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for infamous on immigration to claim ilg in accordancgnorance. i m telling you, he did not use that word, george. it s a gross misrepresentation. i didn t hear it and i was sitting closer farther than dick dishon. but dick durbin in backing down. it s pretty embarrassing when you have to take your children out of the room to report the news. this surreal he said/he said is happening on martin luther king jr. as described by mlk s nephew at the white house as a day on, not a day off. it s not a day to hang out in the park or pull out the barbecue grill. it s the day to do something to help someone else. and that can be as simple as delivering someone s trash. or picking up the newspaper for that elderly person who can t get to the end of the driveway. president donald trump spent his morning at his private golf club. former white house communications director anthony scaramucchi is here to talk about this in a moment. chris chris citizen welker at the white house. and christopher atkins. a day on, not a day off. what s on the president s schedule today? well, as you pointed out, katy, president donald trump went to his golf course today. he s going to return back to the white house. so far, we have gotten some tweets from him today, including one about martin luther king day. let me read you that tweet. he tweeted dr. king s dream is our dream. as the american dream. it s the promise stitched into the fabric of our nation, etched into the hearts of our people and written into the soul of humankind. he also tweeted about daca, not surprisingly, of course, he s engage in a big fight with dems, trying to get a deal done. words are, katy, this is a stark contrast from what we ve seen from past presidents, for example, former president obama last year along with the first lady participated in a service elect project. and president trump met with martin luther king iii. and this is a tradition going back a long way. former president bush, for example, typically participated in community projects on martin luther king day. so, president trump taking a slightly different tactic to marking this holiday. although, it is important to note, that on friday he did pay tribute to the civil rights leader. and also had a big event honoring dr. king at the end of the week last week. so, that is how he s spending his day. again, he s going to return to the white house a little later this evening. we ll have a chance to have all the big headlines. we did hear from one of his cabinet secretaries ben carson. take a list ton when to what he say. you know, i m a member of this administration. and i don t agree with the president with everything he s said. or, or, of how it s said. reporter: obviously, notable remarks coming from secretary carson in the wake of president trump reportedly using the term s-hole to describe immigrants last week during a meeting about immigration, katy. what s going on in the white house right now internally? i know last week, the president according to halle s reporting was calling people to find out how the s-hole comments played with his base. and the washington post reporting there is internal debate whether or not he said s-hole or s-house. it seems like both of them have the same sentiment. reporter: they certainly do. i think from the perspective inside the white house, they want to try to turn the page on this controversy. they want to focus on the government. of course, the government is going to run out of money on friday, katy. and pushing to have daca fixed. it seems like the comments or whatever was specifically said, they were close to getting a deal and then all of that was derailed. the question is once back from the holiday, how do they get on track. you hear this he said/he said, you have tom cotton saying no, they didn t hear that word. and dick durbin saying absolutely he did hear that word. and lindsey graham, why would he not be defending his colleagues in this instance? i think there s a couple of factors. first, sharp reporting who said that graham and dick durbin had come to the white house and think they go were going to meet with the president alone and get a chance to submit his auburn deal that he had worked out with a group of democratic and republican senators. what they found in the room were senators and republicans who are a little more obstructionist in their views from cotton on the far end to kevin mccarthy who is involved in the other group trying to come up with a compromise. the second factor here, if you look back over the last couple of years of the relationship between lindsey graham and donald trump, i think graham is the person who has got internal conflicts between this political principles and what it s going to take to get done. he was a critic of the president in the candidacy, and now you see him trying to throw a little bit of a jab at his republican senatorial colleagues, without burning the president on this. because he still wants to see a daca deal get done. a very fine line to walk for the south carolina senator. so, kimberly, where does this leave the daca deal? where does that leave the 800,000 d.r.e.a.m.e erers find if they have to go or stay? well, we ve heard lawmakers say they want to push to try to get the deal done quickly to move daca. i think the point is at the white house. you have the president who days ago had gathered lawmakers at the white house saying, look, whatever you guys agree on, bring it to me and i ll sign it. he s since done a 180. and these comments that he s made referring to immigrants from african nations saying he doesn t want them, he wants people from norway, hassal further exacerbated the entire deal and made it put a big question mark over what the president will sign. lawmakers are trying to get a sign all over again as to what deal would be acceptable to the president, after being told that they that he just wanted them to get a deal. so, i think that is the sticking point. i think