dairy, new hampshire. that is tonight s cnn democratic presidential town hall site. outfront tonight hillary clinton and bernie sanders. they ll be facing tough questions from voters starting very soon. the stakes for both candidates could not be higher tonight. in just six days there will be voting in the new hampshire primary. i want to begin with the breaking news tonight. donald trump speaking today, charging ted cruz stole the iowa caucuses, threatening to sue. i probably will, yeah. what he did is unthinkable. he said the man left the race and he said it during the caucus. then the clarification went out of ben carson saying it was untrue, they got the statement and they didn t put it out. we re going to have much more on this in just a few moments, but we re returning to our top race. a two-horse race for the democratic nomination for president. we re awaiting hillary clinton about to speak to supporters at any moment right in nearby manchester, new hampshire. earlier today, she said she s very different than sanders say she s as progressive as he is but with a better record. his response, he s been questioning clintons credentials all together. most progressives do not raise millions of dollars from wall street. progressives were against the war in iraq. those are issues that, you know, secretary clinton has not been all that progressive about. it s a crucial thing in the democratic race for president. it sounds like the gloves are definitely off. we re going to see fireworks. they re both fighting incredibly hard to win this nomination. no doubt, erin. the gloves have come off to use that old metaphor, but the reason is this. they re both fighting for the definition, the heart and soul, of this democratic party. bernie sanders is only a new democrat. he s a democratic socialist from nearby vermont. hillary clinton trying to remind people that she s been a lifelong democratic and in the middle comes the tussle. who is the true progressive? we re going to win. reporter: that s the question hanging in the air tonight as hillary clinton and bernie sanders try and win over undecided new hampshire voters at the cnn presidential town hall meeting coming off the closest democratic caucus in iowa history. it was kind of a low blow when senator sanders said in response to a question, well, you know, maybe she s a progressive on some days. reporter: she was responding to sanders who questioned her progressive record. some days, yes. except when she announces she is a proud moderate. reporter: their sharp exchanges exploded on twitter. she said a 40 year record of progressive results boiled down to some days. i get accused of being kind of moderate and center. i plead guilty. reporter: sanders sent out a series of tweets and held his ground with cnn s wolf blitzer. you can be a moderate. that s fine. you can be a progressive. that s fine. but you can t be a moderate and a progressive. reporter: he said his rival has been far from progressive on gay marriage and the war on iraq. i applaud her for her work in many areas. you re looking at the guy who took on wall street. reporter: it s a deep rift and clinton fired back. i think it was a good day for progressives when i helped to get 8 million kids health care under the children s health insurance program. reporter: she said she s been fighting for progressive values during decades. among the things i ve heard the last few days about the contest between bernie sanders and myself is you have to vote with either your heart or your head. all i can tell you is i hope you use both. reporter: sanders has long held a double digit lead here, but clinton is fighting hard. when asked if sanders surge reminds him of barack obama, president clinton didn t hesitate. bernie sanders is not barack obama. reporter: the real voters who may make the difference are those independent voters, those famously fickle voters of new hampshire that are going to be tuning in tonight to watch this town hall. voters will across the country. thank you so much to jeff. now our senior political commentator david axelrod and dana bash. the stakes are incredibly high tonight and this is going to be a small intimate crowd. we re very much in what we call a crow s nest everybody. this is one of the final chances they re going to have to talk to voters en masse. sanders has a 23-point lead on secretary clinton. can he maintain that? can he build on that? i think one of the problems for him is that s an enormous lead in polling. as we saw in iowa, expectations are everything. i m sure there s a little anxiety in the sanders camp on whether they can maintain that. new hampshire voters are famousfamou famously contrary. things can change. that s why events like this are important. expectations are everything, da dana. that s got to be what bernie sanders is worried about. he has to significantly beat her to maintain his momentum. he s trying to lower expectations, which is not so easy to do right now. hillary clinton is desperacembs trying to lower expectations as well. i ll tell you i ve spent the last day and a half talking to voters mostly at republican rallies. there s been a lot of bernie sanders people there. it just is a reminder this is an open primary process. if you re a registered independent, you can vote either way. people who might be telling pollsters they support bernie sanders, never mind their vote going to hillary clinton. they could go to a republican. that s where the polls can also be kind of damaging for sanders because if they conclude that the action is over on the republican side and that the democratic race is over, these undeclared voters could migrate over to the republican side. that s right. that s fascinating because most people would say bernie sanders rally is the last place you d expect to see somebody who is generally republican. so what is it about bernie sanders? are they really checking him out as a possible person they would vote for? what are they doing at these rallies? i think this is one of those situations where it does. wait, what? how would somebody who is a democratic socialist be attracting people who would potentially vote for a ted cruz or even a donald trump? but if there are people who are just upset with the status quo, people who want things to change, people who are looking the message i m going to change washington and they re not out for you, there are different prescriptions to the same kind of problem that they re hearing defined by all these candidates. interesting talking about donald trump and bernie sanders have something in common. a lot of people who like them are angry and are angry at how things have been going. they like to watch it. we love it in the media. it s good for us. maybe not good for hillary clinton. some would say bad for the democratic party because it would show there s a schism. is that true? we had a long fight in 2008 and it didn t work out that. democratic voters wanted to see this young senator barack obama go toe to toe with a heavyweight for all 50 rounds. it s a little bit different now. a little thing i would be worried about if i were the clinton campaign is bernie sanders has raised a large amount in small donations. hillary clinton is reliant on what will be maxed out donors. she s going to have to be watching that as this goes on. the longer it goes, the more his ability to live off the fault of the lamb is going to be his benefit. that s true. whenever there s a moment for them, they report we just raised $20 million. that isn t coming from the lobbyists and the other sort of connected people that hillary clinton s donors rely on. it s just people who are out there and who are really energized and that could keep going. thank you both very much. something he s used to his advantage. i haven t seen any progressives who are getting so much money from wall street. thank you both so much. next, we have the breaking news. donald trump saying ted cruz stole the election in iowa. the cruz campaign s co-chairman is going to be my guest next and is going to answer these tough questions about what exactly happened that night in iowa. this is live pictures right now. the scene of the live democratic town hall tonight in dairy, new hampshire. we are live and counting down when we come back. soup and sandwich and clean and real, and feeling good, sort of. and 500 calories or less. the clean pairings menu. at panera. food as it should be. i m here to get the lady of the house back on her feet. and give her the strength and energy to stay healthy. who s with me?! yay! the complete balanced nutrition of great tasting ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. ensure. take life in! all across the state the economy is growing,arts today. with creative new business incentives, the lowest taxes in decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained. and in albany, the nanotechnology capital of the world. let us help grow your company s tomorrow, today at business.ny.gov as we age, certain nutrients longer than ever. become especially important. from the makers of one a day fifty-plus. one a day proactive sixty-five plus. with high potency vitamin b12 and more vitamin d. 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i probably will, yeah. what he did is unthinkable. reporter: the real estate mog mogul s accusations came hours after his concession speech on monday. i m trying to be statesmanlike. reporter: trump was already stewing. ben carson was dropping out of the race, a potential boost to the texas senator. when they said ben carson is out of the race and come vote for him, i thought that was terrible. reporter: based on the fraud committed by senator ted cruz during the caucus, he said a new election should take place or cruz s results nullified. cruz fired back. maybe donald trump should go back to iowa and join the democrats. the texas senator did admit his campaign made a mistake. unfortunately, they did not forward the subsequent story that was ben s campaign clarifying that he was continuing the campaign and was not cancelling the campaign. so i apologize to ben for that. reporter: still he later dismissed his arch rival for having a trumper tantrum. it is no surprise that donald trump is throwing yet another temper tantrum. my girls are 5 and 7. i ve got to tell you caroline and katherine are better behaved than a presidential candidate. reporter: sarah palin slammed the cruz camp for what she called dirty politics. at the center of the controversy carson weighed in too revealing that cruz had apologized to him. he could very well have not known about it, but it is obvious there were people in his organization who not only knew about it, but who carried it out, who executed it. now as for that talk of a lawsuit, trump s campaign manager did not rule it out to me in a phone call interview earlier today. the iowa republican party certified its results from the iowa caucuses on monday night showing ted cruz won by roughly 6,000 votes. donald trump is running late this evening. he should be out within an hour. now there are those questioning whether those would have gone to ted cruz or not. we re going to go through this in detail here. here is what ted cruz said today. that was a news story cnn had posted it. our political team passed it on to our supporters. it was breaking news that was significant to our campaign. ben carson put out a statement saying he was not in fact suspending his campaign. i apologize to him for our team not passing out that information. that s not true. how did this start? take everyone back to the beginning. it started with a series of tweets from chris moody about what the carson campaign was doing in that ben carson was going back home. we can read those tweets for you, i think. effectively what he says is carson won t go to new hampshire or south carolina, but will head to florida for some r&r. ben carson s campaign tells me he plans to stay in the race beyond iowa no matter how the results are tonight. folks, ben carson is making a brief stop in florida tonight. his campaign says he ll be back on the campaign trail by wednesday. obviously nothing in the reporting there that says that ben carson is dropping out of the race or has any intention to make an announcement. he had a tweet. he says he plans on staying in the race no matter what the results are. then he waited an hour. guys, i made it very clear. i m going to make it clear again he s not getting out of the race. what is cnn saying now? so in the interim, the ted cruz campaign comes out with its statement, which sends a message to its supporters indicating a major announcement is coming. carson is getting off the campaign trail, effectively telling them he s going to be dropping out of the race. ted cruz s claims about cnn are false. our correspondent reported the information provided to him by the carson campaign. dr. carson s staff informed cnn that he would return home to take a deep breath before resuming his activities on the campaign trail. so you have spoken to the cruz campaign. we just heard ted cruz today saying that he was right. subsequently there was a clarification, that was not true. what is the cruz campaign now saying to you? i ran into his campaign manager. they re continuing to stand by it. we took what cnn reported and we put it out there. we never suggested he was going to be getting out of the campaign. if you go back and look at what the cruz campaign sent out to its supporters, it was suggesting that carson was coming off the campaign trail. dylan, thank you very much. i m going to read this e-mail that ted cruz s campaign sent that night because it s very clear. it argued for people to go vote for ted cruz who were going to vote for ben carson. let s go now to ted cruz s campaign co-chair. let me start off here with a very basic question here. did the cruz campaign do something wrong? well, i m a major surrogate for the cruz campaign, especially in iowa and at the awe ka caucuses iowa, i never made a statement about carson getting out of the race. i don t know one voter in iowa who has come out and said i heard this message and so therefore i changed my vote. rush limbaugh is saying that marco rubio s campaign was pushing it. cnn made a report. it is big news when a presidential candidate says i m not leaving iowa to go to new hampshire and south carolina. i m going back to florida. cnn did report that. he s been very open to the public. he said, listen, i apologize for not clarifying or having the campaign clarify that he s just making a pit stop in florida. but this has been blown out of proportion because donald trump lost the race. three candidates hold on one second. before we get to the donald trump part of it i know we have a bit of a delay. bob, let me just finish here. i want to get to the bottom of this first. putting donald trump aside, the tweets that came out from cnn were carson won t go to new hampshi hampshire, south carolina, but will instead go to florida for some r&r and then washington, d.c. for the prayer breakfast. he ll continue the campaign no matter what the results are tonight. how could the cruz justify an e-mail thabout this? how could that be acceptable in any situation? i think two things. the reason it was a news story, a travel schedule of a candidate is not a news story in and of itself. the fact he wasn t going immediately to new hampshire and south carolina is why cnn made it a news story in the first place. this happened minutes before the iowa caucuses. it was a tweet from somebody associated with the campaign to say did you see this. then they moved on it. ted cruz, he s a very stand up guy, a man of integrity. he called dr. carson immediately, apologized if they had any part in this whatsoever. the three candidates that overperformed in the poll numbers are carson, rubio, and cruz on caucus night. there s no show to say it dented carson whatsoever. the candidate who lost the race is the one who is making a big deal about this. as ted cruz says, he s having a trumper tantrum because he can t lose. he s a sore loser. bob, again, back to the point where that e-mail was sent out. that e-mail was saying, look, don t worry about carson. come vote for cruz instead. there was not a clarification that came out immediately during caucuses to fix that. even today you heard ted cruz saying i apologize to ben carson for our team not passing on the subsequent clarification. again, just to make it clear there was no subsequent clarification. the report was never inaccurate. the report always said ben carson plans to stay in the race beyond iowa no matter what the results are tonight. what i don t understand why we can t get a very clear we re sorry. this e-mail was wrong and never should have gone out. erin, i think you have to take a look at the timeline of the story. the caucuses started at 7:00 that night. cnn initially made the report it was like two minutes before the caucuses. 7:43. which would have been 6:43 in the state of iowa with caucuses starting at 7:00. people were in lines that were caucusing. i don t know of any voter that was impacted by it whatsoever. i think what cruz did is he took responsibility for it. it s being the story today because donald trump lost iowa after he said is all he does is win. the first contest he lost. that s why we re talking about this today when there is a lot of issues and why ted cruz is doing in new hampshire. i m in south carolina right now. people want principal conservative leadership today. that s why they re rallying around ted cruz. do you think it raises a question of character and integrity that s important for people to understand? it s ted cruz s campaign. everything that comes from it is a direct reflection of him and his leadership on the campaign. he says inform caucus goers of this news. the news was inaccurate. why doesn t he say i m sorry it shouldn t have never been sent. he s blaming it on cnn s reporting. why not just a pure apology? erin, the report that was read at the beginning of this segment of tonight s forecast was a fairly lengthy report. we live in a 140 character world where tweets are going out. there s a tweet going on out be cnn. there s a screen shot by cnn. you re minutes before the iowa caucuses. if a candidate says he s not going to new hampshire or south carolina, that is big news. so campaigns are hyper active. again i believe ted cruz has taken responsibility for this. i think the reason it remains a story today is because donald trump lost the iowa kcaucuses. i used to coach. they blame it on other people. i think american people are going to have a higher standard than that. bob, thank you very much. i appreciate you re taking the time, sir, tonight. next, two gop candidates did drop out of the race today. who is out and who might gain from that? plus, clinton trailing sanders in new hampshire by double digits. 23 points by some polls. the big question is can she win new hampshire again? we re counting you down to our democratic town hall where i am in new hampshire in less than two hours. we ll be back in just a moment. do you sign invoices likeour fathey re autographs?en, then you might be gearcentric. right now, get 25% off all tul® brand pens and pencils! office depot officemax. gear up for great®. we re live in dairy, new hampshire, in 90 minutes. bernie sanders and hillary clinton are going to sit down for a live town hall event taking voter questions. rick santorum announcing he is endorsing marco rubio for president. rubio has momentum right now coming into the new hampshire primary making him a prime target for attacks. dana bash is outfront. reporter: there s not much mystery in marco rubio s pitch to new hampshire voters. if you vote for me and i m on our nominee, i will unite the conservative movement and the republican party. reporter: he s going hard for mainstream republicans. that s why other candidates who need a new hampshire win to survive are going after him. marco rubio gives a great speech. he really does. he s a nice young man. but he has been nothing but a first-term united states senator. marco rubio came in third place in a caucus state and we re all supposed to bow out? that s absolutely absurd. reporter: jeb bush took out a full-page ad. rubio s response i want to do as well as i can in new hampshire. i m not running against any of the other candidates. reporter: marco rubio is trying to walk a fine line. he doesn t want to seem to cookcoo cook cookcoo cocky, but he does want to exude an air of confidence. i would be okay with any of the candidates as long as they cannot allow hillary clinton into the white house. i think marco rubio is probably, in my opinion, the best chance of that. reporter: he s not alone. lots of voters coming into rubio events say they plan to vote strategically. i like them all, but they don t seem to have a chance. is it you feel like you don t want to waste your vote? well, i don t want to see donald trump get in. i feel if i vote for christie, kasich, a jeb bush, yeah. that gives trump a better chance of winning. reporter: but not everyone is so sure rubio is their guy. are you considering voting for him now? absolutely. it s between him and governor kasich. you just heard marco rubio speak. what do you think? i m not a big fan of marco rubio. dana is here with me along with our political director. you see all this fight for the establishment, but now you have rick santorum endorsing marco rubio. rick santorum could have gone another way, could have gone ted cruz, so his support was not high, but is that something that could significantly help the rubio momentum? it could help. because if people are looking for negatives on marco rubio, he s too young, he s too inexperienced, well, now you have somebody who is an experienced senator who says he thinks marco rubio is the best guy. the reason he was endorsing, he said because primarily of his foreign policy chops. so that is actually interesting. but when it comes to marco rubio, rick santorum, he did win the iowa caucuses four years ago. he does still have a reservoir of support, particularly among movement conservatives. those are the kind of people marco rubio needs whether or not he s a mainstream guy or not. it s almost as if he s trying to go as a crossover candidate. he can reach those evangelicals and moderates and more independents. rick santorum s endorsement, i like to do this math on the poll here in new hampshire. if you add up the establishment candidates, you put marco rubio in there, kasich, jeb bush, you get 36%. 