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the united states is rapidly skating its rhetoric against iran. secretary of state mike pompeo denounced the strikes on two oil plants in saudi arabia as an act of war. i don t expect the americans to use military force at the moment. i think that none of the actors involved can really afford to start a war on this issue. the united states has an election looming, which means it s not going to law firm an attack on iran. saudi arabia is already struggling in yemen, so it s not going to launch another front to the north. looking to tehran, they deny responsibility for the saudi attack. a fairly reaction from washington to these attacks on the facilities. we re seeing a lot of blame game going on. zarif hasn t called for an all-time war. friday president trump ....
Heard, but we may potentially retaliate against you. adam schiff, to his credit, essentially sending messages to this whistleblower and others potentially to say come tremendously directly to the committee. i m not sure that that actually happens. i hope it does, but to biden s point, if there were no other reason to go forward with impeachment or at least try to move needle a little bit, this is just adding to the rationale. what do democrats do if the president, which he does very well, has already pivoted the story line here saying look at the booinidens. we don t know yet, but at the same time i think the democrats really need to i know it s not as sexy as impeachment talks, is to buckle down and do their work, and their message should be this president is interfering from this other branch of government to doing their work and use all the ....
Now in terms of going to ukraine? what sort of risk does he face based on what you know here? well,i mean, the issue here is this military aid, $250 million in congressionally mandated aid. in july the trump administration froze it. now, the ukrainians didn t learn about that until august. mr. trump didn t mention it on this call. but this is what he s holding over him. and exactly what rudy giuliani said about that aid is critical. now, giuliani is denying that he ever mentioned that, that he was just making the case for a bind investigation in another paul manafort-related investigation but exactly what rudy was saying, he only got to an aid, not the president. that is one thing the democrats three panels of democratic ....
Wrong, it s a totally appropriate conversation. all right. thank you so much, nbc s hans nichols at the white house live for us. thank you, hans. let s go tower the only, new york times reporter julian barnes, and former u.s. attorney in the eastern district of michigan and msnbc legal analyst barbara mcquade. julian, you ve been following this story for the new york times here. lots of moving parts. what do we know in terms of the latest of the story specifically, the whistle skbloer what the whistleblower may have said? well, we don t know all the details of the whistleblower s complaint, but what we do know is that it involves ukraine and it involves president trump s pressure on the ukrainian government to investigate joe biden. we re all focusing on this july call, this call where mr. trump told the ukrainian president to talk to rudy giuliani. he repeatedly made that demand ....