was that officer specifically targeted? the manhunt right now. the medevac helicopter, crashing into the woods. the search. the discovery. and, what went wrong? the controversial video. the officer firing through his windshield at a suspect on the sidewalk. and tonight, the consumer warning. now nearly 100 sick. more than 20 states. the lettuce they want you to throw out. good evening. it s great to have you with us on this friday night. we begin with the moment in court, the former police officer, a suspected serial killer. joseph james deangelo, suspected in 12 murders and at least 50 rapes. believed to have left chilling phone messages for victims after the attacks. tonight, his apparent state in the courtroom, and what he then said to the judge. whit johnson was in the courtroom. reporter: authorities say this is the face of the golden state killer. joseph deangelo handcuffed in a wheelchair, listening to the litany of charges in a haze. two counts of murder in a special circumstance. reporter: the 72-year-old facing cameras for the first time. a hush falling over a tense courtroom as the alleged serial killer was asked if he has an attorney. answering in a raspy voice. i have a lawyer. reporter: family members and victims in tears at the sight of the man they call a monster. i was 13 years old. i hope they find my buttons in his backyard to my pants. reporter: investigators now revealing how they tracked down their suspect more than 40 years after the first crimes occurred. they used dna found at crime scenes and plugged it into a genealogy website called gedmatch. investigators connected that dna of the presumed killer to unwitting family members in the database to help crack the cold case. there is no question this dna testing that was done, which is your traditional forensic dna test, this is the golden state killer. courtroom, slumped over, and had delayed reactions to the questions from the judge. after the hearing, his public defender confirming he underwent a medical evaluation. she s accusing them of attempting to try this case in the media. whit, thank you. we re going to turn next to tom brokaw, accused of sexual misconduct by a former colleague. tonight, he s firing back with a blistering response, calling her a character assassin, saying the allegations were like a drive-by shooting. here s eva pilgrim. reporter: tonight, longtime nbc nightly news anchor tom brokaw is facing sexual misconduct allegations from a former colleague. i m tom brokaw. reporter: linda vester says there were three unwanted advances when she was a new correspondent for the network in the 1990s, including one at a new york hotel room. vester says brokaw showed up uninvited. he leans over with his index finger and puts it on my mouth to silence me and says, this is our compact. and he took the same hand, reached behind my head and tried to force me to kiss him. but i didn t say anything because he could ruin my career. reporter: tonight, the 78-year-old veteran newsman, who still appears on the network, denies the allegations. brokaw writing to colleagues in a predawn e-mail obtained by the hollywood reporter, i am facing a long list of grievances from a former colleague who left nbc news angry that she had failed in her pursuit of stardom. my family and friends are stunned and supportive. brokaw says vester invited him to her new york hotel room and that, quote, i should not have gone but i emphatically did not verbally and physically attack her. brokaw calls vester a character assassin. what was her goal? hard to believe it wasn t much more look at me than me too. the washington post is also reporting former today show anchor ann curry warned at least two people in management about sexual misconduct concerns involving her co-host matt lauer in 2012. when lauer was fired in november over sexual misconduct allegations, nbc said there had been no prior complaints. tonight, matt lauer says in a new statement addressing various allegations against him, i fully acknowledge that i acted inappropriately. however, any allegations or reports of coercive, aggressive or abusive actions on my part, at any time, are absolutely false. david, brokaw was supposed to give a commencement address today at sacred heart university, but he has cancelled. saying he doesn t want to be a distraction. tonight, the nbc news chairman says in a message to employees that the network is committed to providing a workplace environment where everyone should feel safe and protected. there can be no exception. david? eva, thank you. next to the remarkable images, jim jong-un stepping over the border into south korea. here s the moment. a short time later, both leaders stepping back into north korea. it was really something to witness, as the world was watching. both declaring the war is over. and what president trump said today with his face to face meeting coming next. terry moran, in south korea. reporter: high drama in the dmz. kim jong-un, emerging from north korea. his phalanx of bodyguards slips away and he strides alone to the border. a warm handshake with south korean president moon jae-in. and then, with that step, kim makes history. the first north korean leader to set foot on south korean territory. unscripted, the two leaders then cross back into the north as if to show that fearsome border is just a line on the ground. this summit marked by pageantry. the men, introducing their wives. kim jong-un s wife all smiles. in the end, the two leaders promising to sign a peace treaty this year, formally ending the korean war and pledging the denuclearization of the peninsula. sealing the deal with a bear hug. we are one nation, kim declared. but beyond this summit, the family of american otto warmbier reminding the world of the brutal nature of kim s regime. filing a lawsuit this week accusing north korea of the torture and murder of their son in a north korean prison. and in washington, president trump, whose tough talk about fire and fury changed the dynamic here, now optimistically looking forward to his own meeting with kim. i ll be watching people that failed so badly over the last 25 years explaining to me how to make a deal with north korea. i get a big, big kick out of that. but we are doing very well. i think that something very dramatic could happen. terry, from just south of the dmz tonight. the president says they ve narrowed down the possible locations for the summit? reporter: that s right, there are two or three possible locations. but it s been tough. both sides want it on neutral ground. it needs to be close because kim jong-un s airplane only has a range of a couple of thousand miles. so, singapore has risen to the top of the list, but mongolia is making a bid, too. so we ll see. terry, thank you. and the president also celebrating the findings from the republicans on the house intelligence committee. but democrats on the committee point out several key people were not interviewed. here s cecilia vega tonight. reporter: president trump today feeling vindicated. we were honored. it was a great report. reporter: republicans on the house intelligence committee concluding in 243 heavily redacted pages there is, quote, no evidence that the trump campaign colluded, coordinated, or conspired with the russian government. no collusion, which i knew anyway. no coordination, no nothing. reporter: special counsel robert mueller s probe, still ongoing. but this one on capitol hill, consumed by political warfare from the start. democrats on the committee calling today s republican report fundamentally flawed. it does criticize the president s aides for poor judgment in that now infamous trump tower campaign meeting. don jr., jared kushner, paul manafort and a russian lawyer whom they were told had dirt on hillary clinton. wikileaks, i love wikileaks. reporter: and it blasts the campaign s praise of wikileaks. this wikileaks stuff is unbelievable. reporter: which published democrats e-mails stolen by russian hackers. republicans also criticized intelligence agencies for concluding the kremlin wanted president trump to win the election. democrats charge those republicans prematurely ended the investigation, ignored key evidence, and failed to interview key witnesses like michael flynn and george papadopoulos. they call it a systematic effort to muddy the waters and to deflect attention away from the president. let s get to cecilia vega, live at the white house. the report also mentions the trump tower meeting with the russian lawyer. she had long insisted she s not a kremlin operative, but we re finding her ties to the putin regime are deeper? reporter: yeah, we ve obtained e-mails that show she has ties to the kremlin that go back for years. look at what she told nbc today. quote, i m a lawyer and an informant. since 2013, i have been actively communicating with the office of the russian prosecutor general. david, that s a top kremlin official. an eye-opening quote. cecilia, thank you. and next to the warning from authorities after a sheriff s deputy was shot and killed. now they believe he may have been specifically targeted. the suspect seen moments after the attack on surveillance. officers going door to door now. and what we re learning tonight. here s linzie janis. reporter: tonight, with the manhunt for suspected cop killer john williams intensifying, news of a possible motive. williams on the run since wednesday, suspected of killing corporal eugene cole and stealing his cruiser. williams then caught minutes later on surveillance video allegedly robbing this convenience store. sources now say corporal cole may have been targeted after he was involved in the arrest of williams girlfriend last weekend on drug charges. the fbi releasing these images showing the 29-year-old s extensive body tattoos. if john williams is listening to me, i would like to address him directly. we will do anything to resolve this situation peacefully. reporter: some residents in this rural community are arming themselves in case they come in contact with the dangerous fugitive. he s probably got more to worry about from us than we have from him. reporter: authorities are restricting hunting in the area as they search. the funeral for corporal cole is monday. david? linzie, thank you. and the medevac chopper going down in the woods. killing three crew members on board. all-terrain vehicles used the find the wreckage. here s david kerley, on the often risky emergency missions. reporter: tonight, investigators are in this wooded area of north wisconsin, examining the wreckage that left a medevac crew of three dead. it was like a lot of rotors hitting trees. you know, that chopping sound and then it was quiet. reporter: having just dropped off a patient, the chopper went down just before 11:00 at night. in the past decade, 83 medevac helicopters have been involved in accidents, killing a total of 100 people. medevac flights are often at night, sometimes in bad weather, which is why the ntsb wants companies to do a better job of assessing risk. the irony is entirely, the very people that go out to save lives are unfortunately crashing and claiming lives. reporter: in wisconsin, the company has temporarily grounded its other helicopter while the investigation continues. david? david, thank you. next tonight to the growing teacher walkouts. images from arizona and colorado this evening. in denver, teachers walking out for higher pay and more funding in schools. and in arizona tonight, teachers plan to stay on the picket line, they say, indefinitely. and the controversy growing on capitol hill after paul ryan forced the chaplain to step down without giving a reason. patrick conroy will step down. some democrats believe it s because of a prayer he gave during last fall s tax debate, urging that everyone gets a fair shot. a spokesman for speaker ryan says that s not the reason why. there s still much more ahead on world news tonight. the controversial police takedown. the former nfl athlete speaking out after a violent parking lot confrontation. and what police are now saying. the consumer warning tonight. the type of lettuce they want everyone to throw out. and the avengers are right here tonight. you ll hear from them, coming up. and the avengers are right here tonight. you ll hear from them, coming up. around the clock. and with a $0 copay if you are new to toujeo, that s something to groove about. let s groove tonight. share the spice of life. from the makers of lantus, baby slice it right. toujeo provides blood sugar- lowering activity all day, all night, and beyond, proven blood sugar control all day and all night, and can significantly lower your a1c. toujeo is used to control high blood sugar in adults with diabetes. it contains 3 times as much insulin in 1 milliliter as standard insulin. don t use toujeo to treat diabetic ketoacidosis, during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you re allergic to insulin. get medical help right away if you have a serious allergic reaction such as body rash, or trouble breathing. don t reuse needles, or share insulin pens. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which can be life-threatening. it may cause shaking, sweating, fast heartbeat, and blurred vision. check your blood sugar levels daily. injection site reactions may occur. don t change your dose of insulin without talking to your doctor. tell your doctor about all your medicines and medical conditions. check insulin label each time you inject. taking tzds with insulins like toujeo may cause heart failure that can lead to death. find your rhythm and keep on grooving. let s groove tonight. ask your doctor about toujeo. share the spice of life. each day justin at work. walk. and after work. he does it all with dr. scholl s. only dr. scholl s has massaging gel insoles that provide all-day comfort. to keep him feeling more energized. dr. scholl s. born to move. next tonight here, a violent police takedown caught on camera in georgia. the man, a former nfl athlete, unarmed at the time, is speaking out. here s steve osunsami. i m not even doing anything, man. reporter: this is one of the eyewitness cell phone videos that prosecutors south of atlanta tonight are studying frame by frame. 30-year-old desmond marrow is already in handcuffs when you see henry county police wrestle him to the ground, and then this happens. i can t breathe. i can t breathe. i can t breathe. reporter: the former college football star and nfl athlete lost a tooth and had to be hospitalized. police were called after a roadside dispute with another driver who he says was using racial slurs. there s an altercation in the parking lot. it s about to get physical. reporter: but look again, police say they see it differently. in their report saying that marrow shouted several times that he was not able to breathe, but as he was shouting, he was clearly breathing. marrow says he wasn t acting. at one point i felt dead or going to die. those are the only things i remember. reporter: prosecutors are also looking at this video, from when police arrived. police were told he had a gun, and this may have been why. i would have shot him in the head for some [ bleep ] like that, where i come from. reporter: prosecutors tonight say they know this video is disturbing, but also say marrow is still charged with aggressive driving. steve, thank you. when we come back, the lettuce they want you to throw out. nearly 100 sickened in more than 20 states. and the body cam footage showing an officer firing through his windshield at the suspect. n a moment.in a moment. firing throug his windshield at the suspect. we ll be right back. right back. that s why my owner gives me k9 advantix ii. it kills fleas, ticks, and mosquitoes. mosquitoes too? 