted change, that we weren t going in the right direction? i feel like we really need to tell them we got to move in another direction r. i m the one that s there to help provide that voice. and i know i can go anywhere in the country and campaign for democrats on the issues we talked about a little bit earlier. i m excited to be able to do that. i m excited to help create what can look like a very, very new democratic party. congressman tim ryan, we will be watching. thanks so much for taking time for new day. chris? if you ve been paying attention to the transition for the presidential administration, you ll notice there s a lot of drama surrounding it. is the president-elect intentionally choosing his administration like a reality show? and if so, is this a good sign for the country? some big brains on the transition ahead. the trump transition. romney is in, then they hate him. rudy will get the rose. no, he s going to be fired. it seems like a reality show is going on. then to add some spice, trump tweeting random distractions, like saying millions voted illegally. not true. or that nag buflag burning shou illegal. so is this strategy or just track i d tragedy? we have a good panel for you this morning. we have cnn mitt capolitical congressm commentator r kevin madden. good to have you all here. kevin, you ve been involved with this before. what is your observation as to the motivation of this, the obvious dissent going on? is it just pageantry, or is there some purpose here? well, i think we re trying to prescribe a strategy to it would be going a bit too far. what the mistake we all make in watching this process play out is we try to jung it against what we believe were con vengal transitions of the past. you just can t do that. the trump campaign was successful because it was very unconventional. and it was a campaign that litigated its differences in public, whether that was in the newspapers or nonstop on cable television or on social media. so this is the new norm that you re going to, i think, see with the trump campaign. i m sorry, with the trump transition, and likely one we ll see going into the administration, which is a public airing of differences, a little bit of chaos between power centers inside the administration, power centers inside trump world. then ultimately the president-elect himself, donald trump, making the decision. so scottie, tom price coming out. he s a legit author of different versions of how to do health care in this country. gets the big job of hhs but gets overrun by the president-elect s tweets, saying that millions voted ilt leg ed illegally, whi not true. now saying flag burning should be illegal, which comes out of nowhere. why is he stepping on his own thunder, to misplace metaphors? i don t know if it s necessarily. there are several things mr. trump is giving us to cover. you don t have to stick on the same subject. it is a get thing to see tom price. i think he s one of the republicans that offered a solution, just like all the people that mr. trump is putting on the cabinet. here s the thing. one message that was cheerilear sent by the people to washington, d.c. is we need transparency in government. the people don t trust what is going on. while we might consider this to be pomp and circumstance, almost like the apprentice cabinet as they go to the gold elevators and go up for their interview, i think this is mr. trump saying, look, i m going to keep everything out in public, i m going to show you who i m talking to, and show you i m bringing a variety of ideas to the table. paul, scottie says it s all about transparency with donald trump, who has made tran parn si a dirty word. in fact, it s about lack of transparency. i disagree with madden. i think there is a strategy. the strategy is weapons of mass distraction. right. when the trump university lawsuit was settled, donald trump and his firm paid $25 million to people who accused him of fraud. what did he do? he tweeted out attacks on the cast of hamilton and saturday night live . why? because we follow the shiny objects. instead of saying, look, i have these, i ll be transparent, i m going to release my taxings and sell all my companies because i m going to put my sole efforts into representing the american people, which is what he must do if he s transparent. no, instead he tweets out attacks on cnn, lies about the popular vote, which he lost by over 2 million, and now apparently his new theories on constitutional law. all to distract us. kevin madden, weapons of mass distraction. that s a catchy phrase. do you agree? let me extend and arevise my remarks in accordance with what the gentleman from texas said. the transition part of it is what i was talking about. i don t think there s a lot of strategy there. but paul is right that what donald trump seems to like is a lot of chaos around him. when there s chaos in the media and amongst his opponents when they re chasing off on these stories about constitutional haw or whether or not the media is fair, he s firmly put in control. when he s allowed to dictate the cadence and the tone of a lot of the media coverage, we re about to go into a 48-hour news cycle now just on this question of flag burning. he s actually in control. when he s in control, that s right where he wants to be. in that sense, i think what they re doing on the social media side is definitely a strategy. i don t know. we re not going to go crazy about it here because you have a clear constitutional precedent. check youri iphone right now for twitter. chris, here s the thing. i can t believe that i m stepping into this conversation because i ve learned never usually to involve outside the subject matter. he said he thinks it should be outlawed. he doesn t like it. i think a majority of americans don t like it. he s not saying he s going to issue an executive order to make flag burning illegal. let s remember, the supreme court hasn t always gotten it right. 1858, the supreme court ruled that dread scott should remain a slave, despite him living amongst a free territory. he s just throwing it out there. he s allowed to have his opinion. he doesn t think abortion is right. he s not saying i m going to make an executive order. let s not make a big to do of everything. for the record, he couldn t issue an executive order. exactly. then why are we having this conversation? good thing to remember. he believes it should not be right and there should be a consequence. he s not suggesting an executive order. it s a good thing he isn t. the first amendment is the first amendment. most people are offended by flag burning. fine more mr. trump to speak out against flag burning. why was he not as upset when people were doing the hitler salute? they have a first amendment right to do so. but when people who claim to support donald trump are making nazi phrases, he have is not as offended. he has to be careful about pick and choosing. i m more offended by burning the flag. it s something we love. people see the salute as a hateful thing. but they re expressions protected by the first amendment. understood. gentlemen, lady, thank you very much for being with us. i like the respectful disagreement. alisyn? house democrats are pushing their republican colleagues to address donald trump s conflicts of interest that you ve just heard about. now they re calling for an urgent investigation. by the time you head to the bank and wait to get approved for a home loan, that newly listed, mid-century ranch with the garden patio will be gone. or you could push that button. sfx: rocket launching. cockpit sounds and music crescendo. skip the bank, skip the waiting, and go completely online. get the confidence that comes from a secure, qualified mortgage approval in minutes. lift the burden of getting a home loan with rocket mortgage by quicken loans. (whisper) rocket you tell your inthey made a mistake. the check they sent isn t enough to replace your totaled new car. the guy says they didn t make the mistake. you made the mistake. i beg your pardon? he says, you should have chosen full-car replacement. excuse me? let me be frank, he says. you picked the wrong insurance plan. no. i picked the wrong insurance company. with liberty mutual new car replacement™, we ll replace the full value of your car plus depreciation. call and if you have more than one liberty mutual policy, you qualify for a multi-policy discount, saving you money on your car and home coverage. call liberty mutual for a free quote today. at that s liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance. house democrats calling for an urge against investigation, they say, into donald trump s wide international business holdings and conflicts of interest. trump says he s not breaking the law and voters knew of all of his business holdings before they voted for him. let s bring in carl bernstein, the author of a woman in charge. he s a cnn analyst and journalist of course and tim o brien, the author of trump nation, the art of being the donald. executive editor of bloomberg view. try to walk us through exactly what these conflicts of interest are, why the viewers and voters should care. i ll start with you, tim. you ve done a great deal of reporting on his finances, taxes. can you sort of communicate the scope of these conflicts of interest? well, they re global and domestic. the primary issue is whether or not he s going to pursue public policies that can that end up feathering his nest financially or from a deal s perspective. i think the media has mischaracterized a chunk of how they describe his business dealings. he s routinely referred to as having a vast real estate empire. it s not vast nor is it an empire. it s essentially a licensing operation that operates globally. it would be very easy to appoint someone to operate those licensing deals. he has operations in the middle east, asia, that represent the hot bed of issues that haven t been resolved. carl, the seminal question is do people care? donald trump says they all knew who i was before they voted for me. do you accept any of this? no. this is a corrupt arrangement. it s an invitation to egregious corruption. should there be an investigation? if this were hillary clinton or richard nixon there would be a congressional investigation of this the minute his term started. we ve got to look at what s happening here. we elected a president of the united states. his job is to lead the country, not be head of trump, inc. the conflict cannot be resolved. it must be that this president puts into a blind trust his holdings. it s simple as that. how do you put into blind trust a business that s based on licensing and his popularity. the assets will be sold. i don t know the mechanics or forensics of how he gets rid of what he has. let s look at his family. his family is deeply involved in all of these properties. he is involved in countries all over the world in which oligarchs are trying to get their share. this is an invitation to a terrible, terrible level of corruption on its face. you must have a separation of the president of the united states, there s also a clause in the constitution that might well apply to this and says that this cannot be, but this is not why donald trump was elected. i suspect that most of the people in the country when they have a chance to look at this say, no, this is not what we elected this president for. this is a swamp. tim, i think average americans would be hard-pressed to say that they understood the level of donald trump s business arrangements when they went into the polling booth for him. he has something like 144 individual companies in 25 countries. how could they know? he never made any of it transparent. absolutely. you d have to be pretty steeped in the reporting as you are to understand the breadth of all of this. but i think if donald trump turns the white house into a walmart, average voters will care. they may not care now, but it s the role of the media and congress and his own white house and transition team to monitor this stuff because he s occupying an office that comes with a certain amount of dignity, designated amount of transparency that he s completely flouted. he should release his tax returns. he should ring fence his assets. voters will care when this starts to infect the public policy process which inevitably it will. doesn t he have perception on his side? the taxes thing, people were okay with. i m not sure if people are okay with it. they said he should show his taxes but he got elected anyway. of course he got elected. the country is deeply divided, but it doesn t mean necessarily that most people in the country accept this kind of thing. what they can stand on. this is the great one. that is what he is creating. months and months. this is the argument going back and forth. look at donald trump s business. you don t think that the election removes this whole area of speculation? people weighed him, measured him and found him sufficient? look, first of all it was not a referendum on whether or not donald trump should be head of trump, inc., for the world while he is in the white house. that s not what this election is. it says it s separate. he can t do it. it s an impossibility. look at his children. look at their visits to russia. look at their visits to georgia. look at jared kushner s activities and where he has been. it is impossible not to be corrupted by this. that s the problem. even if donald trump had the most sterling business record in the world, which he does not have, you cannot avoid corruption in this situation. carl, tim, thank you for helping us understand it all. great to see you. thanks, alisyn. we re following a lot of news including a deadly plane crash so let s get to it. charter plane carrying a brazilian soccer team crashes on its way to colombia. 