there is enough desire on the part of republicans and democrats, at least on the senate side, to begin with, to get something done. the question is what the president will accept. big question. nbc s chr kristin welker. president trump said he s the least racist person. but he also says this. mexico sends its people, they re not sending their best. they re bringing drugs, they re bringing crimes. donald trump is calling for a complete shut down. i look at my african-american over here. are you the greatest. i ve been treated unfairly. no this judge is of mexican heritage. i m building a wall. i think there s blame on both sides. we have a representative in congress who they say was here a long time ago, they call her pocahontas. that s just a small portion of what donald trump has said. anthony scaramucchi was a former communications director. i don t think any of that is going to make the campaign of trump 2020. you don t think so? no, the paid advertising. making a joke. you re making a joke. sorry, i didn t hear you. at the end of the day, there are some other sound bites that you could put in there, that are not like that. i mean he s he s a complex guy. we both know that. you ve covered that. i read your book. you wrote a great book. he s a complex guy but he s not racist. how do you score those comments, anthony? he s said those things over and over and over and over again. pocahontas thing was a joke. obviously, the comments that were made last week, you know, i think we re in this sort of weird society now where everybody s iphone is a studio. it s a camera. and you can t have a private conversation anymore. dick durbin can say whatever he wants but he s in a small room with the president of the united states. they re talking about something. they re trying to get a deal done. there s an expression in washington about sausages being made and legislation is a lot like sausages being made. nobody should ever see the sttu. and then he s running out to a camera to try to expose the president. well, it came out in a washington post report. well, somebody had to leak it. how is that helping? there is not just donald trump having what he thinks is a private conversation. it s donald trump s public statements that seem to underscore this idea, in the president s mind, if you are not white, then you are somehow less than. let s just look at some of the things that he said about muslims, about latinos, african-americans. he s tweeting crime stats that show that african-americans kill whites at unbelievable rate that is just flatly false. there was never an paul jeez ap that. how do you square that together? i m not really here to square it. we re here to look at outcomes and styled. we re going to litigate a style and we re both going to say he has an unique style. without that style he likely doesn t become president. when i was on the campaign, when people wrote about his tweets being presidential or unpresidential. presidential tweets got no attention. why didn t you just have presidential tweets? it made him president. he was founded by the media, pew research, not me, 73% said by the president is not negative. yes, he goes over the mainstream of the american people. when i was there, the 11 days i was there, i told him directly, let s not declare war on the media. let s have amnesty with the media because it s not going to win. they re fighting with the wall street journal over i or i d, as it related to the korean dictator. let s not do that. the president probably said i d, so now we re going to fight because we re at war. let me just step out and say, at the end of the day, he s a very unique character but he s not racist. if you look at his policies, the african-american unemployment rate in the united states is the lowest in 40 or 45 years. it was already going down under obama. i understand that. but it s going down even farther and more economic growth and opportunity today. let s talk about what he does. there s the policy of trying to ban all muslims coming into the country. the travel ban which is just targeted muslim majority countries but there s also immigration and merit-based immigration. how do you define merit and merit-based immigration? i define it like all defined on meet the press which is people are eager to work. i don t think it s i.q. scores or racial profiling. it s defined, here s a batch of people that want to work and they should be allowed to come to the country. specifically as it relates to the muslim situation, i think he s trying to protect the american people. and are muslims going to come in and kill american people? no, but i think even the obama administration, if you went back to the obama administration on chickeconomic let s go back to them on national security. they were analyzing those countries and it seems to be a higher level of threat coming out of those countries. now, listen, there s a very tough decision to make between civil liberties and protection. we know that line. the american people deserve to be safe. they also need to be free. so, it s a very, very tough line. i m not going to sit here i don t have the information that the president has waith regards to threats. both president obama and president clinton in private said when you read these intelligence reports you have to make very tough decisions. i want do go back to immigration and merit. you defined merit for us. when the president is having these conversations he s saying why do we want more people from these s-hole or s-house countries, african countries, et cetera. why don t we have more people from norway? how is somebody from norway, how do they have more merit than somebody from africa? first of all, did he say it or did he not say it? he did say it. multiple people let s stipulate for this conversation that he said it. i don t know if he said it but just for this conversation because i want to make a broader point. if you are in a private conversation in the white house with a group of people that you re