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[laughter] for an old man you are risking a heart attack. dana: are you going to make it? juan: seven years to go. the cpac audience went wild. so this was a rally. that s what i thought it was going to be and i think his staff thought it was going to be something about increasing sanctions on north korea. as you say, he has kind of got to it at the very end. but as an after thought. he was far more interested in to pick up on the steak house analogy of throwing out the chunks of red meat everywhere he turned. i was surprised that he was throwing out chunks though that had to do with things like democrats abandon daca. i m the one who cares. wait a minute, he is the one who ended daca and set this march deadline. now he finds himself in a situation the deadline is approaching and he has got nothing. and the democrats are willing to take a risk. i hope they are having a little more spine than they did last time when schumer backed out on that budget deal. and then this business about lock her up. jesse, it just seems to me like, you know, what would you say, greg, i said a 1970s hit. do you know what i mean? we have been through that. but he still. greg: it s his free bird. kimberly: oldy but a goody. classic rock. jesse: snake. juan: it s like he is going back. he needs a hillary. he needs an obama. because he just needs somebody to be jesse: kimberly, i think every politician has a boogie man out there, whether it s at home or abroad that they use to score points against. and hillary continues to be out there in the conversation. so why not take a shot? juan: she lost. jesse: say that again, that s human psychology one-on-one. he was explaining why you lose in two years in a way at people at home understands. oh, it s so much work you already won. that s the best so persuasive, i think. you are looking at me like i m from out of space. juan: this looks how unprepared is he for the job. never been a congressman and senator or governor. oh this is really hard. who knew healthcare could be so complicated? to me this is subject of ridicule. greg: at least that s honest. juan: honest, oh my gosh. dana: working on policies good foreve for our opponents. may not realize those policies are good for them but we are doing it anyway. i thought that was effective. jesse: said a few nice things he said about keeping his promise. he bragged obviously, the only politician that s actually kept more promises than he made during the campaign. but when you look back, besides the wall, a lot of the stuff he has delivered on and the audience really enjoyed that. kimberly: they did. he is a man of the people even though he is a new york billionaire. he s relatable because his language, his rhetoric isn t like floury. flowery. it s down to earth. something for everybody there this is my guy. he is not trying to talk above me. not trying to talk around me. making me feel like i m here for you. we have got things in common. i m getting it done. that s like a reassuring feeling. it s not like the typical politician where you go i can t relate to that person at all. juan: can i play skunk at the garden party for a second? kimberly: be yourself. i can smell from here. juan: i think he promised to do away with obamacare. jesse: mandate is gone. the mandate is long gone, juan. juan: obamacare is real scott walkner johnson thinking about getting out. infrastructure. i don t see any infrastructure spending, no. jesse: if democrats could come to the table, juan, you would actually get some infrastructure. juan: how about i promise to cut the deficit. the minute i get in there e oh. jesse: just wind isis off the map. how about that promise. greg: amazing democrats care about a deficit and trump did that for them. what kimberly and dana and juan says the presentation is an old school populist. gets up there and he is tell you this is what we are going to do when you pull back the reason we have disagreements all of you was do. almost everything he does is common sense centrism. he talk presidency enforced border and 1.7 million people. talks about gun talking about popular proactive solutions that some the nra might not like. tax reform, if people think that really helped the rich, they re wrong. dana: can i add one other thing he did today it wasn t in the cpac speech but in his press conference with martin turnbull. he talked briefly but it was interesting insight into that he is getting the briefings and he understands what s happening in syria. and he said it was disgraceful. 250 innocent people that we know of were killed targeted by russians and syrians and we have a huge mess on our hands there the one thing that s a little bit difficult to understand is he says that but also in the same speech or in the preference he says, you know, we have degraded isis. we have taken over their territory and we re out of there. that is not sustainable. both of those things cannot be true u going forward in a second year of a presidency your foreign policy pieces get really important and little bit difficult to deal with. jesse: absolutely right. juan: before we go, it s kind of a serious note there are stories now that indicate that the russians were in touch with top leadership before they attacked. dana: it s the same guy. that report is terrible. you could tell that the president knew about it and he was talking about it. jesse: all right. efforts there to protect stoneman douglas high school but he didn t take action. the president has some words for the armed officer that domgd his duties that day up next. 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yes, he was. and what should he have done? went in. addressed the killer. killed out killer. how much time went by that he did not go in that he could have gone in? minutes, minutes. i think it was upwards i think he remained outside of upwards of four minutes. what would you say to the family. devastated, sick to my stomach. there are no words. kimberly: president trump also had words about that officer today. he whole life example. when it came time to get in there and do something, he didn t have the courage or something happened. he heard it right at the beginning. so he certainly did a poor job. that s the case where somebody was outside. they re trained. they didn t react properly under pressure or they were a coward. it was a real shot to the police department. kimberly: the president addressing, obviously everybody devastated. can you imagine the family members and these poor students that were murdered to think my god, you could have done something if you reacted. how many lives could have you saved? what could have you done but, instead you stood and tried to protect yourself instead of trying to save others, which is your duty? greg: there is a couple of elements to this whole story that are just infuriating. and it makes me infuriated at sheriff israel because he said there are no words. but when he was up at that town hall, he had a lot of words for dana loesch. there were 18 calls from people about this guy. there were nearly 40 home visits. two tips to the fbi. you found out scott peterson had warnings passed on to him about this mad man before. this the fbi tip was pretty incredible. said the guy was going to explode. then have you sheriff israel deflect trying to get the audience at that town hall to focus on dana loesch. and like this wouldn t have happened if it wasn t for guns, guns, guns. meanwhile, if he is aware of all of this stuff. dana: what about him? greg: this guy has got to go. this is like this is i mean, scott peterson, who knows what happens when this moment comes, do you freeze, if he freeze, he did have prior knowledge about this. and their job for the police is they have to be the first one in there. they rush in so we can run away. and he didn t do it. kimberly: yet others that had no weapon rushed in to try to. greg: rotc guys. kimberly: rushed in and tried to save the coach and others rushed in and had nothing to defend or protect themselves. unbelievable to me. dana? dana: like a fire firefighter saying i m not going in that burning house to save somebody. hang out out here. the thing that also bothers me about that sheriff. i didn t say anything on the day publicly, but he was so infuriating about and offputting thanking all of the first responders answered went through all of them. and did you such a good job. you did such a good job. and every single press conference for three days is great how everybody else had done. in the meantime whether they didn t know about this until recently or trying to cover it up is so devastating for the family. just that point i think it was jake tapper tweeted some information that they like deliberately egg northward the people that actually got there first. it was another county of officers. allegedly there was another police department that had gotten there first and did a lot in terms of first responding. and the sheriff israel kind of ignored that. he is a very political guy. he seems to be a real operator where you don t want that. you want more law enforcement. i have seen pictures of him smiling with hillary, smiling with bernie sanders. you know, i m not accusing him of anything, that s not what i out of a sheriff, i just want a straight shooter. i have a few words for him. he said i have no words. how about i m sorry? how about we failed. i would have liked to hear a little accepting responsibility with his deputy that didn t do his job. kimberly: he should go. jesse: he should go. when they found out that this guy was derelict. they just suspended him. they didn t even really fire him. you probably can t even fire someone. and now the guy retires with full benefits. the fact that state, local and federal agencies all failed. yet all the sudden they want to blame the nra makes no sense to me here. kimberly: okay, juan? juan: i thought he was trying to blame the fbi. jesse: the fbi should accept some blame, too they have more than the sheriff. juan: let me just say it s so easy to blame someone else. you think about it, jesse, almost a million calls. a million calls. they have got to pick a needle out of that haystack. that can be difficult especially when you are dealing with laws in florida. today a lookout of discussion about this so-called baker act which allows you to involuntarily take somebody and commit them because you see them as a trust danger to themselves or danger to others. well, apparently, psychiatric officials had contact with this young man but couldn t pass that threshold. and that threshold can be pretty tough. and i would think that conservatives would say yeah, we don t want people just somehow bad mouthing us or saying stuff about us and taking away either our guns or our liberty. jesse: i would think those people who evaluated him are probably feeling pretty bad about that right now. juan: i don t know. i think though on the guns part. i think back to columbine. i think to aurora. i think to what the president said today in light of what happened with the guard here in parkland, in every case, there was an armed guard. it didn t stop anything. greg: aurora was a gun-free zone. i think it s going to be hard politically for liberals to watch if donald trump outflanks them on this issue and actually comes up with the practical solutions that they claimed that they wanted but haven t put through. kimberly: bad news for kim jong un today, breaking north korea developments next. stay with us. across new york state, we re building the new new york. to grow your business with us in new york state, visit esd.ny.gov. to grow your business with us in new york state, and butch.aura. and tank. and tiny. and this is laura s mobile dog grooming palace. laura can clean up a retriever that rolled in foxtails, but she s not much on articles of organization. articles of what? 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[laughter] jesse: not as substantive as the gun ships encircling the peninsula. i think it s carrot and stick. dana: juan, one of the things interesting about the timing of the announcement is when vice president pence was headed to the olympics, he made some very strongly worded speeches about north korea and being tough. knew what happened at the opening ceremony. ivanka trump is going for the closing ceremony. the head military intel guy from north korea is also going to the closing ceremony. and so i think it was a strategic move to put these sanctions out today as she is landing in south korea. juan: well, i m not sure what s going on because, remember, they cancelled the meeting they thought pence was going to have a meeting. they cancelled that meeting at the last moment. now, there is no such prospect for ivanka trump. there is no such meeting scheduled. she will have, i think it s dipper or something with the south korean president. dana: yeah, tomorrow. juan: at his residence. the big event will be closing night for the closing ceremonies. you will have the two of them. ms. perino complained last time about vice president pence s seating tell us why. dana: i did. because i felt they put him in a bad position. i would have advocated for a different seating arrangement. juan: the question is now they can be seated. president trump is not there so we won t have to worry about the bald spot. dana: that s a small little thing. juan: they are not going to talk. the question is how it comes across. i think it s a lot of symbolism that she is there representing the president very much his number one child. dana: sanctions, kimberly we must have some idea the intelligence communities must know north korea hasn t tried to stop its nuclear program at all. kimberly: of course, right. they are getting realtime intelligence on this and updates as they should. they have to monitor it very closely. they are obviously receiving information showing they are not in compliance and therefore these kind of actions need to be taken. i like the fact that look we are being very well represented by ivanka trump. she is going there. and the president was obviously very proud of her to represent the country so i think that was nice. i m glad that he sent his daughter. i think that s symbolic. send a strong woman over there. represent the country. while at the same time putting the fist to north korea. dana: greg, had you a good point in the commercial break. it s a new cold war tactic. old tactic for the new cold war? greg: declaring war on companies not just the country we have to go after the chinese banks which is going to be an issue. if i wanted to walk across the studio, but each step each successive step became half the length of the previous step, i would never reach the wall. do you know that? that s what these sanctions are there is an endless spectrum of intensity. and the hope is that you never reach the wall, which is the war. so the point is you have we hear this is the biggest one yet. each one will always be the biggest one yet. jesse: i like my python analogy better. greg: i was mad you took the python one. that s what the snake poem was about. i m certain if we do go to war with north korea we will win because have you seen how they march? they can t get very far that way. dana: like they are taking half a step back. greg: very slow, right, juan? juan juan if i m living in south korea or japan i m thinking yeah you might not get hurt but what about else? greg: i know. i was trying to make a serious topic a little lighter. i failed, america. dana: we ll keep going on some serious topics. california is in president trump s crosshairs again. you will find out why next. try to get it while we can names in a tattoo or just a number on a hand e or make me feel like i m not really there. talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. that s it!girl! get it, woo, yeah! mom! my game s over. parents aren t perfect, but then they make us kraft mac & cheese and everything s good again. we the people. are defined by the things we share. and the ones we love. who never stop wondering what we ll do or where we ll go next. we the people who are better together than we are alone. are unstoppable. welcome to the entirely new expedition. do not give linzess to children less than six, and it should not be given to children six to less than eighteen. it may harm them. don t take linzess if you have a bowel blockage. get immediate help if you develop unusual or severe stomach pain, especially with bloody or black stools. the most common side effect is diarrhea, sometimes severe. if it s severe stop taking linzess and call your doctor right away. other side effects include gas, stomach-area pain, and swelling. ask your doctor if 90 days of linzess may be right for you. juan: welcome back. california just got another lashing from president trump for failing to help the feds cush illegacurb illegal immigra. now he has a new warning for the state. frankly, it s a disgrace. the sanctuary city situation. the protection of these horrible criminals. you know because you are working on it. and the protection of these horrible criminals in california and other places. but in california that if we ever pulled our ice out. if we ever said hey, let california alone. let them figure it out for themselves, in two months they would be begging for us to come back. they would be begging and you know what? i m thinking about doing it. juan: democrat dianne feinstein fired back saying the president s obsession with california is growing more outrageous by the day. his attacks are, quote patently false. kimberly? kimberly: yeah. i think it s kind of funny. is that bad? juan: no, no. kimberly: he gets upset about this. he doesn t like california and a lot of the politicians pon aggressive against him. they want to sue him about the wall and environmental reasons. they are upset because they feel they don t like his immigration policy. this is essentially the birthplace, the capital of sanctuary cities, right, with san francisco and the crimes that have happened. so they are a state that s very vocal and critical about the president, his policies. what he has been able to accomplish and what he is intending to accomplish like building the wall. so, because of that, they get his focus and attention. so he says things like that that perhaps not, you