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by, trump was reportedly just not interested in doing more to stop it. and trump learned that his own vice president had to be rushed to a secure location, trump reportedly responded, so what? so what? trump accepted the violence that they. he liked the threat to democracy than, they're whipping of violence on his behalf, the anger. and he still does. and that's quickly emerging as the core argument in president biden's reelection campaign. in a speech on friday, biden called democracy the most urgent question of our time, saying trump is willing to sacrifice it. and just this aftern...

ide with jen psaki" starts ♪ ♪ ♪ no w. ♪ ♪ ♪ well, if the first week of the new year has shown us anything, it's that joe biden and donald trump are basically living on different planets when it comes to their approach to american democracy. tonight, i'm gonna talk to house speaker emeritus nancy pelosi about all of that. plus, president obama has appointed david plouffe as a senior strategist who might be useful to the biden campaign. of course he would be. david is gonna join me tonight as well. but we do want to start tonight with some new reporting from abc news t...

House. it provides this vivid description to investigators of what he witnessed because he was also one of the few people who was with trump for the entirety of january 6th. the time when he went to dinner later in the day, he was with trump. and he describes trump arms folded, holding on the tv, watching the riot play out on fox news as scavino and self is going in and pleading with him to do something, to put out some kind of a message, to call the attack resolve. and as the others, meadows, ivanka, white house lawyers, they're doing the same. and he says to the investigators, he is nonrespo...

Fox news as scavino and self is going in and pleading with him to do something, to put out some kind of a message, to call the attack resolve. and as the others, meadows, ivanka, white house lawyers, they're doing the same. and he says to the investigators, he is nonresponsive. he is angry, not even looking at them, looking at the tv. angry but saying they are angry on my behalf. the people attacking that capital are angry on my behalf. >> he wasn't angry about the vience. he was angry that the election was stolen. >> that's what he was saying. again, this isn't liz cheney saying it. this isn'...