trying to get a deal done. and you are problem to new york-style rhetorical flourishes which i happen to be prone to, why do that to the guy? that s neither here or there. we re both saying here that he said, why say that the people from norway have more merit? for the president, having known him for a long period of time, i don t think that s what he said. why can t we have more immigration from european countries he said that in public at cpac. this lines up with what he said publicly, that europeans deserve here to be here more than africans? he s not saying that in a racially charged way. how could he not say that in a racially charged way, norway is 83% white. norway is 83% white. africa is not. there s a lot between skin produced in europe that s not necessarily white. anthony, let s not quibble here. let s targeting africans, haiti, latino countries. you guys want to hit him on style. he s going to get hit on style until after he wins re-election in 2020. i want to look at substance. he s trying to get a daca deal done. he said he wanted it to be a law of love. he opened up the system to camera. 55 minutes people got to see who the guy is which is a conciliatory negotiating guy that wants to take a hit from both sides and take a deal. durbin didn t obviously like that. or lindsey graham no, lindsey graham liked the 55 minutes. senator durbin did not. lindsey graham said he spoke his peace to the president after that. after the comment, the 55 minutes that were televised on live tv were fantastic. you re actually seeing the president for who he is. he s neurologically sound. he s a great dealmaker, he a billionaire entrepreneur. and dick durbin didn t like that. let s detonate the president to get the gun off the boat again. anthony, he says a lot of these things in public, it doesn t matter public or private. let s just read the list. everybody seems to have this definitive list. mexicans are rapists. he announced his presidency. muslim ban. look at my african-american. a mexican judge can t be fair. hold on, both sides of the blame after charlottesville. muslims are cheering in new jersey. muslim wife wouldn t speak because her husband wouldn t let her. all asians have aids. nigerians live in mud huts. central park five putting hillary clinton face over a jewish star. african-americans are living in hell. exaggerating crime stats. retweeting white supremacists. i can keep going, that s the point. katy, i m impressed with what you re doing, this is perfect for trial advocacy and a jury. you ve got a great production team here. this is not a production here. this is what donald trump said. only one i m going to give you on the whole list is the charlottesville. i said that to the president, i said that in public. i don t think he can equivocate on nazis. thankfully, he walked that back. on this other stuff, i do think you guys are tightening up around a couple words that he said. he certainly didn t say all mexicans are rapists. he was just trying to say that people are coming over the border. mexico is sending rapists. but also with mexico, other countries, coming through mexico. if you could talk to the president, hey, listen, there s a good portion of the country who thinks you re racist. i would tell him to watch your show and read your book. there s a good portion of the country who doesn t trust you, who are worried about you as a president, who doesn t think you re fighting for them. whether or not it s true, they believe it. what would you tell donald trump? and could you get him to turn this presidency around to make it that people across america, not just a section, believe in this president? okay, so, listen, i m not going to be able to do that. but if i were able to do that, a couple things that i would say, and, frankly, and share with you or anybody, for that matter, is that he s got to marry the content with style. because i think that people like msnbc and other people that don t like the president don t make a sweeping indication about msnbc don t like that s a large group of people. i m not going to quibble this. let me make that point. people that don t like the president. let s say that msnbc loving the president. people that don t love the president, marry your content with style, your approval ratings would go up. your style looking at the broad base of the content you look at national security, economics, you look what he did to commemorate and honor martin luther king, i thought kristen was very fair in her reporting of that. the content is there. the economy is booming, people are doing better. marry the style of the content, you d be way better with the people. would you call him and tell him that? i could tell him that. but at the end of the day, he s 71 years old, he s going to do things exactly the way he wants to do them. but he s got good instincts. he won the american presidency in 2016. i predict he ll win in 2020. you may disagree. we re going to have fun over the next years watching this unfold. anthony scaramucchi, thank you for being here. coming up next, 38 terrifying minutes. the u.s. pacific commander has detected a missile threat to hawaii. this is not a drill. i ll speak with the hawaii lawmaker who hit with his family in a bathtub. i m mark and i quit smoking with chantix. my friends and family never thought i d be the one to quit smoking, i was such a heavy smoker. but i was able to do it with chantix. i did not know that chantix would reduce my urges so significantly. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix reduced my urge to smoke. when you try to quit smoking, with or without chantix, you may have nicotine withdrawal symptoms. some people had changes in behavior or thinking, aggression, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, or suicidal thoughts or actions with chantix. serious side effects may include seizures, new or worse heart or blood vessel problems, sleepwalking or allergic and skin reactions which can be life-threatening. stop chantix and get help right away if you have any of these. tell your healthcare provider if you ve had depression or other mental health problems. