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When were you going to mention it! that was restraint i hadn t anticipated, it s been at least five minutes! you ve ruined the brilliant segue, it was so smooth before, alastair! we were saying kwasi kwarteng was interviewed by faisal islam, the bbc s economics editor, in washington today, we can have a little listen to what he said because he was asked about the possibility of changing his position on some of these things. are you going to u turn on big i measures, further big measures in your mini budget, as many seem to be speculating on right now? our position hasn t changed. i will come up with the medium term fiscal plan on the 31st of october, as i said earlier in the week, and there ll be more detail there. and you ll be chancellor and liz truss will be - prime minister this time next month? i absolutely, 100%, i m not going anywhere. that line, i m not going anywhere can be interpreted both ways, kind of an unfortunate thing to say. craig, on the specifics of the strategy ....
Where is rory stewart? alastair, craig, thank you so much for being here. so, we can now talk to marianna spring. hello, marianna. thank you for being here. lovely to see you on newscast. so i understand that americast, which is sister programme, sister pod, i think it s probably fair to say. definitely sister. i like it. close family relative. it has been doing an incredible project which i m a little bit fascinated by, which is about creating social media accounts to try and see some of the junk that gets thrown around. can you just explain it? because i m not very savvy, tech savvy. and those for those listening rather than watching, mariana has an improbable number of mobile phones in her hand! which is something to do with the project, right? let s just be clear. it is. i don t just wander around. no, i have got several old phones. i actually have five, but here i only have four. for anyone watching, in a blue peteresque fashion. what i ve done is create five different characters, ....
Are so bad and mps are starting to think like, is it possible - to save my seat? but certainly last week i there were a lot of people saying rishi sunak is not. the answer and the problem they may find themselves in is there s no figure - that they can all unite behind| like michael howard in 2000, whenever it was. loved having him as an opponent. so the next prediction then is when s the next general election? again, i think the answer to that is, honestly, - you can t say. it could be very soon. it could go the distance. my feeling is it s not- going to go the distance. so next spring, potentially? potentially. but i don t think it s - going to go the distance. no. look, if she goes, i think it would be very, very hard for the tories to do the same trick again. i think the country is sick to death of them. i think they re sick to death of hearing about politics the whole time. so i think if she goes, the election will be sooner. if she survives, it will be later. but i don t think we ....
Starmer, that it isn t enough just to have a tory party that s imploding. you need to offer a viable alternative. the point you made and i spend a lot of my time going around the country talking to voters and you do still hear this idea about, well, i d vote for labour because i don t like the conservatives, but is that enough? i mean, a positive vote. you still hear the accusation i don t know enough about keir starmer, who he is, what he believes in, what he stands for. do you do you agree with that? is it a fair criticism? i think it s overdone because this thing, for example, about keir being boring, i don t think he is boring. i think he s actually quite an interesting guy. and i also agree, craig and i were talking outside that, you know, boring might be quite good. boring might be sellable. keir starmer said on the today programme, they said, are you boring? he said, well, i don t think i d make a better prime minister if i d done a skydive, or something like that. exactly ....
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