75 people killed. there are now six survivors. this is a national tragedy. the guy ran a car through a crowd of students. he looks normal like everybody else. i never expected anything. terrorism? the only thing you can say based on common knowledge, this was done on purpose. a number of very important announcements. see where it goes from here. they spent a year and a half beating up hillary clinton. there s a lot of similarities in revealing classified information. i know one thing about mitt romney, he s going to be loyal. what do i know about mitt romney? he is a self-serving egomaniac. this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. welcome to your new day. we do begin with breaking news for you. 75 people are dead after a charter plane carrying a brazilian soccer team crashes in colombia. miraculously several people on board did survive. officials confirming the plane was carrying a now famous brazilian football club. it crashed miles after the pilot declared an emergency. we have cnn s shasta darlington. she has the very latest from rio de janeiro. this was a brazilian soccer team. it s going to hit the hearts very heavy there. thaertt s right, chris and alisyn. 75 people killed when a chartered plane crashed outside of colombia. this was around 1:00 a.m. local time. the good news, if you can call it that, is that there were six survivors. initially there were five people recovering in hospital, then afterwards they found a sixth person under the fuselage as rescue workers were struggling to find bodies. they found

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during the campaign for shipping jobs to mexico. donald trump and mike pence says they are keeping the jobs in the u.s. steve mnuchin says it is an example of trump making good on a promise. the carrier deal. it is terrific. the president-elect and vice president-elect picked up the phone and calmled the ceo of united technologies and said we want to keep jobs here. reporter: they are not offering details on the deal. later today, trump will appear in cincinnati, ohio for a thank you tour to show his appreciation for being elected the next president. will and christine. thank you, jim. when it comes to a deal like the one he brokered with carrier, the devil is in the details. the carrier parent company, united technology, is keeping a lid on what kept the jobs in the u.s. trump awaits a hero s welcome in indianapolis and some questions. martin savage reports. reporter: good morning, will and christine. most of the employees here want to express their thanks. they also have a lot of questions. it is not they are not grateful. they are. remember, there are 1,400 jobs here. only 1,000 talked about being saved. that means several hundred people fear it is their job that is still going to be lost. until they hear the details, they will continue to have the fears. there are other concerns such as will they have to cut back on wages? how long is carrier willing to stay? they don t have the answers. there are other people who want to find out more about just what is the deal that got carrier to change its mind. it has been suggested that carrier got more incentives from the state of indiana. remember back in february when carrier said it was leaving, the state tried hard to keep the company here. and yet was unsuccessful. it seems it has to be more than just state incentives. it has been suggested that the president-elect said he could bring about some kind of deal by reducing the corporate tax code or maybe reducing federal regulations. there are some, especially employees of carrier, suggests that united technology, the parent company, began to worry because they do $5 billion of defense contracts every year, those contracts could be harmed if they moved carrier to mexico. will and christine. so carrier staying at that facility for now. in a statement, the company emphasized the stance on trade. this agreement does not diminish our brief in the benefits of free trade and forces of globalization will require solutions for the long-term competitiveness of the u.s. and american workers moving forward. this would be a major challenge for donald trump. how will he make good on his promise for u.s. companies and workers? that is unclear. we know it is a top priority for the incoming administration. commerce secretary pick wilbur ross was on erin last night. what is the first thing you will do on day one? naftarenegotiation? that is part of it. let s bring in zach wolf. i want to bring in the economic team on day one. let s start with the carrier deal. obviously a win for the trump team. when you have united technology, a big industrial military conglomerate, owns carrier. united technology benefits from huge government contracts and it is sending jobs overseas. that is how globalization is working. to be able to extract the concession for them is really remarkable. it is. you know, we said this several times. we don t know all of the details here. is this something that has to do with carrier or all of the government contracts for united technologies? there is a lot of leverage the government would have. it may be a promise by donald trump. i ll fix corporate tax. i ll have a more business friendly environment. look. let s open the dialogue here. you give me this and i promise you we will start off on the right foot. right. it is a president we see who is doing deals and getting into the nitty gritty and saying let s do this one specific thing. i want to keep these specific workers here. how can we do that? that s the kind of thing we have not seen before. do we know if trump is talking to other companies? i m sure he is. is this a sustainable economic strategy to go company to compan and convince leverage with military contracts or promise of less regulation to get them to keep jobs in the u.s. despite the economic disadvantage? that works for the workers in the one carrier plant. there was another plant down the street in indiana that is not going to stay that is, in fact, going to mexico. there is a scale issue where one person can do deals with one company, but you cannot do it for the whole economy. the other company is owned by united technology. other plants related that are moving to mexico as well. that will be the trade policy. that is the wilbur ross commerce secretary trade fix and corporate tax reform that may inventive companies. you have steve mnuchin and he became a financier in hollywood in the financial crisis. he was one of the investors who picked up indy mac. elizabeth warren strong in her criticism in steve mnuchin and donald trump in this pick. the american people are furious over what wall street has done. they don t want somebody who will come in here and say, hey, let s help wall street. what donald trump is doing is he is literally handing the keys to the treasury over to a wall street banker who helped cause the crash. there has been a lot of commentary about the number of people with goldman sachs ties to the donald trump administration. he really bashed goldman sachs and wall street when he was running. he borrowed a lot of the rhetoric of elizabeth warren and bernie sanders during the campaign. and that is what i think did a lot for him in the rustbelt states losing jobs. tapping into that anger. so on the one hand, you have him saving workers from one company. some jobs. on the other hand, you have him going straight to wall street for economic team. you know, will it matter who is negotiating nafta if they are negotiating nafta? i m not completely sure that is a compelling argument for democrats if he is doing the things that the new base of his want him to do. the jury is still out. the wealthyest cabinet in modern history. these are the people to make america great again? he wants winners. he sees these people on his team. you look at steve mnuchin and wilbur ross. they are savvy investors. he worked around the world in all kinds of companies. he knows how the system works. he has been critical of what he calls stupid and dumb trade deals in the past. you know, trump has surrounded himself with what he considers winners. those winners happen to be billionaires. the process continues. come back. get a cup of coffee. we ll talk more. north carolina police officer will not face charges leading to protests and arrests overnight on the streets of charlotte. we are updating this as early start continues. .mstud if my office becomes a plane or an airport the. .surface pro s perfect. fast and portable but also light. you don t do this 14 hours a day, 7 days a week. .if you don t feel it in your heart. throughout my career in bridal and fashion, i have drawn my inspiration from around the globe. jared s commitment to quality and craftsmanship has helped bring my designs to life. each hand set ring in the vera wang love collection is my modern interpretation of timeless classics. like all the most beautiful cities around the world, the ring should take her breath away. the vera wang love collection. and now, it s waiting for you at jared. yo.don t let sinus symptomsnd bring you down now.. get fast sinus relief with vicks sinex and get back in the game. sinex, the congestion, pressure, pain to clear your head. .medicine. tand the alzheimer sf association is going to make it happen. but we won t get there without you. visit alz.org to join the fight. 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decision not to charge officer vinson in the shooting death of keith lamont scott in september. the victim s family is vowing to fight for justice. they have support on the streets. we get more from brian todd. reporter: will and christine, some protests on the streets of charlotte. gathering to protest the d.a. decision not to file charges against officer vinson for the shooting of keith lamont scott in september. the crowds were not nearly as numerous as the ones in september that numbered in the thousands. not as many of those protesters out on wednesday night. they did walk a few blocks and the police were ferreairly aggressive to them. police being strict in their rules to keep the protesters on the sidewalks. we did witness four arrests after tussles with police. they were aggressive to keep the protesters on the sidewalks. one commander telling me they wanted to approach this and let them protest and keep them from blocking traffic. the protesters out tonight to voice displeasure with the d.a. decision not to file charges against officer vinson. the d.a. andrew murray saying all of the evidence they gathered in the investigation which lasted more than two months led them to believe officer vinson and shooting of keith lamont scott was justified. officer vinson felt threatened and his life was in danger. keith lamont scott ignored ten commands to drop his gun. the scott family claims he did not have a gun. the d.a. says he did. there were claims and counterclaims through the investigation. the decision not to file charges against officer vinson made by the d.a. today. that is what led to the protests on wednesday night. the officer in question is on administrative duty. the police say there is an internal investigation to make sure policies were n violated in the case. the family of keith lamont scott, it is unclear if they file a civil lawsuit. they say they are going to pursue justice for mr. scott. will and christine. thank you, brian. a moving tribute to the soccer club killed in a plane crash in colombia. thousands gathered in the stadium in medellin, colombia. fans chanted in the stadium celebrating the victims lives. investigators say the pilot of the charter plane told air traffic controllers he ran out of fuel. they say he desperately pleaded for permission to land before crashing. hundreds of people in tennessee don t know if their homes survived the wildfires. more than 50 people injured and seven deaths. 