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Two organizations. now, the problem was that in 1982, the united states supreme court disallowed this specific procedure that the irs was contemplating applying to the donors of our group and donors to the chamber. >> was that what president obama was referring to that congress passed a sloppy law? is that what he was referring to? >> the law governing 501 c 4s and 501 c 6s has been around for half a century. if he was referring to this particular incident, then he was condemning the congress of the united states, you know, half a century ago. no, no. the president of the united states was blo...

What was irs doing to g.p.s. exactly? >> not only did g.p.s. but also the u.s. chamber of commerce. what they were attempting to do was attempting to look at the individual donors to this 50 1 c 4 g.p.s. and the 501 c 6 the u.s. chamber and then subject those donors to a 35% tax on any gift that they gave to these two organizations. now, the problem was that in 1982 the united states supreme court disallowed this specific procedure that the irs was contemplating applying to the donors of our group and donors to the chamber. >> was that what president obama was referring to that congress passed...

Fec and is that information that i just said about sharing confidential information is, that correct? >> they are both correct. we sent -- we asked for the correspondence and any records left back to 1986 when lois lerner became the head of the fec. greta, understands, we now have lois lerner as a criminal conspirator in this activity we don't know who all she conspired with ways and means have referred criminal charges. we of course have held her in contempt for improperly not telling us the truth after she said things like i didn't break any rules. i didn't break any laws. she broke rules, s...

Irs and then crashed two months later, there is no evidence they are related. the issue in question, the letter that went to the irs is generally about c 4s and donors. it's not about this targeting. that concept was given three pinocchios. they're not related. this is trying to gin up a scandal when there isn't any. this is something republicans feel like they've been getting credibility on, they've been getting people ginned up on. it sort of leads into their larger narrative that this government is after you. they felt like it was something they could get political capital off of. now they'...

Fec and is that information that i just said about sharing confidential information is, that correct? >> they are both correct. we sent -- we asked for the correspondence and any records left back to 1986 when lois lerner became the head of the fec. greta, understands, we now have lois lerner as a criminal conspirator in this activity we don't know who all she conspired with ways and means have referred criminal charges. we of course have held her in contempt for improperly not telling us the truth after she said things like i didn't break any rules. i didn't break any laws. she broke rules, s...