36%. trump 31%. ted cruz 13%. what does that say? when you add them all up, there s a lot of people who do want an establishment candidate? it says marco rubio wishes he had all that added up. this santorum thing is good news for him because he has six news cycles that marco rubio wants to keep giving this narrative m moment momentum, momentuomentum. he s hoping kasich, bush, and christie start bleeding support. he wants to add up all those numbers. it s the only way right now to defeat donald trump. what about others who are trying to do that? john kasich, the governor of ohio, had a big surge here in new hampshire. he did. he s effectively a resident of new hampshire right now. i m not sure the people of ohio will like hearing that. he s been camped out here trying to be that guy that shows new hampshire he can listen to their problems, that he s a regular guy, that he can, you know, be the reasonable candidate, but this is it for him. even he admits he has not he doesn t have very much organization going forward. marco rubio does. he s really banking on south carolina. and he s got more beyond that. people here are very sophisticated, the voters. they see that and they know that. they don t want to not vote for marco rubio but. we ve been seeing a year of anger, not wanting people in elected positions, but now that donald trump was pierced a little bit in iowa, seeing now if the electorate reverts back to, hey, a governor that s been in charge and has executive experience, maybe we should have one of those in the mix as well. thank you both very much. outfront next, hillary clinton and bernie sanders, the war of words getting hotter and hotter today. will they turn it up at tonight s town hall? 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(train wheels on tracks) it had no mouth, but it spoke to me. it said, rocky mountaineer: all aboard amazing . welcome back from dairy, new hampshire, as we re counting you down to cnn s new hampshire democratic town hall. voters have a question to directly put questions to the candidates, hillary clinton and bernie sanders. today hillary clinton is fighting from behind. she s trailing bernie sanders by more than 20 points from the latest poll. she obviously, i know, had an event right to the last moment. obviously coming here to get ready. yes. here s the thing. the polling is pretty incredible, right? she s got a big deficit right now. in 2008, she was behind when she came to new hampshire, behind barack obama. she managed to pull it into a victory and did a big swing. could she do it this time? we re going to try. it s going to be tough. this is home field advantage type situation for senator sanders. he s from a boarding state. sons of new england always do well in the new hampshire primary going back decades. i think the only exception to that was senator kennedy and that s when he was running against an incumbent president. we did three events today. new hampshire has been good to the clintons over the course of their careers, have made bill clinton the comeback kid in 1992, propelled hillary clinton in 2008. despite the fact she s trailing, she s going to work her heart out because new hampshire means so much to her. let s talk about this, the latest poll. i know polls can be right. polls can be wrong. in this state, very unpredictable because independent voters can vote for whomever they d like. down 22 points, hillary clinton. sanders at 57. clinton at 34. you have an outright win. you re shooting for that. but what kind of a gap would be a win for you? the polls do show we re behind new hampshire. we have some head winds here. if we put hillary clinton in front of new hampshire voters, we think that the choice they ll increasingly have to come to a decision about is who is the democrat that can best get things done, protect the gains under president barack obama. hillary clinton is with one who has that record as first lady of the united states. i think we can eat into that margin right now that senator sanders has over us. in terms of differences between secretary clinton and senator sanders, he laid out what he says a major difference between hillary clinton and him. here he is. hillary clinton announced the results $25 million coming into her super pac. 15 million of that came from wall street. that is a very significant difference. our campaign is funded by the people to a significant degree. her campaign is funded by wall street and big money interest. facts are facts. bernie sanders hasn t gotten any money from wall street. it s all from individual donors. secretary clinton has gotten a lot of money from big donors and big money wall street. it hasn t affected her policy positions one jot. if you look at her career during her tenure, she went after wall street. she has the toughest, farre esr reaching policies in regulating wall street. the idea she can be bought is ridiculous. thank you very much. the clinton campaign really focusing in on trying to narrow that deficit in recent polling. 57% to bernie sanders in the most recent cnn poll. 34% for secretary clinton. they re trying to narrow that. they re shooting for a straight win. if they can get a straight win, that s their goal. let s talk about the bernie sanders side of the story here. we have a bernie sanders supporter and the author of the essential bernie sanders. he s going to be with me in just a second. it s been getting tonally much more negative over the past 24, 48 hours. you see bernie sanders with no fear at all about striking out at secretary clinton. certainly, it has gotten he s been fighting back. he just said earlier today, look, wall street, she gets money from wall street. i don t. you just heard me talk about that with her press secretary. facts are facts. she gets money from wall street. he doesn t. h the facts are, as you point out, hillary clinton has had a huge amount of money from wall street. $600,000 from goldman sachs. she s gotten money from the pharmaceutical industry and the drug companies. the american people are concerned about the connection to corporation money. bernie sanders has been clear from the very beginning. if you and i had stood here in june and said bernie sanders would have tied in the iowa caucuses, be ready to have a substantial lead in new hampshire, have after iowa $3 million raised from contributions four out of those ten contributions were new voters. we feel very good about that message. when the clinton campaign says bernie sanders is a hillary clinton campaign say, he s a favored son. that gives him a benefit and an advantage, some might say. does that mean, though, that what he does here can t be replicated? first of all, he tied in iowa. he s not a favorite son in iowa, did extremely well. some say, when we count the actual votes, which iowa doesn t do, bernie sanders got more individual people to vote for him in the caucuses. new hampshire is very unusual and it s in a state of its own. it s very independent. people in new hampshire make their own decisions. it has nothing to do with home field advantage. all right, jonathan tasini, thank you very much. outfront next, i ll be joined by anderson cooper, who s going to be moderating. that s next. i take pictures of sunrises. it s my job and it s also my passion. but with my back pain i couldn t sleep. so i couldn t get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12-hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i m back. aleve pm for a better am. all right. breaking news to update you on this moment. bill cosby will stand trial on felony sexual assault charges. a judge in pennsylvania in a ruling just moments ago denying a request by cosby s attorneys to have criminal charges against the 78-year-old actor thrown out of court. the charges against cosby stem from allegations first made in 2005. with today s ruling, the case will now move forward. a crucial development. more than 50 women have accused cosby of sex crimes. cosby, of course, was once one of the most revered actors in the nation and has vehemently denied all accusations against him. it s going to be a showdown tonight, the democratic candidates with one of their last chances before the voting starts here in new hampshire. in just about an hour, hillary clinton and bernie sanders going to be facing off in our presidential town hall. anderson cooper will be moderating. anderson, it s a very intimate room. you have a small we heard opera house, we didn t know what that meant. it s a small opera house. it s a small opera house. you ve had a chance to get a sense of what they care about. what do they want to ask these candidates? the new hampshire audiences and town halls are very smart, they re very well informed. so there s a lot of very specific questions, you know, we ask the people who come up with their own questions, we ask them to at least show us the questions in advance, so there s not a lot of duplication. so you don t have ten people asking the exact same question. that s really the level of involvement we have in on this. but they re very detailed questions, very specific, you know, covering all the topics you would think a lot of democrats would be interested in, education, there s climate change, there s a whole range of subjects. but you also have independent voters who have said that they plan to vote in the democratic primary and are eligible to vote. either way? so in the room tonight are going to be democrats and also registered independents who say they re going to be voting next tuesday in the democratic primary. so they re going to be able to ask questions as well. and some of the people who ask questions have already decided what candidate they like, and many of them, in fact, are undecided and could be swayed one way or another. so it s a big night for these candidates. it is, and the intimate room makes it even more personal and special, what you re going to be doing. anderson will be hosting this. one of these final moments they have to make a final pitch to voters. thank you so much for joining us. our special coverage from the cite of tonight s democratic town hall continues after this. moderate to severe crohn s disease is tough, but i ve managed. except that managing my symptoms was all i was doing. and when i finally told my doctor, he said humira is for adults like me who have tried other medications but still experience the symptoms of moderate to severe crohn s disease. and that in clinical studies, the majority of patients on humira saw significant symptom relief. and many achieved remission. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened; as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment, get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. four score and seven years ago, our [train horn blares]th . to the continent. [claps] . a new nation. announcer: don t wait until presidents day to get a better night s sleep. during sleep train s presidents day sale save up to $300 on beautyrest and posturepedic, get three years interest-free financing on tempur-pedic, plus same-day delivery, and sleep train s love your mattress guarantee. sleep train s presidents day sale is on now. your ticket to a better night s sleep good evening. thanks for joining us from the historic operahouse in derry, new hampshire. what a night. just an hour from now, down there on the stage behind me, bernie sanders and hillary clinton will face the voters in a cnn town hall. i ll be moderating. it promises to be a high point of a very high-drama day out on the campaign trail, for democrats and republicans. today the campaigning in both parties ramped up. rand paul, rick santorum, they dropped out. donald trump accused ted cruz of stealing the iowa caucuses, in part by playing dirty tricks on ben carson. cruz fired back at trump. meantime, on the democratic side, some sparring over who s a progressive and who isn t. it began yesterday, with a question for senator sanders about whether his opponent truly is. listen. some days, yes. except when she announces that she is a proud mode.
john kasich, you ask? he is not in nevada. he s holding a town hall right now. you re looking at john kasich in virginia. for the democrats, hillary clinton and bernie sanders are headed east to south carolina preparing for battle there. cnn s latest poll of polls shows clinton with a commanding lead in that state. sanders is absolutely not backing down, trying to build momentum as they race toward supertuesday. we ll have all that for you, plus this. president obama is getting ready to speak before the nation s governors at an event at the white house this morning. he s expected to take questions from those governors and with republican governors in the room, you can expect that q and a could get a little interesting. we ll bring you the president s remarks live when they happen. let s get started, though, with the republican rumble in nevada. cnn s chris frates is in las vegas with more on this. they re fanning out across nevada, most of them, chris. that s right. you have all the top winners from south carolina. donald trump, ted cruz, marco rubio, all coming to the state today for their last-minute push. nevada is an unpredictable state. it s difficult to poll here and the organization figuring out who is actually going to come out to vote is difficult. you have the three candidates making their push. donald trump wants to cement his lead atop the gop field with another win. cruz arguing he s the only true conservative in the race, and then rubio saying he s the only one who can unite the factions and take on the democrats in november. it s tough to poll here in nevada, but cnn did a poll last week that showed donald trump up 45 %, and then you had marco rubio at 19% and cruz at 17% in a virtual tie. you can see the fight between cruz and rubio in south carolina to continue here in nevada as they compete to take on donald trump, and donald trump not taking rubio for granted as he starts to ascend in nevada. questioning his eligibility to run for president, we saw that in iowa. ted cruz was questioned about whether or not because he was born in canada, whether he could run for president. donald trump doing that again to marco rubio because his parents were from cuba. rubio born in miami, says of course i m a u.s. citizen. i m eligible. we re seeing some of that same tough, dirty campaigning in nevada as donald trump turns some of his fire on marco rubio. this is only bound to get more heated and nasty before polls open tomorrow. that s south carolina sentiment traveling with them to nevada, it seems. chris, thanks. joining us, ben ferguson j jeffrey lor, and dana bash. ben, we re going to put you on the spot. you re no fan of donald trump. let us stipulate that. the question for you isn t why should trump be defeated by how. he s got a delegate lead right now, 67 to 1. it is early, but he has a delegate states. how is he stopped? well, one, you have to have a smaller field. it s obvious that donald trump supporters are solidified right around the 30% mark. that s good enough with a field as big as it is. i don t see how a guy like ben carson has a viable shot for the white house, a viable road, and i think a lot of people gain respect for jeb bush. he dropped out as soon as he realized this is not going to happen. for donald trump, you want everyone to stay in. that s how you re going to get your gains. it allows you to keep the focal point on you, even saying absurd and ridiculous things like marco rubio may not be an american citizen. i mean, this is how low we ve gotten, yet his supporters say we don t care what when he says or does. we want him to win. if he has to say rubio isn t a citizen, so be it. you have to be putting pressure and kasich and carson to drop out. and jeffrey, you clearly think that trump should be unstoppable at this point as a supporter of mr. trump. what do you think of what ben says? i respectfully disagree with my friend, ben, here. i think if both ben carson and cruz were to drop out that a good bit of their support would go to trump. i don t buy into the notion that if everybody dropped out but rubio, all the support would go to rubio. i don t see that. i think there is an anti-establishment fury running through the republican party at this moment, and given just donald trump and an establishment candidate, they will into, the majority of them, i think, or at least a substantial number to donald trump. so, dana, you covered the republicans like glue, we like to say. there s been a movement in the last 24 hours in south carolina of establishment endorsements flocking to rubio. you know what? the list is going to grow, right? so the question is what does that do for marco rubio? what is his plan? how hard is he working? what s his path forward? well, it s not surprising since he s the only true establishment guy left. of course, you have john kasich, but he s not running as strongly as marco rubio. so what s his path forward? i think that s an open question given the fact that you do, as we heard, you do have more than one rubio opponent in the field. it s not just donald trump and marco rubio. it s donald trump and ted cruz who has a significant amount of support as well and marco rubio. i really do think it s not clear who is right, ben or jeffrey. it s not clear whether or not with the two or even three-person race all of the voters who are not trump supporters now will go to the anti-trump candidate or not. but one thing i think we should underscore when we re talking about delegates is that south carolina on saturday night was pretty remarkable. donald, it is not winner take all. it hasn t been since 2000. but donald trump got all of the delegates. he got all the delegates. it was proportional and didn t matter. i do think that we have to give credit where credit is due. in a state like south carolina which is pretty diverse, he got all the delegates. and the states, the states next week on super tuesday look a lot like south carolina in their make y their makeup. to that point, when you look at ted cruz who really, a lot of his candidacy in the early states was on winning over evangelical support. trump won them 34 to 26 in south carolina. can cruz beat trump going forward anywhere if he can t win those voters back over? yes. if the field is smaller. this needs to be a three-man race. i think rubio and cruz both are viable options and candidates if it s a three-way race. as long as it stays a larger field, no. it will be hard for them to beat him in a state because donald trump supports are solid. he was right when he said i could go in the street and shoot a man and no one would leave me. he can question another man s eligibility for president in rubio who is obviously an american citizen, and people say yes, donald, giver us more of that. he s defied all the logic in politics. his people love him. as long as it stays the large eer field, he ll continue to win, and others will have to pick up delegates where they can in proportional states. otherwise it will be donald trump s to win or lose. the smaller field theory, cruz and rubio aren t going anywhere. this smaller field, even if you get it, i don t think kasich is going anywhere either, but leave that aside, if it s a three man race, donald trump still has a huge number of delegates for another month. but i think if you start to get this smaller, people start to really look at the issue of, okay, am i going to want donald trump as president who has supported planned parenthood and given money to the clintons and said that other people aren t even american citizens. that s when people really start to look and say do i want him to be president, and i think that s when you see one of these two candidates start to take a lead. i think what ben is saying is a very good point. if you listen to the anybody but trump republican point of view, and there are a lot of them out there, they will say over and over again, his ceiling is 30 to 35%. that s the reason why he s winning because the rest of the field is so split up. but there s no way to prove that until and unless the field isn t split up and john berman, to your point, marco rubio isn t going anywhere. ted cruz isn t going anywhere. john kasich ha has the ohio he s the governor of ohio, has the ohio primary on march 15th which is winner take all. it will be very difficult to see him going anywhere before that. when you lay it out that way, dana, it looks like the field, other than donald trump, they need something to happen. could it come in the debate on thursday? very possibly. could it come in a big endorsement, the biggest one lingering out there is mitt romney. why hasn t he come out yet, do you think? what are you hearing about? it seems the worst kept secret he will endorse, but why not now? they need help now. he s a very meticulous person. we know that from watching him over two election cycles. until now he hasn t done it because he s had lots of friends in the race. chris christie was in the race who is a real friend. jeb bush, other people who he knows well and he didn t want to do that to one of his friends. now, you know, he has maybe a relationship with john kasich but it s not the same. i think you re right. it s entirely plausible, probable, if he endorses he would do to rubio, but i m not so sure that s going to make such a big statement. it might i don t think it will help that much. jeffrey, go ahead? i would ad add one thing to da dana. if mitt romney does endorse, i think endorse marco rubio, i don t think that helps rubio. i think all that does is further mark him as the establishment guy and hurt him. i agree. go ahead, ben. if i was the rubio campaign right now, i would want to delay a mitt romney endorsement as long as i possibly could, especially, i wouldn t want it during the sec pry marry and southern states. i think it hurts you. late but other northern states also. and that s where it would help you, but i think it would be debt ri mental in the south. they don t like him in the south. they voted for santorum in the last election. i don t think i would want that endorsement right now. only further allowing donald trump to say i m the outsider, the guy everyone is up against. that s the one thing you see in every exit poll so far is that s what they want. change. throw the bums out and the outsider candidate. great to see you. thanks so much. the moving band wagon. thanks, guys. one programming note. the five remaining republican candidates meet head to head. this is a huge deal. this could be one of the last big chances that marco rubio and ted cruz get to knock donald trump down. this is a gop debate, cnn is hosting it thursday night in houston, texas. wolf blitzer is the moderator, 8:30 p.m. on thursday. any moment now, president obama inside the white house, he will address the national association of governors. we are told the president is going to take questions from the governors. if you re a governor, what would you ask president obama? 