know, something that you would like to hear. but this is his personality. this is who he is. juan: wow, that was interesting. i mean you don t totally agree? i didn t say that i m explaining to you where is he coming from based on the relationship which is a little bit complicated and has not been quite receptive. it s not his state. juan: so should chicago and philly be on the watch for a trump pay back? it s possible. i don t think it s an empty threat. you could hear the anger in his voice. he is very frustrated with california. california and the trump administration on a collision course. we are going to get a crash course in federalism if this continues. they have gone after him as they said on environmental on illegal immigration. on judges. a travel ban a few times. kimberly: ninth circuit. jesse: makes for entertaining discourse. at the same time california has been mismanaged by liberals. they have been run by liberals for decades. they are broke. there is a very high crime rate. homeless population is out of control. a lot of depend dense on the government there all they have is weather, great food, and great land scaption. so to make california out to be this paragon of virtue. it s just not drew. someone else should come in and take charge there because i mean, if it keeps going the way it s going we might not have a lot of the beautiful parts of california anymore. juan: just a quick question. short on time. silicon valley, hollywood? jesse: amazing parts of california, juan, not everyone lives like hollywood and silicon valley. juan: pretty successful. their economy is pretty amazing to me. anyway, dana, jerry brown, current governor of california, signed a california values act that forbids local authorities from asking about immigration status. this was back in december so it would seem that the president is putting it to jerry brown. i m going to take away your ice agents or you undo that law. dana: right. if the president is spit ballinblowing ideas told by chif counsel actually sir you are not allowed to do that it doesn t necessarily matter from a communications standpoint he is trying to make his case. can constantly go back and said i would have taken them out of there. they deserves it i had to keep them. in becomes rhetorical device. it does send a strong message and other states would probably take a second look and wants to back away from the hot stove. juan: so we have two california people on this panel. one of them is greg gutfeld. greg: that s correct. thank you for noticing that every option on the table. why captains we use nukes? what s the problem with using nukes? and why can t we build a wall? you brought up california as a californian, it s depressing to me because i loved growing up there. it was the best probably the best time to live in california was during the 1970s. it was fantastic. it was this it was great. it was cheap. now it s not. i can t live there. but now. jesse: you can t afford it. kimberly: new york is really inexpensive. greg: california is in a crappy situation literally. san francisco i believe spent something like $30 million cleaning up homeless feces and syringes. kimberly: it wasn t like that when i was first lady. greg: ever watched that show called my 600-pound life? california is that person. it s too big to move. so everyone else is moving. everyone is leaving. silicon valley in hollywood. you are talking about the ultimate example in economic inequality. stockton right now is going to an act of universal based income because people they don t know how to deal with people not having jobs. meanwhile, silicon valley is the richest place on earth. something s wrong there, man. juan: all right. well, facebook friday with the man who contains clear liquids in his unicorn cup when the five returns. 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[laughter] but i think of nice things. i thought of right away because i have been super into them and missing them like when dana will give me little presents like my chocolate. dana: edwin marks chocolate. kimberly: salted caramels and for no reason and little things. dana: oh, yeah. greg: kindest thing kimberly told me yesterday the producers are scared of me. i went upstairs and asked my staff for the g.g. show. have you ever heard anybody saying in like that? one of the producers from the five described you as very difficult and used the d. word. jesse: woe. greg: diva. this is the whole side of this i had never experienced like me. dana: kindest thing. greg: am i difficult? jesse: you don t know you are difficult? kimberly: you don t know that you are. greg: i m the easiest person in the world. kimberly: you are totally insane. you are also very quirky. you also have a lot of issues with your, you know, gas astro intestinal high pro-con drhypochondria. greg: i just want to do things. jesse: you don t know you are difficult? greg: this is all going back to the fact i have two one more things i did them faster than you guys do your one. kimberly: you do it regularly and they are afraid to stand up to you to go hey. juan: can t fault him on self-awareness. greg: i m never going to forget. this it was very helpful to know what people think but all i m saying. kimberly: i m the thought 68 one by pointing out your greg: having never been to new york city. what is the one thing you would advise a first-time tourist to do. oh, that s so tempting. all right, kimberly. kimberly: here? greg: yes. kimberly: i think like going to broadway in new york is a very quintessential. greg: boo. i m saying boo but go ahead. kimberly: experience. greg: juan? juan: walk. this is a great city for walking. kimberly: the park. juan: walk among the billions. the towers. it s incredible place. and if you want to go down to the world trade center and look at the new world trade center is pretty attractive. times square awesome. go up town and to like to the tombs and so forth. this is amazing. go to the churches. man, i tell you what, there are architectural wonders to god in this city. greg: what about you, jesse? jesse: i would say come right outside of fox and wave to us as we are doing the show right there and then wait for dana and greg to leave and give them big hugs as they leave the studio. they love that they absolutely love that. greg: love big hugs especially if you are really big and crush our spines. dana? dana: i would say central park has off leash hours from 6:00 a.m. to 9:00 a.m. greg: what about the dogs? dana: go to the park and can you see all the fun that the dogs are having and have a nice walk around. kimberly: then you can wish you were a dog. dana: that s going to be in a guide book. can you come to me for the real stuff. greg: what i would advise first-time tourists to do hail a new york city cab. get in, go to the airport and get the hell out of here. go to some place sunny. and some place nice. don t come to new york. it s overrated. deign danel i love it. jesse: mayor gutfeld. greg: yes. one more thing is up next. milky way bar wherever you are real milk chocolate chewy caramel. that chevy silverado s are the most dependable, longest lasting full-size pickups on the road. which means that ford f-150s are not. 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through the b.s. i don t know if there s been any. wants to cut through the b.s., get the answers to the questions about how long this is going to go on and this is what was most interesting to me. one of my sources says to me, he s going to find out if we have to fight and where this leads. they seem to think that rudy giuliani will be the one to be able to do that where nobody else was able to do that before. in some interviews today he talked about his prior relationship with robert mueller. it s not clear to me how a prior relationship with mueller would impact an on going investigation. and he told that in his interview that they do have a prior relationship. i think i should remind people that john dab the lawyer that quit also had a prior relationship with mueller. giuliani did work with mueller after 9/11 of course. but i think that whole we have a relationship and we get along can be overdone because a lot of people worked with mueller over the years. he also said i think when she pushed him on a time frame he said a couple of weeks. does it seem to you that giuliani is going to be on the legal team for long-term? no it doesn t. there s some sense that giuliani is going to go in there and say okay put all your cards on the table here. let us know what s going on. let us know what we have to do and that the mueller team is going to answer all of his questions. do we know how this came out? who approached him? because obviously rudy giuliani is a friend of theth. spoke out when few people after the access hollywood would speak out rudy giuliani went out on all the programs that day. we know they re good friends. he recently visited for example. we don t know if it was discussed then. we do know at one point he was being discussed as attorney general, if you ll recall, secretary of state and i m wondering if he joins this legal team whether he could ever become the attorney general because he might be conflicted because he represented the president. but they re friends obviously and what we do know is that the president is reaching back to people he feels comfortable with at this point. right. thank you very much. turning now to the other looming investigation involving another of the president s lawyers that have been recording that the president is fixated on the criminal investigation of michael cohen. theth said he is not a target in that investigation. so what more do we know about what rosenstein said to the president? well, we know that this is the result of to some extent the president s anger about that michael cohen raid that occurred early part of last week. that set the president off. came over to the white house and the deputy attorney general and basically told the president in this meeting that was attended by other officials closer to the president that listen, he s not a target of the michael cohen portion of this investigation. now i m told by a source familiar with this conversation that this was not any kind of assurance about the overall mueller investigation and that is because the president received that kind of assurance in the past, but of course ander so anderson, any legal expert will tell you those kind of assurances only go so far. they only work for what has been uncovered at that stage of the investigation. but my understanding as we re talking to the source earlier today is that the deputy attorney general did tell the president just recently and we believe this meeting happened late last week that he is not a target of that michael cohen investigation. do we have any information about how the president reacted to that or has subsequently reacted? well, we know he continues to be unnerved by the michael cohen probe. obviously michael cohen is a long friend of the president. has been his attorney for a long time. has been described piano others as a fixer for the president. and my colleague was reporting earlier today that the president has been consumed by this and i am also hearing that from other sources that this is something that he fixates on almost every day but anderson i will tell you i did talk to a source familiar with this, these conversations that go on inside the white house about this and this source said earlier today that the legal team with the president at this point is not concerned that michael cohen is going to turn against the president and start singing like a canary. one of the phrases we have been hearing this week. at this point they expect michael cohen to do what he has to do in this investigation but he s not going to be a cooperating witness against the president. of course that s how they view things right now. they can t see into the future and know what is the unknown but they re trying to convey that they don t think that should be a concern at this point but the president from what we re told is still very, very upset and furious that that probe has been washed and that those took place. the question is at this point what happens in the future to michael cohen? what kind of information is uncovered? what kind of case could be brought against him and could that case, perhaps, convince michael cohen to become a cooperating witness against the president. people are not concerned that s not going to happen at this point. thank you. first of all, this notion of rudy giuliani being able to come in in the short-term and fix this, essentially get this to come to a conclusion in a couple of weeks. what do you make of that idea? pretty arrogant to believe he would be in a position to do so. even if he has a personal relationship with mueller this is business and come pait s key. the president of the united states has not had competent council that can expedite it. it s slow because it has to be thorough and although most people are used to the idea of having immediate gratification in the news and perhaps a television program and law and order and an hour and have it wrapped up but when it comes to federal prosecution of this magnitude and investigation of this magnitude it will take tile to flush out all the details. so come in and say let me expedite this process that i can feel like i m not a target is an odd thing to think. david, certainly understanding why the president s team would want to do that. would you think giuliani is the person that can do that? sure. he s not only a close friend and confidant of the president but an incredibly capable individual in his own right. former prosecutor and mayor and he has a force of personality. a personal relationship with director mueller and i think he s going to try to nudge this along to a certain extent. but is an investigation like this something that can be negotiated away? i don t know if it s negotiated away. you can try to cut through the weeds here a little bit. whether the president is going to answer written interrogatories, whether he s going to testify, what that s going to look like, that can be expedited by having somebody with a force of personality like mayor giuliani on the team. they have been discussing this for months and they were already, the legal team, that morning of the raid on cohen s office was all ready to make a proposal to mueller about the president testifying and then there was the raid of his office and home et cetera and they pulled back. they had a meeting and they pulled back so they re already at a point now where things were moving along. and that point that may have changed dramatically, right? that morning things may have changed and mayor giuliani may have been brought in to piece it together again. there s whether or not the president will testify willingly and by the way it s not up to him ultimately. they could always subpoena him. which he could fight. he could fight. he could plead the fifth. they could try to get him to compel him. no president has ever been attempted to be compelled or held in contempt for that reason. he has that option but the idea of expediting the overall investigation to a conclusion is a very separate issue. one is about details. there s a political backdrop to this. there s upcoming elections this fall that are very important and director mueller is very sensitive to that. just like this afternoon we heard director comey, he s not political but he s political and director mueller doesn t want this hanging over as a cloud over the elections so that there s a reason that anybody can blame what happens in the fall on him. a lot of people looking into the mueller investigation, if robert mueller is trying to figure out intent. if they re looking at obstruction of justice, intent is critical in a lot of the president s actions and for that you would think they would have to actually interview the president. that s their point i think. they would like to interview him. the point from the white house is we have given you over a million documents from everybody that s talked to the president and that the president of course keeps no notes and does no e-mails. so you have all of this information. the lawyers, i don t think, muell mueller s team, i don t think they re going to buy that but they do understand there s different rules for a president than there are for you and me. does it make sense that rosenstein would say to the president, we think at the end of last week, that he is not t you know, the subject of a criminal investigation in terms of the cohen raid. it s possible. it s possible and the reason i say that is because it hasn t actually changed the ultimate objective. he could become a target at any time. all it takes is a piece of evidence to do so. i m not saying that s going to be the case here but they have been investigating michael cohen specifically for a number of months. so it s good news for the president. it s good news for the president. if that is an accurate report