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. the most common side effect is nausea. everybody had doubts, including me, but i did it. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. everybody had doubts, including me, but i did it. at planters, we put fresh roawhich has its drawbacks.an, guys, know anything about this missing inventory? 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20 minutes. reporter: just 20? yeah. reporter: so in the course of that 20 minutes, what happens, the phone rings, you pick up the phone and they say, a nuclear missile is headed this way? yes. reporter: then what? then they make a launch. they make a decision that they authenticated that from pacific command and activate the sirens. reporter: so that means 400 sirens statewide say they have a siren that hasn t been heard since last time in the 80s. reporter: so, katy, the system was triggered snad ve ee inadvertently, the sirens didn t go off because it was done in text. it would take 20 minutes to get here from north korea to hawaii. that was double the amount of time, basically, that people were left inland or didn t know what was going on. error here, searching for credibility here. in the meantime, that person has been reassigned pending investigation. remarkable. what a remarkable coincidence you happened to be doing that very story. jacob soboroff, thank you very much. joining from us honolulu is hawaii state representative matthew lopresti. he s vice chair of the house committee on public safety. thank you very much for being here, congressman. talk to me about what it was like during those 38 minutes. you told our producers, you took your family and hid in a bathtub? yeah, it was a completely surreal experience. you know, we ve always been prepared for natural disasters. when we got the alerts, my wife and i gathered our children and went to the inner most room in our house. and we put them in the bathtub, because we don t have basements out here. we put them in here, told them to say their prayers, as far as we knew, there was an imminent strike happening. why did it take so long to correct the error? you know, we re going to have a hearing this coming week. i m the vice chair of the public safety committee, we re going to have a lot of questions. we want a second-by-second analysis of what happened and why. it seems they didn t have an air alert drafted to send out which is crazy not to have the assumption that something could go wrong. apparently, they had to run the message by fema in order to send it out to everybody that was a false alarm. it s not acceptable. they need to act faster. it seems that the first word that anybody got was not real, a false alarm, a tweet by tulsi gabbard. how is that an acceptable way to go about that? no, it s not. our first word, a cousin of ours is in the air force. we got word from him and a cyberexpert, my sister-in-law, that it was a false alarm. we pushed that message out, too. 38 minutes is when the department of emergency management got that out and it s not okay. i d like to talk about what the president said, saying he wanted to offer this support. you know, we re in this situation in part because of his inflammatory rhetoric. you had scaramucchi talking about style and content. his style is married to his content. it s disdain and enemies alike. and his content is offensive. if he knew remotely about diplomacy, people would not be so frightened. but because of the style of leadership that we have, we have to plan for these things. and we lack the resources to have, obviously, the proper experts in charge to put these systems in place. and now, we end up in this kind of situation. now, i m not saying that this false alarm is his fault. but the fact is, his rhetoric, fire and fury, has put the entire nation, if not the world in a tizzy. and now we re in this situation where the least bit of false alarm makes people hide their doubts and their kids and saying their prayers. is anyone able to dial this back in the administration? obviously, there s a special place in hell for people like scaramucchi who go on tv and make their life s work to apologize for this man rather than to speak directly and say you need to think more clearly and have a rational approach to the world we live in because you re putting people in life and my children s lives in danger. you got to appreciate the new york-style flourishes as he would call them. matthew lopresti, thank you for being here. i m glad everything turned out okay. a growing number of democratic lawmakers are planning to skip president trump s union address. will sheila jackson. paul ryan s democratic challenger just raised an eye popping amount of cash. we ll talk with iron worker turned congressional candidate randy brice, ahead. show me the carfax. now the car you want and the history you need are easy to find. show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. 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pardon me? if you re going to be in the aisle trying to talk to him, do you think he ll stop to talk to you? i don t be in the aisle. it sounded like you were going to be in the aisle to tell him something specific. up mean a message. no, i ll be in my seat. my very presence in my seat. the president will know how how many of us are thinking as we are in our seat. so, i look forward to that. let me ask you about issac newton farris jr. who stood by the president at the memory of his uncle in the white house ceremony. we asked him about president trump who doesn t have public events that we can tell at the moment. and he said mr. trump s general ignorance about these things are racial ignorance which farris said was also present in trump s orbit. and that s why he believes he s not participating in any events. do you have any comment? first of all, i appreciate mr. farris remarks on