700 homes burned. that is the number they have so far. rain in the area is dampening the flames, but not entirely out. the fires still burning and growing concerns about mudslides because of the charred earth. it is a dangerous situation. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray is in gatlinburg. reporter: will and christine, people are waking up on the third morning not knowing if they can return to their homes and when they get there, if there will be a home. there is a lot of despair and devastation around the shelter because people have so many questions and they have been in the waiting game not knowing what is left of their belongings. most people left with the clothes on their backs. they are getting plenty of food and items they need. there is a medical clinic as well. it has been a hard couple days for the people in this area. there is no word when they will return home. that is due to the fact wildfires are still burning. we have had a lot of rain. you would not imagine the wildfires are still burning. they are. with the storms come strong winds and we have cloud-to-ground lightning. that has counteracted the benefit that the rain brought. the rain is helping contain the fires and it is helping the firefighters in the big picture. we talked to a crew that went to the areas that were burned and they said even though the structures are not on fire, you can feel the heat under your feet. the ground is still smoldering. so it does give you a sense of how dry and parched this area is. of course, 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(bing) our mission is to produce for african women as they try to build their businesses and careers. my name is yasmin belo-osagie and i m a co-founder at she leads africa. i definitely could not do my job without technology. this windows 10 device, the touchscreen allows you to kind of pinpoint what you re talking about. which makes communication much easier and faster than the old mac that i used to use. you can configure it in so many different ways, it just, i don t know, it feels really cool. i feel like i m in the future. happening today. donald trump heads to the plant where he just saved about 1,000 jobs. this morning, questions about the deal and those incentives that helped make it happen. happening now. a neighborhood on lockdown. a gunman who killed a police officer barricaded inside a home. this standoff happening now stretching deep into the night. and desperate in tennessee as thousands still wait to learn if their homes are gone. welcome back to early start. i m will ripley in for john berman. good to see you. i m christine romans. 31 minutes after the hour. up first, donald trump ready for a hero s welcome in indiana along with mike pence. pence and unknown incentives were key to convincing carrier to keep 1,000 jobs in the state instead of exporting them to mexico. we get more from jim acosta. reporter: will and christine, donald trump will take a victory lap of sorts later today when he tours a carrier factory in indiana. the same factory he railed during the campaign for shipping jobs to mexico. donald trump and mike pence say they are keeping jobs in the u.s. steve mnuchin says this is donald trump making good on the promise. the carrier deal, it is terrific. the president-elect and vice president-elect picked up the phone and called the ceo of united technologies and said we want to keep jobs here. i can t remember the last time a president did that. reporter: the transition is not offering details on the carrier deal. later today, trump will appear in ohio. his staff is calling it part of the thank you tour as being the next president. jim acosta in new york. still many things we don t know about the carrier deal. deals like this, the devil is in the details. the president-elect s transition team and carrier are keeping quiet for now on the incentives and financial considerations to help save the jobs. as cnn s martin savage reports, trump awaiting a hero s welcome in indianapolis, but questions. reporter: good morning, will and christine. many are looking forward to the visit of trump. most carrier employees who want to express thanks. they also have a lot of questions. it is not that they are not grateful. they are. there are 1,400 jobs here and 1,000 are only talked about being saved. that means several hundred people fear it is their job that will be lost. until they hear the details, we will continue to have the fears. other concerns such as will they cut back on wages and how long is carrier willing to stay? they don t have the answers. there are other people who want to find out more about just what is the deal that got carrier to change its mind. it has been suggested that carrier got more incentives from the state of indiana. remember in february when carrier said it was leaving, the state tried very hard to keep the company here. and yet was unsuccessful. it seems it has to be more than just state incentives. it has been suggested that the president-elect said he could bring about some deal by reducing the corporate tax code or maybe reducing federal regulations. there are still some, especially employees of carrier, suggest that united technology, the parent company of carrier, began to worry because they do $5 billion of defense contracts every year, those contracts could be harmed if they moved carrier to mexico. will and christine. thank you, martin. one of the first to endorse donald trump, sarah palin, playing up reports she is under consideration for the secretary of veterans affairs. she posted a video on her facebook account on her ideas for fixing the v.a. abc news says trump s transition team is considering sarah palin. palin has made the transition team aware of her desire to serve the president-elect. donald trump has narrowed the field to three finalists in the director of national intelligence. retiring indiana senator dan coats is getting consideration. he is competing with fran townsend and admiral michael rogers who is head of u.s. cyber command. to the money team. after the nomination of treasury secretary, steve mnuchin unveiled his most important goal. our first priority is going to be the tax plan and the tax plan has both the corporate aspects to it. lowering corporate taxes to make u.s. companies the most competitive in the world. making sure we repatriate. we will have the most significant middle income tax cut since reagan. this is something companies have wanted for years now. mnuchin said wealthy americans will not be getting across the board tax cuts. that is a departure from what donald trump said on the campaign trail. expect negotiations there. mnuchin is one of three people tapped from goldman sachs. he became a financier in hollywood after being at goldman sachs. and gary cohn is under consideration for office of management and budget. and trump s chief strategist steve bannon also worked at goldman sachs in the 1980s. during the campaign, goldman sachs was a dirty word for trump and hillary clinton. wall street elites succeeding while the american middle class struggled. very smart people working there. obviously, donald trump is tapping several for advice. let s go live to washington and bring in zachary wolf. how is this all playing out in d.c.? thinking about goldman sachs. people who work at the firm are highly qualified and on the sidelines for the great recession. they know how the system works and how to work the system. having people from goldman sachs in the highest levels of government is nothing new. administrations, democrat and republican, have had people from goldman sachs. treasury secretaries and more for decades. this is not a new thing. i guess that is the switch here. trump promised something totally new. i don t think it is out of bounds for him to pick people from wall street even though he railed against wall street so much on the campaign trail and borrowed a lot of that rhetoric even from people like bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. these are the people that he knows. you know, he is going to be talking to people who he thinks can do deals. we see it can carrier thing. he wants to actually kind of change the way things are done. he will look at the business world where he think it is is more if we ceffective. since you brought up carrier, i want to read the statement. the incentives were important to the agreement. this in no way dpliminishes our belief in the benefits of free trade and that forces the globalization which will continue to require solutions for the long-term competitiveness of the united states. this is a big win for him and what he promised to do. you hear this company talking about requiring solutions. it cannot be sustainable to go company by company and twist arms to keep jobs in the u.s. the fact that the senior rustbelt worker will make $25 an hour hour. that is close to the daily wages of someone in mexico. it will be up to wilbur ross and steve mnuchin to redo trade deals and redo deals so the u.s. workers are more competitive. we heard wilbur ross say step one is nafta. that is the very controversial trade deal that transformed the u.s. economy under the clinton administration. it was another big deal during the campaign. he will talk about opening it up. let s change it and fix it. you know, see what we do. that is the thing, first of all for a republican to say that, and second of all, nafta is just sitting there for so long. you know, contributing to the economy. these will be huge changes in the way business is done. what s going on with the thank you tour? considering there are still so many top posts to be filled and now it is appearances and huge crowds. the stuff the president-elect loves. it is a unique thing. not something we have seen before. he hasn t been talking to us in the press that much. an interview here and there. hasn t done a press conference. he will go out. of he clearly seems to miss the electricity of the campaign trail and getting out there. he will get another taste of that with this. listen a little bit. wall street is comfortable with the people that donald trump has chosen so far. record highs for stocks. they are expecting that he will cut taxes. they are expecting some infrastructure or regulations rolling back. that is something small business likes. senator elizabeth warren is furious about the mnuchin pick and direction of the cabinet. listen to her. he promised when he was running for president that he would break the connection between wall street and this congress. he said he was going to separate that from the government. no more revolving door. he wasn t going to do that sort of thing. what does he do? he turns around and picks a guy who had actually been one of the people who helped do all of those lousy mortgages that not only broke the economy, but broke millions of families. so will she and other democrats work with donald trump on issues they agree with on infrastructure and development? those projects? that s the big question. yes. i think they will work with him on infrastructure. that is something they want to do. chuck schumer said he will work with trump on that. in particular. in other things, democrats will stand in the way of just about everything that trump wants to do. they will disagree with it. that s their role. no surprise senator warren with sharp words for donald trump. she has for months, frankly. the question is what happens in terms of policy. zach, nice to see you. take it easy. thanks. first day of december. this just in to cnn. vladimir putin talking about the trump administration. just moments ago. putin said russia is ready for cooperation with the american leadership. he says the u.s. and russia have a joint responsibility for security. he hopes russia works with washington in