then it tells you that at this point in the investigation after months of reading his e-mails and stuff it s a great sign for the president of the united states. there s still so much unknown about why they re after him. what they re investigating. back to anderson s point about the obstruction charge. you re talking about the president s man here if that s what they re hanging their hat on i think they should move on. on the cohen thing, what i don t understand, i m not a lawyer, is why would rosenstein volunteer that to the president. he was not asked? is it to save his job? that s a possibility? a requirement. or is it something that he would do because he knew that the president was concerned about it and he shouldn t be. i m not going to say he s a guy that s going to get rolled here. he s a person who is a great character, high integrity. so why would you do it? i don t know. i think politics seeps into every phase of our government now. the three separate branches are becoming, you know, the judiciary used to be kind of independent. we hope it remains that way but the executive branch and investigative functions now seem to be points higher lliticized. they said they re not going to follow along with the president s immigration pledge. that s number one but number two there may be a nonclinical reason here and it may be that because there was a department of justice rule and discussion about guidelines about searching an attorney s office, maybe he was trying to explain to him that he was not after him as a target because he is the client of this person, which would have raised questions about the attorney-client privilege being at issue here. perhaps he is simply telling him this does not implicate or make your attorney client privilege any less because we re not after him about what concerns you. that may be a nonpolitical way to try to say this is not an issue for you. and separate from the mueller investigation. separate. if he sign aued off on the r. and perhaps he felt the need to explain that to a president that s very upset about it. as you said good news for theth, it s still, if i was the president i would still be concerned if my attorney that allegedly only had three clients, one of those clients saying i was never a client. the other one seemed to have a short-term need for a hush agreement, the president is his longest term client. you know, if i had that relationship with a friend or attorney who was under investigation i would still be nervous. and the key here is what you said, friend or attorney. because what he was to donald trump is going to be key in what s going to make him nervous. is michael cohen somebody that works for him and is an attorney or somebody that happens to have a law degree. that does not attach the attorney-client privilege. if most of their interactions were about business or not confidential or somebody else in the room or things that did not attach to privilege then you re asking the same question that president trump is probably asking, were you acting as my friend or my lawyer. if it was my friend i have a lot of information now that could be disclosed and making me or people a member of the trump organization very vulnerable. i didn t mean to interrupt you but i m sure that most of those conversations probably weaved in and out of privilege and nonprivilege. recorded conversations with other people, with third parties, who knows what is in those conversations. reasons for the president to be concerned. the president came out on air force one and said michael cohen is my attorney. talk to my attorney. so that s sort of pretty cut and dry. thank you very much. up next, breaking news on the new pecking order in the west wing of the white house. two new senior staffers getting the green light to bypass chief of staff john kelly and the justice department gives congress memos written by fired fbi director james comey about his most controversial conversations with president trump. and that more. the full interview coming up in this hour. this is what getting your car serviced at lincoln looks like. complementary pickup and delivery servicing now comes with every new lincoln. i won. giving you, the luxury of time. that s the lincoln way. i just need some rest. i m just worried about the house. and taking care of the boys. 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well, that s the question. what does it do to his standing in the west wing? because whenever he became chief of staff everyone was reporting directly to him including ivanka trump and jared kushner and now we re seeing the change and they re reporting that john kelly is what aids see as a downward slide in the west wing because he used to hold staff meetings three times a week. now he only does them once a week. he used to travel with the president on every trip and now he does not do that and he used to have a toe in every decision but we re seeing people be able to overrule john kelly by getting rid of staffers like the deputy national security adviser who john kelly wanted to keep in the administration but bolton has dismissed him. it does raise a lot of questions about how much longer john kelly will be in this administration. fascinating. another development tonight the justice department has handed over to congress the james comey memos. they detail conversations in the months before he was fired. our justice reporter joins us now with more. now that they have been sent to capitol hill, we re waiting to see if members of congress released them can you explain why they re demanding these documents? sure. the memos provide an incredible glimpse into james comey s mind set leading up to his firing back last year and many of these issues are in dispute. for instance the loyalty pledge and allegation that president trump asked him to essentially let go of the investigation into former national security adviser michael flynn. now members of congress had seen some of the memos in redacted form but recently demanded they be unclassified and unredacted in full. the justice department official, steven boyd in charge of legislative affairs explains it this way. in light of the unusual events occurring since the previous limited disclosure the department has consulted the relevant parties and concluded that the release of the memorandum to congress at this time would not adversely impact any on going investigation or other confidentiality interests of the executive branch but he goes on to explain, anderson, this is an unusual move. did the special council s office object at all to the doj releasing it? no, in fact, i m told according to a source familiar that the justice department in fact consulted with the special council s office and mueller did not have any objection which is is interesting considering earlier this year cnn and other news outlets tried to sue in court to get access to the comey memos and a federal judge blocked it saying they were part of the on going investigation at mueller s request. thank you very much. jake tapper asked comey what he thought about congress seeing his memos. you ll hear what he said coming up later this hour. next the attempt by the president s supporters to smear mueller and james comey reaches an absurd place. we re keeping him honest, ahead. surpri hold up. hold up. we got a laggy video call here. you need verizon, the best network for streaming. trade ya. okay, people, that s a reset. let s take it back from surpri (avo) get $300 off the samsung galaxy s9+. because unlimited is only as good as the network it s on. for the big things in life, we tend to start small. less of this. cut back on that. but if it feels like a lot of effort for a little gain, change that. start with something that makes a big difference. .your student loans. refinancing with sofi could save you $30,000. it s an easier way to reach your life goal sooner. we ve helped over 195,000 people. we want to help you too. find out how much you can save in just two minutes at sofi.com/save. in just two minutes don t juggle your home life and work life without it. don t skip that office meeting for a board meeting without it. don t keep it real. keep it going. or simply keep it in the family without it. and don t turn that business trip, into an overdue family trip without it. the more you live between life and business, the more you need someone at your back. the powerful backing of american express. don t live life without it. with exciting new dishes like lobdueling lobster tails.r. and lobster truffle mac & cheese. classics like lobster lover s dream are here too. so enjoy these 10 lobsterlicious dishes now. because lobsterfest ends april 22nd. bombing at the time we had a terrorist attack in boston. this was a man that failed time and time and time again to protect american citizens. james comey was not the head of the fbi at the time of the boston marathon bombing. the bombing was in april. he didn t become fbi director until september. comey wasn t even in the fbi at the time. he was a private citizen. andrea mitchell the next day. i want to ask you about something you said on fox yesterday. you said jim comey failed to protect americans during the boston marathon since he was fbi director. the fact is he was not fbi director for another five months. as you know, jim comey served as the head of the boston office of the fbi at a period of time that i think mr. mueller served as the u. s. attorney in the state of massachusetts. but not during the boston marathon. not during the boston marathon but jim comey was responsible, i belief and we can go back and check for the whitey bulger disaster. he was the head of fbi whitey bulger had nothing to do with the boston bombing. there was no admission that he said something untrue. no apology. just moving along and decided to bring in the boston crime boss whitey bulger that had nothing to do with the boston bombing. he is attempting to grab at another straw saying comey was the head of the boston office at the time of the case. he was never the head of the boston fbi office. there s no record of him working in that office at all. now you might wonder where did whitey bulger come into all of this? why are we even talking about him? seems as though this may have started with this on a radio show earlier this month. not about comey but about special council robert mueller. i don t think he cares whether he hurts democrats or republicans but he s partisan. east a zealot. he kept people in prison for many years in order to protect the cover on whitey bulger as an fbi informer. two of them died in prison. two others along with the families of the dead men sued the government for $100 million. the now retired federal judge that presided over the case writes in the new york times i can say that mr. mueller who worked in the united states attorney s office in boston from 1982 to 1988 including a brief stint as the acting head of the office had no involvement in that case. he was never even mentioned. as the judge goes on to point out a former mayor of springfield massachusetts that served on the massachusetts parole board in the 1980s saw a letter from mueller opposing the release of one of the prisoners but no such letter has ever been found something the boston globe reveals and afterwards he never repeated the allegation but further investigation seems warranted. by then the genie was out of the bottle and the president s supporters took it and ran with it. you know what that means, enter sean hannity. robert mueller was the u.s. attorney in charge while these men were rotting in prison. while certain agents in the fbi under mueller covered up the truth. four men went to jail. he was mueller was involved in the case. we re going to go to crime families. let s look at the mueller crime family during mueller s time as a federal prosecutor in boston, four men wrongfully imprisoned for decades, framed by an fbi informant and notorious ganger whitey bulger while he looked the other way. when you re not interested in facts you can blame folks for anything. but they might do a better job of checking their dates and getting their story straight. joining me is shelly murphy. co-author of whitey bulger, america s most wanted gangster and the manhunt that brought him to justice. does it make sense to you that he is spreading this idea that jim comey was head of the fbi at the time of the boston bombing? yeah, i mean, it s just sirly not true. the boston marathon bombings happened before comey became director of the fbi. so to try to connect comey to the marathon bombings is just simply not true. and the mueller part of this, i mean, the whitey bulger saga is complicated. can you explain to people about it why this allegation is just without merit? well, you know whitey bulger was one of the most notorious organized crime figures from this area. he was able to get away with murders for years because he was an fbi informant but from 1975 to 1990. he fled boston just before 95, before his indictment. he was on the run for more than 16 years and there s just nothing in this long saga that connects mueller to white whitey bulger. mueller was in the u.s. attorney s office in boston from 1982 to 1988 but he did not prosecute organized crime cases. he was an informant for the fbi and there were cases that the fbi was building against the new england mafia at the time but they were under a different prosecutorial unit and i also might add that the whitey bulger story is a never ending saga in boston. congressional hearings, wrongful death suits, criminal trials, numerous hearings dating all the way back to the late 90s. i ve covered all of them and not once has mueller s name surfaced in connection with those. and the four people that were in prison for all of that time, two of them who died there, were able to finally sue and get money back once they were out. but mueller had, as far as you know, as far as your reporting is and the judge in the case said this as well, mueller had nothing to do with that either? no, and that s a case that i covered also. i went back and looked through all the old files and that was a terrible case. you had four men, wrongfully convicted in this 1965 slaying. two of them died in prison. the other two spent more than 30 years in prison and it was when the whitey bulger saga erupted. when it was revealed that he had a corrupt relationship with the fbi that there were these there was an investigation launched and it was a justice department task force in 2000 that found these old documents, hidden documents in the fbi files that indicated that these guys had been framed for a murder that they didn t commit. and that is how this case sort of erupted. so back in the 80s when mueller was in the u.s. attorney s office in boston and there were people that were writing letters, prosecutors, fbi agents, urging the state parole board not to commute the sentences of these guys but we were unable to find any letters that mueller wrote. you know, asking that they be released but i think also you need to understand that at that point in time, some of the prosecutors that were writing letters there s no evidence that they knew that these men were innocent. so, you know, that really, you know, the story sort of evolved years later. the idea that comey had any involvement with the boston fbi office and with whitey bulger again is just not true. well that is just i can t imagine where that came from. it sort of seems to have been pulled out of thin air because comey never worked in the fbi s boston office and i can t understand why somebody would where this could even have come from. it s nonsense frankly. i appreciate your time and your reporting. thank you for being with us. thank you, bye. up next an inspector general sends it s report to federal prosecutors for potential criminal charges. what his legal team is saying about that when we continue. and the safey for most parallel parallel parking job goes to. 