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i need a new republican nominee, i need a different face. i would prefer that with the democratic nominee as well, but yeah, for the republican nominee, i think we need a change of pace and i think that's the only way that the republicans will take the white house is if they have a new face in there. >> reporter: now, here's the thing, katy, i asked him if biden could win him back again in 2024, he said, yes, possibly, he would have to talk more to the moderates, talk more to independents like him. i asked, though, what would happen if there were a biden versus desantis match up that's where he gave the hmm, that might change things he might potentially lean desantis, but that is by no means a done deal. he's going to watch. he's going to see how things play out in the republican primary. the thing we have been hearing all around, trump versus biden
that listen, the first thing is the white house says they're not negotiating, that is the first hurdle here. the house is not going to pass a clean debt ceiling anytime soon, and possibly ever. we're going to go in june, july, august, at some point in the three months, we're going to go -- we're going to be in a crisis mode. i'll be honest with you, there's no real way to know how they get out of this. >> let's hope for your sake, garrett, it doesn't happen the last week of july or the first week of august i know you've got other plans those weeks. garrett is rolling his eyes, he knows. garrett, thank you very much i meant jake, sorry, jake, you've got plans thank you very much. coming up hunter biden's legal teams met with doj prosecutors today. what sources tell nbc news they were there to discuss. and one day into his reelection bid, we talk to independent voters in a key county in pennsylvania, what they are saying about president biden. ugh covid-19? i'm not waiting. if it's covid, paxlovid.
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the deposition as a legal team, youon play depositions unless you think they help your side. it's important to note that carroll's lawyers are satisfied with relying on the video taped deposition they don't feel the need, they have said in pleadings to have the former president testify expect those video tapes to be very compelling. >> joyce and lisa, ladies, thank you very much, again, a very heavy day in the defamation suit against donald trump by e. jean carroll. does kevin mccarthy have the votes? it seems like he does, what concessions he made to keep from president biden's inflation reduction act in place. plus, what hunter biden's legal team is doing at the justice department today we've got the details. and the new law bipartisan lawmakers are proposing to stop kids from using social media we're back in 60 seconds what will you do? will you make something better?
bucks county, a swing county outside philadelphia we're hearing a lot of what we heard in our nbc news poll, folks are concerned about biden's age. they're concerned about how the administration is doing on the economy from younger voters, i have been hearing a lot about climate. folks are worried that the administration hasn't really done enough, hasn't talked loudly enough about issues around climate change. but i want you to hear from one voter we met today, a gentleman named mo, he's an independent voter, a small business owner and he is frustrated with things as they stand right now. but i want to give a little bit of a twist to what he told me. take a listen, and then we'll talk on the other side >> i did biden i did biden. and i'm not happy with it. i did trump in 2016. i just -- i switched over because i felt like this country was losing itself. >> reporter: is there a chance that trump could win you back? >> no, for me to go republican,
them they have the rule, the vote for the vote p passed with every republican voting for it. democratic absences, which means republicans can afford to let three or four members vote no, go for a walk and have the bill passed they are feeling good about it as i stand here right now. >> talk to me about the concessions made in the late night meeting last night, and what it means for biden's inflation act. >> say it to me, santos, katy. george santos is a yes on this bill listen, here's a few things to note number one, this bill initially repealed the number of biofuel tax credits in the inflation reduction act. that really raised the ire of iowa republicans and minnesota republicans. those were mostly stripped and they blunted the impact of a bunch of them. those were the two main provisions they gutted a bunch of money from the inflation reduction act