fighting terror. putin made the remarks in the address of two chambers of the russian parliament. a lot of scrutiny with what russia is doing in syria and prove indicativocations in ukra. fascinating. police officer shot and killed in tacoma, washington. right now, the gunman apparently keeping police at bay. we are following the latest on this standoff which continues right now. we are following breaking news from tacoma, washington. a police officer shot and killed and the bearricaded suspect in standoff. police were responding to a domestic violence dispute at the home. and did not make it.ough surgery the authorities describe the scene as active. you see the police presence. there are reports of gunfire from inside the home. we are monitoring and we will br bring you details. protests in charlotte, north carolina after the d.a. decision not to charge officer vinson in the shooting of keith lamont scott. we get more from cnn s brian todd. reporter: will and christine. protests on the streets of charlotte gathering to protest the d.a. decision not to file charges against officer vinson for the shooting of keith lamont scott in september. the crowds late wednesday night were not nearly as numerous as the ones in september that numbered in the thousands. not nearly as many protesters out on wednesday night. they did walk a few blocks and the police were fairly aggressive. police really being strict in their rule to keep the protesters on the sidewalks. we did witness four arrests after tussles with police as they were aggressive to try to keep the protesters on the sidewalks. one police commander telling me they wanted to approach this strategically and let them protest, but keep them from blocking traffic. proper evidetesters out to voic displeasure of the d.a. not to file charges against officer vinson. the d.a. andrew murray saying all of the evidence they gathered in the investigation which lasted more than two mont led them to believe that officer vinson, shooting of keith lamont scott was justified. that officer vinson felt threatened. his life was in danger. that keith lamont scott ignored ten different commands from police to drop his gun. the family said he did not have a gun. the d.a. says he did. there were claims and counterclaims through the investigation. the decision not to file charges against officer vinson made by the d.a. today. that s what led to the protests on wednesday night. the officer in question is on administrative duty. police tell us there is an internal investigation to make sure that policies were not violated in the case. the family of keith lamont scott, it is unclear if they will file a civil lawsuit or not. they will still pursue justice for mr. shcott. will and christine. thank you, brian. one tiny lifestyle change could make you more successful. jeff bezos and arianna huffington. they have one thing in common and it makes them prosperous. such a tease. we will tell you after the break. 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(vo) get the best deals and the best network, only on verizon. the number of people killed and devastation continuing to rise in tennessee where wildfires are now blamed for at least 7 deaths and more than 50 people injured so far. rain in the areas is dampening the flames, but they are not entirely out. there are growing concerns of mudslides. we get more from cnn s jennifer gray. reporter: will and christine, people are waking up at the v evacuation center not knowing if their homes are still standing. there is a lot of despair and devastation around the shelter because people have so many questions and they are in the waiting game not knowing what is left of their belongings. most people left with the clothes on their backs. they are getting plenty of foot a food and items with medical clinic as well. it is a hard couple of days. there is no word on when they will return home and a lot of that is due to the fact there are still wildfires burning. if you can believe it. we have had a lot of rain. you would not imagine the wildfires burning. they are because with the storms come very strong winds. we had cloud-to-ground lightning and that has counteracted the little bit of the benefits the rain has brought. the rain is helping contain the fires and it is helping the firefighters in the big picture. we talked to a crew that went up to the areas that were burned and they said even though the structures are not on fire, you can feel the heat under your feet. the ground is still smoldering. it gives you a sense of how dry and parched this area is. crews will be out. fema is expected to come to offer assistance. first responders and firefighters coming to the gatlinburg area to lend a happenehand. guys. jennifer gray in gatlinburg. the north carolina governor s race still not decided. the state board of elections offering a partial recount in durham county. republicans are alleging voting irregularitie irregularities. pat mccrory lost to roy cooper by 10,000 votes. arianna huffington launched a new company focused on corporate wellness. it launches this week. its goal to help workers unplug and recharge and work smarter. make more money for your company. i sat down with huffington to ask her how this benefits all professionals from entry level to ceos. do you have a message to those type a people watching my show come morning at 5:00? you want to tell them to go back to sleep? it is best to follow christine s advice. christine goes to sleep at 8:00 p.m. if you have to get up so early, try and go to sleep as early as you can. create a ritual. transition to sleep to make it easy. charge your phone outside your bedroom. have a hot shower or bath to disconnect from your day so you are able to really go to sleep early. then as soon as you can, have a nap. winston church will power napped. power napping is an amazing productivity tool if you have to get up really early and you didn t get enough sleep. he also had cigars and a lot of booze. we will leave that aside. i don t recommend that. i don t either. the web site launched yesterday with interviews with jeff bezos and cheryl sasharyl . you need a lot of sleep. this company has partnerships with uber and jpmorgan chase. she talked about the political climate. she changed her career track at the moment when everything was changing in politics. such a political junkie. everyone needs to look inward and listen. i like her advice about taking power naps. i thought i was a slacker because i take a nap. that is early start. i m christine romans. i m will ripley. president-elect heading out for a hero s welcome today. new day has the latest. a victory lap for donald trump. a great first win without taking the job. you have never seen serious adults suck up at the rate that mitt romney is sucking up. donald trump promised he would not have a government that is going to work for wall street. the president-elect announcing he will leave his business completely. talking about deals. talking about government. that s a problem. officer vinson acted lawfully when he shot mr. scott. no peace. no justice. okay to shoot first and ask questions later. this is new day with chris cuomo and alisyn camerota. good morning. welcome to new day. it is thursday, december 1st. 6:00 in up first, president-elect set for a victory lap. he will travel to indiana to tout a deal to keep more jobs in america. he will deliver on that campaign promise, he says. he will then kick off a thank you tour holding a campaign-style rally in ohio. all this as trump is narrowing the field for. the inauguration now just 50 days away. we have this all covered for you let s begin with jessica snider this morning outside trump tower with this morning s drama. jessica? today it is a return to the rallies that propelled donald trump to an election win. he will start his day off here at trump tower before making his way to indiana and ohio to thank those voters who handed him a victory. president-elect donald trump heading back into campaign mode embarking on a thank you tour in swing state that won him the white house. trump will hold a rally in cincinnati tonight, after taking a victory lap in indiana, celebrating a deal with carrier to keep at least 1,000 manufacturing jobs from moving to mexico. carrier offering limited details on terms of the deal, receiving unspecified incentives from the state, run by trump s vp mike pence. th

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this is the cbs evening news with scott pelley. pelley: this is our western edition. today, donald trump served notice to china with a phone call that beijing is likely to see as a grave offense. mr. trump spoke with the president of taiwan, the island nation that rebelled against the communist mainland after world war ii. reunification is not just beijing policy. it is an obsession. and mr. trump s phone call may be seen as support for taiwan independence, a raw nerve for china s leadership. here s chief white house correspondent major garrett. reporter: no u.s. president-elect has spoken with the taiwanese head of state since diplomatic ties were severed in 1979. mr. trump s transition team said: and president tsai ing-wen congratulated president-elect trump on his victory. china considers taiwan part of its territory, and since 1972, the u.s. government has recognized this so-called one- china policy. bonnie glaser is an expert on u.s.-china relations. so the notion that the united states, and the incoming president u.s., might be supporting a pro- independence agenda will be very, very worrisome to china and it will cause some problems in the u.s.- china relationship, potentially. reporter: during the campaign, mr. trump accused china of waging economic war on the u.s. through currency manipulation. we can t continue to allow china to rape our country and that s what they re doing. reporter: but he also promised better relations with the communist government. i have a great relationship with china. i ve made a lot of money dealing with china. china is terrific. reporter: since the election, mr. trump has frequently ignored briefing opportunities from the state department before speaking with world leaders. white house press secretary josh earnest said u.s. diplomats are ready to offer mr. trump advice. hopefully, he ll take it. reporter: earlier this week, the pakistani government said that in a call with its prime minister nawaz sharif, mr. trump called him a terrific guy, promised to visit the country. that caused real concern, scott, ott,g u.s. allies, india and afghanistan. pelley: major garrett in washington. major, thank you. well, this presidential campaign that most folks were glad to see end suddenly re-erupted last night at a post-election forum at the kennedy school at harvard. here s nancy cordes. reporter: 16 months of tension boiled over thursday in a conference room at harvard s kennedy school. clinton communications director, jennifer palmieri, argued there were some stains on the trump team s victory. that s just crap. reporter: trump campaign manager kellyanne conway was sitting right across from her. so you guys guys. reporter: clinton media strategist mandy grunwald had this backhanded compliment for team trump. reporter: trump aides, she argued, had flooded the web with fake stories about clinton. reporter: conway shrugged off the criticism on cbs this morning. obviously some of these feelings are still raw. i think most people were not prepared for donald trump to become the next president of the united states. reporter: this panel was meant to serve as a first draft of campaign history. apparently, history will show, scott, that both sides were still nursing some serious grievances three weeks after election day. pelley: nancy cordes, thanks. near new orleans today, authorities confirmed that former n.f.l. running back joe mcknight was killed yesterday in an act of road rage. he was 28 and unarmed. the gunman handed over his weapon as he was taken into custody but was later released with no charges so far. omar villafranca is there. reporter: two people frantically tried and failed to save joe mcknight s life with c.p.r. after he was shot three times in a busy intersection in suburban new orleans. 