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so his attorney came out with a statement to this saying although we believe the referral is unjustified the standard for a referral is very low. we already met with staff members from the u.s. attorney s office. we re confident that unless there s inappropriate pressure from high levels of the administration the u.s. attorney s office will conclude that it should decline to prosecute. as you know, anderson, mccabe and his team said all along that they feel like mccabe has been unfairly targeted because he s the key witness in the comey obstruction of justice probe and they believe as mccabe himself said that he didn t do anything wrong and again just to reiterate just because there s a criminal referral that doesn t mean that there will be criminal charges at the end of this. comey weighed in on this referral in that interview with jake tapper. what did he say? he did. it s interesting because james comey was the one that brought andy mccabe on board as his deputy director. they had a close working relationship and now months later after this there s this i.g. report saying his deputy mislead investigators. here s what he told jake about that. how do you feel about your former deputy, according to the inspector general lying? lying to you. lying to investigators. for a leak that the inspector general said was only motivated to preserve his own reputation having nothing to do with the fbi and the public s right to know. conflicted. i like hm as a person. even good people do things they shouldn t do. i read the report. i m not the decision maker in the case. it s accountability mechanisms working and they should work because it s not acceptable in the fbi or the justice department for people to lack candor. it s something that we take really seriously. one of the exampled in the report is that mccabe claimed that he told james comey, his boss that he was going to authorize a disclosure, that he had authorized a disclosure of information to a wall street journal reporter about the clinton foundation. comey claimed that wasn t the case. mccabe never told him that. so that was one of the four examples there. president trump wbr id= wbr26942 /> no surprised here weighed in on all of this tweeting today anderson, james comey just threw andrew mccabe /b> under the bus. it s a disaster for both of them. getting wbr-id= wbr27044 /> a little, lot of their own medicine. so you can interpret that tweet how you want. thank you very much. more breaking news tonight, the president will not be attending the funeral of former first lady barbara bush. first lady melania trump will attend the memorial service on behalf of the first family to avoid disruptions of added security and out of respect for the bush family and those attending the service president trump will not attend. we asked what out of respect to the family. we know four former presidents would be there. the white house did not give a clarification. up next you ll see the full interview with jim comey. here s some of what he had to say about andrew mccabe. given that the i.g. s report has interactions it had with me and other senior executives i could be a witness. he had a lot more to say. the full interview coming up. vo: these neighbors are starting right. miracle-gro guarantees results with rich potting mix and essential plant food for three times the blooms. success is sweet. miracle-gro. three times the beauty. one powerful guarantee. join t-mobile and the whole family can stay connected with new iphones. which is great. .unless your parents thought you were studying. aren t exams this week? 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potentially. i could well be a witness. you express a lot of horror in the book when public officials and even celebrities lie to investigators whether martha stewart. yeah. so i would assume that you would be upset at andrew mccabe. i haven t heard you criticize him the same way you criticize others. so far it s the accountability of the mechanisms working because it s a department committed to the truth. so it s working. i don t know whether there s a criminal referral or what will happen but that s part of accountability and examination of what the consequences will be. for a leak that the inspector general said was only motivated to preserve his own reputation having nothing to do with the fbi or the public s right to know. conflicted. i like him very much as a person but sometimes even good people do things they shouldn t do. have read the report. i m not the judge in the case. i m not the discipline decision maker in the case. it is accountability mechanisms working and they should work because it s not acceptable in the fbi or the justice department for people to lack candor. it s something that we take really seriously. the justice department is also expected today to begin the process of letting congress see your memos detailing your interactions with president trump. is that the right decision to let congress see them. i don t know. i don t know what considerations the department has taken into account. it s fine by me. you don t care? i don t care. i don t have any views on it. i ll totally fine with transparency. i have tried to be transparent throughout this and i think what folks will see if they get to see the memos is i have been consistent since the very beginning right after my encounters with president trump and i m consistent but i don t know how many of that group. one of them is of the classified one obviously from when you told president trump in trump tower about what was in that two-page annex of the steele dossier. what were the other classified ones be about? well, i can t answer that if they re classified. you can t say the subject of them? terrorism. a number of conversations i had related to our investigative responsibilities and that i considered classified at the time. if i go beyond that i m breaking the seal on them. we are just learning that bloomberg news is reporting that rod rosenstein said he is not a target of the russia probe. that the point in the investigation what might that mean telling the president he s not a target? i don t know what it means. it s a fairly standard part of any investigation. trying to decide whether a person you re encountering is a witness, subject or target. target is someone on whom the investigation, grand jury has evidence sufficient to charge. witness is nothing to do with the exposure and i don t know the context of the deputy attorney general did that but that s the general framework. the president obviously had a lot of words in response to you. he called you a liar and a leaker. our reporting say that is a republican sneaking with the president says that the feels he weathered your book tour. has he come out unscathed? i have no idea. it s not about the president. i hope to be part of a conversation. president trump figures in that part of the stories i m trying to tell to illustrate ethical leadership. it is not about him. i haven t thought about it in terms of whether he is weathering it or not weathering it. i read the book. it is about your time as a u.s. attorney, your childhood and a lot in there about president trump, especially in terms of leadership and examples of how not to be a leader and an example of someone that s a bully and you talk throughout the book about how you hate bullies. i couldn t write about ethical leadership without the it is an important part of the book and not a book about donald trump and i hope very much it s useful long into the future beyond trump presidency. you call him morally unfit and the presidency a forest fire. do you think the nation would be better off if hillary clinton had won? i can t answer that. that s something that hypothetical is too hard to try to go back in time and it s hard to imagine how you don t think the nation is better off if hillary clinton had won. i don t think about it in about it in those terms, jake. the question is adhering to our values? i think the first thing to do is not get numb to it. calling for the jailing of private citizens, don t shrug. that is not okay or normal. the it s interesting that you won t go as far as to say that hillary clinton would be the nation would be better off if hillary were president because you have called for the nation to respond to the challenge of trump in your view by voting. presumably by voting against what he represents. is that not a fair interpretation? i actually think of as maybe it s the same thing but i think of it in terms of voting for something else which is the core values of this country which are more important than any policy dispute. i don t care whether people find in it a republican or democrat or neither. it is important that the leaders reflect the values because that s all we are. so you have spent decades building a reputation for being evidence based, for being nonpartisan. the fbi is an organization that is supposed to be evidence based and nonpartisan. do you worry that by painting this stark portrait of president trump and suggesting that the american people should vote for something other than the lack of values that he represents in your construct that you are sullying both the brand of comey and the brand of the fbi? yeah, i don t think so. i certainly hope not. because i m not criticizing president trump because he s a republican or because he has a certain view on taxes or immigration or anything else. i m criticizing him on the grounds of values which is at the center of the fbi and something that should be the center of all of our evaluations of our leaders so i get that it s relevant to politics but i see it as something actually more important than partisan politics something you said to me in one of the interviews stood out. quote, if you ve been investigating something for a year and you don t have a general intelligence of where it will end up you should be fired. you wrote something similar in the book. exonerating hillary clinton of criminal behavior. before you had even interviewed her. let s apply that same standard to the mueller investigation. you oversaw the russia investigation for almost ten months. did you, do you have a general sense of how that investigation is going to end up? in some respects i did at the time but not completely. i suspect that the team that s investigating it now has a general sense. i have no idea what that is but again it s a general feeling on the current course and speed to end up in this direction or that direction. where did you think it was going to end up? did you think it would end up with people around president trump being found guilty of conspireing, aiding and abetting with russians? i can t say. i ve left it out of the book for reasons that should be obvious. i can t talk about classified information or sensitive investigative details so i m not going to say. but your sense of where the investigation was headed is not classified. it is just your impression. obviously, the investigation continued since then. why won t you say? people want to know. you have left the impression that there s something there in your interviews. you have said when asked do the russians have something on president trump?
he s said the word spy 17 times since last friday. adam schiff who was at the second meeting said he heard no evidence of a spy in the campaign today. there is no evidence to support any allegation that the fbi or any intelligence agency placed a spy in the trump campaign or otherwise failed to follow appropriate procedures and protocols. well, cnn s chief political correspondent dana bash joins us now. she s got new reporting on rudy giuliani s takes on the briefings today. i know you talked to giuliani about emmitt flood and how he ended up in the briefings. what did he say? that s right. i talked to him a couple of times tonight before coming on. i did ask him if emmitt went to these meetings at the behest of the president or maybe under orders of the president? he says he hasn t told him the answer is yes, but rudy giuliani tells me he assumes that was the reason why flood went, because the president, his client, and the person who emmitt flood now works for inside the white house wanted him to be there. now, anderson, you mentioned the context of this, of why this is even a story. in the beginning but i can tell you as someone who s covered capitol hill for many, many years, the protocol for most if not all so-called gang of eight meetings, when the intelligence community or the law enforcement community is briefing the top intelligence lawmakers and leadership about issues like this, the white house isn t there. and that s even under the most benign circumstances. this adds a layer of the fact that the white house, meaning the president, is part of the investigation that they re talking about, which makes it so unbelievably unprecedented. right, the idea that the president or what rudy giuliani believes, that the president would have told the presidential attorney, flood, to go along with john kelly and address both investigation of the facts, which is what gang of eight investigations is supposed to be. and this is too rich. i mean if you look at the underlying allegation here, that the fbi sent someone into a scenario in order to gather information inappropriately, i think that s what you saw today. like when you take a conflicted party like the president s lawyer who was hired to refute these allegations of russian collusion, he s obviously going to report back. i spent the better part of today giving the white house the benefit of the doubt. i described this as a perception problem. they don t understand this just looks bad to send someone in. but rudy giuliani to come out and say this is strategy, we re going to learn what he said and incorporate that into the investigation that s the definition of inappropriateness. flood was brought in for a possible impeachment fight was there for at least the beginning of the briefing today as far as we know. look, we ve seen so many examples of the norms being shattered, and this is a pretty explosive example, i think. and the reason is because, as i said, this isn t just about kind of the protocols which were not followed in that they had to fight, they the democrats, and even some republicans had to fight for the democratic leaders and the lead democrats from the intelligence committees even to be briefed in the first place. this time yesterday we rurnt sure that was going to happen. then when it happened the fact that it included somebody from the white house, whether or not he gave a statement at the top or he sat for the briefing it s sort of not even relevant. it is unbelievably, really unprecedented. and this is again not just in covering it, this is from talking from people who have been involved in these kinds of briefings for years who have said they ve never seen anything like it. jeff, i also don t understand the rationale they re giving that he was there to express the president s desire for transparency. that just seems also at this late stage in the investigation, they know what the president s position in transparency is. this investigation has been going on a long time. this looks what rudy giuliani said it was, which was an information gathering and advocacy mission by the president s chief of staff and his lawyer about something, a factual matter that congress is looking into. but that s not where they re supposed to be. it s a congressional investigation, and it is as dana keeps pointing out, the gang of eight, four democrats, four republicans, four from the house, four from the senate. it s a formal process that is meant to be neutral in its political orientation. and to have the president s lawyer in there is just wildly inappropriate. jeff, what impact do you think it has on chris ray of the fbi, dana coats, the fbi. for any officer of the government who s charged with running a human source their job is going to become harder to help convince someone to come to their side. you likely went into that meeting with eight members of congress who again are known to be a little loose lipped, knowing that anything you said in that meeting could make it to the air waves. that s an unusual place to be in. but i think it s interesting when you look at what may have happened. i think it s safe to assume there wasn t some giant revelation of impropriety on the part of the fbi. and i think the reason we know that is we didn t see chairman nunes tripping over the microphones racing to his colleagues to tell us what he learned. and all of this is from adam schiff so far. right, and that s not much except that he indicated that there was nothing to suggest that there were nefarious spies as the president and his aides are suggesting. and nunlz and gowdy reportedly didn t see the documents, they wanted, right? right. and that s a whole other issue, that this is not over politically when it comes to the pre- s allies on capitol hill. everybody from mark meadows to others who kind of started the ball rolling demanding from the doj that they get to see information about this, they weren t satisfied with the briefings that were set up in the first place. so you re right, the fact that they seem to have gotten even less access than they thought that they would means that the sort of drum beat is going to continue from capitol hill. dana s making an important point here because this conflict as she says is not resolved between the house republicans in the white house on one side and the justice department on the other is perhaps an attempt to force rod rosenstein to resign in protest or to fire him, which is something that the white house has been itching to do for a long time. so the fact that this crisis isn t over is very significant. thanks to everybody. a lot more ahead including more breaking news. we re learning not only did the president turn down a meeting with kim jong-un, his team also said no back enjanuary to robert mueller. more details on that. also north korea s reaction after the plug is pulled on the summit. we re live in north korea ahead. allergies with sinus congestion and pressure? 