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Relatives who one of our crews met outside a residential building here that in fact patrick was the man who was steering that plane. Patrick sondenheimer. Weve known from lufthansa that he was a captain who had been flying with the airline both lufthansa and germanwings as well as another German Airline called condor for ten years. He had 6,000 flying hours. By all means a very very experienced pie lt. He was also the one who tried to get back into the cockpit, first knocking a little bit normally obviously and then trying to kick the door down in the end as the plane descended down there. So ...

And im victor blackwell. One of the key points well be looking for, it was a bomb that took down that Russian Airliner with 224 people on board . French media reports that european analysis of the planes data recorders uphold the theory that an explosive device inside that plane, yes, brought it down. We want to go to mary, she is waiting with us to listen to what they have to say and michaelwise is with us as well. Mary, there has been some criticism weve heard from analysts who say listen, a bomb is why this plane went down, but we have yet to hear that from egyptian officials. When you see ...

By kind of resetting what the standards are. what type of information wie going to require from airports, and to say to folks, are you really certain you've locked down the secure side, the airside of the airport operations? that is also going to involve going to places like this and say, you know, if there is a u.s. interest in particular, for the travel back and forth, what type of requirements are we going to add on to their operations in order for us to continue doing business with them? you know, following the days of 2001, we had, we obviously changed our security profile, and then we tr...

Analyzed. what was interest sergeant cvr he said that was downloaded, they're finalizing the transcript, but there was a noise heard in the last seconds, and that that cvr will be analyzed by special labs to try to determine the nature of that noise. and you have to wonder if that noise is going to be the key to tell us what happened. >> yeah, let's bring in our panel here. we have our aviation analysts, mary schiavo and david susie, also cnn contributor, michael weiss. david, i want to start with you with what's the big headline from you, i'd imagine that that noise heard in the last second w...

Anything else. i think that's what i take away from it most. >> yeah, mary, no conclusion reached based on the analysis of the recordings, also, reached -- based on the analysis of the wreckage there kroostz these 13 kilometers. what's the headline for you here? >> well, like david, and i think that it the egyptians are right, this is far too early to be conclu concluding oh it was a bomb because as david was mentioning, the way they have to do sound analysis is compare them this with the universe of the cockpit voice recordings sthunds they have from other crashes, from the french plane uta. ...