friday. i appreciate the king family and mr. farris, the son of king s sister was royalty to us. and i believe mr. trump to be ignorant of many things. he lies of hispanic americans, african-americans, caribbean americans, women, and many others. and it s tragic. because he has the obligation and duty to represent all of us. i believe that the members who are going and not going are making a very important statement. making it in different ways. and those ways are we will not tolerate the continued abuse of power that mr. trump engages in with his wrong words. i would frankly ask as a senior member of the security committee why he was so late in the comments regarding the very difficult situation in hawaii. one of the issues, of course, is that the homeland security department just receiving, secretary of homeland security, is rail not doing their job. because we should be engaging in exercises with the state. it is frankly ridiculous to suggest this is hawaii s problem when in fact the united states milita military was able to determine this was a mistake. i believe, my colleagues believe, the president should be fired. and our president seemed to be completely oblivious to the fact that we have cyber security problems. and that we should be working with the 50 states on it. but i think today is a day for dr. king s recognition. i applaud mr. farris for articulating what the problem is with our leadership and our president. but it s up to those of us who believe in dr. king s message. the beloved community, caucasian, hispanics, african-americans, asians, we believe that america is a great country because all of us respect the dignity of each other. that s what i believe to be part of my blief aelief and this natd this state. thank you, dr. king for all that you ve done and helping us to perpetuate the dream. texas congresswoman sheila jackson lee. thank you. and paul ryan raised $1.2 million in 2017. randy bryce, an iron worker nicknamed iron stash gained national attention when his video went viral. i decided to run for office, because not everybody is seated at the table. and it s time to make a bigger table. i m the best person to represent this district because i m a working person. randy bryce joins us now from milwaukee. randy, thank you very much for joining us. why do you think they re raising so much money? well, because people have nothing with what our leadership is actually not doing. especially somebody in speaker ryan s position who is going to be the top republican that s going to be taken doubt this coming november. people are seeing this, this resistance is very real. people have having enough with where the president is taking us and not having a president with checks and balances to stand up to him. a lot of it looks like coming from new york and california. wisconsin donors came in third. are you speaking directly to wisconsin voters? are are you getting this wave of cash because of the general unhappiness with this president nationally among democrats? well, we re getting the message out in the first congressional district for sure. we are reaching outside to new york and california. that s where all the money comes in from. but it s to help us get rid of somebody like speaker ryan who is the number three republican. and this country, it s going the wrong place. we re seeing up to the last 20 years paul ryan has been completely overtaken by billionaire donors, lobbyists and special interests in washington, d.c. meanwhile, the last 20 years, i ve been here struggling with our neighbors. and we re going in the opposite direction. that s why i decided to step up. people asked me if i would run because they re seeing what i m doing agens part of their every story. randy, what s your your platform? in favor of medicare for all. $15 an hour minimum wage for edge. i d like to see retraining. so many people in the first district has been laid off and we need to look for alternative forms of training. that s like technical school for a lot of tech jobs coming up, too. and there s talk about a congressman like bill conoff in the san francisco area bringing the tech industry here. when i was out in san francisco visiting the iron workers, talking about work. i said what s keeping you guys so busy with cranes everywhere. they said the tech industry. it creates more jobs and construction, too. it s a win-win situation. we have an infrastructure that s crumbling, in fact, needs to be addressed. those are a lot of good paying jobs. i know that first hand from doing that work. if you re in congress, would you work with this president? i would work with the president as long as i m not going against something that are my values. that s our problem right now. do you think it s with him on immigration, do you think the wall should be funded? no we need to get a clean d.r.e.a.m. act right now. these young people brought to our country, this is the only home that they know. and it s unfair for them, every two years to wonder what the president is going to do. is he going to rescind this. let s just get something done. all of these anxiety. these are people contributing to our society, hard-working people, they have no criminal record. and you have to be a student or you have to work. to rip their families apart. i mean, that s family values right there, trying to keep families together. and that s one instance, i don t see how we can t work together to keep families together. are you running on impeaching him? i am in favor of that. i have said i m in favor of that. randy bryce, wisconsin democrat, challenging paul ryan. thank you for being here. have a great day. the man who helped martin luther king jr. write the i have a dream speech. that s next. there s nothing more important than your health. so if you re on medicare or will be soon, you may want more than parts a and b here s why. medicare only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. you might want to consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like