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early to mid-january, and it was a very different time from the time dana bash was talking about just earlier. because it was a time when the president s legal team actually wanted to get this all over with and have the president sit down. so there was a meeting with mueller. he suggested let s get the president on january 27th and laid out 16 subjects, and the president s legal team listened to it. they met among themselves later on, and they were even thinking oh, maybe we can have this at kac camp david, might be a good place, we could do this on a saturday. and then after thinking about it, and there was some disagreement among the president s lawyers. but the lead of the president s team john dowd on january 29th sent mueller a letter, a 20-page letter which one source says the president read and approved saying there s no way we are going to do this both for constitutional issues, and we believe that you have all the information that you need from the millions of documents that we ve handed over to you. and right around that time the president was actually sounding sort of enthusiastic about talking to special counsel. he was. on january 24th when reporters asked him, and here s the quote, i m looking forward to it actually. that he would have liked to have an interview, but and i think he probably was telling the truth at at that time. i think after the michael cohen i ve been told the president said, no way, i m not going to do it. and you ve seen them ratcheting up their attack on mueller and his team and the investigators since that point. i also understand you have reporting about meetings between the president s legal team and mueller that happened two months later in march. right. so, you know, after this happened in january there was kind of a lull. because the mueller team and the trump team were on very different places. so they had a meeting on march 5th and another one on march 12th. but at the march 5th meeting, i m told by a source, mueller reiterated that he needed to see the president, he needed to talk to the president because he needed to know his intent before making certain decisions in his presidency. and of course we know what that refers to, is the firing of james comey. and at this point mueller has not changed his mind, and the trump team remains pretty entrenched about not having the president testify as you keep hearing publicly from giuliani. gloria, thanks very much. more legal aid now. john dean. he has seen these things from the inside. he was white house counsel to president nixon. what does it say the president was even one time closer to sitting down with robert mueller? not only his legal team in terms of the personnel has changed and been a revolving door but the strategy has changed. so at one point with a different set of players it sounds like they were negotiating and they were perhaps had one set of constitutional concerns and now maybe there s a different set of constitutional concerns. so the legal strategy, the legal analysis and then the actual approach in dealing with the special counsel s office just constantly seems influx. and john, certainly things are not what they were back in january to say the least. a lot has happened since then including the raid on michael cohen s office. what do you think the odds are of the president sitting down to an interview without a fight at this point? i think there will be a fight. i don t think its his option either, anderson. i think what we re witnessing is very trumpian. where he is on all sides and all moods at different times and different stages of his thinking. and i think it s only going to be resolved as it has been with other presidents who had to appear, the threat of the subpoena will bring him to a decision very quickly. and i m not sure he can win in court. i think indeed the law favors the special counsel and the supreme court. i looked at the number of precedent setting instances where ken starr went to the supreme court and how quickly he got those rulings, for example, on the protective privilege for secret service testifying. he broke that privilege and did it very quickly. so these things can happen faster rather than slow. i wonder what you think about that, because the argument the president s legal team is making is because they believe mueller is following the justice department guidelines and that a sitting president can t be indicted, that the president can t be subpoenaed for something which is an unindictable offense. there is no specific case on point about whether or not a sitting president has to appear before a grand jury to give oral testimony. so there s document cases, but there s not something on the specific issue. so it could be litigated. it seems like the president s team is leaning towards trying to drag this out and leaning towards perhaps forcing the special counsel s office to make that decision to serve a subpoena and fight it out in court. the irony is that the longer they drag this out, they increase the chances that the president will do more things that could add to the obstruction case. so the longer this drags out he could fire more people. he could sort of verbally or through twitter intimidate witnesses. he could do other things in terms of his coordination with congress, trying to unearth things about the investigation that have the tendency to disrupt it. so there is actually i think a jeopardy in them dragging this out as well. john, cnn reported this week that the president s legal team, they re trying to narrow the scope on any possible interview to russia related matters. no questions on possible obstruction of justice. can you see any possible situation in which the special counsel agrees to that? it s an interesting argument that they would have no ability to restrict what happened before he became president and then have an ability to restrict under an executive privilege theory once he became president. it s never been litigated as we ve just noted. i don t think it ll play either. i think that once they get it in there they re not going to agree to the questions. we ve seen the breadth of the proposed topics they want to discuss, as gloria s reporting showed earlier today. and they re all over it, and trump is not going to be able to control that. john dean, just curious given that you lived through watergate, what do you make of the president s efforts to tag this using the term spygate clearly having a reference towards watergate and basically saying if it s true it s the biggest political story ever. well, it seems he s taken got his hands on the fog machine that rudy giuliani has been handling. and he s just trying to put smoke out there, and it s not going to hold up. i think the briefing today pretty well showed this was standard operating procedure by the fbi, and if anything the fbi was protecting him and not spying on him but rather being cautious in how they proceeded, trying to see if these people even knew they were dealing with potential russian infiltration of some kind. so the spyigate doesn t work for me at all. coming up north korea has just reacted to the president calling off the summit with kim jong-un. there s been a lot of question marks and anxiety what they might say given the stakes. a rare live report from inside north korea as well. how do you win at business? stay at laquinta. where we re changing with contemporary make-overs. then, use the ultimate power handshake, the upper hander with a double palm grab. who has the upper hand now? start winning today. book now at lq.com. raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens brown paper packages tied up with strings these are a few of my favorite things these are a few of my favorite things and we got to know the friends of our friends.r the friends. and we found others just like us. and just like that we felt a little less alone. but then something happened. we 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went unanswered. so that was a big red flag also came at a time when north korea had a change in tone. they released a statement last week for criticizing the u.s. asking korea to disarm and pull out of the summit. and then you had a statement from kim last night from north korea calling the vice president a political dummy and threatening nuclear war. so you had all of that on top of the fact that kim jong-un had been a little bit skittish, showing some skittishness about flying to singapore. there was still a big distance on certain issue. so there was growing skepticism up until this point. but it really all culminated with that statement from north korea which led to this letter the president sent to kim jong-un today. i m told that the administration had been expecting a response from north korea through national security channels. they knew there would be a response to mike pence s statements he made on fox news talking about the libya model. but when they received that statement from north korea threatening nuclear war, that is when the president met with his national security team, and the prevailing option on the table last night was just pull out of the summit. the president wanted to sleep on it, and that letter was sent this morning. while the president did threaten military action this morning, he did leave it open for the summit to happen. that s right. in a letter he sent to kim jong-un on one hand he s boasting about the military prowess in the united states, and on the other hand he s inviting kim jong-un to call him or write to him. the president has signaled that he still wants this summit to happen even if it doesn t happen on june 12th as originally planned. i white house officials today what would it take for the summit to be back on track, and basically said the administration would need to see the opposite of what it has seen from north korea this past week for it to happen. even as the summit was being called off north korea was taking steps to scale back its nuclear program, destroying nuclear test sites. will ripply joins us now from north korea. first of all, when the news broke that president trump was pulling out of the summit you were actually the one to break the news to north korean officials there. how did they react? how did that play out? reporter: we were on the train riding back from the nuclear test site, and it was late at night. we were actually getting ready to go to bed when i got the phone call. and look, it was incredibly awkward and uncomfortable. they didn t give me a response but they immediately got up and got on the phone and i assume were relaying the message up to the office of kim jong-un. i assumed we were the first ones to tell the message to the north koreans. when they came out with this more measured diplomatic response it shows the north koreans still want these talks to move forward despite some of the rhetoric in recent days. what were you able to see today? reporter: we were on the ground for more than nine hours. it was surprising. it took us more than 15 hours to get there, and they showed us each of the tunnels north korea has used to give up six nuclear tests. they opened up the doors. we could see they were rigged with explosives as far as the eye could see. then we moved up to the ravine and watched them blow up the tunnels one by one. it was pretty dramatic images, but it was hard to know exactly what we were seeing, like how deep the explosions went, for example. there s no way, i guess, to verify the north korean claims that the tunnels are permanently unusable. reporter: that s right. because we didn t have any nuclear weapons experts in the group. they were not invited in. it was only journalists. and north koreans said, look, you ve seen it with your own eyes. and our point was we saw explosions, but we don t know how it looks. could bulldozers go in and open it up tomorrow or is it really permanently there is some skepticism from people because experts weren t invited it was really this step towards denuclearization with the north korea s claim it was. but for them to blow it up and then a couple minutes latthe sut was canceled, it was really a surreal moment. much more ahead on this. we re going to talk about the north korean response to the president s letter and what could happen next. sometimes a day at the ballpark is more than just a day at the ballpark. 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look, it s really interesting because those are the very words that the north korean vice minister who i met back in 2008 over the same kind of issue, he used those words. and he said those words were in response to as he called it a resistance to the u.s. as he said unacceptable and disgraceful attempt to pressure north korea into unilateral disarmament ahead of the summit. so that s obviously how they re seeing what was going on. and i ve spoke to u.s. officials who have also been on this. and they said, look, frankly the cart was put in front of the horse from the beginning. that there were no parameters. the actual technical work had not been done to decide what were the red lines, what were the negotiations, what was the step by step process. so not enough work had been done to have a summit between two leaders, between the president of the united states and the leader of north korea. do you think that played a big role? i mean in the administration, this was usually summits are started from the bottom up. there s a lot of groundwork that s done, a lot of meetings, weeks, months, if not years in some cases and the two leaders meet and shake hands and sign something. do you think it was partly that there were a lot of details to work out? certainly. we were not prepared to have this summit just a few weeks away. but i have to say i think kim jong-un was actually not planning to cancel the meeting by this statement that was made by his other deputy. they were actually trying to signal to washington they were very displeased about all this talk about libya which is nightmare scenario with libya. they didn t appreciate this talk, they weren t going to cave to u.s. pressure. but i think they wanted this meeting, which is why north korea released a statement which is very measured, tempered and disciplined for north korean standards. so i think that message didn t come across to washington. we just thought they were being very aggressive. but north koreans were trying to send a signal and it was just lost in translation, the whole thing was. max, you tweeted about how president trump canceled the summit with quote, the kind of letter he would have written to a high school crush with whom he was breaking up. i take it you re not impressed with his style of diplomacy? this is just the latest episode of trump-style diplomacy. this comes after a few days of his attempts to reach a trade deal with china also crashed and burned. and he had to kind of admit that he hadn t achieved anything. he hadn t achieved $200 billion in reductions of the u.s. china trade deficit. and you see what happened in the case of north korea. he rushed into the summit with no preparation without any kind of groundwork you need to lay for such an undertaking. and he hyped up expectation tuesday the ceiling. a month ago he said north korea was the white house was mintsi minting coins and all of a sudden over the last week or two things spiralled downward and they said, wait a second the north koreans are not actually going to denuclearize. so they rushed into the summit with high expectations and now has kind of backed out of it, which i think is the right thing to do at this point. but it just shows the same style he used in business, which by the way led him to six corporate bankruptcy, he s now applying to the business of the united states. do you see a scenario in which the summit does take place whether it s on the original date or a later date some time this summer? look, it s hard to imagine it happening on the original date. but, again, many diplomats, people who have been working this issue for a long time, especially on the u.s. side, they do see both sides want to have a summit. it was clear from president trump s body language that he s pretty disappointed because of this and he also wanted this sort of historic summit and all the things that they ve been saying that he wanted to take away from it. so it might happen some time down the line, but it s clear a huge amount of proper work needs to be done. however, there s also a bit of a problem brewing because what president trump has done similar to dissing his european allies at the last minute on iran. remember macron of france came to the united states, trying to persuade him that diplomacy was the right way to go with iran and to keep the deal. and the minute he s on a plane back to france the president pulls out of that deal, similar with the south korean president who was in washington a couple of days ago basically as a u.s. official