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reporter: good morning. no one knows better than hillary clinton how fast a race can change. she thought that she would be eyeing the general election by this point. she s still locked in a democratic primary fight. they re taking it seriously in south carolina. there s no question she comes into south carolina with so many advantages. particularly among african american voters who we talk about a lot, made up some 55% of the democratic vote here in the 2008 primary which she lost. even inside of that, the most important constituency here in south carolina over the next week are african american women voters. that s why the clinton campaign is aggressively rolling out a new advertisement. campaigning with mothers who have children to died in gun violence. bernie sanders developed by a prayer breakfast meeting, and he told voters, do not let them decide for you. decide for yourself. let s take a listen. we ve got a lot of work in front of us. do not allow people to say to you, think small. we can t do this. it s too big an idea. no. if we take that mentality, nothing would have ever been accomplished. if we had that mentally of thinking small, do you think we would have an african american as president of the united states today? if you were to say, this country will never overcome this racism. can t be done. do you think women today would have all kinds of opportunities that they didn t have 100 years ago? 100 years ago women couldn t vote in america. talking about the women s vote in america. that s important here. really, the exact voters who both the candidates are going after here. the standards campaign is looking ahead toward super tuesday. going into this next week, that town hall tomorrow night in south carolina with bernie sanders and hillary clinton, so important here. their final chance to make the chase to voters and answer questions have voters who may still be undecided. interesting. we know bernie sanders is looking ahead past south carolina. he said he s looking forward to campaigning in the super tuesday states. 911ing us is the former white house director and brad woodhouse. it s great to see you guys. good morning. good morning. jumping right off of what jeff was talking about, the key vote. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are going for right now in south carolina, african american voters, women african american voters. when you take a look at the entrance polls from nevada, it shows you has a significant advantage there. clinton s 76% support in nevada, sanders, 22%. that s a huge delta between the two. for a white candidate. huge. i wouldn t say bernie sanders is less than white. fair point. does bernie sanders have time to turn this bernie sanders before voters go to the polls in south carolina? no. i think there s a good reason that bernie sanders in his nevada speech started talking about super tuesday and the march 1st primaries. he doesn t want south carolina to be seen as a make or break moment for his campaign. it was never going to be a state where he did very well. the demographics are wrong, and it s a state where hillary clinton has spent time, where she has a lot of deep support, and where her message which is increase dpli around the intersection of race, gender, and economic injustice, is working. so i would say the sanders campaign is going to compete there because they understand he has to compete, but that they re looking very much past it toward the march 1st primaries. you talk about race, gender and justice. there s a new ad that hits those points incredibly hard. clinton is doing events and putting ads up with mothers of people who have been killed and involved in policealtercations. she says their names. unarmed. the man did nothing wrong. and makes their mothers fight for justice her own. she speaks for a city poisoned by indifference. we need action now. and stands with the president against those who would undo his achievements. just like you think this ad is the message and you think it resonates? i think that this ad is clearly the message. if you look at when she started shifting slightly in her message, i think very effecti effectively, right at the end of new hampshire and then into nevada where it became a message that, yes, economic unjustice is a piece of this, but there are other unjustices out there. we want to break down the barriers. that helped her in nevada in terms of staving out of a sanders victory had he won the caucuses. it s more authentic to who she is and her record than maybe some of the messages she s been trying in the past. authenticity works, as bernie sanders. yes. exactly. brad, what does nevada tell you for south carolina and broaden it out. take it to super tuesday which is where we ll see more competition between sanders and clinton so folks think. what does nevada tell you? well, first of all, i think nevada tells you that bernie sanders is not the candidate of momentum. i think people thought after new hampshire that he was the candidate of momentum, that he would tie or win in nevada. i think what we found is that he was a regional candidate in new hampshire. a poll came out showing he has an 86 to 10 lead in vermont. i think that explains why he did so well in new hampshire and why he s going to massachusetts today. he s trying to find any friendly terrain he can. but it s not just the demographics of south carolina that don t do well or don t aren t strong for bernie sanders. it s a whole bunch of states in march. it s tennessee. it s arkansas. it s alabama. in fact, i think it s most of the democratic primary contests that you have coming up aren t suited well to his campaign. well, i mean, there is massachusetts. there is vermont. spending a lot of money in colorado and minnesota. those are places he thinks he can do well. but john hang on. there s another thing bernie sanders thinks will help. it s about a state of honesty. clinton clint hillary clinton still has a problem convincing voter she s honest. she gets killed on the issue. people say honesty is an issue for them. they go to sanders, and she talks about this. she talked to jake tapper about it. listen. i think there s an underlying question that maybe is really in the back of people s minds, and that is is she in it for us or is she in it for herself. i think that s a question that people are trying to sort through. so is there a way to fix that or do you work around that, brad? well, look, whether or not there s a way to fix it, you re just talking about one measure of a candidate. look, there were polls came out last week that showed she was leading in 10 of the 12 states that hold contest between march 1st and march 8th th. in all of those states with exception of vermont, she by far wins in commander in chief. she wins on another measure, he wins on another measure. she s winning more states and more delegates, notwithstanding that one result. i think we can overstate how important that the. he won that 82-12. she won the nevada caucus by 6 percentage points. what in the end did it really matter? th in the end they ll vote with people who can braeak barriers. bernie sanders, i don t know, breaking dishes, i guess. do you think folks are overstating the part of honest and trustworthy characteristic? that s always the stand out. if people trust you and they can look you in the eye and if you re someone who will be in their corner, they can trust what s coming out of your mouth, if it s not a problem in the primaries, is it a problem in the general? primaries are totally different from the general election. one of the things that happens in the koursz of primaries is that more and more voters start tuning in as the contest moves to bigger, you know, it s really a national contest, and increasingly more voters tune in. people start making judgments about her based on how she s winning the primaries and conducting herself. the broader general election audience is not paying a lot of attention to the primaries right now. i think everyone who kind of tries to project out and say this is a problem, that is a problem, there s a lot of campaign to go. back in october, everyone was saying the primary was over. this is someone who has been in the public eye for so long. to change that brand, to change that measure? i think the fact that she talked about it so openly with jake on sunday was an example of how she s decided to confront it directly which is better than trying to deny it exists or laughing it off or saying it doesn t matter. if she confronts it honestly, it s the first step forward people saying she gets there s a problem. maybe i want to listen to her. i think she recognizes it and her decision to talk about it is the kind of thing you have to do in order to earn the credibility with voters. i think president obama hang on one second. president obama is speaking. let s listen. get to host for you. like me, some of you might be in the final year of your last term, working as hard as you can to get as much done as possible for the folks that you represent. fixing roads, educating our children, helping people retrain, appointing judges, the usual stuff. [ laughter ] those of you who have been in office far while have always witnessed all the progress that we have made together and it s been a partnership. the millions of new jobs created, millions of people newly covered with health insurance, the new energy projects that are popping up all across every state that s represented here. i do want to comment before i take questions, on the issue of security for the american people. whatever our party, we all raise our hand and take an oath and assume the solemn responsibility to protect our citizens and that is a mission that should ru night us as americans. today we re focussed on three threats in particular. first and foremost is terrorism. the attacks in garland, texas, in chattanooga, in san bernardino, were attacks in good and decent communities, but they were also attacks on our entire country. as americans, we are united in support of the men and women in uniform from every state who lead the coalition we ve built with the mission to destroy isil. we re working with other nations to prevent terrorists from swrg the united states. we re unwavering in our efforts to prevent attacks at home, and that s where the partnership with your governments come in. this is a shared mission. across the country we have more than 100 joint terrorism task forces, federal, state, local experts working together to disrupt threats. at the state level, your fusion cells are pushing information out to law enforcement. we ve also we also need to make sure our extraordinary law enforcement professionals and first responders have the equipment and the resources they need, and we have to stay united as one american family working with communities to help prevent loved ones from becoming radicalized and rejecting any politics that tries to divide the american people on the basis of faith. so this is something that this is a shared project. it s not something that we do together. one of the genuine areas of progress that i ve seen since i came into office, and it was started in the previous administration and this is one of the findings of the 9/11, was breaking down some of the silos between federal, state, and local law enforcement when it comes to countering terrorism. we ve made progress on that. that s where state and local partners are absolutely critical. this is not something that the federal government can do alone, particularly because many of the attacks may end up being lone wolf attacks rather than those imported from the outside. the attack in san bernardino killed 14 of our fellow americans, and here s a hard truth. we probably lost even more americans than that to guns this weekend alone. on saturday another one of our communities was terrorized by gun violence as many of you read, six people were gunned down in a rampage in michigan. before i joined all of you, i called the mayor, the sheriff, and the police chief there and told them that they would have whatever federal support they needed in their investigation. their local officials and first responders did an outstanding job in apprehending the individual very quickly, but you got families who are shattered today. earlier this year i took some steps that will make it harder for dangerous people like this individual to buy a gun, but clearly we re going to need to do more if we re going to keep innocent americans safe. and i ve got to assume that all of you are just as tired as i am of seeing this stuff happen in your states. that s an area where we also need to partner and think about what we can do in a common sense way, in a bipartisan way without some of the ideological rhetoric that so often surrounds that issue. a second area of threats is cyber threats. the technology that connects us like never before also allows our adversaries to do us harm. hackers and nations have targeted our military, our corporations, the federal government, and state governments. they re a threat to our national security. they re also a threat to our economic leadership. they re a threat to our critical infrastructure. they re a threat to the privacy and public safety of the american people. this is a complex challenge, and we re not going to be able to meet it alone. we ve made a lot of progress these past seven years, including sharing more information with industry and with your states. but all of us are still vulnerable. so this is why earlier this month i launched the cyber security national action plan and proposed significant funding to push our cyber security efforts in a more aggressive direction. we re going to start a major overhaul of federal computer systems. i want to do more with your states including sharing more information about threats. we have initiated a joint bipartisan commission made up of one of my national security advisors, former national security advisors, but joined with the former ceo of ibm so that they can work together to help provide us a sense of direction both at the federal and state levels as well as the private sector in terms of how we move forward on this. we re going to want your input. i think we probably have some good ideas about where your vulnerabilities are in terms of your state databases and what you re doing. that s an area where i think we can work together. finally, we have to remain vigilant when it comes to the spread of disease. since late last year my administration has been focussed on the threat of zika. so far while there s no evidence of zika spreading in the united states, there are confirmed cases in puerto rico, and it s important that we convey basic facts, including that it s not like ebola. ebola was spread human to human. based on what we know right now, zika virus spreads from a bite from a certain kind of mosquito. as all of you have read, the possible connection between zika virus and health problems means we have to take precautions, particularly with respect to women who are pregnant or trying to get pregnant. we re going to be fighting this disease at every level with every tool at our disposal. i ve called on congress to approve about $1.9 billion in emergency funding for our efforts at home and abroad. you ve been listening to president obama inside the white house. a workman like address talking about terrorism and other things that matter to governors. two things i noticed. he made a joke about appointing judges. he said all of you, you have jobs like appointing jobs. that got a laugh, and the president also said he spoke to officials in kalamazoo, michigan where there is the shooting spree over the weekend. he praised the response from law enforcement in michigan. congratulating them for apprehending the man quickly. saying they re going to get all the support that they need. let s bring in our white house correspondent right now for more on this. last night, michelle, when he was toasting with the governors he also made a joke about maybe he would be addressing them in the next round as a governor himself saying he wanted to see his wife s reaction when he made that joke. but as john said, businesslike address that the president is making right now. yeah. he also made a joke last night about the nominee in a that he needs to choose saying he s going to fulfill his duty by delivering remarks at the dinner last night and he hoped everybody would give him a fair hearing on that. he s making reference to it. we know the president spent a significant amount of his weekend. that s how the white house is framing it, looking over all of this information that the white house team has compiled on his potential nominees. at this point the white house is saying it s not quite a short list. let s not call it that yet. there s a lot of information gathered on more than two people is how they re saying it. when you look at the binder, there s a photo of the president starting his weekend on friday carrying this huge binder, and it looked like of course, reporters are going to want to scrutinize that photo. it looked like it was divided into at least nine sections. that could mean there are nine possible nominees he s looking at right now. the white house says the list could grow and change. this is early days. what could be interesting about the address to the governors of america today, not all of them in r in attendance. this is the national governor s association. he s going to take some questions from some of those governors. and that could touch on the supreme court nominee. that s what we re listening for today, john and kate. it looks almost as if he might be taking questions right now from those governors. do we want to dip back in? let s listen. the benefit of the people of utah and people that are world travelers overall. again, and effort of commu communication and cooperation which i think is a success. i harken back to a failure of lack of communication in a previous administration in utah. the vice president where s jack? at any rate, the problem was that governor mike levit found out about the designation by reading the washington post. that was the other side of the coin of not good communication. i expect all governors have successes and probably where we could do better. and so my question to you, mr. president, really is in the effort of the national governor s association. what can we do as an nga, as states to communicate better with the federal government and what can the federal government do to better communicate with the state. this should go post us. we re all off in the sunset some time. but it would be nice if there was a process to make sure we work together and communicate better and have better outcomes on behalf of the american people. good. well, first of all, i think the nga generally has been a terrific partner for us. i hope you feel the same way. my instructions to my cap net, to my secretaries, have always been that we have certain laws, statutes, mandates yarks ththat to abide by. president obama answering 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driving really erratical erratically. we were kind of driving through medians and the lawn. speeding along, and then finally once he came to a stop i jumped out of the car and ran away. that sounds terrifying, especially when you know what happened after that. ryan young is outside the courthouse. what are relearning about how it s going to play out today? reporter: well, we ve learned probably about one 30, 2:00 when this arraignment will happen. the ride in the uber, there was a guy on the inside of the car who asked him, hey, are you the shooter because the car matched the description, and then apparently he said i m not the shooter. which we obviously know now that at least according to police, he was the shooter. they have surveillance video from the car dealership where he shot two people. that s how they were able to describe the car. to take you through the time line, this started around 6:35 when he pulled into an apartment parking lot and opened fire on a woman walking with children. shot her several time. the woman was able to survive. she s in critical condition. he went and shot a father and son, killing both of them before moving onto that cracker barrel where he shot four women sitting in a car, and we re told all four of them over the age of 60, they died, and a 14-year-old was shot in that same parking lot. we were told she was pronounced dead, but she survived. this has been a miraculous story from the community in terms of people coming out and talking about the pain. we know two to the victims, barbara hawthorn, and marry joe nye. both of them died in the shooting. we went to a vigil where people were talking act how the community is trying to come together as they don t understand what happened to cause this man to snap and start shooting several innocent people. ryan young, thank you so much. we ll watch closely to see what happens in that courtroom today. we ll bring in jonathan, our cnn analyst. this is unusual. six people dead. others badly injured. in no apparent motive at all. what do you make of this? killing never really makes sense to us, but when we look at the way the fbi and psychologists define different kinds of killing, there s single homicide which is the most typical one. you have mass murder which is normally one single killing or a period of time where more than one person is killed. a lot of times when that happens, there s visions of grandiose, revenge, or retaliation associated with that. what s interesting about this, though, is that there s no real as far as we can see now clear motivation. it was clearly random as to who this person picked off. and the only time we typically see that randomness is when terrorism issed involved. which we don t know if there s any type of, you know, mentality or motivation that has anything to do with any beliefs at this point in time. but it doesn t appear to me that there is and when you add to that what the first what the passenger that got out said, that he was driving sporadic, it appears to me that it s pointing towards more of a mental break of some kind. what do you make of the targets. this is one thing, this was happening saturday night, when we were here. that s one thing that we kept talking about. car dealership, a cracker barrel, what do you make of the targets? when somebody has a mental break, it s no different than if you see somebody who s suffering from schizophrenia or something, where they have just random thoughts and visions of, you know, who knows exactly what s going inside a person s brain when they re having that break. so this person could have been just been picking a target as he drove by them or as things were happening in his brain, the same as when he was driving. why was he driving in the middle of the road on the median, you don t know what was going on inside his brain at this point. we do know six people are dead in this horrible, horrible tragedy. jonathan gilliam, thank you so much for being with us. coming 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so he is not going to provide any help on the ground. there s nothing resembling an effective political organization nationwide from rudy giuliani. that s what i was going to ask you, errol. it seems like the help for donald trump that giuliani can provide, especially when they want to leak it and talk about it, isn t necessarily in nevada or electorally at all. in the south. that s right. although it does make an interesting case, it underscores an interesting case that trump has been making, which is that i, donald trump, can get reagan democrats. i can put states like new york in play, that republicans normally don t even attempt to win. rudy giuliani, plus donald trump, does, in fact, put new york in play. trump himself is probably not all that popular. he s never run for office here before. but we know that rudy giuliani has a lot of support, not just in the city, in fact, mostly not in the city, but in the upstate areas, and in the suburbs, certainly, he is fondly remembered. this is fascinating. errol louis, thanks so much for being with us, we appreciate it. every step of the way, errol. stick with us. and stick with us for this one, too. in case you misseded some of the most how do we describe it? 