People who are indignant about that claim by trump are accepting the claim that russia hacked the dnc, even though there is no evidence yet. there have been claims by intelligence officials, but those same intelligent officials gave us the scam that was the trump-russia collusion. >> tucker: mas stop you there? i think you're one of the more credible voices on this, and i do think we on politics, but you follow this carefully. at this point, december 3rd, 2019, we still don't have actual evidence that the russian government hacked the dnc? >> we have had claims from an intelligence process tha...