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joining me now is the security correspondent for "the new york times" and brian catoulis. how do you square john kerry's confidence with the news we have today that it has fallen? >> well he's the secretary of state and he needs to demonstrate some positive tone here. because this whole fight is in partnership not only with iraq but with 60 other countries. the whole theory of the case is that the u.s. is going to provide some support in the background, but we're not going to go back in to iraq ourselves. so i think it would be hard for the secretary of state of a country leading this coalition to be overly negative. >> we're not saying overly negative. i think what a lot of folks are looking for is just an honest assessment maybe. >> yeah that's right. i think there's no whitewashing this alex. this is a disaster.
risks of what looks like to be a likely cruise missile strike by the united states. so i think that's the number one thing is we've got to get beyond this era, which i think we saw very clearly under president bush over the previous decade if it's not just us, no one else is going to do it. and we've got to demand more from other countries, and quite frankly those countries in the region that are neighboring syria are the ones that are threatened the most by the conflict there. >> all right. kristen welker and brian catoulis, thank you both for your time this evening. >> thank you, reverend al. ahead, military action in the shadow of the gulf war. the grave moral dimension of the decision facing president obama. also, in the wake of the republican snub of the march on washington, bill o'reilly is on the defensive. and on a week we celebrate progress, it's the remarkable story of a man with a front row