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when the voters vote against you. or can he get his mojo back in manhattan? plus, the best political minds will be here with insights from the campaign trail. hello, i m dana bash in for jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is on the money. bernie sanders supporters in los angeles showered hillary clinton s motorcade with actual dollar bills as she drove to a star-studded fundraiser hosted by george clooney and his wife, amal. the cost of the top ticket, a staggering $350,000 per couple. but then clooney, who actually raised a reported $15 million for hillary this week, went on tv and went after big money in politics. it is an obscene amount of money. the sanders campaign, when they talk about it, is absolutely right. it s ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics. i agree completely. clooney s next-door neighbor, a sanders supporter, hosted a dueling fund-raiser for him with tickets priced at $27. joining me now is democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders. and senator sanders, you heard clooney there, he almost sounds like he s feeling the bern. well, i have a lot of respect for george clooney s honesty and integrity on this issue. he is right. one of the great tragedies of american life today is the degree to which big money is buying elections in which elected officials become responsive to the needs of wall street and wealthy campaign contributors rather than the needs of ordinary people. and dana, i m so proud that in this campaign, we have now raised almost 7 million individual contributions, averaging $27 apiece. that is unprecedented in american history. but you realize, senator, that he just raised millions of dollars for your opponent. so is he backing the wrong horse here? well, i think he is. but he is honest enough to say that there is something wrong when few people, in this case, wealthy individuals, but in other instances for the secretary, it is wall street and powerful special interests who are able to contribute unbelievably large sums of money. that s not what democracy is about. that is a movement toward oligarchy. and that is why we ve got to overturn citizens united and why i have run this campaign on the basis of saying we re going to make it on contributions averaging 27 bucks apiece rather than being dependent on big money. but this is the issue of american politics today. do we have a government that represents all of us or just the 1%? and you re not going to have a government that represents all of us so long as you have candidates like secretary clinton being dependent on big-money interests. senator, you just visited the vatican where you had a meeting with the pope. vice president joe biden was asked about your trip. i want to you listen to what he said. i just think that bernie making a trip is a good thing, but to suggest that the pope would embrace bernie s policies, i don t think that s the case. i don t know. i doubt it. senator, what s your response to that? well, you know, i love joe, and no one is suggesting that the pope is embracing my policies. what i will tell you is i was very proud to have been invited by the vatican to an important conference dealing with morality in economics. and, in my view, that is exactly the issue of the day. we have got to create an economics which is based on morality dealing with the needs of working families and the elderly and the children and the sick and the poor, rather than an economy which is based on greed and the needs of wall street and big corporations. and the fact that i was invited there was very for me, a very moving experience, and that s the fight that we are going to continue to wage. we have massive levels of income and wealth inequality in this country. the rich are getting richer. almost everybody else is getting poorer. we ve got to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. we need to create millions of decent-paying jobs. and i have been so impressed ever since pope francis came into power of his willingness to take on special interests, to talk about climate change, and the need to transform our energy system. so, you know, i have probably been one of the members of congress talking more often about the extraordinary role that pope francis is playing in raising issues that so rarely get discussed. senator, let s return to what you were talking about before, money in politics. at this week s debate in brooklyn, i asked you to name one decision hillary clinton made as senator that shows she was influenced by the donations she got. you really didn t answer the question. so let s try it again. can you point to a decision that hillary clinton made as senator that shows she favored banks because of the donations she received? as a matter of fact, she voted for a bad bankruptcy legislation. but and whether that is a result of contributions from wall street or elsewhere, you know, no one can say that, dana. but what i would also repeat to you is the most important issue is what is your stand on wall street? and i think, to me, when you have it being very clear that wall street s greed and illegal behavior you know, goldman sachs just paid a $5 billion settlement with the government. when you have that kind of greed and illegal behavior, bringing our economy into the worst economic recession since the 30s, i think the immediate response must be to break up these large financial institutions. that is my view. that is the view of a number of leading economists. that is not hillary clinton s position. now, also at the debate, you were asked about sandy hook families who want to sue gun manufacturers. you said, quote, they have the right to sue. but just last week, you told the daily news the opposite. listen. i think the right of a crime with a gun should be able to sue the manufacturer, that s your question? correct. no, i don t. so senator, what changed? well, what changed is if you go into the interview a little longer, you ll see the nuance of the interview. of course anyone has the right to sue. they just won an initial decision in their favor last week. but if you go into that discussion a little bit longer, do i end up believing that if a gun store owner, a small gun store owner in rural vermont or anyplace else, sells you a weapon legally you come in with all your proper identification, you pass the background check, you illegally purchase a gun and you go out and shoot somebody, that gun store owner should be held liable, i don t. i really don t. but i ve got to tell you also on this issue of these assault weapons, let s be clear. back in 1988 in vermont, i likely lost an election because i alone stood up to the gun people and said no, i don t think that assault weapons should be sold or distributed in america. that was my view then. that s the type of weapon that caused that horrific tragedy in sandy hook. those weapons should not be made available in the united states of america. so in that sense, i agree with the sandy hook parents. but it s a question of how you go forward. let s talk about something in the news that will be on your plate as a sitting u.s. senator. saudi arabia has told the obama administration that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars of american assets if congress allows the saudi government to help to be held responsible in american courts for any role in the 9/11 attacks. how do you intend to vote as a senator? well, i need more information before i can give you a decision. but clearly i have, as you have heard me say, a whole lot of concerns about the role that saudi arabia has been playing for many, many years, not just the individuals who came from saudi arabia who attacked us on 9/11. but their support for isis and other terrorist organizations. the saudi family is a huge family. many hundreds if not thousands of people in the ruling family worth many hundreds of billions of dollars. but if i may, senator, in general, should saudi arabia be should it be possible to hold them liable in u.s. courts? well, you re asking me to give you a decision about a situation and a piece of legislation that i am not familiar with at this point. and i ve got to have more information on that. so you ve got to get some information before you can render, i think, a sensible decision. but i do have a lot of concerns about the role, in general, that saudi arabia has played and the royal family has played in supporting wahhabism which is the extreme right-wing islamic movement which is part of what isis and al qaeda are about. and finally, senator, on friday, you released last year s tax returns. secretary clinton has posted her tax returns from the past eight years. so will you do the same? we will post more of them, yes, we will. i don t have to be honest with you, our tax returns showed us that we made more money we made less money in a given year than secretary clinton made in one speech. we don t have a bunch of jane and i don t have a bunch of accountants working for us. we will get it out. i think we have all that information, and we will get them out as soon as we can. by when? which will be very soon. we got out one. we ll get out more. like this week? probably. okay. senator, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. good to talk to you. thank you, dana. and coming up, there are 95 republican delegates at stake on tuesday when new york votes. could trump sweep them all? if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me, and you re talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic. this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira giving me new perspective. doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened, as have blood, liver and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb, hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com. this is humira at work. psst. hey. where you going? 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do you think the system is rigged? well, i don t know no, i think it s the way it works. you know, it s like saying i made an 83 on my math test, so i should get an a just because i think it s rigged that you have to make a 90 to get an a. come on, act like you re a professional. be a pro. the next six contests starting here in new york are in the northeast and the mid-atlantic. right. those are really tailor made for your brand of compassionate conservatism. so if you can t win in these states, what s your rationale for the convention? right. well, winning is accumulating delegates. i don t have to win the state. i have to accumulate delegates and have momentum going in. look, dana, i am not going to whine, okay, but i m going to tell you the facts. there was because i was ignored for so long, there was coke, pepsi and kasich. and so you go shopping, you know, they re out there shopping and a spouse says, okay, there s copy, pepsi and kasich. well, kasich s kind of interesting, yeah, but we re going with one of the known brands. and now that the brand is getting up, it s now coke, pepsi and kasich, and now we have to cross the rubicon so people can know who i am and the team i have around me. so to me, it s continuing to accumulate delegates and go into that convention as the person standing who can beat hillary. i understand what you mean about accumulating delegates, but and i know that the heart of your pitch is that you can beat hillary clinton. right. but the fact of the matter s is, it is a hard sell if you get to the convention and say, you know, vote for me, even though you ve only won small state. only a small incidental state, by the way. no question it s an important state, ohio, but we know you can win ohio. you re the governor. but then i m not going to have you as a delegate. seriously. i mean, seriously? we are going to nominate somebody who can win in the fall. why do i win in the fall? because we have been able we, our team, has been able to put a message that appeals to blue-collar conservative democrats and independents. i mean, i will make the democrats have to fight in places where they haven t fought for decades. and that s going to be appealing to people. now, maybe if they say if you didn t win this state or that state, you re out. that will be their choice. i m copacetic with it. and having the greatest time still. i can tell. still. i m eating my way across every single part of new york. i see. that s a lot of food. well, it s good food, yes. i m going to get to that later. on the campaign trail this week, a female college student asked what you would do as president to help protect her from sexual assault. you gave a long answer at the end, you said, you would give her some advice, which is to avoid parties with alcohol. since then, you have made clear that you have a strong record in ohio to help probably the strongest in the country. helping on the issue of sexual assault, but on the question of whether or not women, young women, should avoid parties with alcohol, do you still give that advice? no, no, no, i said well, look. i mean, my daughters are sometime going to go to college, and they re going to go to parties where there s alcohol. it s just you have to be careful. my only comment on it, you know, it gets to be when alcohol s involved, it becomes more difficult for justice to be rendered for a whole variety of reasons. but we can still find a perpetrator. so but you understand why a lot of people, women in particular, took that as, wow, he s blaming the victim. or he s even giving some culpability to the victim? actually, i don t know how anybody would take it that way. because it s taken a while to change the stigma of getting people to come out. dana, i have led the way in the country to fight this and to get justice served in these conditions. i think even if, in fact, there is alcohol involved, you still have you still can find the perpetrator. i just don t want justice to be denied because something comes up that a prosecutor looks at and says, well, i can t figure this thing out. just to put a button on this, and then we ll move on. even if all of the mechanisms of justice are in place in a perfect way, if a young woman doesn t feel like she can come forward well because she s at a party with alcohol oh, no, no, no, no, no. i don t care if they re at a party with alcohol. i m just saying be careful. that s what i would tell my daughters, be careful. but are you kidding me? somebody gets sexually assaulted? of course we re going to get to the bottom of it. and i want to make sure that justice is done, which is exactly look, when our folks first sat down with the colleges and universities, i have a lady attorney who sort of led this effort for me. they didn t quite know what to do. and i said, i don t care about what they know or don t know. we are going to have a system in place to make sure that the women on our college campuses are protected and if something would happen to them, that justice can be done. that, in fact, the perpetrator can be held. so, you know, i don t it s let s go on. okay. at this week s cnn town hall, you said, quote, you know, i don t like anything big. big government, big business or big labor. it surprised me to hear you say you don t like big business. did you mean that? yeah. i ve said it all my lifetime. of course. i don t like let me give you an example. you think i don t get upset when i hear that a company might move something out? where i was just in i don t remember which town, but a lady came up to me, she said, i m being forced to train my replacements who don t live in the united states. and it outrages me. of course it does. look, you know so you don t like big business that goes overseas, but you re obviously in favor of big business that comes to ohio. well, i m not against big business providing jobs, but that s not look, most of the jobs get created by small businesses. but anything that s big i felt gets in my way or the way of the individual. it kind of gums up the works. it becomes a bureaucracy that in some cases is just not feeling. you know, okay, well, we have to you know, i m an insurance company. somebody needs something. denied. okay, why would i like that? of course i don t like it. the smaller it is, the more personal it is. but i m not out here to wreck big business. but if you re asking me, you know, what is it i don t like that i think is not that is not as how would i say? maybe as personal as i would like? you also had some tough words for mississippi s new laws where you can deny somebody service because they re gay. you said, quote, what the hell are we doing in this country? are there any steps that you would take to try to stop states from passing these laws? no, i wouldn t. but what i would i mean, i haven t even been asked that or thought about that. but here s what i think. there is a legitimate concern for people being able to have their deeply held religious beliefs, religious liberty. but there s also people who we shouldn t be discriminating against. we need to have a balance. there needs we need to strike a balance. and i just wish that everybody would just take a breath and calm down because you see, trying to figure out how to legislate that balance is complicated, and you keep doing do-overs because nobody gets it right. so we would just kind of calm down here, i think things would settle down. and what i like to say is just relax. if you don t like what somebody s doing, pray for them. and if you feel as though somebody is doing something wrong against you, can you just, for a second, get over it? you know, because this thing will settle down. and i think to some degree, this has become a wedge issue that can be exploited by people on both sides. we don t need that. we need a divided america, not we need a united america, not a divided america. as one of my daughters said, we re the united states, not the divided states. that s a good line. okay, last question. you caused a bit of a cultural and maybe an epicurean stir here in new york by eating pizza with a fork. no, that was two weeks ago. i caused a stir by flipping my bread over the wrong way. i ve learned a lot here. the reason why i m mentioning the pizza because in a radio show, you suggested maybe it wasn t a faux pas, it was an intentional way to get attention? dana dana, there are some things that i just don t have to reveal, okay? look yeah? so was it a political stunt? i m not going to get into it will be in my memoirs. you ll want to read it because of that. governor, thank you. thank you very much. thank you so much. appreciate it. and as the rnc prepares to set the convention rules, how will it respond to donald trump s attacks of rigging the system? 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well, first of all, they re not rnc rules. they re each individual state determines how they re going to allocate their delegates. so it s up to the campaigns to know the rules and compete within each of those states with the rules. and so it s to me, i m not going to get in the middle of a candidate back-and-forth. but i think obviously, it s important for the candidates to understand that the majority of delegates is the goal. and you need to be able to play within the confines of the rules to make sure that you get there. okay. so let s talk about rules that you do have a say in, which is the rules of the convention. for the last 40 years, the rnc convention rules and traditions, they ve really been based on party leaders and the nominee working in tandem. and now, of course, there s no nominee yet. and you are at odds very much so with the front-runner. so in the future, do you think it would be better to just make the person coming into the convention who has the most delegates the nominee? well, first of all, having a plurality of the delegates means that the field has the majority. so you have to have the majority. i mean, it s the united states of america. that s what we re founded on, electoral college is a majority. the dnc does it the same way. no. the majority rules and that is an american concept that i can t imagine us turning our backs on. and so but the first thing, i m not at odds. i m really not at odds. i m not this is not something, although i m working hard to you re not at odds, but it sure sounds like he is. it depends what you think i mean, if you think it s rhetoric, you think it s hyperbole, you know, look. there s nothing that the rnc can do to alter the rules between now and the convention. it s not the rnc s place. so i don t internalize i don t sit here and internalize the charge because there s no there there because there s nothing the rnc can do about it. do you think it s for theater and that that s what this is about, or do you think that there s a real i think you d have to ask him. what do you think? i think you d have to ask him. i mean, you re a reporter. listen, you re a reporter. everyone knows what the rules are. everyone knows that the rnc can t actually change rules between now and the convention. but you re the one who just used the word hyperbole. that s why i asked that. listen, i m not sure what it is. but what i do know is what the truth is. and since i know what the truth is, i don t really worry about it because i know what is right and i know what is wrong. so the delegates at the convention will look at all of this, and they will determine what they want to do on these issues. and each individual state will decide in four years how they re going to allocate their delegates. and it s a state-by-state process. do you see any flaw in the system now that you re knee deep in something that you didn t anticipate? you know, listen. i ve debated this issue for years. you know, we ve taken more steps at the last convention and first two years, we can t make any changes now, than i think any rnc in the history of the rnc. but there s always things that could be better. but it doesn t mean, though, that just because some things could be better, that somehow it s all being rigged against a particular person. it just means that over time, you can make improvements. let me just ask you one last question. the rnc is having a meeting this coming week in florida. my understanding is that and i ve talked to some members of the rnc rules committee my understanding is that you ve contacted them and encouraged them not to touch the actual convention rules yet. not yet during this week s meeting. is that right, and if so, why? yeah. well, it is true. i don t think that it s a good idea for us next week, i mean, before the convention, to make serious rules changes or recommendations of changes right now. i think we re in a politically charged environment. i think it s too complicated. i think that the rnc rules committee, going forward, with making rules amendment suggestions is it is not a good idea. because actually, we can t actually change anything. it s up to the delegates at the convention. so the recommendations, i think, just confuse people. i think it s a bad idea. and the environment, i think, is not conducive to that. reince priebus, thank you so much for your time this morning. appreciate it. thanks. and coming up with the empire state on the line, can hillary clinton hold on to her home turf? our panel looks ahead to tuesday s primary next. type 2 diabetes doesn t care who you are. man. woman. or where you re from. city. country. we re just everyday people fighting high blood sugar. i am everyday people, yea, yea. farxiga may help in that fight every day. