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Schmoo, why is my client lumped in with donald trump? the risk is more for the defendant, particularly the lower level defendants. for the prosecuprosecutor, if t prove it beyond a reasonable doubt, it is their best friend. chuck, let s talk about some of the co-conspirators in the jack smith federal case and this broad state case with 19 defendants, 18 co-defendants. what is the impetus for someone who is an unindicted co-conspirator to make a deal with jack smith to flip if they are indicted in the state? do you see the state and federal prosecutors agreeing on some sort of universal agreement for those who want to bargain in the next ten days? you know, your question gets to the heart of the problem, ....
Around that. he is going to end up campaigning to some extent in these trials or through these trials if he goes on trial in january, as jack smith wants him to do in the january 6 election overturning case, it s literally whether the iowa caucuses are about to happen. you see him making statements to the cameras and that becoming his equivalent of campaigning, his rallies. he won t be with diners kissing babies. he will do it from the courthouse. that s the reality of the situation we find ourselves in. the country is in uncharted territory, but especially so the 2024 race and the republicans in that race. as we were talking about a moment ago, being constantly asked to react to donald trump instead of about the issues. let me play tim scott who just spoke with our own ali vitali. reporter: we heard the phone ....
And that case is not going to trial on january 2nd. he had a legitimate, strategic reason not to do that. he has to get the case done. she does not have to do that, the d.a. of fulton county. she can lean back. she can wait. there s no she said she will do this in six months. that s not going to happen with 19 defense attorneys. he cannot, if he is re-elected or if a republican is elected, pardon himself or any of the other defendants in this case. even the georgia governor, who is republican, can t pardon him or any of the defendants under the georgia law. what is the timing? what do you believe the timing is going to be? you say six months is unlikely. they can wait until after the election. i know you are always saying, be ready, be ready often, say you are ready for trial. she will answer ready. ....
I think that some of the cases are more likely to be successful. i think the case involving the classified documents is a case that has fairly straightforward elements to it. if, in fact, the facts that are alleged are true, that s a very difficult case to defend. i think these other cases involve speech and really the president s mental state. to say that he knew that he had lost the election is going to be very difficult to prove. there were people around him who said he lost. there were people who said he didn t lose, it was stolen. i think to show his mental state in both the federal election case as well as this election case is going to be very difficult. congressman, it s chris jansing here. there s legal and there s the political. outside of the courthouse yesterday, after he was inside that courthouse, former georgia lieutenant governor jeff duncan talked about the opportunity he thinks this indictment presents for your party. let me play that. ....
Federal prosecutors, including chris christie, have been very disparaging of this indictment, of willis using rico. have you tried a rico case? tell us why the rico law in georgia is very different from the federal rico law and why it specifically could be tailored as a powerful weapon for this case. it s not very different from the federal rico law. our rico law here in georgia was patterned after the federal rico law. there are things around enterprise you have to prove under federal law that you don t have to under state law. it s pretty much the same thing. this is an opinion, right? some people will say that using rico in a case like this is like using a sledgehammer to kill an ant. some people say it s not, that it s a powerful tool that allows you to bring in assorted criminal activity and some activity that s not criminal but perhaps may be unethical and tell the whole story. right? ....