54-year-old ronald gasser waited for police to show up and admitted shooting mcknight. jefferson parish sheriff newell normand: mr. gasser did not stand over mr. mcknight and fire shots into him. mr. gasser was in his vehicle when he fired three shots. reporter: gasser was questioned and released a few hours later without being charged. sheriff normand wouldn t say exactly why but said there were, statutes that provide defenses for certain crimes. gasser s release outraged local activists, including local n.a.a.c.p. president gaylor spiller. you think he should still be in sheriff s custody? he should be in jail now. he shouldn t be free. if he was if he was a black man, a man of color, we all know that we see this every day on news he would not. reporter: gasser could have his day in court. scott, sheriff investigators are still talking to the d.a. about possible charges. pelley: omar villafranca, thanks. hiring is solid, and the unemployment rate has fallen. employers added 178,000 jobs in november. the unemployment rate in the obama years has dropped from 10% in 2009 to the 4.6% announced today. that is the longest streak of hiring since world war ii. but the unemployment rate dropped this time in part because of the high number of men who are out of work and stopped looking, so they re not counted in the labor pool anymore. along with jobs, the housing market is back, and a new study shows prices are where they were before the bubble burst in 2008. here s don dahler. two master suites. reporter: eric rothenberg has been looking for a home in the seattle area for past six months. it s great. i love the high ceilings. reporter: he says every time he s ready to bid on a home, there are five buyers ahead of him. i am prepared to get into a bidding war, but there s going to be a point where it s going to top out, where i m going to have to walk away. reporter: seattle is one of the hottest real estate markets in the country. in 2012, the median home price fell to $308,000 after the housing bubble. now it s $550,000, a 78% increase. this is the first master suite. reporter: real estate agent michael doyle: i ve gotten 10, 12 offers on homes. we ve got a very limited supply. so job growth plus limited supply have created the environment that we re in. reporter: since the housing crash in 2007, u.s. home prices have slowly rebounded. the average home price for september crept above pre- recession levels by .1%. nationally, over the past year, prices soared 5.5%. while the housing market is strengthening, homeownership is still at a five-decade low. in sacramento, california, buyers who bought before the crash welcomed the rising prices. homeowner dan tackett: it s great, you know, we re back up to where we paid, maybe a little bit above. and, you know, it s good good for the economy. reporter: david blitzer is with case-shiller national home price index. would you say in general is this good news or is this is there something for us to be concerned about in all of this? i think it s generally good news. one reason is it makes people feel a little more wealthy, and a little more confident about the economy. reporter: on the flip side, lenders are still reluctant to grant mortgages to many qualified lower income buyers. scott, the cost of houses is now rising much faster than incomes. pelley: don dahler, thanks. overseas, a far-right candidate for president of austria hopes to duplicate what donald trump did. his people even flew here to talk strategy with trump advisers. the election sunday is a rerun of a vote that was held in may. seth doane has our story from vienna. reporter: norbert hofer s right-wing freedom party narrowly lost last may. founded by a former nazi officer, the party campaigned hard on an anti-immigrant platform. that hasn t changed, but what has is the u.s. election. the trump factor is here. reporter: political commentator thomas hofer says trump s win has emboldened austria s right wing. you see huge parallels. the wall in the southern border is well and alive here in austria as an issue. anti-immigrant message. anti-establishment message. reporter: there are overlapping tactics, too, including fake news spread online. here it was a phony diagnosis of cancer. it s about undermining not only undermining the message of the other side. it s also, you know, spreading news, fake news. reporter: back in may, we went on a campaign trail with freedom party boss wolfgang jung and got a taste of his anti- muslim rhetoric. ep i don t want the mosque here. reporter: you don t want a mosque here. yes. reporter: today, jung told us momentum is on their side. after trump s surprise win your candidate said, hey, we can do this, too. yes, and i hope so. reporter: this is not just about austria, scott. the far right in france is watching this election, as is the country that took in the most refugees, germany, where chancellor angela merkel is facing a growing threat from an ultranationalist anti-immigrant party. pelley: seth doane in vienna for us. seth, thank you. in syria, the battle for aleppo is increasingly one sided. government forces backed by russia are flattening entire neighborhoods held by rebels, and more than 200,000 civilians are trapped. debora patta is in aleppo. reporter: in the bombed out shells of buildings in hanano, comfort is measured in small doses. families huddle around fires for warmth. five days ago, this neighborhood in aleppo was in rebel hands. but after days of bombing, it s been retaken by the syrian military. these children have grown up in this war. 13-year-old amal was telling me how she stopped going to school two years ago when a shell landed in the distance. she barely flinched. did you hear that explosion now? it s all too familiar to even worry about. on a bus bound for another newly reclaimed neighborhood, hanan mahmoud sobs quietly as she clutches her 14-month-old daughter. her husband has just been led away by the syrian military on suspicion of being a draft dodger. after five days in a shelter, everyone is desperate to get back home. but there s not much left of the neighborhood. with the rebels gone, at least they won t suffer the daily bombings from the syrian military. i was terrified all the time, she told us. but that relief has come at a terrible cost. debora patta, cbs news, aleppo. pelley: coming up next on the cbs evening news, how could the pilot let the jet carrying a soccer team run out of fuel? and later, a teenager fires a shot in school, but two surprising heroes head off a tragedy. tragedy. what is scary? pneumococcal pneumonia. it s a serious disease. my doctor said the risk is greater now that i m over 50! yeah.ya-ha. just one dose of the prevnar 13® vaccine can help protect you from pneumococcal pneumonia- an illness that can cause coughing, chest pain, difficulty breathing, and may even put you in the hospital. prevnar 13® is approved for adults 18 and older to help prevent infections from 13 strains of the bacteria that cause pneumococcal pneumonia. you should not receive prevnar 13® if you have had a severe allergic reaction to the vaccine or its ingredients. if you have a weakened immune system, you may have a lower response to the vaccine. the most common side effects were pain, redness, and swelling at the injection site, limited arm movement, fatigue, headache, muscle pain, joint pain, less appetite, vomiting, fever, chills, and rash. get this one done! ask about prevnar 13® at your next visit to your doctor s office or pharmacy. i m bushed! i ve been on my feel alyea me too. excuse me.coming through! ride the gel wave of comfort with dr. scholls massaging gel insoles. they re proven to give you comfort. which helps you feel more energized .all day long. i want what he has. hair is delightfully fragrancedl with notes of moroccan rose and the freshness of springtime unforgettable, wherever you go the scents you can t forget. from herbal essences, blooming now! feel free to be yourself all day.. just switch from denture paste to sea-bond denture adhesive seals. holds stronger than the leading paste all day. without the ooze. feel secure. be yourself. with stronger, clean sea-bond. two words: it heals.e different? 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this captain did not declare an emergency at any point until he was flamed out. reporter: bruce rogers, a captain for a u.s. carrier, says the pilot waited too long to call for help. that airplane did enter a holding pattern. at that point, when they looked at their fuel, they could have easily gone on the radio, declared mayday, got priority handling to the airport and landed that airplane on the runway. reporter: investigators are looking into whether the airline cut corners on safety. scott, already, several high- ranking aviation officials have been suspended. pelley: jeff pegues for us tonight. jeff, thank you. coming up next, it was a school tragedy in the making until two parents stepped in. jeff, thank you. coming up next, it was a school tragedy in the making until two parents stepped in. a bathroom? cialis for daily use is approved to treat both erectile dysfunction and the urinary symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently, day or night. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medicines, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take cialis if you take nitrates for chest pain, or adempas for pulmonary hypertension, as it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. do not drink alcohol in excess. side effects may include headache, upset stomach, delayed backache or muscle ache. to avoid long-term injury, get medical help right away for an erection lasting more than four hours. if you have any sudden decrease or loss in hearing or vision, or any symptoms of an allergic reaction, stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. ask your doctor about cialis and a $200 savings card. stop taking cialis and get medical help right away. youthat s why you drink ensure. sidelined. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing. .what you love. ensure. always be you. .nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! here s pepto bismol! ah. nausea, heartburn, indigestion, upset stomach, diarrhea! and you re talking to youro doctor about your medication. this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira helping me go further. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira has been clinically studied for over 18 years. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. ready for a new chapter? 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jourdan duncan says he was minding his own business. and i noticed that it was a police car, and i was like, oh, okay, i m not going to move. i don t want him to think i have any weapons. reporter: jourdan explained to the officer that he was just walking home from work. there was no crime, the kid didn t need help. by all rights, officer keffer could have, and many officers would have, just left him alone. but keffer isn t that kind of cop. he gave jourdan a ride, and more importantly, he gave him a listen. what struck you? just his his drive, his work ethic. and to me, that speaks volumes. reporter: as keffer took jourdan from where he works on the line here at pro-form laboratories, he started to really appreciate the young man sitting next to him because this wasn t just a trip around the block. this was a seven-mile trek, a two-and-a-half-hour walk to jourdan s house, a whole town away, in vallejo, california. and he said, you re walking? i said, yeah, i m walking. not many 18-year-olds you meet have that kind of mindset. reporter: no. they don t even want to walk down to the store let alone walk seven miles just to get to work. reporter: jourdan said he started walking to work after his car broke down last may. he says people have offered him rides but he wants to make it on his own. and when keffer heard that, he had heard enough. he immediately made plans to visit jourdan again. he said, hey, jourdan, you remember me, right? i was like reporter: how could you not. how could i not. i said, jourdan, you re not in trouble. i said, we just want to give you something. to ease his commute, keffer got the police association to buy jourdan a new bike. i was just looking at the bike like this bike is going to be cherished. reporter: keffer raised an additional $38,000 to help him buy a car and pursue his career goal, which is to be a police officer. it s an honorable job. reporter: jourdan even got to ride along on a shift. i wanted to show him what law enforcement does. reporter: you re not going to shake this kid now. no. reporter: he s yours. he s mine, yeah. reporter: what started with a tense encounter may end with a perfect partnership. steve hartman, on the road, benicia, california. pelley: and that s the cbs evening news for tonight. for all of us at cbs news all around the world, i m scott pelley. and i ll see you sunday on 60 minutes with the speaker of the house. good night. captioning sponsored by cbs captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org colorful language to condemn hate. good evening, i a vigilante message causing doubling takes on bart. the mystery posters using colorful language to condemn hate. good evening. the rogue signs started popping up on trains today. new at 6:00, kpix 5 s da lin is live at west oakland getting reaction to this unofficial campaign. da. reporter: those signs are getting a lot of support from the bart passengers out here. some people want some bart passengers to know racism, sexism are not a good idea on the bart system so they made some homemade signs and posted them on the trains this morning. it looks like an official bart sign with a logo on top telling passengers, racism, sexism, islam phobia. homophobia, transphone yeah, xenophobia are prohibited in the bart system at all times. it finishes with the word i can t say on tv so i ll paraphrase it. get your stuff together. aren t we all blunt right now? i mean, we are at a time when we are blunt. there s so many things right now so get your [ censored ] together is not so mean at this current situation. reporter: someone posted the signs after a confrontation on bart went viral online. a woman was riding home from work when a passenger accused her of being a terrorist. 