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. one pill a day helps lower your a1c. and, although it s not a weight-loss or blood-pressure drug, farxiga may help you lose weight and may even lower systolic blood pressure when used with metformin. do not take if allergic to farxiga or its ingredients. symptoms of a serious allergic reaction include rash, swelling, or difficulty breathing or swallowing. if you have any of these symptoms stop taking farxiga and seek medical help right away. do not take farxiga if you have severe kidney problems, are on dialysis, or have bladder cancer. tell your doctor right away if you have blood or red color in your urine or pain while you urinate. farxiga can cause serious side effects, including dehydration, genital yeast infections in women and men, serious urinary tract infections, low blood sugar and kidney problems. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have signs of ketoacidosis, which can be serious or life threatening. farxiga. we are everyday people. i am everyday people, yea, yea. ask your doctor if farxiga is right for you and visit farxiga.com to learn how you can get it for free. the system is rigged. it s a bad system. it s a dirty system. and we re going to do something about it. donald trump says he s mad as hell and he s not going to take it. but will his pushback on the party actually work? with me to talk about it, bernie sanders s supporter and former ohio state representative, nina turner. former lieutenant governor of south carolina, andre bauer, who is supporting donald trump. cnn political commentators bakari sellers for hillary clinton and amanda carpenter who used to work for ted cruz. good morning, everybody. good morning. amanda, i m going to start with you. what did you make of the rnc chair and his defense and explanation of those rules? with all due respect to the chairman, i think he has to do a better job. it is his job to defend the party and the system that is in place to choose the nominee. i think he s so afraid of choosing sides, he s not forthrightly defending what the party should do. there s two issues, why they have a majority system to pick a nominee at the convention and also the delegates. he should just come out and say, listen, we have a majority standard to ensure that there s consensus in the party. we are going to an election together. we re all going to hold hands and jump behind a nominee. you re not going to do it with a simple plurality. we have the delegate system in place to ensure that the party values are choosing this nominee. yes, the popular vote does inform the delegates decision-making process, but we re not going to let a bunch of anarchists and communists come in by popular. i think she might have either called you an anarchist or a communist, by the way. what do you think? clearly we need to change the constitution from we the people to we the party if we re going to operate like this. this is wrong. it sends a the average voter is so disenfranchised with washington and the whole system. and so when you have states where the popular vote in a primary selected a candidate and that does not represent at the party level the voters, you know, why would they ever come out to a primary anymore? just let the hierarchy decide who the nominee is going to be and move on. there are a couple things that you notice here. one, if the republican party, if donald trump gets to 1100 or 1200 delegates and somehow loses this race, if somehow the party bigwigs and maybe it s not a smoke-filled room, but if they take this race away from donald trump, they re going to watch the republican party disintegrate. i don t think so. i think the exact opposite is true. i think donald trump is ultimately the only thing that will reunite the republican party. look what s happened so far. we ve been at war between conservatives and the establishment. wait a minute. i m sorry, you worked for ted cruz, and you think donald trump is the only one who can reunite the republican party? meaning donald trump brings republicans together. look, ted cruz and lindsey graham are working together. who would have ever imagined that scenario? republicans see that donald trump could hijack this party, destroy it, ruin everything we ve worked for for the past few year, so that s forced conservatives to team up with unlikely allies. the system is rigged, though. i agree. bernie sanders. the system is rigged. i agree with the lieutenant governor here. people are tired. the jig is up. average citizens are getting a chance to peel back behind the veil now, and they see that on both sides of this, it s rigged. this is a disrupted election and people are not going to take it anymore, and that s one of the reasons why senator bernie sanders is saying we need a political revolution in this country, one where all of the people participate, not just a certain few. and mr. trump is in a great position to know this because as he has said on the campaign trail many times, he has been involved. he is part of that system. he is a special interest himself. and he knows the impact that money like this, obscene amounts of money, has on the system. look, he s got over a 2 million-vote lead. the republicans can call in fema for disaster relief if they don t let this happen. going against the will of the people overwhelmingly is totally destructive of the republican party, and it s against lee atwater s big-tent theory. we want to bring new people in. donald trump wants to bring new people in. republicans have suppressed the vote and gone through this well now it s just so ironic to watch republicans talk about being disenfranchised. why are we lowering the bar so much for donald trump is my question? he s winning. yeah. the popular vote, but why does he not have the organizational structure in place? listen, this guy wants to be president? how come you can t reach out to the delegates and organize in all 50 states? he s trying to win by an air war. colorado. but colorado this is a test of how someone would govern as president. go ahead. no i mean, it s not lowering the standards. it is right, people over the party, and we keep talking about what s best for the party, the party, the party. well, the people are tired of this. absolutely. they want somebody to pay attention to them for a change. and the more they learn about what both parties are doing, whether it s the superdelegates on the democratic side or what s going on on the republican side, the average citizen who might not necessarily be an insider, they are mortified by the fact that this is what happens in terms of trying to elect the president. you are so correct. sure amanda says it is about the party, but it s just not being explained correctly by the party leadership. i think he could do a better job. listen, the party has a right to choose its nominee. people don t like that, start a new party. you can have one pick a nominee that reflects the popular vote. i mean, come on, now, in the united states of america. after every election that do take place. and the system that is in place now that donald trump now says is rigged, at the same time benefits him immensely is meant to correct wrongs perceived from the last election. and so every year there s new changes to go through, new reforms to go through. maybe people get more involved and want to change things, says but you can t change the rules right now. learn what makes our heating and cooling systems so reliable. if there s a breaking point, we ll find it. it s hard to stop a trane. really hard. trane. the most reliable for a reason. what if we invented a paint that s not only in the top of its class but lets you breathe as deeply as this or this or this. not guilty. if it doesn t upset your allergies like paint, is it still paint? 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i don t think she looked defensive. both candidates did very well. both candidates spoke extremely well to their audience. this is getting to a must win situation to bernie sanders. hillary clinton is looking like she ll do well in new york and pennsylvania, maryland. this race is different from the republican party. i know nina was talking about the republican party earlier. hillary clinton has a 2.4 million vote advantage and she ll pat that tuesday night and go forward. you did well. errol did extremely well. wolf always does well. it was amazing to see a debate not devolve into whose hands are the biggest. well, it certainly was a great debate. of course, i m going to get to as you give those thoughts, does he have a point? he says new york is a must win, new jersey is in order to get the delegates for the nomination. do you agree? i don t know what stage he made those remarks. senator sanders has the momentum. i know that the clinton side would love for senator sanders to go away. he s not just a sparring partner for the secretary, he is running to be president of the united states of america. there are only about 200 delegates separating those two. this might be a news flash, but we re not going anywhere. we re going to continue to battle this out. battle in the bronx, and we re going to continue to push forward. he s not going anywhere. hillary clinton was pretty adamant about not releasing the transcripts from her speeches to goldman sachs. take a listen. why not release the speeches and put this whole issue to bed? secretary clinton, the question was about the speeches to goldman sachs. secretary clinton, we ll get to the tax returns later. to put a button on this, you re running now for the democratic nomination. right. and it is your democratic opponent and many democratic voters who want to see those transcripts. true that. true that. it was the second highest trending on twitter over the weekend, release the transcripts. this is really about the democrats. this is about a new factor that we re now taking into the presidential process. never before has anyone had to release transcripts from any speech they ve ever given. now all of a sudden hillary clinton has to. you know why this is an issue. the totality of the question is that hillary clinton has given over $16 million of the fees she received from these speeches to charity. that is part of the discussion as well. so, i mean, releasing the transcripts is moving the ball, because she asked the question to bernie sanders, if you re going to say somehow that my character has been compromised or my votes have been compromised because of any relationship i may have or any speech i may have, please show me. and bernie sanders swung and missed. those two just released it. on the republican side, this whole wall street thing is not an issue. that s what i was going to ask that question. when it comes to democrats and our values, it s a different combination. if it is an issue, will republicans make this an issue pick your matchup, or is it just a democratic primary issue? there will be so much to choose from. i m not sure this will be at the top of the list. donald trump has given those speeches. she s not the only candidate. he has given those same speeches to wall street. so ask every candidate to do it. i think there would be no problem with having donald trump release it, if there is a transcript of donald trump speaking. the thing is with hillary clinton, we know the transcript exists and she refuses to release it. honestly, she should have put it out a few months ago. just do it. the fact that she s making such a big deal about it seems that there is something she s not saying. it terms of the values that the democrats hold, release this kind of accountability that the democratic voters are asking for, and this whole, we re tired of wall street, few people controlling it, we re tired of the 1%. release the transcripts. she s not running against the advocates right now. there s still a lot of anger over the bailouts among conservatives and they want to know what hillary clinton was telling goldman sachs that benefited them so great. they never complete the circle. final thought. bernie sanders didn t complete the circle when he had a chance nochlt one can show whereh her character has been compromised. she should still release the transcripts. thank you all. fascinating discussion. i appreciate it. you can see all the action when new yorkers vote on tuesday. from the empire steak for his high stakes primary. thank you for spending your sunday with us. m dana bash in washington. fareed zakaria gps starts next. those new glasses? 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meeting with pope francis. and donald trump says the system is rigged. the republican national committee, they d better get going because i ll tell you what, you re going to have a rough july at that convention. will he be outfoxed by cruz? donald, it ain t stealing when the voters vote against you. or can he get his mojo back in manhattan? plus, the best political minds will be here with insights from the campaign trail. hello, i m dana bash in for jake tapper in washington where the state of our union is on the money. bernie sanders supporters in los angeles showered hillary clinton s motorcade with actual dollar bills as she drove to a star-studded fund-raiser hosted by george clooney and his wife, amal. the cost of the top ticket, a staggering $350,000 per couple. but then clooney, who actually raised a reported $15 million for hillary this week, went on tv and went after big money in politics. it is an obscene amount of money, the sanders campaign, when they talk about it, is absolutely right. it s ridiculous that we should have this kind of money in politics. i agree completely. clooney s next-door neighbor, a sanders supporter, hosted a dueling fund-raiser for him with tickets priced at $27. joining me now is democratic presidential candidate bernie sanders. and senator sanders, you heard clooney there, he almost sounds like he s feeling the bern. well, i have a lot of respect for george clooney s honesty and integrity on this issue. he is right. one of the great tragedies of american life today is the degree to which big money is buying elections in which elected officials become responsive to the needs of wall street and wealthy campaign contributors rather than the needs of ordinary people. and dana, i m so proud that in this campaign, we have now raised almost 7 million individual contributions, averaging $27 apiece. that is unprecedented in american history. but you realize, senator, that he just raised millions of dollars for your opponent. so is he backing the wrong horse here? well, i think he is. but he is honest enough to say that there is something wrong when few people, in this case, wealthy individuals, but in other instances for the secretary, it is wall street and powerful special interests who are able to contribute unbelievably large sums of money. that s not what democracy is about. that is a movement toward oligarchy. and that is why we ve got to overturn citizens united and why i have run this campaign on the base of saying we re going to make it on contributions averaging 27 bucks apiece rather than being dependent on big money. but this is the issue of american politics today. do we have a government that represents all of us or just the 1%? and you re not going to have a government that represents all of us so long as you have candidates like secretary clinton being dependent on big-money interests. senator, you just visited the vatican where you had a meeting with the pope. vice president joe biden was asked about your trip. i want to you listen to what he said. i just think that bernie making a trip is a good thing, but to suggest that the pope would embrace bernie s policies, i don t think that s the case. i don t know. i doubt it. senator, what s your response to that? well, you know, i love joe, and no one is suggesting that the pope is embracing my policies. what i will tell you is i was very proud to have been invited by the vatican to an important conference dealing with morality in economics. and in my view, that is exactly the issue of the day. we have got to create an economics which is based on morality dealing with the needs of working families and the elderly and the children and the sick and the poor rather than an economy which is based on greed and the needs of wall street and big corporations. and the fact that i was invited there was very for me, a very moving experience, and that s the fight that we are going to continue to wage. we have levels of income in wealth inequality in this country. the rich are getting richer. almost everybody else is getting poorer. we ve got to raise the minimum wage to a living wage. we need to create millions of decent-paying jobs. and i have been so impressed ever since pope francis came into power of his willingness to take on special interests, to talk about climate change, and the need to transform our energy system. so, you know, i have probably been one of the members of congress talking more often about the extraordinary role that pope francis is playing in raising issues that so rarely get discussed. senator, let s return to what you were talking about before, money in politics. at this week s debate in brooklyn, i asked you to name one decision hillary clinton made as senator that shows she was influenced by the donations she got. you really didn t answer the question. so let s try it again. can you point to a decision that hillary clinton made as senator that shows she favored banks because of the donations she received? as a matter of fact, she voted for a bad bankruptcy legislation. but and whether that is a result of contributions from wall street or elsewhere, you know, no one can say that, dana. but what i would also repeat to you is the most important issue is what is your stand on wall street? and i think to me, when you have it being very clear that wall street s greed and illegal behavior, you know, goldman sachs just paid a $5 billion settlement with the government. when you have that kind of greed and illegal behavior, bringing our economy into the worst economic recession since the 30s, i think the immediate response must be to break up these large financial institutions. that is my view. that is the view of a number of leading economists. that is not hillary clinton s position. now, also at the debate, you were asked about sandy hook families who want to sue gun manufacturers. you said, quote, they have the right to sue. but just last week, you told the daily news the opposite. listen. i think the right of a crime with a gun should be able to sue the manufacturer, that s your question. correct. no, i don t. so senator, what changed? well, what changed is if you go into the interview a little longer, you ll see the nuance of the interview. of course anyone has the right to sue. they just won an initial decision in their favor last week. but if you go into that discussion a little bit longer, do i end up believing that if a gun store owner, a small gun store owner in rural vermont or anyplace else sells you a weapon illegally, you come in with all your proper identification, you pass the background check, you illegally purchase a gun and you go out and shoot somebody, that gun store owner should be held liable, i don t. i really don t. but i ve got to tell you also on this issue of these assault weapons, let s be clear. back in 1988 in vermont, i likely lost an election because i alone stood up to the gun people and said no, i don t think that assault weapons should be sold or distributed in america. that was my view then. that s the type of weapon that caused that horrific tragedy in sandy hook. those weapons should not be made available in the united states of america. so in that sense, i agree with the sandy hook parents. but it s a question of how you go forward. let s talk about something in the news that will be on your plate as a sitting u.s. senator. saudi arabia has told the obama administration that it will sell off hundreds of billions of dollars of american assets if congress allows the saudi government to help to be held responsible in american courts for any role in the 9/11 attacks. how do you intend to vote as a senator? well, i need more information before i can give you a decision. but clearly i have, as you have heard me say, a whole lot of concerns about the role that saudi arabia has been playing for many, many years, not just the individuals who came from saudi arabia who attacked us on 9/11. but their support for isis and other terrorist organizations. the saudi family is a huge family. many hundreds if not thousands of people in the ruling family worth many hundreds of billions of dollars. but if i may, senator, in general, should saudi arabia be should it be possible to hold them liable in u.s. courts? well, you re asking me to give you a decision about a situation and a piece of legislation that i am not familiar with at this point. and i ve got to have more information on that. so you ve got to get some information before you can render, i think, a sensible decision. but i do have a lot of concerns about the role, in general, that saudi arabia has played and the royal family has played in supporting wahabism which is the extreme right-wing movement which is part of what isis and al qaeda are about. and finally, senator, on friday, you released last year s tax returns. secretary clinton has posted her tax returns from the past eight years. so will you do the same? we will post more of them, yes, we will. i don t have, to be honest with you, our tax returns showed us that we made more money we made less money in a given year than secretary clinton made in one speech. we don t have a bunch of jane and i don t have a bunch of accountants working for us. we will get it out. i think we have all that information, and we will get them out as soon as we can. by when? which will be very soon. we got out one. we ll get out more. like this week? probably. okay. senator, thank you so much for your time. appreciate it. good to talk to you. thank you, dana. and coming up, there are 95 republican delegates at stake on tuesday when new york votes. could trump sweep them all? it s more than a network. it s how you stay connected. with centurylink as your trusted technology partner, you get an industry leading broadband network and cloud and hosting services. centurylink. your link to what s next. get your beauty sleep and use yonew aveeno®r? absolutely ageless® night cream with active naturals® blackberry complex. younger looking skin can start today. new absolutely ageless® from aveeno®. ranking from top to bottom. company of the year? 