be pushback here. he spoke very favorably of exxonmobil ceo rex tillerson. rex will will be a fierce ade for america s interests around the world and has insights and talents necessary to help reverse years of foreign policy blunders and disasters. [cheering] you re winning with health care. we re winning on the border. we re winning with isis. because we are going to get isis out. we re going to win so much, you will go to paul ryan, you will go, mr. speaker, please, please, we can t stand winning this much. we can t take it. and he is going to come to see me and he will mr. president, the people in wisconsin are tired of winning so much. more on that today. start with team fox coverage, david lee miller at trump tower in new york. begin with fox news digital much, right. gnaw nah. donald trump won 306 electoral votes. you need 270 to win. is it conceivably possible that 37 electors would be what we call faithless? it has happened in the past, that one or two or here there, faithless in protest, not voting the way the voters of the state have ordained. this is, remember a federal republic, not a direct demock estimate they have agency. now they face consequences at home. every state has a different law what the penalty for an elector who doesn t follow state laws are. but let s say you get that many electors, some brag, may be as many as 20 that would be faithless. let s say you got it all the way up to 37 that you need to push trump under 270. then the election goes to the house and trump wins it there anyway. this is all cockamamie. bill: wall street journal writes this. what should really distress americans that the losers are day ahead including a meeting with some of silicon valley top executives. trump tower. good morning, david lee, who do they expect over there today? a long list of special guests, martha. in fact you might best be calling trump tower silicon valley north. a number of titans of tech will be arriving in the next few years. invitees include representatives from apple, amazon, google, microsoft and ibm. the priority item on the agenda is expected to jobs, and the special visas. bill: issued by the government that allow many foreign tech workers to hold positions here. the president-elect s chief strategist steve bannon in the past expressed concern there were too many silicon valley ceos that hail from south asia or asia. at least one company will be bringing some welcome news. ibm announced that it plans to hire 25,000 tech professionals in the u.s. one tech titan conspicuously absent from the invitee list though, argue hably the president-elect s favorite tech company, twitter. they are not expected to be represented here today. in other news it is now official. mr. trump is going to nominate rick perry as the energy secretary. in announcement just a few hours ago this morning the transition team said the former texas governor helped his state prosper by developing energy programs as well as infrastructure. and fox news has learned now that mr. trump plans to nominate montana republican congressman ryan zinkte as secretary of the interior. he is a former navy s.e.a.l. he met with mr. trump earlier this week on monday. the president-elect though still apparently looking for his agriculture secretary nominee. growing speculation is mr. trump is eyeing north dakota democratic senator heidi heitkamp the job. if offered heitkamp might turn it down. a special election would have to be held to replace her and likely to favor a republican. lastly, still no word on mr. trump s choice for secretary of veterans affairs. veterans groups are calling for mr. trump keep robert mcdonald in that position. he had the job now for about two years. and many veterans groups say that mcdonald, a republican, has implemented the types of reforms they would like to see and hope that he continues to hold that position. martha? martha: we will see. david lee, thank you. mr. trump s pick for secretary of state, rex tillerson, face as rough road to confirmation mostly because of his ties to russia. is this an advantage or disadvantage for him? this is first faceoff between the trump white house and senate republicans opposed to this. how will this go down? a packed show beginning a senator from tennessee bob corker who was up for that job, one of the people under consideration. the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. they re the people who will hold tillerson s confirmation hearing. he will be here in a few minutes. we look forward to that. we ll get thoughts from trump transition team spokesman jason miller. who will be here as they work on convincing skeptical republicans that tillerson is the man for the job. this is the first showdown likely to happen for one of these spots. bill: trump had merry christmas on the lecturn last night which was really nice touch. we added our own nice touch, martha. christmas trees. the poinsettias. martha: we love christmas spirit and love having this around. bill: we do too. merry christmas. could this be another record-breaker? market set to open in 20 minutes. dow looking for a major milestone. 