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Emp. mark: welcome back, dr. peter pry. what would be, before we get to the question of how do we protect ourselves? the question is, we need to figure out how we might be attacked? what are the different scenarios, i'm sure there are many, which a country might want to shut down our electrical grid? >> north korea could shut down our grid by an emp attack off a satellite. they in fact have two satellites orbiting over this country as we speak that pass over us several times a day, at optimal altitude to evade our national defense systems. mark: how would they make an emp field? >> detonate th...

Getting knocked down and transformers being damaged. if you can survive the worst threat, the nuclear emp attack, you will be able to come back much more quickly from the lesser threats. not just for the rare exotic scenario of terrorist nuclear emp attack, it would improve the security on tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms that cause blackouts. you don't have to be a physicist to see the grid is at risk. if you look at history of blackouts and the long recovery times that are required after there's these hurricanes, you can see there's something wrong. look at puerto rico, you know? you know, ...

Without nuclear weapons. they were trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have utility. you need hundreds of them, never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had one bomb, okay, you know that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal because they wouldn't need...

Attack is not an emp attack. the combination of it is irresistible, just like the blitzkrieg that the newsy germany came up with with irresistible and nearly defeated the western democracies in world war ii. if we don't protect our systems, there will be no coming back from it. and the bad guys would win, in their doctrine, they would replace one civilization with anotr in 24 hours. mark: we have the ability to do this to our adversaries and enemies as well, correct? >> well -- >> launching a missile, nuclear missile? exploding it above a particular country and so forth, do we? >> we have the ...

Deployed that kind of warhead. we have warheads can you use any warhead to do an emp attack. we could. we've got cyberoffensive capabilities, physical sabotage capabilities. mark: do we prepare for these things the way our enemies do? >> i wish we did. in terms of offensive capabilities? . >> i wish we did. i don't know whether we do or not. i suspect we don't. the reason i suspect we don't is because we haven't protected ourselves from the enemies offensive capabilities. and if we understood and had put it together and ourselves mastered this new way of warfare and prepared to execute it, i w...