told me betting the farm on this diplomacy and being the intermediary, only to land back in seoul and find this whole rug has been pulled out from under him. so we re being told it s possible that the chinese may now step in and be the main mediators if you like. otherwise this may have given china a much bigger role than it might have had had if just been going between the u.s. and north and south korea. so we ll wait to see what happens. is this a win for kim jong-un even if the summit never happens simply by being legitimized by a sitting president and having a sitting president reach out to me and call me, that s something the north korean leadership has wanted for quite a while. no, absolutely. and since the olympics and agreeing to meet with him, now kim jong-un has had a makeover and now he s had this statement. and he has actually loosened or weakened political will for sanctions when it comes to china. and he also put a wedge between u.s. and south korean alliances as christiane was just talking about. south korea was completely just floored by this, by trump just scrapping the meeting. when president moon was here he was assured this meeting would take place. kim has gained a lot here without even sitting down with president trump. what we re seeing, anderson, is better evidence that trump is better at breaking deals than making deals. he s pulled out the paris climate accord, most recently the iran nuclear deal. he says he s the world s greatest deal maker. there s no evidence of that so far. is he going to negotiate a deal with iran? there doesn t seem to be a plan deal after pulling out of the iran nuclear deal, and now he negotiated those high hopes and maybe the summit will still take place at some point, but he s not living up to his hype as a deal maker. that s the thing about a summit between the dictator of north korea and the president of the united states, that would be perhaps in future administrations a reward for some sort of behavior change and action on the part of north korea, which it s sort of done backwards. it s backwards. and trump consistency shows his contempt for established norms and established way of doing things. he trusts his gut. he doesn t want to listen to advisers, read briefing players. clearly the evidence of his presidency he shows that s not the case. he s not reaching these great deals. i ve got to get a break in. more breaking news involving the russia investigation, this time involving roger stone who details about why specifically the mueller team is interested in him. money managers are pretty much the same. all but while some push high commission investment products, fisher investments avoids them. some advisers have hidden and layered fees. fisher investments never does. and while some advisers are happy to earn commissions from you whether you do well or not, fisher investments fees are structured so we do better when you do better. maybe that s why most of our clients come from other money managers. fisher investments. clearly better money management. . . . keep your most valuable insights hidden from your competitors. the ibm cloud. the cloud for smarter business. the ibm cloud. come hok., babe. nasty nighttime heartburn? 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he got a lot of scrutiny because during the 2016 presidential campaign he sent out tweets, made public statements that looked pretty pressy and made it look like he was essentially predicting what wikileaks was about to do next. stone denied he had any foreknowledge wikileaks would release hacked e-mails related to john podesta, who was then a clinton campaign staffer, but that certainly drew a lot of public scrutiny. we know mueller has been asking about that as well and may have put him on the radar in the first place. what has stone said about all of this? stone has denied he had anything to do with the russian collusion, and he and his allies now believe essentially this is a witch-hunt to try to pin him on anything and bring down a long-time ally of the president. i will read a portion of the statement stone gave me where he said the special counsel now seems to be combing through every molecule of my existence including my personal life and business affairs to conjure up some offense to charge me with, either to silence me or induce me to testify against the president. stone insists he will never turn against for the president. as for the special counsel s team, they re not commenting. thanks very much. a lot more ahead including the briefing on the hill about the investigation. also, north korea responds to president trump calling off the summit. first, a preview of the cnn original series 1968, a special two-night event starting this sun at 9:00 p.m. eastern. take a look. in the spring of 68, you ve got the most violent period of the entire war. i ll be so glad to go home. i ve seen the promised land, but i want you to know tonight that we as a people will get to the promised land! martin luther king was shot and killed tonight. for my parents generation, king was the dream, and then he s gone. i am announcing today my candidacy for the presidency of the united states. oh, my god. senator kennedy has been shot. this was really the death of hope. wallace knew how to get a crowd energized. i know four letter words you don t know. hustling over the busy intersection. the graduate is probably the most important movie of the 60s. i hope to restore respect to the presidency. one of the most dramatic and consequential years in history. 1968, a four-part, two-night cnn original series event starts sunday at 9:00. little things can be a big deal. that s why there s otezla. otezla is not an injection or a cream. it s a pill that treats psoriasis differently. with otezla, 75% clearer skin is achievable after just 4 months, . with reduced redness, thickness, and scaliness of plaques. and the otezla prescribing information has no requirement for routine lab monitoring. don t use if you re allergic to otezla. otezla may cause severe diarrhea, nausea, or vomiting. tell your doctor if these occur. otezla is associated with an increased risk of depression. tell your doctor if you have a history of depression or suicidal thoughts, or if these feelings develop. some people taking otezla reported weight loss. your doctor should monitor your weight and may stop treatment. other side effects include upper respiratory tract infection and headache. tell your doctor about all the medicines you take and if you re pregnant or planning to be. otezla. show more of you. still nervous [about buying a house? 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truman ass the nat 1 on thef korean war. quote what we are doing in korea is this. we are trying to prevent a third world war and this may be a turning point for a search in a practical way of achieving peace and security. and that mission goes on. eve ael tucker carlsonight. it tns out the doj failed to dictate the final result of the 2,018 presidential election, but a year and a half into the trump administration the justice department still seems to at times be operating as a shadow government, a place that considers itself beyond the reach of normal oversight. back in the real world, congress has the explicit constitutional power to oversee the fbi and a othercutincies, less weight supposed to work. apparently that fact infuriates the deputy attorney general rob rosenstein. earlier this year in january, rosensteinhreatened to appeal the email sent on staffers because of her being too aggressive. the message from rosenstein, back off. you don t investigate us, we will investigate you. fox s chief correspondent catherine herridge broke that story and she has more on it tonight. speak of the emails written on government accounts formerly documented the january meeting for the house office of general counsel. the tough lawyer for protecting congress. fbi director christopher wray, their senior advisors as well as house intelligecommittee chairman devin nunes and his senior staff. it came at the height of alleged government surveillance usage viewed at the trump campaign. today they responded to allegations and rob rosenstein threatened to subpoena records and turn the tables on republican-led house intelligence committee and staff over the russia case. it is deeply concerning them are under subpoena in the opening and is an obstruction of justice. tucker? tucker: thank you for breaking that story in the first place. is nothe o example of theavior doj apparently viewing itself as beyond beyond normal oversight. months ago, we discovered that fbi agents peter strzok and other page were using their personal views intruding on their law enforcement duties. how far will that go into wells may be involved? the public has a right to know that but we don t because the doj keeps trying to censor the text messages before relisting them. here s one example. in a september 2015 text, he maintains about the handling of a case but the exact route complaint was her exact stomach rejected. thanks to work by senator ron johnson s office, know that he wanted to quote bargain away everything and that it had a quote stockholm syndrome. and how they did everything they could to avoid bringing crges against any of clinton s team. what is clear, is that nothing he said was a security threat that would require a reduction in order to protect the country. the doj was just trying to cover itself from keeping the public from learning the truth about what was going on, is not a defense? professor, it s a very simple question. is the department of justice allowed to redact information solely for the purpose of protecting its on reputation? it is not, even though it has a long history of doing so, not just in congress but in the courts. what s really funny is, they will charge somee who gives the misleading information, but they will tell congress that they rejected classified information that proves entirely unclassified. there is this sense of acting without her impunity, when you redact these types of documents. and that material is classified under any defition. they can disagree with chairman nunez, they can disagree with the white house, but they should all agree on the fact that this is an improper use of reduction. r: and it s been going on you set for quite some time, so this is basically the status quo, not a new way of ing business? unfortunately it is. i ve been counseling security cases against the government, and i have redacted to the courts that it s clearly not classified. and, n disputesharob rosenstein went over to the congress and threatened to subpoena the personal communications of members there. have you ever seen anything like the relationship betwe sugge the doj and the oversight committee these committees have not had a robust oversight record. they often roll over. this is something new, and frankly, those of us who wanted more oversight have welcomed the last year. finally you have a committee ying, wait. and threatening weather it s criminal or civil, staffers mbers, it s clearly inappropriate. i can understand that rosenstein may have felt he was being mistreated, but that doesn t matter. you have to get over it. congress created the department of justice, this isn t personal. it isversight buss. so no matter how aggrieved you may be, you cant speak to an oversight committee and threaten those staffers with taking something like subpoenas to their doorstep. tucker: congress does have oversight over the executive agencies, including the department of justice, correct? i mean, you watch the other channels and would think that was something that the right-wingers made up last week. but that s a constitutional principle, am i right? that s absolutely right and you shouldn t pick fights with people with ersight power. tucker: yeah, i guess you shouldn t. professor, thank you very much. dana goldman isme federal precutor and he joins us. thanks for coming on. my pleasure, thanks for being here. tucker: so this is a good point, and one i ve heard others make before. this is been going on for a long time, not just this administration by previous mions, where the department of justice withholds informatn from congress claiming it s classified, and when unredacted, it turns out to be not classified. they were lying. why would anyone defend that practice? these things can often be subject to interpretation, and the prosecutor may have se belief that an initial stage that they are, or the department of justice may have a belief that things are classified out there in relation to that case or other cases, or they may be some theory that it is classified and the defense attorney disagreed and said it s not classified. ultimately, a judge decides it. this is no different than tucker: let me give you an example. this is a little bit different. for example, the trump department of justiceithheld this information from the congress that andrew mccabe spent $70,000 on a conference table. now you could argue that he had a right to do that or it was appropriate or whatever, but you can t argue that that information itself is classified are critical to national security. why would anyone def that? you are trying to hone in on one particular reason why things are redacted,orshould not be. the one what would be the justification for him rejecting spending 70,000 on a conference table? i don t know, and i don t know the detailed circumstances. but the point that i would want to make to you and listening to jonathan turley as well, we are looking at these as reductions and loot these of the overght role into the department of justice. you have to draw a clear line between investigations that are over such as the clinton email investigations, and investigations that are ongoing such as the trump russian investigation. there is a long-standing practice that the department of justice does not give over information relevant to ongoing to congress, and that is sometuse intelligence committee, through the use of their purported overght role has sort of done away with and tryo get it. tucker: it when you say purported oversight role, do they not have oversight role? if they have an oversight role. tucker: what do you mean purported oversight role? they are using the guise of their oversight role app to ask for information that either they should not get, or that they tentially and by accounts coordinated wit the white house and others who aren t subject of the investigation. that s entirely improper. tucker: i understand you are a partisan involved in the parts and debate, but take three steps back. there is a public interest here so we know that the last administration had a paid informant spying on at least ree members of the trump campaign. maybe there was a good reason and maybe there wasn t but the fact is, it was true. and the fact is that shakes they of tepartment of justice. so why wn tesponsible people do their very best to explain why that happened as soon as they possibly could and calm public fears if the system is corrupt? because the public believes it including me. why wouldn t we want to know why that happened? i am not partisan. i think that people who use the term spy in the context of a confidential informant are doing only for partisan reasons. when you are going down that road ofsing a spy, tucker: what i doing is speaking english and what you re doing is carrying water for a political party. i m saying they gathered information without the knowledge of the people they re speaking to. what happens in thousands of investigations across country. tucker: it may, but it doesn t again so the question, which i think i have a right to know, which is, why did that happen? is not normal. you don t have the right to know, e investigations are confidentifb investigare confidential f very important reasons includi the protection of people who aren t charged and the sources of information, such as confidential infmants. tucker: i understand. i would actually disagree with you completely, and i know you are a form of so comg this from a different point of view, obviously. but no one is disputing it happen to come up we know the names of the people involved. all that information is public and it s been in the new york times. you acknowledge there is a public interest in explaining this to the public so they can trust the government aga. why was the obama administration spying on the campaign? i don tispute that there is a public interest. i outweigdn current moment by an ongoing and confidential investigation. the public does have a right to know at some point after the ongoing investigation is not jeopardized by telio r: shy are people like me w are asking honest, tisan questions.ely like, ho did this happen? wham i being attacked as someone who is challenging the rule of law or seeking to dermine the system? my position is, i m trying to preserve public faith in the system with sunlight. i thought that was a traditional on, is it not? i agree with you. i m just saying there is a public interest and i think that you and others have a right to know what happened during the course of an investigation. just not while the investigation that s a critical difference. by preserving the rule of law, you have to preserve the confidentiality of investigation, and ultimately it will all come out. you do have a right to know and that s why i draw the distinction between the clinton email investigation, which is over, and a ongoing investigation where the confidential informant is very relevant. tucker:anl, thank you for that, i appreciate it. house republicans are making another push at immigration. will their bills fulfill the president s promises during the campaign or are theyet another slap to the donor class? 