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talent show or just showing off their talents and combined talent? >> exactly. it's more what the kids were accomplishing. >> so everybody say winner? >> exactly. >> so this is -- the central question or the central debate is whether the government should fund the arts? >> true. >> that's what this is about, right? >> i don't think this is what this is about. in our opinion that's an archaic conversation. in 11 states, overall, their test scores, their attendance, all the things i mentioned are being turned around astronomically. and it's a 70/30 split. it's being funded by the federal government and it's not like it's a silver bullet but it does great work and answers whether we should contribute to the fund. >> could make a difference. >> yeah. >> talking about the president.
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build the public universities and extend the loans and the pell grants and all that other stuff, tuition has risen astronomically, so evan if you get your pell grant or your loan, you're still going deeper into debt. white people and other middle class people have a lot to be concerned about, have a lot to complain about. i think that the president, we were talking about this all the time now. the president has gotten that message that we are all in this together. we can do it, and government has helped before and government will help you again. and i like his messaging and i think he can make inroads with the white working class. i don't think he's going to win a majority, that's impossible, but he did better with the white working class and white voters than white democrats al gore and john kerry. it's not only about race. i guess that's my final message. i do feel that sometimes we can sound very condescending when we talk about the reservations of the white working class. >> you never sound condescending. but i tell you the president's been guilty of this. when he made the comment about clinging to guns and religion,
build the public yurchts and extend the loans and the pell grants and all that other stuff, tuition has risen astronomically, so evan if you get your pell grant or your loan, you're still going deeper into debt. white people and other middle class people have a lot to be concerned about, have a lot to complain about. i think that the president, we were talking about this all the time now. the president has gotten that message that we are all in this together. we can do it, and government has helped before and government will help you again. and i like his messaging and i think he can make inroads with the white working class. i don't think he's going to win a majority, that's impossible, but he did better with the white working class and white voters than white democrats al gore and john kerry. it's not only about race. i guess that's my final message. i do feel that sometimes we can sound very condescending when we talk about the reservations of the white working class. >> you never sound
are announcing today. >> reporter: the plan aims to cut fees and increase competition by executive action so he doesn't need congress to act. >> because we can't wait for congress to help our families and our economy. >> reporter: that means the president can avoid the gridlock on capitol hill. the new rules only help borrowers in good standing. you have to have a government backed loan and no late payments in six months. that still leaves 32 million people who might qualify. rob and yunji? >> huge number though. again, they at admit that the program won't help everybody because you have to be like john said, in financial good standing to benefit from the program. still millions could find relief which is good. >> interesting, a lot of political analysts have the saying let's get the president to lead. now he will bypass congress. >> this is not the end of his financial plans, and he'll announce how to help college kids repay mounting student loans which are growing astronomically. >> i still have a few of those myself. >> uh-huh. moammar gadhafi's body has been removed from the commercial freezer where it had been on display.
and if you want to look at the biggest bias in compromise information -- >> juan: if that's valuable to you caroline, why wouldn't you pay for it? >> die pay for it through my taxes that's how i would like to pay for it in addition to my individual contributions. >> juan: hold on. you are saying it's more important in terms of your tax spending than social security. more important. >> not more. >> juan: scholarships for college children. >> not more. >> juan: more important than the police or the fire? you want to have that as your priority even at a time of fiscal constraints? >> well, juan, our fiscal constraints are the result of tax cuts for the wealthy who wealth has been growing astronomically while will middle 80's. >> juan: increase taxes to pay for npr's budget? that's what you are saying. >> just restore taxes to an equitable place and be fine. get out of wars we can't afford and shouldn't have been n the first place. this either/or doesn't make sense to me when i look at the books and see we are a wealthy country pay for everything we
biggest bias in compromise information -- >> juan: if that's valuable to you caroline, why wouldn't you pay for it? >> die pay for it through my taxes that's how i would like to pay for it in addition to my individual contributions. >> juan: hold on. you are saying it's more important in terms of your tax spending than social security. more important. >> not more. >> juan: scholarships for college children. >> not more. >> juan: more important than the police or the fire? you want to have that as your priority even at a time of fiscal constraints? >> well, juan, our fiscal constraints are the result of tax cuts for the wealthy who wealth has been growing astronomically while will middle 80's. >> juan: increase taxes to pay for npr's budget? that's what you are saying. >> just restore taxes to an equitable place and be fine. get out of wars we can't afford and shouldn't have been n the first place. this either/or doesn't make sense to me when i look at the books and see we are a wealthy country pay for everything we prioritize. unfortunately we happen to be
biggest bias in compromise information -- >> juan: if that's valuable to you caroline, why wouldn't you pay for it? >> die pay for it through my taxes that's how i would like to pay for it in addition to my individual contributions. >> juan: hold on. you are saying it's more important in terms of your tax spending than social security. more important. >> not more. >> juan: scholarships for college children. >> not more. >> juan: more important than the police or the fire? you want to have that as your priority even at a time of fiscal constraints? >> well, juan, our fiscal constraints are the result of tax cuts for the wealthy who wealth has been growing astronomically while will middle 80's. >> juan: increase taxes to pay for npr's budget? that's what you are saying. >> just restore taxes to an equitable place and be fine. get out of wars we can't afford and shouldn't have been n the first place. this either/or doesn't make sense to me when i look at the books and see we are a wealthy country pay for everything we prioritize. unfortunately we happen to be
>> will you put it up again for vote in january when the make up of the house changes? >> we're looking at it right now. you had senator greg on a few minutes ago talking about how we don't want to become like grease with our national debt increasing astronomically. the only way to do that is to redeuce spending and get our budget under control. this kind of program has to be under examination, under the microscope. >> i know it's not something new for you. you've been looking at funding for a while. tell us why? >> this program was created 40 years ago before satellite, before cable, before the internet. maybe it was justified then. it's not justified now. the consumer simply doesn't need the government to give the choices that he has for listening to broadcast. we have so many options available today, and if we're going to get our funding under control, we simply have to look