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Ukraine should start negotiations on eu membership lets say in a couple of years could be extremely so i have been fighting now for the european perspective. For the political recognition for ukraine, for the political right for ukraine to become a member, and membership perspective will definitely come in the course of implementation of the agreement. And it will come sooner rather than late r. After yanukovych refused to sign the agreement, i held a speech in berlin about that, and i was asked, you know, look, what is your take . When are you going to able to sign the agreement, and my point...

>> or negotiating. >> or negotiating. >> keep in mind when this was last being, the same concept was last being discussed in the bush administration, there were members of both the department of homeland security and the commerce department up on the hill every day when they were doing this i'm not seing that now. >> thank you very much for your time, appreciate it. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2013] "usa a discussion with today" founder al neuharth, then nbc's senior political editor mark murray. al neuhar...