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do you think the system is rigged? well, i don t know no, i think it s the way it works. you know, it s like saying i made an 83 on my math test, so i should get an a just because i think it s rigged that you have to make a the90 to get an a. come on, act like you re a professional. be a pro. the next six contests starting here in new york are in the northeast and the mid-atlantic. right. those are really tailor made for your brand of compassionate conservatism. so if you can t win in these states, what s your rationale for the convention? right. well, winning is accumulating delegates. i don t have to win the state. i have to accumulate delegates and have momentum going in. look, dana, i am not going to whine, okay, but i m going to tell you the facts. there was because i was ignored for so long, there was coke, pepsi and kasich. and so you go shopping, you know, they re out there shopping and a spouse says, okay, there s copy, pepsi and kasich. well, kasich s kind of interesting, yeah, but we re one of the known brands. and now that the brand is getting up, it s now coke, pepsi and kasich, and now we have to cross the rubicon so people can know who i am and the team i have around me. so to me, it s continuing to accumulate delegates and go into that convention as the person standing who can beat hillary. i understand what you mean about accumulating delegates, but and i know that the heart of your pitch is that you can beat hurricane katriillary clin. right. but it is a hard sell to say vote for me even though you ve won one state. only a small incidental state, by the way. no question it s an important state, ohio, but we know you can win ohio. you re the governor. but then i m not going to have you as a delegate. seriously. i mean, seriously? we are going to nominate somebody who can win in the fall. why do i win in the fall? because we have been able we, our team, has been able to put a message that appeals to blue-collar conservative democrats and independents. i mean, i will make the democrats have to fight in places where they haven t fought for decades. and that s going to be appealing to people. now, maybe if they say if you didn t win this state or that state, you re out. that will be their choice. i m copacetic with it. and having the greatest time still. i can tell. still. i m eating my way across every single part of new york. i see. that s a lot of food. well, it s good food, yes. i m going to get to that later. on the campaign trail this week, a female college student asked what you would do as president to help protect her from sexual assault. you gave a long answer at the end, you said, you would give her some advice, which is to avoid parties with alcohol. since then, you have made clear that you have a strong record in ohio to help probably the strongest in the country. helping on the issue of sexual assault, but on the question of whether or not women, young women, should avoid parties with alcohol, do you still give that advice? no well, look. i mean, my daughters are sometime going to go to college, and they re going to go to parties where there s alcohol. it s just you have to be careful. my only comment on it, you know, it gets to be when alcohol s involved, it becomes more difficult for justice to be rendered for a whole variety of reasons. but we can still find a perpetrator. so but you understand why a lot of people, women in particular, took that as, wow. he s blaming the victim. or he s even giving some probability to the victim. actually, i don t know how anybody would take it that way. because it s taken a while to change the stigma of getting people to come out. dana, i have led the way in the country to fight this and to get justice served in these conditions. i think even if, in fact, there is alcohol involved, you still have you still can find the perpetrator. i just don t want justice to be denied because something comes up that a prosecutor looks at and says, well, i can t figure this thing out. just to put a button on this and then we ll move on. even if all of the mechanisms of justice are in place in a perfect way, if a young woman doesn t feel like she can come forward well because she s at a party with alcohol oh, no, no. i don t care if they re at a party with alcohol. just be careful. that s what i would tell my daughters, be careful. but are you kidding me? somebody gets sexually assaulted? of course we re going to get to the bottom of it. and i want to make sure that justice is done, which is exactly look, when our folks first sat down with the colleges and universities, i have a lady attorney who sort of led this effort for me. they didn t quite know what to do. and i said, i don t care about what they know or don t know. we are going to have a system in place to make sure that the women on our college campuses are protected and if something would happen to them, that justice can be done. that, in fact, the perpetrator can be held. so, you know, i don t it s let s go on. okay. at this week s cnn town hall, you said, quote, you know, i don t like anything big. big government, big business or big labor. it surprised me to hear you say you don t like big business. did you mean that? yeah. i ve said it all my lifetime. of course. i don t like let me give you an example. you think i don t get upset when i hear that a company might move something out? where i was just in i don t remember which town, but a lady came up to me, she said, i m being forced to train my replacements who don t live in the united states. and it outrages me. of course it does. look, you know so you don t like big business that goes overseas, but you re obviously in favor of big business that comes to ohio. well, i m not against big business providing jobs, but that s not look, most of the jobs get created by small businesses. but anything that s big i felt gets in my way or the way of the individual. it kind of gums up the works. it becomes a bureaucracy that in some cases is just not feeling. you know, okay, well, we have to you know, i m an insurance company. somebody needs something. denied. okay, why would i like that? of course i don t like it. the smaller it is, the more personal it is. but i m not out here to wreck big business. but if you re asking me, you know, what is it i don t like that i think is not that is not as how would i say? maybe as personal as i would like? you also had some tough words for mississippi s new laws where you can deny somebody service because they re gay. you said, quote, what the hell are we doing in this country? are there any steps that you would take to try to stop states from passing these laws? no, i wouldn t. but what i would i mean, i haven t even been asked that or thought about that. but here s what i think. there is a legitimate concern for people being able to have their deeply held religious beliefs, religious liberty. but there s also people who we shouldn t be discriminating against. we need to have a balance. there needs we need to strike a balance. and i just wish that everybody would just take a breath and calm down because you see, trying to figure out how to legislate that balance is complicated, and you keep doing do-overs because nobody gets it right. so we would just kind of calm down here, i think things would settle down. and what i like to say is just relax. if you don t like what somebody s doing, pray for them. and if you feel as though somebody is doing something wrong against you, can you just, for a second, get over it? you know, because this thing will settle down. and i think to some degree, this has become a wedge issue that can be exploited by people on both sides. we don t need that. we need a divided america, not we need a united america, not a divided america, as one of my daughters said, we re the united states, not the divided states. that s a good line. okay, last question. you caused a bit of a cultural and maybe an epicurean stir here in new york by eating pizza with a fork. no, that was two weeks ago. i ve learned a lot here. the reason why i m mentioning the pizza because in a radio show, you suggested maybe it wasn t a faux pas, it was an intentional way to get attention? dana dana, there are some things that i just don t have to reveal, okay? look yeah? so was it a political stunt? i m not going to get into it will be in my memoirs. you ll want to read it because of that. thank you. governor, thank you. thank you very much. thank you so much. appreciate it. and as the rnc prepares to set the convention rules, how will it respond to donald trump s attacks of rigging the system? i ll ask the rnc chairman next. my advice for looking younger longer? get your beauty sleep and use new aveeno® absolutely ageless® night cream with active naturals® blackberry complex. younger looking skin can start today. new absolutely ageless® from aveeno®. welcome back to state of the union. i m dana bash in for jake tapper. ted cruz picked up 14 more delegates yesterday in wyoming in a process donald trump says is rigged by party insiders. and he issued this warning to the republican national committee. you d better straighten out the system because the people want their vote. the people want to vote. and they want to be represented properly. joining me now is the chairman of the rnc, reince priebus. thank you so much for joining me, mr. chairman. you just heard donald trump. it sure sounded like he was threatening you. well, i don t i don t know. i find it to be rhetoric and hyperbole. i think everyone understands these rules have been in place for years. these plans have been released since october of last year. there are a few states that pick delegates by convention. it s their choice how they allocate delegates. the candidates participate in the process. it s been going on for a month in each of these states that do a convention. but ultimately, about cleaning things up, it s up to the delegates. i mean, by majority, the delegates decide. they decide everything. so it s not a matter of party insiders. it s a matter of 2400-plus grass-roots activists, and whatever they want to do, they can do. and that s where the power lies. i know you tried to make that case over and over in private and in public to donald trump, but he doesn t seem to be buying it. in fact, take a look at what he said in an op-ed for the wall street journal this week. it was a pretty serious charm at ted cruz. he said, voter disenfranchisement is not merely part of the cruz strategy. it is the cruz strategy. so do the rnc rules make it possible for a candidate to pursue that kind of strategy? well, first of all, they re not rnc rules. they re each individual state determines how they re going to allocate their delegates. so it s up to the campaigns to know the rules and compete within each of those states with the rules. and so it s to me, i m not going to get in the middle of a candidate back-and-forth. but i think obviously, it s important for the candidates to understand that the majority of delegates is the goal. and you need to be able to play within the confines of the rules to make sure that you get there. okay. so let s talk about rules that you do have a say in, which is the rules of the convention. for the last 40 years, the rnc convention rules and traditions, they ve really been based on party leaders and the nominee working in tandem. and now, of course, there s no nominee yet. and you are at odds very much so with the front-runner. so in the future, do you think it would be better to just make the person coming into the convention who has the most delegates the nominee? well, first of all, having a plurality of the delegates means that the field has the majority. so you have to have the majority. i mean, it s the united states of america. that s what we re founded on, electoral college is a majority. the dnc does it the same way. no. the majority rules and that is an american concept that i can t imagine us turning our backs on. and so but the first thing, i m not at odds. i m really not at odds. i m not this is not something, although i m working hard to you re not at odds, but it sure sounds like he is. it depends what you think i mean, if you think it s rhetoric, you think it s hyperbole, you know, look. there s nothing that the rnc can do to alter the rules between now and the convention. it s not the rnc s place. so i don t internalize i don t sit here and internalize the charge because there s no there there because there s nothing the rnc can do about it. do you think it s for theater and that that s what this is about, or do you think that there s a real i think you d have to ask him. what do you think? i think you d have to ask him. i mean, you re a reporter. listen, you re a reporter. everyone knows what the rules are. everyone knows that the rnc can t actually change rules between now and the convention. but you re the one who just used the word hyperbole. that s why i asked that. listen, i m not sure what it is. but what i do know is what the truth is. and since i know what the truth is, i don t really worry about it because i know what is right and i know what is wrong. so the delegates at the convention will look at all of this, and they will determine what they want to do on these issues. and each individual state will decide in four years how they re going to allocate their delegates. and it s a state-by-state process. do you see any flaw in the system now that you re knee deep in something that you didn t anticipate? you know, listen. i ve debated this issue for years. you know, we ve taken more steps at the last convention and first two years, we can t make any changes now, than i think any rnc in the history of the rnc. but there s always things that could be better. but it doesn t mean, though, that just because some things could be better, that somehow it s all being rigged against a particular person. it just means that over time, you can make improvements. let me just ask you one last question. the rnc is having a meeting this coming week in florida. my understanding is that and i ve talked to some members of the rnc rules committee my understanding is that you ve contacted them and encouraged them not to touch the actual convention rules yet. not yet during this week s meeting. is that right, and if so, why? yeah. well, it is true. i don t think that it s a good idea for us next week, i mean, before the convention, to make serious rules changes or recommendations of changes right now. i think we re in a politically charged environment. i think it s too complicated. i think that the rnc rules committee, going forward, with making rules amendment suggestions is it is not a good idea. because actually, we can t actually change anything. it s up to the delegates at the convention. so the recommendations, i think, just confuse people. i think it s a bad idea. and the environment, i think, is not conducive to that. reince priebus, thank you so much for your time this morning. appreciate it. thanks. and coming up with the empire state on the line, can hillary clinton hold on to her home turf? our panel looks ahead to tuesday s primary next. what s with him? he s happy. your family s finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. and they only take 15 minutes to make. ahh! birds eye voila so veggie good the system is rigged. it s a bad system. it s a dirty system. and we re going to do something about it. donald trump says he s mad as hell and he s not going to take it. but will his pushback on the party actually work? with me to talk about it, bernie sanders s supporter and former ohio state representative, nina turner. former lieutenant governor of south carolina, andre bauer, who is supporting donald trump. cnn political commentators bakari sellers for hillary clinton and amanda carpenter who used to work for ted cruz. good morning, everybody. good morning. amanda, i m going to start with you. what did you make of the rnc chair and his defense and explanation of those rules? with all due respect to the chairman, i think he has to do a better job. it is his job to defend the party and the system that is in place to choose the nominee. i think he s so afraid of choosing sides, he s not forthrightly defending what the party should do. there s two issues, why they have a majority system to pick a nominee at the convention and also the delegates. he should just come out and say, listen, we have a majority standard to ensure that there s consensus in the party. we are going to an election together. we re all going to hold hands and jump behind a nominee. you re not going to do it with a simple plurality. we have the delegate system in place to ensure that the party values are choosing this nominee. yes, the popular vote does inform the delegates decision-making process, but we re not going to let a bunch of anarchists and communists come in by popular. i think she might have either called you an anarchist or a communist, by the way. what do you think? clearly we need to change the constitution from we the people to we the party if we re going to operate like this. this is wrong. it sends a the average voter is so disenfranchised with washington and the whole system. and so when you have states where the popular vote in a primary selected a candidate and that does not represent at the party level the voters, you know, why would they ever come out to a primary anymore? just let the hierarchy decide who the nominee is going to be and move on. there are a couple things that you notice here. one, if the republican party, if donald trump gets to 1100 or 1200 delegates and somehow loses this race, if somehow the party bigwigs and maybe it s not a smoke-filled room, but if they take this race away from donald trump, they re going to watch the republican party disintegrate. i don t think so. i think the exact opposite is true. i think donald trump is ultimately the only thing that will reunite the republican party. look what s happened so far. we ve been at war between conservatives and the establishment. wait a minute. i m sorry, you worked for ted cruz, and you think donald trump is the only one who can reunite the republican party? meaning donald trump brings republicans together. look, ted cruz and lindsey graham are working together. who would have ever imagined that scenario? republicans see that donald trump could hijack this party, destroy it, ruin everything we ve worked for for the past few year, so that s forced conservatives to team up with unlikely allies. the system is rigged, though. i agree. bernie sanders. the system is rigged. i agree with the lieutenant governor here. people are tired. the jig is up. average citizens are getting a chance to peel back behind the veil now, and they see that on both sides of this, it s rigged. this is a disrupted election and people are not going to take it anymore, and that s one of the reasons why senator bernie sanders is saying we need a political revolution in this country, one where all of the people participate, not just a certain few. and mr. trump is in a great position to know this because as he has said on the campaign trail many times, he has been involved. he is part of that system. he is a special interest himself. and he knows the impact that money like this, obscenes amounts of money, has on the system. look, he s got over a 2 million-vote lead. the republicans can call in fema for disaster relief if they don t let this happen. going against the will of the people overwhelmingly is totally destructive of the republican party, and it s against lee atwater s big-tent theory. we want to bring new people in. donald trump wants to bring new people in. republicans have suppressed the vote and gone through this well now it s just so ironic to watch republicans talk about being disenfranchised. why are we lowering the bar so much for donald trump is my question? he s winning. yeah. the popular vote, but why does he not have the organizational structure in place? listen, this guy wants to be president? le cokol how come you can t reach out to the delegates and organize in all 50 states? he s trying to win by an air war. colorado. but colorado this is a test of how someone would govern as president. go ahead. no i mean, it s not lowering the standards. it is right, people over the party, and we keep talking about what s best for the party, the party, the party. well, the people are tired of this. absolutely. they want somebody to pay attention to them for a change. and the more they learn about what both parties are doing, whether it s the superdelegates on the democratic side or what s going on on the republican side, the average citizen who might not necessarily be an insider, they are mortified by the fact that this is what happens in terms of trying to elect the president. you are so correct. sure amanda says it is about the party, but it s just not being explained correctly by the party leadership. i think he could do a better job. listen, the party has a right to choose its nominee. people don t like that, start a new party. you can have one pick a nominee that reflects the popular vote. i mean, come on, now, in the united states of america. after every election that do take place. and the system that is in place now that donald trump now says is rigged, at the same time benefits him immensely is meant to correct wrongs perceived from the last election. and so every year there s new changes to go through, new reforms to go through. maybe people get more involved and want to change things, says but you can t change the rules right now. but they re juggernauts. it s a fantasy to think that those two parties, which i am are going to allow a third party to hold that thought. we have a lot more to talk about including the democratic party and much more. but the question going into the break is can you take a bite out of the big apple without it biting back? 