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artan as the attacker. a u.s. official telling cnn artan was a legal permanent resident originally from somalia who came to the u.s. via pakistan. authorities now look into posts he made on his facebook page, expressing grievances about crimes against muslims, posted moments before the attack, saying, quote, i m sick and tired of seeing my fellow muslim brothers and sisters being killed and tortured, and uh can t take it anymore. back in august, osu s campus newspaper quoted artan in a profile, saying he was scared to pray in the open as a muslim. investigators are looking into possible motives for the attack and say they cannot rule out terrorism. we re always aware that s a potential. we re going to continue to look at that. reporter: police say just before 10:00 a.m. monday morning, artan deliberately jumped a curb, ramming a car into a group of pedestrians. he exits the vehicle and used a butcher knife to start cutting pedestrians. reporter: eyewitnesses desperately calling 911. a guy ran a car through a crowd of students. he did it purposely. i m at ohio state right outside. a guy crashed his car into a bunch of people. reporter: a minute into the attack, osu police officer alan horujko arrived on the scene, confronting a knife-wielding artan, shooting him three times, killing him. the officer engaged the suspect and fired shots and used deadly force to stop the threat. reporter: 11 people wounded in the attack, all are expected to survive. as the attack unfolded, students barricaded doorways to avoid becoming a victim. the campus on lock dayne for an hour and a half. ohio state will be stronger, having come through this. reporter: now, classes resume today here. students still shaken up, attending a vigil late yesterday. as for the somali community, i ve been in contact with both community leaders here and in minnesota as well. they tell me, chris, they re very worried about possible retaliation against that community. rosa, thank you very much. so the obvious question is whether or not this was a terror attack. let s discuss with cnn counterterrorism analyst phil mudd and tom fuentes. gentlemen, thank you for being with us. phil, you say that common sense isn t always the best guide. you look at a situation like this, somali born u.s. resident. he s got the facebook post that shows some sympathies to the absurd absurd, to hateful, terroristic type rhetoric. you say don t jump to conclusions. i often find you have mixed motivations. this was an 18-year-old. he had just transferred schools. we don t understand the issues he had immigrating. one of the difficulties is looking at what he s claiming and comparing it to the rest of his life, saying is that the only thing that motivated him. last thing, chris. you have a singleton, you don t have communications, e-mail, text with somebody else. understanding what s going in his mind without any trail that will allow you to get into that mind set is pretty difficult. so you re saying singleton as a trade term of a one-off a loner. so tom, where s the line for you? again, when people look at this and see what he was writing about and what he did and where he s from, and they say he s a terrorist. well, right now, chris, we re going by the one posting that he did on facebook right before the attack. i would like to see more r of the communications, what other websites was he searching when they examined his computers, his phone records, who else was he in contact with, talks with class mates to see who he may have been discussing these grievances with and expressing a desire possibly to commit a terrorist act or just that had he grievances and was deranged in not being able to cope with the stresses of his college career. there had been something written about tit, right. he said he was worried about praying on campus, there was a fear of intimidation. i wanted to pray in the open, but i was scared with everything going on in the media. i m a muslim. what does this mean to you, phil? not much yet. look at this. if you re going to think of this person as a well-considered, trained terrorist who was motivated through the course of months or years because he was frustrated about integration. looks at facebook postings, buys himself a truck, a couple weapons, finds a mace where people are gathering. ohio state and michigan on saturday. instead, you have an impulse act. gets a knife, a small car. something inside that one person s brain led him to do this. why do i care in terms of the subtlety of your analysis as opposed to saying isis just put out some bs briefing about how to use a knife to attack the nonbelievers? this kid picked up on it, had hate in his heart. he s a terrorist, period. why have this sophisticated analysis? i don t understand it either. maybe there s something we can learn. does he have a pattern of activity looking at websites? let me take you inside the room when i was at the agency or the bureau. we don t care when we re doing these case inside the room. it s the american public in this polarized political atmosphere where people say you have to call them a terrorist or not. those of us investigating, why would i care? he killed people. my first question is who. are there other people involved or co-conspirators? this stuff about motivations is interesting. r tom, it does seem to fall in line with what isis had been trying to motivate in the u.s., which is we don t want to have to plan these things for you. just remember, go out there and kill infidels any way that you can so that we re seeing more lone wolves that don t have the more ordinary chain of communication in their planning. no, that s true. that is something they ve been putting out now for over two years of, you know, use your car, use a knife, use a hammer, whatever you have at your disposal, if you don t have a firearm or do not know how to construct an explosive device. i would agree with phil. let s get a little more information. we should have it pretty soon when we get the feedback what s about on his computer and who he s been talking to and how this grievance came about. i think what phil said about football game is important. if this was a planned, is isis-driven or terrorist inspired act, you have 100,000 people attending a football game two days before the attack. why not do it then? similar to san bernardino. they attack 40 people at a luncheon when they could have attacked peep at rose parade and rose bowl game a matter of a week or two earlier. it sounds more hike an impulsive act that just occurred to him that morning to go ahead and do that. all right. gentlemen, thank you very much for helping us understand what is almost impossible to understand for someone thinking normally. alisyn? we do have breaking news to get to now. 76 people killed after a charter plane carrying a brazilian soccer team crashes on its way from bolivia to colombia. miraculously, rescuers have pulled five survivors from the crash site. here is video. this is the chapecoense soccer team. they just posted this on their facebook page four days ago. you can see them celebrating a win, continuing their cinderella run to the final of a press attention to south american tournament. the team now boarding the plane, on their way to that final game. this is the video of them at the airport. the pilot declared an emergency, reporting an electrical failure. they say moments later, the aircraft went down 22 miles from the airport in the city of medellin. authorities say a crew member and two athletes are among the survivors. that is a tricky name. i have a soccer player in the family. so the chapecoense team, they are well known there. they ve become kind of local heroes. so to have the whole team you know, we did hear there are a couple survivors. again, this information is raw. this happened overnight. this is a tough area to access. certain things may change. but to lose a huge group like that is going to be hard for that community. oh, it s heartbreaking. also the idea that people survived that when you look at the aftermath. there are five survivors this morning. so we need to get a lot more details about what happened there. let s turn to the trump transition. president-elect donald trump meeting with mitt romney tonight for dinner. the question is why. members of the transitionvaging. we re told there is progress in this relationship and there may with pick announcements coming. trump has decided on a vocal critic of obamacare to be the next secretary of health and human services. with the latest, cnn s sarah murray live in washington. what do we know? reporter: good morning, chris. it s going to be a double whammy on health care announcements this morning, an indication donald trump is moving ahead. we re expecting him to name tom price as hhs secretary but also seema verma is going to be donald trump s pick as administrator for the center of medicare and medicaid services. even though he s moving forward on some of these announcements, still wrinkles when it comes to other big ones, like secretary of state. donald trump is barrelling ahead with another round of cabinet picks today. sources say he s slated to name georgia congressman tom price, a fierce critic of obamacare, to lead the department of health and human services. the most important thing that the american people understand and appreciate is that it s destructive to their health care. reporter: and after this teaser from vice president-elect mike pence monday evening a number of very important announcements tomorrow. reporter: more announcements could be in the pipeline today. but on one of the thornest issues, who will fill the coveted position of secretary of state, it appears trump is still pondering his options. the president-elect is slated to dine with mitt romney tonight, a sign he s still in the running for the job, in spite of the protest of some of trump s top aides. the number of people who feel betrayed to think that a governor romney would get the most prominent cabinet post after he went so far out of his way to hurt donald trump. reporter: adding to the intrigue, trump plans to sit down with another candidate for the role of the nation s top diplomat today, senate foreign relations committee chairman bob co corker. after meeting with david petraeus on monday, trump tweeted he was very impressed. very good conversation. we ll see where it goes from here. reporter: but petraeus, who s in the running for a variety of national security and defense slots, could be a problematic pick. while trump b continually attacked hillary clinton on the campaign trail for her handling of classified information she deleted the e-mails. she has to go to jail. reporter: petraeus comes with his own baggage. he stepped down in 2012 as cia director amid fallout from an extramarital affair and was convicted of a misdemeanor for sharing classified information with his