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egyptians live on either in poverty or below the poverty line, on less than $2. when you have all egyptian institutions have been decimated. when you don't have freedom of expression, no institutions. that changes your calculus. it changes your assessment. i think the protesters are terrified that their revolution, what they call the intefadeh, might be hijacked by the mubarak regime. and the question really is, the question at the heart of your question, lies the lack, the absence of trust and confidence in the president in president mubarak and his regime. and that's why it seems to me there is a fierce struggle of political wills between the protesters on the one hand and the opposition who would like to move the entire regime and president mubarak and his allies who would like to do everything in power except to keep the president in place. we'll see who will blink first in the next week or so. >> fawaz, you just kind of
built on, and it can't stay down for long if egypt is going to continue to thrive or even survive economically. >> cleo, two-thirds of the country is under the age of 30. they are in your demographic. what does that mean in a situation like this, and what does it mean in terms of the speed of the electronic communication? >> it means they are all online, and they are all frustrated, and they all don't have, you know, the economic opportunities that they are supposed to have at that age, so they are all, you know, frustrated and angry and that's the way they are communicating, communicating online because that's what they have access to. >> in your experience with the country in the efforts that some have suggested that egypt make towards economic liberalization, does that go hand in hand with democratization? it doesn't seem to have happened? >> not necessarily, no. i mean, in the '80s and '90s, starting with sadat actually in the '70s, there was the infanta, and that was supposed to be