any medicare supplement insurance plan, these help pick up some of what medicare doesn t pay. and, these plans let you choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. you could stay with the doctor or specialist you trust. or go with someone new. you re not stuck in a network. because there aren t any. so don t wait. call now to request your free decision guide and find the aarp medicare supplement plan that works for you. there s a range to choose from, depending on your needs and your budget. rates are competitive. and they re the only plans of their kind endorsed by aarp. like any of these types of plans, they let you apply whenever you want. there s no enrollment window. no waiting to apply. so call now. remember, medicare supplement plans help cover some of what medicare doesn t pay. you ll be able to choose any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. whether you re on medicare now or turning 65 soon, it s a good time to get your ducks in a row. duck: quack! call to request your free decision guide now. because the time to think about tomorrow is today. in america millions of young people grow up in the sunlight of opportunity. tragically and unfortunately there is another america. there are some things in our society and some things in our world for which i m proud to be mal-adjusted and i call upon all men of good will to be mal-adjusted to these things until the good society is realized. i have a dream. my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character. i have a dream. today we remember the words of martin luther king jr. and who better to do that than with clarence jones who helped write the last speech, the i have a dream speech. thank you for joining us. thank you. it is my pleasure. it is more than 50 years since the speech and the march on washington, how do you feel things stand right now in this country? i think things stand in a way that dr. king would be have concerned. that speech of course was aspirational. that speech was an effort to get the attention of the america the best that he could be. but here we are [ inaudible ] today. so we re in the we re in the shadow we re in the shadow of your microphone is not working so i m trying to pull mine over. we re in a shadow of this [ inaudible ], on april 4th, 1968, so how are we doing? there is a keep going. the nation the nation and its and the leadership of the government have developed a certainir relevancy to the really fundamental issues he was concerned with. what do you think? the president today is there is a debate on whether or not he s a racist. there is a debate on whether he represents all americans and not just the a small portion of americans. do you think people are wrong to wonder that? every white person who is living, born in the 20th or the 21st century presumptively is a racist based on the institution of slavery and the dokts rin of white supremacist. i say presumptively. i have white people in my family, okay. i m simply saying that to focus on whether or not president trump is a racist, i m here in a representative capacity speaking from the legacy of martin luther king jr. so i think he would say that dr. king is a work in progress. okay. so how do you how do you teach people? how do you teach a 71-year-old man? how do you get people to empathize, to understand the plight of somebody else? well first of all, you have to start with basic information. and it is a real hurdle. a real challenge because it is represented that he doesn t read, he doesn t so that is a real challenge. how can you teach someone, you have to you have to go back and understand what our what how our country was formed. that is the basic problem. young men and women, particularly young white men and women are coming up today, they have no idea and they re well white young men and women who have no idea. but they have no idea as to why certain values they have have been conditioned based on this institution of slavery and its person itious doctrine of white supremacy. so you have a whole generation of people that are ignorant and the example of that the example of that how can you really want to commemorate a statue of the confederacy for example. if you have any knowledge how could you do because what did the confederacy represent? it represented the insurrection, a treasonous insurrection because they wanted to continue the institution of slavery. you have hopeful going forward. i am hopeful. i have to be hopeful. because i don t want to be i don t want to be cynical. i have to be hopeful because the reverend martin luther king jr. was hopeful. he had the most profound belief in the goodness of america. he believed in the goodness of america. america owes him a great debt. as i say, we talk about the speech now, the i have a dream speech. he knew that 12% of the population, negroes, african-americans, there was no way that no matter how on the merits the case for ending racial segregation was, there was no way that 12 percent of the population would impose its will on 88% of the population. it is only when the 88% of the population, white people came to understand that it was in their self interest and so the i have a dream speech was an effort to point to america. this is what we could be. this is what we can be. all right. so you re dealing with you re dealing with you re dealing with a president trump is very difficult it is very difficult for me, for example, as i said in the venue, i cannot mention the word trump and king because it is somewhat of an oxymoron. clarence jones, here is for being hopeful. thank you for coming. it is my pleasure. and we ll be right back. it s time for your business of the week. nader hondo of ozzo bought said kids don t have to be just passive consumers of electronic toys. they should be creators. so he makes programmable robots to get kids to learn to code. now his business is taking off. for more watch your business. so we re a go? 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