mistress. he s currently on probation in that case. now in a latest chapter of donald trump is not going to change just because he s the president-elect, he spent last night going after journalists. this time it was cnn s own jeff zeleny, who was reporting on the fact there s really no evidence to back up trump s claim that there was millions of people who have voted illegally. chris and alisyn, it s worth noting that donald trump s on transition officials could not cite evidence back up this claim. neither can scores of secretaries of state across the country. we ll be talking about this more in the program. thank you for that. , it s hard to justify because it s a lie. there weren t millions of people who voted illegally. they re citing bogus studies. this is hopefully part of the learning curve. you screw up, move on. they re in the double down business there, and it s going to hurt over time. up next, more on the trump transition and the decision we expect to see today. and of course, donald trump facing pushback from both sides of the aisle over those claims that millions of people voted illegally. that s next. fast and portable but also light. you don t do this 14 hours a day, 7 days a week. .if you don t feel it in your heart. r president-elect donald trump continuing his false chams about millions of illegal votes in this presidential election. well, now democrats and republicans are rebuking these unprecedented commentingss from incoming president. we have washington post reporter abby philip, cnn political commentator errol lewis, and cnn contributor also with the washington examiner and new york post, se llena zito. great to have you here at cnn with us and here on new day. for our viewers, everybody should know that you are the reporter who coined the now-famous expression that trump s supporters took him seriously and not literally by the media took him literally but not seriously. do you think we re all trying to figure out in terms of his claim that there were millions of people who voted illegally is an example of that? exactly. he does not use words in the same we re used to. they massage them, politicians do, but reporters, we make sure everything is great, use our ap stylebook, fact check everything. and he does not use words the way that we do. and the other thing is we have to look at it through viewers eyes. viewers are also the same way. they don t use words the way politicians do. they re also sort of tired of these perfectly massaged messages that they know went through like a factory of people and mind so that when it s delivered with a smile, it creates this great moment for politician. that s part of his appeal. absolutely. and he is the author of his own style and entitled to his own messaging. no question about that. but he s not entitled to his own facts. what we re dealing with here, errol, is fact. the only way this is not a lie, what he s saying, because test certainly a lie to say millions voted illegally in this country. the only way it s not a lie for trump is if he s relying on somebody else that he decides to believe. even if it s a conspiracy theorist. but there s just nothing to this idea. so you re seeing republicans and democrats running away from this and saying it s not true. he s got to move on. this didn t happen. it couldn t be more cheer. that s right. the top layer of this cake that you ve described is he does it so often that at some point you have to decide either we re not going to report on the latest lie, the complete fabrication that has no basis in any fact, not even anything that was told to him, so it s not even in good faith. we have to report on it over and over and over again or just ignore. dangerous to ignore. well, ignoring or down play it, which is something of an option. there were stories that ronald reagan told that were clearly untrue. he had all kinds of fables about welfare queens. he wants to say he hates the welfare system. he s not making any specific claim that anybody s ever going to be able to track down, and it s a west of time to pretend otherwise. i think we re reaching that point with some of these trump claims. he ll make up something every day if we re going to chase that rabbit into the field. it might be better to say, look, once again, he has said something that s not true. now we have a big government we have to put together and a big nation to take care of. let s focus on the policy. this is exactly the change for journalists. how much time are we going to devote to chasing every one of these. we go back and fact check. i can read all the different statements where they ve said, nope, no voter fraud, we ve checked, double checked. we could do that and spend days doing that. or we could just dismiss it, as selena says, as this is how he speaks and move on. i think it s important to actually fact check. we have to continue to do that. there needs to be some source of correct information out there. but r to selena s point, we need to understand that trump is trying to create a sentiment with his words. he s using his words to make his supporters feel something, to make them feel like he s a winner, like they re winners as well. it s part of his whole ethos as a candidate, to exaggerate, make things up, anticipate ud use th create a sense around his candidacy. i think it still behooves us to point that out. when i look at covering politics, so much of it is bs. we can talk about the bs surrounding romney. this is the worst case of s subterfuge. i don t know what s going on except for this. there s zero chance kellyanne conway took to the airways to say something trump didn t want said. she has his ear. those two are really tight. and he has listened to her in the past. that s how politicians get their mess an communicated when they re sort of hunkered down. they send their people out there and get their mess an across. so errol, why is mitt romney going back today to meet with donald trump after he s taken this public tongue lashing or denigration or whatever you want to call it from not only kellyanne conway but newt gingrich, another trump supporter. all of them. chris collins yesterday. almost made my hair move, the wind coming out of him. so what is why is mitt romney taking this? first of all, lest not rule out a pretty good meal. manhattan is lovely. rve you never know. i do think seriously there s a possible role for him. i don t think it s crazy to imagine a role in which surrounded by national security advisers and of course the president-elect himself, who have made all kinds of really disparaging anti-muslim statements that could dislodge foreign policy and make it really, really difficult, to have somebody who comes from a different place, from a different space, who can walk in and do something. i think it s conceivable that he could fit into even this administration. you think he s still being considered for secretary of state, as we sit here today? i don t see any reason to think otherwise. i think the debate is very much real within trump s mind and within his campaign. there are some people, and i think trump may be among them, who values loyalty, but they also value what romney brings, which is stability to foreign policy. that s probably the most important place you can have that. panel, thank you very much. great to talk to all of you. we ll get more insight into this. we ll have jason miller on the show, the communications director for trump s transition team. so raging wildfires in tennessee forcing evacuation of a popular tourist area that s home to the dollywood theme park. we ll take you there live next. we re following break news. there s some terrifying wildfires fueled by a punishing drought and ferocious winds, scorch resort towns in tennessee. hundreds are being forced to evacuate. we have someone at scene. cnn meteorologist jennifer gray r live in gatlinburg with more. where is this in terms of the cross hairs of concern? reporter: it s still a major concern, chris. there s still active wildfires going on now, despite the rainfall, which started falling late yesterday. unfortunately, not soon enough though to save portions of this historic and tourist-driven city. we re here at this evacuation center where about 1300 people have checked in. this happened so fast. they had to leave their homes with what was on their back, not enough time to save much of anything, not knowing what will be there when they return. wildfires threatening popular resort towns in east tennessee. if you re a person of praise, we could use your prayers. reporter: at least 14 fires near the smokey mountains national park forcing mass evacuations. we packed our valuables, readyre ready to go if we need to. reporter: at one point, 30 buildings engulfed in the fires, including r the 16-story hilton hotel. this amateur video posted on social media shows the raging fires just outside the hotel s windows. guests anxiously watching from inside. the fire now at edge of the dollywood theme park. the park not yet damaged but portion of the resort evacuated. we have multiple trees now falling with embers starting additional fires throughout the area. reporter: wind gusts topping 70 miles per hour, combined with the worst drought in the region in nearly a decade, fanning the flames. we re dealing with the worst possible conditions imaginable. reporter: and those pictures are just terrifying. the national guard has been is out here now. there ares a hundreds of first responders from this area and the surrounding areas that have come to help out. once the sun comes up, they ll assess the damage. as of right now, no word on when people will be able to return to their homes. okay, jennifer. please keep us updayligted from there. thank you. well, the situation in aleppo, syria, is disastrous. the syrian government s attacks triggering mass exodus of civilians. we re live with the latest next. walked around the shelter, no intention of adopting. he was the very last kennel in the very last row. emaciated. he was skin and bones. usually what you see in neglected dogs. it was one of those complete, meant-to-be moments. i totally fell in love with him. 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well, the situation now is truly at a breaking point, i would say, chris. essentially four years ago the rebels took about half of aleppo, the southeasteeastern p city. once the russians joined in on behalf of the assad regime, we saw a real uptick in the amount of bombardment hitting those rebel air whys. eventually, they were able to fully encircle the area of eastern aleppo. what we ve seen is the regime forces backed by iran, backed by russia, backed by shiami my lil from iraq and afghanistan, have taken roughly one-third of the rebels parts of the city. what they appear to be doing now is cleave in half, if you will, the remaining area. thousands and thousands of air strikes, no food getting in, no water getting in, and for many people trapped in these areas, chris, nowhere to run to because they re simply not willing to try to leave and go into a government-held area where they fear they could simply disappear forever, chris. nic, some of the regime leaflets that they re dropping on people there, if you do not leave these areas, you will be annihilated. you know everyone has given up on you. they left you alone to face your doom and nobody will give you any help. what is the impact of this mess an? how deep does it go with the people there, that they feel abandoned? they ve long felt abandoned by the western community, who they see have singularly failed to stop the bombardment of the assad regime. this is an besieged for months. we re seeing a nasty end game of this part of the city. the major urban stronghold of the rebels. if they lose it, it s a huge setback, frankly, for the motion there could be some sort of moderate syrian revolution here. the regime will use it as an enormous feter in their cap. it ll make it very hard for those who want to see a political solution to move forward. this is frankly the assad regime saying they can impose a milita military victory here. chris, also, this is a key test for president-elect donald trump. he has to sit now potentially and watch a humanitarian crisis unfold there. a lot of it backed by a country he d like to see a better relationship with, russia, with iran assisting them too. that s not a curreountry he necessarily wants better relations with. are we going to hear from the president-elect strong condemnation of surge