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i don t think she looked defensive. both kancandidates spoke extrem well. this is getting to a must win situation to bernie sanders. hillary clinton is looking like she ll do well in new york and pennsylvania. this race is different from the republican party. well, it certainly was a great debate. of course, i m going to get to. as you give those thoughts, does he have a point? he says new york is a must win, new jersey in order to get the delegates for the nomination. i know that the clinton side would love for senator sanders to go away. he s not a sparring partner for the secretary. he s running to be the president of the united states of america. we re not going anyone. we re going to continue to battle this out. we re going to keep pushing forward. he s not going anywhere. hillary clinton was pretty adamant about not releasing the transcripts from her speeches to goldman and sachs. why not release the speeches and put this to bed. it was about the speeches. just to put a button on this, you re running now for the democratic nomination and it is your democratic opponent and many democratic voters who want to see those transcripts. true that. it was the second highest trending on twitter over the weekend released the tran transcripts. this is about a new factor that we re now taking into the presidential process. never before has anyone had to release transcripts. you know why this is an issue. hillary clinton has given over $16 million of the feeings to charity. if my votes have been compromised because of a relationship or speech i ve had, please show me. those two just released it. when it comes to democrats and our values, it s a different combination. if it is an issue, will republicans make this an issue or just democratic primary issue? there will be so much to choose from. i m not sure this will be at the top of the list. donald trump has given those speeches to wall street. there will be no problem with him releasing it. honestly, she put it out a few months ago. in terms of the values the democrats hold, release this kind of accountability that the democratic voters are asking for in this whole retirement with few people controlling. she s not running against the advocates right now. there s so greatly. it s not just the democrats. they never complete the circle and bernie sanders didn t complete the circle when he had a chance. thank you all. fascinating discussion. i appreciate it. you can see the reaction when new yorkers vote on tuesday. from the empire steak for his high stakes primary. thank you for spending your sunday with it. fareed zakaria gps starts next. with centurylink you get advanced technology solutions. including cloud and hosting services - all from a trusted it partner. centurylink. your link to what s next. get your beauty sleep and use yonew aveeno®r? 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vermont senator bernie sanders. that s big news. fox exit polls show a tight race between clinton who you may remember representing new york for eight years in t u.s. senate and sanders who was born and raised in brooklyn. this is a huge story tonight, obviously donald trump and the margin of victory that he will have here is a big story. but if it s five points, if it s less than five points, i know it s all about the math, but that s significant. talking about the dems side. exactly. yes. she was supposed to blow him out and was beating him significantly before. he tightened it. eastbound though mathematically he needs to win in order to chal enl her in the numbers there s a question about psychologically what this does and how the race will shape up thereafter. i want to bring back our pa dana perino, julie, tucker carlson and dana lesch is here as well, the host of dana. dana lash, let me start with you since we haven t heard from you yet. ted cruz poised to come in third, not yet official. it s not good for him. one thing we re seeing from the exit polls is in were three little words that hurt him badly, new york values. too short-sided? no, i don t think so. i mean, when was talking about new york values he s talking about the new york progressive value that s are ruining an awesome city. that s at least what i got. of course i come from the midwest where i m always told i come from a cow town and everyone questions whether i and everyone else shares genes, dna. that being said, i don t think that the cruz campaign they weren t anticipating that he was going to come in first. it s donald trump s home state, of course he s going to come in first place in new york. and i would expect john kasich to do incredibly well if not beat ted cruz in the state of new york because he s more of a moderate. new yorkers, even though you can have republican new yorkers, they tend to go for a maybe more moderate republican. that s not anything to be upset about. it s just to be expected. nobody was freaking out when ted cruz was first place in texas and donald trump wasn t. it kind of goes with the territory, it being your home state. dana perino, in this case, if john kasich finishes well ahead of ted cruz as we are seeing it right now, does he have a heart beat even though mathematically he has no way to get to 1237 other than a second or third ballot at the convention? he certainly has a stronger argument than he s had in the last few weeks as everyone has been telling him to drop out. if he s able to do that and you look at the demographics of new york and you look at the new england state that s are going to vote next tuesday on april 26th, i think john kasich would be able to say, not only have i won in those states or at least come in second, but you look at all the polls we have and i m the only one who can beat hillary clinton in a head-to-head matchup. so take another look at me. i don t think he has i don t think he has a real reason to drop out, especially if he comes in second tonight. he s only won ohio. he came in second in new hampshire. he may come in second tonight. right. and he could probably do well next week. i understand the calls. in fact, even mitt romney today seemed to indicate that cruz or kasich should get out, and it seemed to me that he was signaling that kasich should be the one to get out. but i think kasich has a case to make that if no one gets to 1237, why not stay and try to win and try to lead the republican party? he ll say, you have to win ohio. i won ohio. i turned that state around. the thing i think is really hard for him is across the board in every one of these contests we ve seen the majority of people want an outsider. that is true tonight in new york and it will be true probably next week. he won t beat donald trump nexxt week. could he come in second over cruz? probably. tucker, how significant is this victory for dond trump? because he s i think in the last 14 polls he s been winning. however, he suffered a defeat in wisconsin. campaign had a few missteps. now he appears to have come roaring back in his home state. it looks like he s not winning it by a little. it looks like he s winning by a lot. going into a field of states that looks very good for him. i think had a few missteps may be one of most profound understatements i ve heard in a while. it s been a flagrant flaming disaster for the last month. tell us how really feel. i m not hostile. i m just an observer. but he won majority of an important state. this is a serious state, one of the biggest states. he just won it overwhelmingly. what does it tell us? he s running a brill valiant campaign? of course not. it tells us he s doing things, saying things that people wanted to hear. he s doing what the establishment on the republican side and the democratic side, you can say this about bernie as well, should have been doing. he is a referendum on them and they have come up far short. so the question is really, how will the parties adjust in the next three or four cycles to prevent something like this from happening again? you can t just say, we re going to make john kasich the nominee and forget this ever happened. that s not good fog work. you need to change. are they going to? julie, the trump campaign i think is acknowledging they had to change. they have new leadership. there s a shift in the interior workings of the campaign as they hunt for delegates around the country. trump will probably say tonight, the people who know me best elected me most. because it will be the highest margin likely, the next highest was massachusetts. will that be compelling for the rest of the republican party? you know, i think it s a compelling message. certainly he has a right to say it and he ll be right about it. bulook, donald trump, the math is irrevocable. he has to get to 1237. if he doesn t, to tucker s point, does the establishment get together and say, look, we will live with ted cruz who a year ago we all loathed and despised. but in order to save what is left of us and of our power, are we going to deliver this nomination to ted cruz on the second ballot, second ballot and 15th ballot in order to prevent a trump candidacy? and at that point does the republican party just splinter apart? because you have voters like in new york tonight and all over the country who will deliver a plurality to donald trump but will potentially see the nomination taken from him by the so-called party bosses. that is something the republican party and reince priebus, god bless him, has the worst job in america, something he has to be worried about more than anybody else. it seems like the republicans are ticked off that the so-called establishment, they don t have party bosses. democrats have them. they built them into the system, the superdelegates. reince is like, is it me? mitch mcdonnell is like, is it me? there are establishment people in washington who really would love that superdelegate system but they don t have it. anything could happen in 2020. there you go. so how does the delegate math work out for republicans? let s head back to bill hemmer for that at the billboard. bill, what about it? so we have crunch the numbers, bret, among all the states that remain. and we ve cross-referenced all the political websites. here s what we re going to do. we re going to take new york out of the equation because we do not know how the delegates will divide tonight. so a week from now, trump starts at 756, he knees to get to 1237. we think he ll do really well in rhode island, connecticut, delaware, maryland, pennsylvania. now we re in the month of may. there is very little information out of indiana. we do not know which way the hoosiers state will go at the moment. we stand by what we said a week ago, we believe it favors cruz. could change. we ll see. then you move to nebraska, that favors cruz as well as virginia favors trump. we think oregon goes for trump slightly, washington state for cruz slightly. again, all of this can change as we move through. now we re at june 7th. we think winner-take-all montana and south dakota both go for cruz. we think new mexico is too close to call, 50/50 split. so now we are in california. and as we said a week ago and a week prior to that, we think trump can get 100 delegates in california which takes him to 1,029. the same day new jersey winner-take-all we believe goes to trump as well. he s 157 shy of this number of 1237 if he were to get 80 delegates tonight from the state of new york, which is entirely possible, you cut this number in half and you re down to around 80 delegates after the 7th of june in california goes. at that point, bret, you would have about 170 unbound republican delegates who would go to cleveland, ohio, for the convention. and that s where the game will be played between june 8th and july 18th for those 170, if this scenario plays out. but again, check back in a week. it could all change, right? that s why we watch. bret, megyn, back to you. the art of the deal. that time frame, that is whether he could get those additional delegates. that may make the difference. absolutely right. martha mccallum has been looking at the exit polls an what new yorkers had to say after casting her votes. thanks, megyn. good evening. how donald trump won? new york voters want to shake things up and they want to do that big-time. look at these numbers. those who want an outsider trump clobbered the competition on this. he got 85% of the outsider vote. that s something he has split in the past in some places with ted cruz. kasich got 6% as you can see. they are also angry with the federal government. they want change there. he dominates with this grum as well, 72% on that measure. and we all remember when donald trump declared himself a candidate, a few blocks from here in the summer. he talked about immigration, got in hot water for talking about it. that issue is very strong for the voters in new york state. and like gop staters in all contests so far, here nearly 7 in 10 are concerned about the safety of letting in refugees from the war zone. they want to see that temporary ban that donald trump talked about on muslims entering the united states in big numbers and they went for him as well. he wins there clearly. so trump also carried some groups he doesn t usually win with tobtd. he did better among high income voters. he got 61% of those earning more than $100,000. yet only 50% of those earning less than $50,000. those are groups he s been real strong with in the past. so despite his strong win here in new york, however, the republican party from these numbers and everything we re seeing remains very divided, as you all were just talking about. 60% of gop voters say the republican campaign this year has divided the party. only 36% say that this race and all that has come with it has energized their party. the numbers are really much different than that on the democratic side. they seem to be very happy with how things are going and they feel it s energizing their party. take a look at this. this is strong as well. if trump is the nominee and this is among new york gop voters a quarter of them say that they would not vote for him if he becomes the nominee. for ted cruz, that number is 40%, dead set against him if he s the nominee. kasich who many believe appeals to a broad moderate voter, high income new york republican, 3 in 10, 30% say if he becomes the nominee they will not vote for john kasich. so some very strong feelings are out there. we re getting a very good feel for them in these exit polls tonight. we ll have more as we go through the evening. back to you. thank you. one important thing before we go to the campaign kpou boys, the democratic race is tight, too early to call now. we re getting raw vote totals coming in quickly, but it s tight. remember the breaking news at the beginning, ed henry saying 125,000 people may have been left off the rolls an investigation ongoing. that could factor in as we get more and more into the night. they re saying entire city blocks had their registration wiped out. these people show up to vote in brooklyn keep in mind, new yorkers are not used to being relevant in the presidential campaign. or ever waiting. we don t wait. you walk too slow on the sidewalk, you could be in real trouble. it s the one thing we re really irritated by. now they re being told, you can fill out a provisional ballot. can you imagine what s going on in brooklyn as these people hear that? that s a lot of people. keep that in mind as we go through the night. let s bring in our campaign cowb cowboy. karl rove was deputy chief of staff to president george w. bush. f fox news contribute rs. chris, take it away. thank you so much, bret. as we ve been saying it s a big night for donald trump. he s going to get 50%, 55% of the vote. that means he ll get if he does get more than 50% all 14 of the at-large delegates. then there are in effect separate elections in each of the 27 congressional districts. that s what i want to drill into right now with you, karl rove, because awful these congressional districts, particularly when you re talking about republican voters are not created equal, right? that s right. not all districts have the same number of republicans. let s take a look the some districts. congressional district 27 which is in the far western part of the zastate, buffalo, represent by congressman collins, the first member of the house to endorse donald trump, has 177,013 registered republicans. remember, this is a closed primary. you have to be a registered republican in order to participate. next up is cd 21, the northern part of the, 165,000. on the other hand, take these two districts, 15 in the bronx, jose serrano represents this district. there are 13,270 republicans and they get just as many delegates, three delegates, as each of these two districts up here get. charlie rangel s district in harlem, 16,307 republicans, they get three delegates. now, what we have is in these three areas, the ted cruz campaign which has an expertise in the ground game and a get out the vote effort has probably suggested they ve worked these hard with phone banks, mail, personal visits where possible. in order to get the same number of delegates. i want to make a point, karl. exactly. that the districts with the 170,000 republican voters and the districts with 13,000 republican voters each have three delegates at the convention. basically, a voter in the bronx has ten times the voting power of one upstate. right. now, just real quickly because i want to move on to the democrats and joe. what s a good night for donald trump? in other words, there are 95 delegates. is it 60 that s sort of the tipping point for him, 80? oh, no no. 60 would be a bad night. i think if he gets 85, it s a really good night for him. if it s 80 it s a good night. remember, the rules are if you get more than 50% in a congressional district you get all three districts. if you get less than 50% and somebody else gets more than 20%, then you get two and they get one. but let me bring in joe trippy. you were going to say first, you re surprised it s a close race and what county are you looking at on democratic side? we ll be looking at orange county, a county that s been a swing in the past. in 2004 it went for george bush with 54% of the vote, went to obama with 52% of the vote. this year, it went 57 i m really looking at it because last time around it went 57-40 for clinton. what will it do for sanders and clinton? is he closer than that? he could do better in swing areas than we thought. though it looks like eye sweeping victory for donald trump and a very close race on the democratic side, the cowboys over the course of the night will dig into the numbers to see how trump does in all of those congressional districts big and large and joe will try to figure out what will win on the democratic side. chris, thank you. by the way, it s buffalo, not buffalo. we have a projection. fox news can now project that ohio governor john kasich will place second in new york s presidential primary, leaving texas senator ted cruz to finish third based on exit polls and some early vote tallies. fox has already declared donald trump the winner in new york. that s a big second place finish for the governor of ohio. two questions remain tonight. by what margin does donald trump win the state, and what the heck is happening on the democratic side? 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(team sing) safelite repair, safelite replace. welcome back, everybody. breaking tonight, a big night for the republican front-runner donald trump as we await mr. trump s victory speech live from trump tower in new york city on 5th avenue tonight. we ll keep our eyes posted and bring you there just as soon as he begins. this is fox news projects trump has won his home state of new york. we are still meantime awaiting results on the democratic side. welcome back to the kelly file. we just projected john kasich will come in second here in new york, ted cruz third. now, fox news was able to project a trump victory just moments after the polls closed but the big question remains how much will he win by? and it is an important question for him. mr. trump needs a strong showing tonight as he looks to secure the nomination outright and prevent a contested convention in july. in recent weeks he has been engaged in a delegate by delegate battle with texas senator ted cruz who has largely outmaneuvered the businessman to secure delegates in the race to shore up delegate support on a hypothetical second ballot at the convention. see these delegates need to be wooed because if nobody gets to 1237 outright, then it goes to a second vote and then a lot of these delegates free up. and if they ve been wooed properly, they can abandon their candidate that the voters have told them to vote for and just vote their conscience. as a result, mr. trump has significantly shaken up his campaign staff and he s brought in campaign veterans who know this delegate process inside and out. joining me now brit hume our fox news senior political san lifan. your thoughts? big night for trump obviously. this does ease his path toward winning the nomination outright but it certainly doesn t guarantee it. the trump win was expected so i don t know how much effect it will have on his momentum. certainly he will claim momentum from it. a couple of noteworthy things. one is that trump seems according to the exit polls to be doing the least well in the place where he s known the best, that is to say new york city and doing much better everywhere else. you might expect that urban areas are less friendly to republicans generally and to conservatives than outlying areas. but nonetheless, that might tell us something about his ability were he the nominee to cut into the democratic party s expected margins in urban areas all over the country. obviously it would be very meaningful if he was doing really well in new york city, but apparently not. it s an expected win and a big win for him and guess what, megyn? we might have news tonight. john kasich might get a delegate or two. that s the first time that would have happened since, when, ohio? he might even close the gap between he and marco rubio who quit after florida but is still ahead of him. there s a real question about whether that could matter because every delegate counts at this point. and the question is whether even if trump can t secure this thing outright by june 7th when the voting stops, whether he will be close enough and every delegate matters to, a, make the case to the american people that it would be grossly unfair to give it to somebody else or show john kasich to release his delegates and help him put over the top or make the case to unbound delegates that it s time to get on the trump train. one presumes megyn by the time we get to the convention if donald trump doesn t have the requisite 1237 he and his delegate hunting operation, which i guess is really just getting started now under paul manafort who seems to have taken charge of much of the campaign, they would be working the other candidates still in the race or still holding delegates which could include marco rubio to try to get them to do what you just described, go ahead and endorse him, back him and so on. maybe that s what kasich is waiting for or may be waiting for some kind of bizarre or unheard of lightning to strike that hasn t happened in a half century or more. kasich is kind of mysterious about it when you ask him, what are you still doing here, buddy? you don t seem to be gaining ground. he still talks about how, people are going to want me because i m doing better against hillary. how fun a contested convention could be. it