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Transition of power. President trump, president elect biden, whose conferences and event coverage at cspan. Org. Thank you so much for being here. It is an honor to be here. I was delighted to read your book which i have decided. First book ive ever written. It must be challenging to create factual accounts of the pandemic, talk about that process. I can understand why people would think, why are you writing this . Im writing about the things we can fight about, i did really a step back, im not fighting about these as they unfold, not fighting about this or that government, im not talking on t...

Yes i can understand wire you writing about it now hasnt happened jet. Im learning about the things we can write about now. I deliberately took a step back. Im not writing as things unfold. Im not about this or that misstep by this so that government. Im not talking that level at all. What i am doing is standing back and saying okay, why pandemic why now. That is something i could do. Youve been reading my work, you know, i like many other people been writing about this for years. Weve been saying this is going to happen. These are the viruses we need to worry about. This is what we need to do...

Host thank you so much for being here, debora mackenzie. Much of your work over the years i was delighted to read your book which is the first that youve done in this way. Guest the first that ive written. Host it must have been challenging to create such a factual account of a pandemic while it is ongoing. Can you tell us about that . Guest i understand why people would think why are you writing about this now. I deliberately took a step back. As things unfold im not about this misstep or that by the government. Not that level of. What im doing is saying why a pandemic, why now and this is so...

Happened yet . In writing about what we can write about. Im not writing as they unfold or this step or that government not at that level at all. But i am standing back to say why a pandemic and why now . I could do that very quickly i have been writing about this we have been saying this will happen these are the viruses we need to worry about and what we need to do. Its already so obvious those predictions were right on and didnt do what we needed to do so this was the moment to repeat all that stuff at a time when people cant really understand and it really makes sense to them so the message...

Thank you so much for being here Debora Mackenzie its really an honor. I was really delighted to read your book. Is the first book ive ever written. Amazing, its also been challenging to create an account of a pandemic while his ongoing, can you tell me about that process. I understand why it has not happened yet, i am writing about the things we can write about now, i deliberately took a step back and i am not writing about things untold and about government, im not talking on that level auto i suppose it will be acquitted by that, im standing by and saying why now and thats something i could...