into this area, where there could be 200,000 people facing the wrath of these regime-loyal militia, or will we see a change in washington s view. and clarissa, there s a st strategic component here for the united states. where there s a lack of opportunity, what takes root, extremism. there s a twitter account that really hits on this. she s a 7-year-old. she tweets about hief in aleppo with her mom. her mom left a series of distressing tweets in the last 4 hours. the last one says, last message, under heavy bombardments. when we die, keep talking for the 200,000 still inside. how many people are there in this situation? where can they go? well, i think this is something that people often forget or perhaps don t understand. when we look at isis, when we look at extremism, when we look at al qaeda, we see it as a cause. when in fact, it s actually a symptom, chris. the cause itself is the syrian civil war r. specifically, it is the oppression and slaughter of a sunni majority by a minority. as long as you have the continuation of that oppression, of that slaughter of a sunni muslim majority, you re going to see across the world sunni muslims everywhere, growing sympathies for these extremist groups because basically these extremist groups revel in a situation like aleppo. the message the people take away is the international community doesn t care about you, international law can t help you, democracy is of no use. we re the only people who can help you. god is the only thing that can help you. and it s a very powerful message, chris, for these people who are literally on their knees. by the way, that is one of the mottos of the assad regime. kneel or starve. it has been a very effective policy for them. it is a very effective recruitment policy as well for isis. unfortunately right now there s a lot of truth to it. you have people who are forgotten, starving, and they are desperate for reason to believe that they can have a future. clarissa, nici, thank you for helping us understand this situation a little better. alisyn? on a much lighter note, the pack is back, at least for one night. green bay keeps hope alive for their season on monday night football. we have details in this morning s bleacher report. that s next. make sure the germs they bring home don t stick around. use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. for millions of baby boomers there s a virus out there. a virus that s serious, like hiv, but it hasn t been talked about much. a virus that s been almost forgotten. it s hepatitis c. one in 30 boomers has hep c, yet most don t even know it. that s because hep c can hide in your body silently for years, even decades, without symptoms and it s not tested for in routine blood work. if left untreated, hep c can cause liver damage, even liver cancer. but there s important information for us: the cdc recommends all baby boomers get tested for hep c. all it takes is a simple one-time blood test. and if you have hep c, it can be cured. be sure to ask your doctor to get tested for hep c. for us it s time to get tested. it s the only way to know for sure. r. severe storms are packing torrential rains and damaging winds. they ll soak the eastern u.s. today, we re told. let s check in with cnn meteorologist chad myers. we ll take the rain over the fire areas there around gatlinburg and such. the rain will come into the northeast, maybe slowing the planes down, but the rain is beneficial. this rain is right where we need it, right over this tremendous drought over the southeast. gatlinburg didn t get the rain they wanted, but more is on the way. with that rain will be severe weather. we had tornadoes yesterday. there will be tornadoes today. there s the future radar. here s where the tornadoes will be today. anywhere from southeast of memphis all the way down to the gulf coast. we ll likely see another inch or two of rain in these air whys that need the rain so much. let me just show you this map. this is a map of where the wildfires are and where the rain hit last night. we need much more. that wildfire had gatlinburg is still going on in the mountains. structures don t go out with rain. we can wet down the leaves a little bit, but we need more rain here for sure. chris? chad, thank you very much. keep us on top of it. . so monday night football was worth it. you got to see the resurgence of aaron rodgers and his so-called mystery tint on the sidelines. hines ward has more. i don t remember you going into any tent, just laying people out with madness. no, we didn t have a tent back in my day, chris. it s been an off year for aaron rodgers and the packers. their mplayoff hopes have been fade, and rodgers haven t been himself. last night against the eagles, rodgers was in vintage form. second quart e watch the packers r quarterback thread the needle to adams for the touchdown. big-time throw and catch. later in the game, rodgers scrambling around. he goes down awkwardly and tweaks his hamstring. on the sideline, he goes into this mystery tent. apparently it s used for trainers to look at injuries in privacy and also for bathroom breaks or maybe even ice fishing. you learn something new every day. the packers would go on to win 27-13. to the nba. the warriors hosting the hawks. steph curry showing off his ski skills. nothing but net. warriors win their 12th straight, 105-100. alisyn, that s tied for the third longest streak in franchise history. back to you guys. i knew that. thanks so much. no problem. back to politics. president-elect donald trump blaming voter fraud and illegal voting for losing the popular vote. but where s his proof? 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it s a balance and you ve got to do both, obviously. you ve got to pay attention to the fake claims and the fake news, to debunk them, to expose them, to show that the president-elect, soon to be the president, is speaking from an anti-fact perspective. however, if cnn and talk radio and talk television become obsessed by this and become driven by this because it s easy to drive the panel discussions minute after minute, hour after hour, and don t pay attention to the things that do matter a lot, then real people, real issues get buried. and that is going to be the challenge because you, cnn, and others are playing on a completely different playing field now, where the rules have either been suspended or ripped up entirely. frank wrote a good piece about this. it s online if you want to go on cnn.com. it s called the four things he believes the media should be doing right now in covering trump. we re doing it with our own vernacular. it s called bull shit. good morning, everyone. we re talking around truth much too often. that s what fake news it. there s no fact free. there s only lies. we re creating a vocabulary here it accommodate one new thrust. now, where does it go for you? journalism? if you start calling something fact free and call ratism alt-right, you re putting yourself in a box it start. you are. i think you have to start to really be straight forward and say this untrue, here s what s really going on. i don t think you can back off at all. you have to be completely aggressive. you can t say he s distracting from the news. if this goes on and why will it change? it went on in the campaign. it will only grow. because it works. yes, it s extremely effective. when someone challenges this particular r individual, his reaction is to try to bully them and go after someone like jeff zeleny personally and try to bully the whole cnn apparatus, challenging them. that s his m.o. because it has worked, and it will continue to be that way unless he s continually challenged. he s obviously disturbed by the fact he s a minority president. it s driving him batty. and he s saying kind of outrageous things because of that. that isn t going to change. he s always going to be a minority president, and his popularity is probably never going to get mparticularly high. and to be clear, by minority president, you mean he got less of the popular vote. double meaning. selena, you re the reporter who had her finger on the pulse of what trump supporters believed and wanted from their president and why they were so enthusiastic about him. what do they think? basically, they think that mainstream media is lying and that the fake well, you tell me. what do they think about claims he makes that are sometimes outrageous? first of all, there s two different things between fake news and his hyperbole. fake news is an american tradition. we ve always had these little fake news stories that have been dropped in throughout our history, going all the way back to john adams. aren t they more ubiquitous now? now that they re taking seed, they re being picked up places where people don t know anymore how to distinguish fake news. that s true. the information is obviously so much more at hand than it was in the 18th century. still, we had them. we had fake news r outlets, newspapers, where there was all kinds of propaganda in them. having said that, when he does a tweeted that is patently false, i think our job is to obviously call him on it. but i also think if we focus too much on it, we re going to lose the people that, the readers, the voters, the populists. there has to be that trust between the populists and the media. we ve absolutely lost them. ic it s really important that the populist trusts its press. it does trust us to call things bs when it is, but to focus on it and make blow it up, i think that s when we lose them. look, frank, you ve made this point to me as a mentor more than once. i m not looking to curse on television, but you have to call something what it is. r people mistake themselves on television that they re in the popularity business. you re not. you re there to check power. you re not going to be popular. people aren t going to like it. you got to get comfortable with that and do your job. and so does donald trump need to get comfortable with that. the media needs to have the role and maintain the role of respectful adversary. trump does too. this is an adversarial relationship. it s built into the constitution. it goes back to the first president. no president, no leader likes the media. they re there to harangue, to harass, and to hold them to account when they say something inaccurate, when they flip-flop, when they push out a policy. what is the impact of the policy, whether it s immigration or tax cuts or anything. what is that going to have on people, on real lives? that s what needs to not be lost in all of this. my concern is that donald trump is positively brilliant in the way he uses this news. call it what you want, fake news or whatever, because it distracts from so many other things. and you have got to manage both. you ve got to balance both. hold him to account on what he says and how he says it, but also not lose sight of the other things that are then getting buried because of what he said. yes, we need to roll up our sleeves and work harder and do all of this and point out both simultaneously. i want to read this. this is the epitome of the through the look glass logic that we re now seeing on twitter. this is something the president-elect retweeted from someone else about the illegal voting. look, we have an example realtime right now. hold on. i need to read this first. this is one that he retweeted. @jeffzeleny, what proof do you have that donald trump is not suffer from millions of fraud votes? journalist, do your job, he says. proves the nonexistence of fact, which i think is a super power, by the way. to be able to prove a nonexistent fact. how do you know it wasn t martians? frank just made an important point that s playing out in realtime. i didn t mean to interrupt you. trump just tweeted he knows he s wrong about millions. he knows he s wrong. how do you know? because he s a very intelligent guy. it s a great distraction. he now doesn t want us talking about the fact he s so wrong about the millions. so he s attacking cnn. he just put out a tweet saying, flag burning should have a big penalty. you should not be able to burn the american flag. if you do, there should be consequences, perhaps loss of citizenship or a year in jail. frank says no. now, clearly he could not have consulted with anyone about the law before he tweeted this. he tweeted earlier cnn stinks, which means he s paying attention. thank you. and he s using it as a distraction. i hope he s

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