may be true for the media, but i don t know about the republican party. if something happened, megyn at the republican convention this summer like what happened to the democrats in 1924, i can guarantee you it wouldn t be any fun for anybody, least of all us who had to cover it. you may recall that convention went to 103 ballots but ford nominated a man from west virginia who ended up losing to calvin coolidge. let s hope it s not something like that. i ve got to ask your thoughts on what s happening on the democratic side. hill clint hillary clinton was ahead by double digits leading up to today. now it s too close to call. the numbers are putting it within about four points. now, it s still 9:26. they re still counting. your thoughts on how tight that race is. well, if this turned out to kind of be a squeaker for her after the polling suggested otherwise for so long, i think that would be harmful to her in this sense. she s still by virtue of the sense she has a pledge delegate lead and a superdelegate lead it seems prohibitive at this stage. but what would happen if the superdelegates thought, this candidate is really weak, we ve got to go in another direction? would they be willing to think about bernie sanders who is an unusual candidate to say the least, being kind of an out-and-out socialist and a manuel up in years who i think would be is looked at as nowhere near a mainstream candidate. but it would certainly i would think raise doubts about secretary clinton and her staying power. and if they if we hear more about brooklyn and disenfranchised voters whose registration was purged and were forced to fill out provisional ballots which no one wants to do, new yorkers have no patience for this kind of thing, maybe they re doing it. the story is not likely to leave us if this vote wientds up tight. brit, thank you. megyns thank you. we expect to hear from donald trump in just moments we re told 9:30. a couple moment as way from that. plus, wer just mentioning the war over republican delegates which is now so fierce that both the trump campaign and the rnc can chair were in the capitol today talking to gop leaders. ben.com aniche and monica crowley are next on what happened there. don t go away. what reince was doing was basically walking the members through how a convention is organized, what are the convention standing committees, how those committees are selected. here s the plan. you want a family and a career, but most of the time you feel like you re trying to wrangle a hurricane. the rest of the time, they re asleep. then one day, hr schedules a meeting with you out of the blue. and it s the worst 19 minutes of your career. but you don t sweat it because you and your advisor have prepared for this. and when the best offer means you re moving to the middle of nowhere, the boys say they hate the idea. but you pretend it s not so bad. and years later at thanksgiving, when one of them says what he s thankful for most, is this house, you realize you didn t plan for any of this you wouldn t have done it any other way. with the right financial partner, progress is possible. real is touching a ray. amazing is moving like one. real is making new friends. amazing is getting this close. real is an animal rescue. amazing is over twenty-seven thousand of them. there is only one place where real and amazing live. seaworld. real. amazing it s my job and it s i takealso my passion.rises. but with my back pain i couldn t sleep. so i couldn t get up in time. then i found aleve pm. aleve pm is the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12-hour strength of aleve. for pain relief that can last into the morning. and now. i m back. aleve pm for a better am. breaking tonight, we re awaiting remarks from donald trump as fox news project trump has won his home state of new york in the republican primary and may have a very good night picking up lots of delegates. we re waiting to see what the victory margin is. there s also new fallout regarding two competing meetings in new york today. hold on a second. it appears mr. trump is coming out. we were told it would be 9:30, and here it is heyn9:30. he ll be giving his victimry speech, the first state by which he s won more than 50%, it looks. now the question is by how many delegates. trump himself saying he would like to get about 80 tonight. karl rove suggesting 85 or more would make this a very good night for the trump campaign. and, as you heard moments ago, every single delegate now counts in this race. we could actually end this thing on june 7th with perhaps donald trump with 1237 outright, perhaps donald trump just short of that number at 50, maybe 100, maybe more. but the closer he is to that number, the better his case is that he should go into that convention as the presumptive nominee and the better his case that on the second ballot he should be considered. i want to bring in quickly as we await mr. trump ben domenech, public lift of the federalist, monica crowley, fox news contributor. ben, what are the stakes now that donald trump has won new york? i think a lot of people expected donald trump to do well in his home state. i certainly expected him to do well myself. i think this night is going to be very good for him. but this sets autopsy a situation where we ll have to see how much momentum ke take out of this. you see the future of this map where you go into states like indiana, states like california where you essentially have 53 elections, and it will be very challenging for him. stand by. i ll get back to you as soon as he s finished. let s listen to mr. trump. the people of new york when they give us this kind of a vote, it s just incredible. and i guess we re close to 70% and we re going to end at a very high level and get a lot more delegates than anyone projected, even in their wildest imagination. so i just want to thank everybody here. i want to thank my family. i want to thank usa! usa! usa! usa! i really want to thank my team. my team has been amazing. you know, it s actually a team of unity. it s evolving, but people don t understand that. the press understands it, they just don t want to talk about it. that s okay. just keep talking. it s very important. keep talking. but this has been an incredible evening. it s been an incredible day and week. we went all over new york state, new york state has problems like virtually every other state in the union. our jobs are being sucked out of our states. they re being taken out of our country. and we re not going to let it happen anymore. we re going to stop it. very importantly and i have behind me, vi to say we have some of our great businessman of the world. karl icon, the great steve roth. steve is building a big building on central park south. it s a tremendous success. i said, steve, congratulation on the building. he said, donald, it s nothing compared to what s happening with you. my man, we re proud of him. but we have our great leaders. it has been really something. it has been really something amazing. and believe me, we are going to use our great businesspeople to negotiate unbelievable trade deals so we bring our jobs back and we don t let our companies go to mexico and all of these other countries anymore. we re going to keep the jobs here. you re going to be very proud of this country very soon. we re going to build our military bigger, better, stronger than ever before. nobody is going to mess with us. that i can tell you. we re going to take care of our vets. we re going our vets are great people, and we have forgotten our vets. illegal immigrants are taken care of in many cases better than our vets. that s not going to happen anymore. that is not going to happen. we re getting rid of obamacare. it s going to be repealed and replaced. it is a total disaster with premiums going up 35%, 45%, 55%. it s going to probably end of his own volition. re bringing common core. it s going to be over. and we re bringing education locally. local communities are going to take care of their educational needs and people have been wait forge that for a long time. so, with all of the things that have happened today, tonight, and over the week, i tell you what, this has been an amazing week. all over new york state we went to syracuse, we went to albany. 20,000 people on average, we d have 15,000 to 20,000 people. we went to rochester. we went to bethpage. we went all over. and you know what? the people of this country and the people of this state truly are great and amazing people. we are going to be so strong again. we are going really. jlegitimate legitimately. to be so great again. i just can t wait. we don t have much of a race anymore based on what i m seeing on television. senator cruz is just about mathematically eliminated. and we ve won another state, as you know. we have wons millions of more votes than senator cruz, millions and millions of more votes than governor kasich. we ve won and now especially after tonight close to 300 delegates more than senator cruz. we re really, really rocking. we expect we re going to have an amazing number of weeks because these are places, and they re in trouble. they re in big trouble. when you look at pennsylvania, when you look at indiana, when you look at maryland and rhode island and so many places, we have problems everywhere you look. we are going to solve those problems. and one of the big problems is the economy and jobs, and that is my wheelhouse. so, again, i want to thank everybody. it s really nice to win the delegates with the votes, you know? it s really nice. trump! trump! trump! trump! nobody should be given delegates which is a ticket to victory, and it s not a fair ticket. and even though we re leading by a lot and we can t be caught, it s impossible to catch us, nobody should take delegates and claim victory unless they get those delegates with voters and voting. and that s what s going to happen. you watch. because the people aren t going to stand for it. it s a crooked system. it s a system that s rigged. we re going to go back to the old way. it s called, you vote and you win. wielae ll we ll be going into t convention no matter what happens and i think we re going to go in so strong and over the next number of weeks we just saw a poll come out of california which is an unbelievable poll, but we re going to go into the convention i think as the winner. but nobody is take an election away with the way they re doing it in the republican party. and by the way, i am no fan of bernie. but i ve seen bernie win win win and then i watch and they say he has no change chance ce of winn. the republican system is worse. so i want to just thank everybody. i have great, great admiration and praise for the city of new york and the state of new york. i can think of nowhere that i would rather have this victory. so we love you all. have a great evening. we celebrate. and tomorrow morning we go back to work. i m flying tomorrow morning to indiana. i m going to pennsylvania. i will be all over. so we re going to celebrate for about two hours. then early in the morning i get up and we begin working again. thank you, everybody. and thank you, new york! we love new york! we love new york! thank you very much, everybody. thank you. donald trump speaking at trump tower. just want to bring you this update which happened during his remarks. fox news is now ready to project that hillary clinton will beat bernie sanders in new york s democratic presidential primary based on the fox news exit polls and early vote tallies. so she has pulled out a victory here tonight, bret. she has. and it was nip and tuck there for a little while as you looked at the exit polls but we re told by the decision desk as the raw vote totals started to come in it s starting to separate. they re confident they can make a call. we ll see what the final number is tonight, but bernie sanders can make a case that he has made it a race here in new york where she served as u.s. senator for eight years. the problem for the democrats is it s not necessarily in their party s best interest for their race to go on longer. even though they have more unity than republicans do, you know, these debates have gotten vicious between bernie and hillary. he s taken the gloves off. i think it finally dawned on him that he needs to go after her if he wants to seize this nomination. so he s forcing her positioning to move in a way that might not advantage her in a general, and he s really going after her on the wall street stuff, which he s trying to hang that albatross around her neck before she gets out of this race. it s had an effect. however, if you look at the exit polls tonight, megyn, one thin on the democratic side is 7 in 10 said they would vote for the other candidate if they won in the democratic party. that s not the same on the republican side according to the exit polls. so unity eventually will come it seems like a little bit easier for the democrats. stand by because we have ed henry, our chief white house correspondent, live at clinton campaign headquarters. ed? reporter: megyn, obviously a big call by fox news. i can tell you i ve been at almost every one of the clinton victory parties over the many primaries and caucuses or at least primary nights. she s lost some of them. obviously this is the most raucous one. this is her adopted home state of new york. as media results have been put on tv screens, they ve been cheering, chanting i m with her. there s a band here. much more festive than some of the other scenes i ve seen. the key question as bret said, what is the margin of victory? some exit polls suggesting clinton was only leading by four points. bernie sanders even in defeat is going to spin this as beating expectations, that she just barely won. we ll see what the final numbers are. but the very bottom line for sanders is, he s fallen behind enough on delegates that if he is losing tonight, as we project, he simply is mathematically getting closer and closer to being eliminated, megyn. ed henry, thank you very much. back to clinton headquarters in a moment. i also want to tell you right after the break we ll bring back monica and ben. we re going to talk about what we just heard from donald trump. very different sounding tonight. and ted cruz gave a speech earlier also very different sounding in the messaging. these two men are starting to position themselves in a totally different way than we have seen before. what does it mean? 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(pilot talking to tower on radio) once you get out here. there s just one direction. forward. one time: now. and there s just one sound. you and us. together. telling the world. we re coming for you. lwith theonce driven,ew 2016. lexthere s no going back.o. we were in a german dancd group. i wore lederhosen. so i just started poking around on ancestry. then, i decided to have my dna tested through ancestry dna. it turns out i m scottish. so, i traded in my lederhosen for a kilt. we heard from senator ted cruz earlier tonight, and we also just heard from donald trump. and the messages from each candidate sounded very different than we ve heard from them in the past. if you missed senator cruz, here s a bit of him now. do we have it? this generation needs to answer a new set of questions. can we? should we? will we? are we still those people? those dreamers and doers. are america s greatest generations in our past? or are our best days yet ahead? we must unite the republican party because doing so is the first step toward uniting all americans. unity and speaking about how america is at a point of choosing. and you heard donald trump tonight sounding, you tell me, more presidential? senator cruz, not lyon ted. back with us, ben domenech and monica crowley. monica, what do you think? i don t know if i ve ever heard donald trump call ted cruz senator cruz. there was definitely a change in his tone and rrhetoric. this is classic donald trump. he s in his element when he s the victor. it hit all the themes that got him to this point, megyn. he hit illegal immigration, jobs, repealing obamacare, strengthening the military. discipline. right. discipline. now he realizes that. and there is a natural maturation of both the candidates and his campaign that s going on here with this hiring a very seasoned political experienced operative that know the process, delegate hunters like paul man. be able to maneuver and manage the process should it go to a contested convention in july. he understands now that, you know, this campaign just got really real. and if he wants to win, he has got to go along with, i think a much more substantive and responsible tone because now he understands he is not just speaking for. we have seen fewer interviews and fewer tweets from him. more disciplined. i want to ask you, ben, whether all of that will be enough to get him to 1237 by june 7th because, you know, some of these analysts are saying you need a running start in these states. that s the real problem for him because he is so far behind the eight ball. you talk about adding these people paul paul manafort and others. he thought he was going to be able to rack up victories as he was doing a month ago. instead he has had this past month where he has been struggling delegate fight. didn t matter. one of the reasons why last week. maybe a little bit shall we say charitable inaccurate. something i would just think i would call a lie. the fact of the matter is the fact of the matter is as donald trump knows the way for him to become the nominee of the republican party is simple. he has to win 1237. if he doesn t, that dramatically increases the eickly hood that ted cruz would prevail. that is real what he said. ted cruz s odds of achieving 1237 before it gets to the convention is slim and none. sure. big difference between that and being mathematically eliminated from being the nominee of the republican party. what ted cruz is fighting for and slogging for in that speech in pennsylvania. that was another message we heard, mondayca. and donald trump saying nobody should claim delegates unless they got those delegates through voting. that you shouldn t be able to claim delegates unless you got them through voting because right now the system is set up such that you can get delegates even if it wasn t through voting. that s right. this has been the process for the republican party for many, many years, megyn. this isn t something new that was just sprung this year on donald trump. this has been his theme. his theme all along has been the american people you are victims. you are victims of illegal immigration. victims of a bad economy. you ever victims of poor leadership in the republican party and the democratic party. you are victims of bad trade deals. and that was very powerful to him. whether there is validity to his argument or not, it resonating now i am one of you. i m being victimized by this process. that s resonating with a lot of people. you saw it repeated again tonight. i believe he is going to carry this forward. i also think he is understanding. he is not just going to be the spokesman for the republican party. as he goes forward and as he continues to win. is he got to get serious about speaking for the country. that s why you are seeing change in tone. also trump corey lewandowski was demoted and paul manafort stepping in. this is a team of unity but it is evolving. thank you both so much. thank you, megyn. let s now take a look at the states ahead with larry sabato. larry, if trump pulls out 8 a delegates possibly in new york tonight, how does it make his path look realistically, what are the odds of getting to 1237 up by june 7th? this was expected, megyn, i don t think it changes the outlook and the outlook is still murky. that is donald trump is by no means assured of 1237. and it s going to come down, i think, to two big states that really matter, indiana in early may and then california on june 7th. and we can talk about the particulars, if you want, but, you know, every time there is a big victory, whether it s for ted cruz in wisconsin or for donald trump tonight in new york, the candidate says we ve got big move. we have got the big momentum. really, it s not big move and not little no either. every state matters and every delegate matters. it s like slo-mo. sorry. tight segment tonight. stu stephens here as well. i want to get your thoughts on what we are seeing tonight. big night for donald trump because, if he hadn t won, it would be a bad night for donald trump. but, larry is exactly right. this is about getting to 1237. i think that it would be a better shot for those who don t want donald trump, if john kasich would not compete in california, if john kasich would not compete in indiana. if he would let cruz take those delegates. this is all about not getting to 1237 for donald trump. but, you know, trump is benefiting from that both of them staying in like that. but, listen, i think the big winner tonight is hillary clinton. because hillary clinton. i have got it leave it at that. crushes donald trump in the general. she has won her home state tonight and bernie sanders is feeling that we ll be right back. i m billy, and i quit smoking with chantix. i decided to take chantix to shut everybody else up about me quitting smoking. i was going to give it a try, but i didn t really think it was going to really happen. after one week of chantix, i knew i could quit. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. chantix definitely helped reduce my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don t take chantix if you ve had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it. if you have these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away as some can be life-threatening. tell your doctor if you have heart or blood vessel problems, or develop new or worse symptoms. get medical help right away if you have symptoms of a heart attack or stroke. decrease alcohol use while taking chantix. use caution when driving or operating machinery. most common side-affect is nausea. being a non-smoker feels great. ask your doctor if chantix is right for you. to capture investing ideas that instantly gives you stock prices, earnings, and dividends. an equity summary score that consolidates the stock ratings of top analysts into a single score. and $7.95 online u.s. equity trades, lower than td ameritrade, schwab, and e-trade, you realize the smartest investing idea isn t just what you invest in, but who you invest with. mary buys a little lamb. one of millions of orders on this company s servers. accessible by thousands of suppliers and employees globally. but with cyber threats on the rise, mary s data could be under attack. with the help of the at&t network, a network that senses and mitigates cyber threats, their critical data is safer than ever. giving them the agility to be open & secure. because no one knows & like at&t. if you have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis isn t it time to let the real you shine through? 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