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it seems like the republicans could win this debate if you look at all the polling on it, and the republicans are basically on the side. lou: as you have reported, you can slice and dice the demographics anyway want to come and more people are disgusted and appald by that dilatory us and a negative impact of illegal immigration into this country, and that is simply the straightforward fact. but they can t even raise a voice that is even remotely comparable to the ownership of the establishment and global elites who are demanding cheap labor. and that is straightforward. it is your purpose to bring more immigration into this country and to preserve lower wages. just as president trump has wages rising, the middle class is now growing. it was stagnant and it declining for 20 years until president trump moved into the oval office. tucker: is a you are saying the current rlican leadership is willing to ignore the basic lefts on the last election and the expressed will of the american population in order to serve the interest of a very small group of people to pay the bills. b6 absolutely. and ryan is a lame duck speaker, he will only be in office until january of next year, he resigned. but that s all the republican conference can do in the house of representatives. he is now in franchise with the leadership conference and also what would be assuredly a loss of 50 seats in the midterm elections as a result of moving into the amnesty of this. the pace will not stand for this minute, no matter how popular the president is. and he is wildly popular. no matter the fictions that are spun up by ryan and his so-called leadership council. tucker: do they have pollsters who are telling them that politically, this is smart? lou: no. they have weltrategists telling them they suld run on the tax cuts, rather than the trump agenda, which is the tax cuts, deregulation, balancing international trade, creating jobs, bring it back manufacturing, dealing with all the important issues in foreign policy,er it is the immense and an end success of e singapore summit, which is just one of a litany of achievements that this president unprecedented achievements. it is absolute disaster. tucker: tucker: rhinos rue lemmings, mindlessly. blue jobs, gre to see you. lou: the lemmings, i will admit, it was redundant. tucker: of berkeley has a plan for fixing the climate emergency they have identified. population control. you know it was coming to that at some point. that story, next since stopping it too soon increases your risk of clots in your stent, heart attack, stroke, aneven death. brilinta may cause bruising or bleeding more easily, or serious, sometimes fatal bleeding. don t take brilinta if you have bleeding, like stomach ulcers, a history of bleeding in the brain, or severe liver problems. slow heart rhythm has been reported. tell your doctor about bleeding new or unexpected shortness of breath any planned surgery, and all medicines you take. ask your doctor if brilinta is right for you. my heart is worth brilinta. if you can t afford your medication, astrazeneca may be able to help. the world in a quote climate emergency. they called for a push to halt all carbon emissions worldwide and said governments must make efforts to humanely stabilize population. that s a phrase which robespierre would surely love. thanks so much for coming on. thanks for having me, tucker. tucker: so i m a pretty teral person, if they say climate emergency, tounds me. so if it s a emergency, why does anyone in berkeley have an air conditioner? i hate to sort of acts that people live out their purported beliefs, but if they are telling the rest of us we need to have fewer kids, why are they still driving and using the ac? i totally believe, tucker but i don t think they are telling us to have less babies. climate change and the impact that human beings have on environment is related to a lot of stuff. that we ar having but carbon emissions and eating less meat. i think we can all agree that we care about our planet but it s not about having less children. tucker: and i don t think it is. are we agreeing? is insane and grotesque and it s a window into what this really is, which is they aren t saying it s an emergency, everyone has stomach and stop having babies. tucker: but hold on. if they are saying and it s an emergency, presumably they bet is. so han they justify writing biases, having cars, refrigerators, any activity that adds to the sum total of co2 emissions? why are they still committing these activities? why should i listen and take anyone seriously who is driving a car and simultaneously telling me not to have more kids? i don t think are saying that. it s a combination of factors. and it s a complex environment. i think in general, the younger generation, the millennials, are becoming more environmentally cautious. i think the technology is catching up to the fact that people are becoming more tucker: if people are much poorer because they are deeply in studentt for degreesat mea ny have boughto the system that is essential and down like a socially fraudulent, and they have no money. they are environmentally conscious, but they are poor. that s one part of it, but there s more than one factor when it comes to climate change and what we can do to reduce our impact. tucker: i am actually in favor of a clean environment. so i wonder why, have you noticed this? places that spend of the most energy telling the rest of us that the world isnding because of climate change also tend to have the dirty streets and the largest number of peo relieving themselves on the sidewalk, and the most trash? if you care about the environment, maybe you should clean up in front of city does that occur to liberals? it s not just liberals that are responsible for climate change, it s all of us. and i agree with you, we can t just talk the talk, we have to follow up with actions. tucker: but seriously, if you care about the environment and making the world a cleaner and clearly i am for that. we agree with that, we all want to keep the environment cleaner. tucker: have you been to berkeley? new york city? san francisco? there are people relieving themselves on the sidewalk and then walking around them are environmentalists wanting to lecture me about how many kids i have. but you know what, it s not necessarily about where in the world is more populated, it s about who is using more resources. and i agree with you that we have to do much better. tucker: do you agree that if we are going to make the world cleaner, we could start by cleaning up the sidewalks? then we could maybe get to the part about fixing the hole in the ozone layer. i don t think it can be either or,very day. speak one way or the cities with the most open and aggressive commitment to the environment the dirtiest? why is portland, oregon, a filthy place downtown? that s not true. i m not talking specifically about portland, but not all cities that are saying that we need to do better about our environment are filthy. we are you getting that from? tucker: okay. track with me ruick just for this one question. if you say you care about the environment, do you agree or disagree that maybe you should start by cleaning up the street in front of your house? why can t you do both? do both. tucker: i m not saying that you can t do both. but wh is it that the people lecturing me about and the environment live in environments that are filthy? we all care about the planet and can do more. tucker: we don t all care about the planet. my house has nobody sleeping on the front step because i care about the environment. okay. tucker: great to see you. up next, the creepy lawyer not doing as well as he once did. a creepy porn lawyer update, next life insurance policies. knowing that usaa will always have my back. that s just one less thing you have to worry about. i dn t imagine going anywhere else. they re like a friend of the family. we are the cochran family, sal bea members for life. save by bundling usaa home and auto insurance. get a quote today. gonna make it rain tre tres . kids cause dad s he s saying he s gonna score a bunch of three-pointers on you. yeah, we ball til we fall. there are multiples on the table: one is cash, three are fha, one is va. so what can you do? 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[laughs] on this shore show, we have chd the war on standards a the faa where relevant biographica questions were imposed on aspiring air traffic controllers. sadly, this is far from the only example of standardseclining in the united states. beneath public view, there is never a debate on any of this. it just happens in scientific fields. you wouldn t think it would come up but it is. heather mcdonald has chronicled it in detail. hools and other institutions are cutting requirements in an effort to be more diverse, whatever that means. heather macdonald also wrote the upcoming boo she joins us tonight. heather, thank you for coming on. we were stunned to find that the faa was intentionally trying to hi unqualified air traffic controllers because it s insane and dangerous. but you wouldn t think that same impulse would find its way into hard sciences, like medicine or research scientists, but you say it is? heather: it s very ng, tucker. there s not aingle point that is free and that s the irrelevant criteria of race and gender. it s doing r this as, get this, enter sexuality. this is not what congress had i mind when they created the national science foundation in 1952 sponsor seriousentificrese. we are putting our scientific competitiveness at great risky introducing the total irrelevancy of race and gender diversity into scientific accomplishment tucker: will confused because i thought the left believed in science, they had a little march announcing that i think t a year and a half ago. is there scientific evidence of race or gender of a scientific researcher, for example, is material that affects the outcome of the experiment in some way? heather: while the left hates science when it s proving facts that like, and it hates objectivity. there is no scientific evidence. we have had 200 grantees of the national science foundation that have one about prizes. things like discovering dark matter, discovering how viruses work, and this was with utter indifference. true color blindness, a true meritocracy. and they can see on the left that diversity matters in scientific thinking. well, it doesn t. if the lab is all-female, all asian, all-black, great. all the public cares about is, alzheimer s?ing to cure that we do that is by being color and gender blind and hiring on merit, not based on gender. tucker:t s terrifying, they have infected science with politics obviously. i hope you will come back in future days with details on this. heather mcdonald, great to see you. heather: thank you. tucker: the doj was set to release his report on the clinton email investigation. whatill we learn from that? quentin greenwald joins us, next for $339 a month for 36 months. experience amazing at your lexus dealer. means they won t hike your rateseness over one mistake. see, liberty mutual doesn t hold grudges. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise their rate because ofheir f accident. berty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance. especially with bloody or black stools. the most common side eff is diarrhea, sometimes severe. if it s severe, stop taking linzess and call your doctor right away. other side effects include gas, stomach area pain, and swelling. so say yesss! to help for recurring constipation. yesss! to help for belly pain. talk to your doctor and say yesss! linzess. rosenstein has been caught threatening staffers with subpoenas for trying to do their job, overseeing his agency. tomorrow, michael horowitz will release his report on the hillary clinton email investigation. they could shi l on a number of key players in that probe. what exactly can we expect from it? joining us now is glenn greenwald, editor of the intercept. he joins us from rio. thank you for coming on. what exactly will we see tomorrow in the ig report? the focus is the behavior of the fbi and also the justice department as part of the 2016 elections, particularly possible criminality as related to the private email server. there are, i think, a consensus of reports that suggest that the report will lambaste jim comey, the than fbi director andrew mccabe become his deputy, as well as criticize lorettaynch. they could cut both ways because, particularly you should have never stood up at the press conference in mid-2016, and when he announced there would be charges brought againstary clind to critior what she did. it s also possible though to conclude that there was political bias on the whole process that led to the decision not to charge hillary clinton in the first place. so it s unclear who politically it would help but it certainly will reflect by all accounts very clearly. i am not a hillary clinton photo voter but that was not his role. i am very struck by the reaction to this story in the press. the default seems to be, you don t have a right, to know what they are doing, and b, depressed to find out. with the press be interested in actually knowing what happened at doj? glen: this is bn of course but i think the principal defectives with the media, they so closely identify and they more often and then not end up defending their prerogatives and their secrecy powers and what it is they do rather than trying to do their job which is to shine a light on what it is they are doing. obviously any agency that the justice department does have, when they are conducting a criminal investigation or being involved in with the grand jury, they should know what the people are investigating. they don t want their name being smeared. but when you are talking about something as politically momentous as jim comey s investigation of the two major political candidates, once the investigation is over, and in heller clinton s case, the investigation has been brought to an end, we want to know everything about w they did and what they said. there s almost this anger on people who want to bring transparency and allowing the people to see your emails and i think that s very problematic. tucker: is steeply revealing of them. quickly, you cover this stuff for a long time. when the truth finally comes to light, how often have you noticed that information we weren t allowed to see because it was classified and held back in terms of the safety of the united states of america, it turned out to be not classified at all. it termed to it turned out to e just covering them. it s been a glen: when the government claims that things things have to be kept secret, one of two things is . either the information is incredibly banal and isn t the kind of thing that needs to be kept from the african people, or the reason they want to keep it secret is not to protect national security but to shi their own reputations and potentially their own legal interests because they were engaged in secret wrongdoings. in a healthy democracy, the presumption should be, the people should know what their government is doing and the government should know people are doing, and we reverse that. now they know almost everything we do and we know nothing they do that it s disturbing. tucker: that is true. glenn greenwald, thank you. he s one of the most honest commenters on american politics and he i also deeply committed to dogs and runs a dog shelter out of his house. so we will talk tim about that in great detail in the next inside the issues special lady of the summer. stated for that. up next, robert de niro s run of anti-trump contact on my comments has fired up hollywood. but could it paradox locally pp the president when the next election? 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are you talking to me? the brilliance of broadway, the greatest entertainers in the world on the great white way. the brilliance of broadway talents. to take that showed that level, it was very, very uncomfortable. and i am being polite. tucker: especially since he has made so many great movies. he doesn t needed to end this way. joe piscopo, great man. fun at the festival. father johon says god bless you, my son.