20,000 today? maybe? maria bartiromo is here to talk about that live in a moment. martha: it dances around it but will it close above it, that is the question? it s a meltdown of humanity, the images, video, the voices from aleppo will break your heart. we ll show you what is going on there as cease-fire unravels when we come back. the civilians are stuck in very small area that doesn t exceed two square kilometers with no safeguards, no. save aleppo. safe humanity. bill: president-elect donald trump pushing ahead for his pick of secretary of state. exxonmobil ceo rex tillerson setting up potential showdown in the u.s. senate, including members of his own party who have concerns over ties to the russia leader vladmir putin. mr. trump heaping praise on his pick just last night in wisconsin. very excited about rex. you know rex is friendly with many of the leaders in the world that we don t alongwith. some people don t like that. they don t want to be friendly. i am doing the deal with rex because this is what it is all about, tennessee north bob corker chairing the senate foreign relations committee leading you re on the short list. why do you think he went in a different direction? look, as, as i said when president-elect trump called me on monday night rex tillerson is someone known around the globe. he has run a huge operation. he knows these people personally. for what president trump wishes to do, i think rex tillerson was his best choice, i really do. so now he is moving into confirmation hearings. obviously bill, what people are going to want to know, rex under the hood, advising the president. it will be the president s foreign policy that is carried out but people will really want to press him what his views are of our relationship to russia, china. many of the people in the middle east and that s what these hearings are about. my guess is he will be very prepared. i just got a call from someone who will be handling his transition and, we ll have those hearings set. bill: you said in your answer there, for what mr. trump wants to do. what is that based on your understanding? well he s, look, let s face it, he will tell you himself. he is a prolific deal maker and i think people are going to want to understand towards what end? you know we had, bill, 60 or 70 years of policy towards europe since world war ii where they have been whole, democratic and free. putin obviously is trying to upset. what he is doing in the baltics, eastern ukraine, crimea. how he helped destablize with many of the just efforts that have taken place in europe and just the refugee crisis itself. so which he has helped produce through what s happened in syria. so, people are going to want to understand that. and even though rex tillerson is a businessman had to do business with these people and to me that is very understandable, of course he did, and the fact that he nose these people to me is certainly a plus but i m going to want to know, everyone else is, on the committee is going to want to understand. so what will he be advising the president as it relates to those relationships, and the norms that we ve had in place to keep us as an alliance in a very strong position. bill: okay you said a lot in your answer there and you know being friendly does not necessarily dictate a friendship. no. bill: as twisted as that statement may sound but you had your own colleagues, john mccain, lindsey graham, marco rubio especially, they already expressed mixed feelings. will rex tillerson be confirmed? so, i m going to bet at the end of the day, again i have had conversations with him through the year, bill. this guy is a guy that exudes confidence, calm, strength, leadership. i assume, unless he is going to totally attempt to reorder the world as relates to our relationships, that he will be but again, it is not going to be your normal pro-forma deal. the last two secretaries of state were widely known, relative to their views. rex tillerson highly respected comes to this as a clean slate where no one really understands what those views are. people are going to want to know. i mean, look, putin has not been a friend to the united states. putin has not been a friend to freedom and democracy and western values and cometics. i mean that is just not who he is, and people are going to want to know, and it s accelerated or amplified by the fact that president-elect trump has said some things relative to russia that, let s face it, very different than where we ve been. that alone has sort of amplified people s concerns about secretary of state tillerson but my guess is at end of the day he is confirmed. bill: are there concerns that you have, then? let s that could be a deep hole, sir, and i think you understand that. yeah. so bill, i began this with knowledge that i have tremendous respect for this person. so i began there that he is competent. he s done big things. he has been at the same place for 43 years. he is a great american, okay, he is. so i began there. but i do want to probe these things and i got to believe if gates and condoleeza rice and dick cheney and steve hadley and jim baker, all people that i respect, i got to believe if they re behind him, they know that his view of the world is similar to it theirs and you know, so there is some alignment here. i go into this as chairman, you know, it is going to be a neutral application of the process and, yeah, i ve got some questions that i d like to have answered. everyone else does too. my guess is he will perform well. bill: okay. last question, you will hold hearings on russia and so-called ties to our past election. do you believe moscow tipped the election in donald trump s favor? i have no way of knowing and that is why we re going to have these briefings and hearings, maybe even go a lot deeper. no question it appears they have hacked, bill. sophisticated countries do things to gather intelligence. i mean it used to be almost done by, always done by human beings, human intelligence, we call humint. there are other ways of gathering intelligence and countries do this around the world so should we have our hair on fire that hacking took place? no. i mean that s what happens. but then the question is, i mean we you should protect against it, don t get me wrong. as i said on another program, bill, every time i make a phone call i assume somebody from another country is trying to listen in on that, but what was it they were attempting to do? anytime that someone like putin, an autocrat, can really cause americans to have this discussion or other countries as the integrity of the electoral process, he s winning, he s winning. if he can discredit the integrity of what we do here in the voting process in electing folks, he is winning. and so we do need to get to the bottom of it and understand what it was he was attempting to do. the dni has one view. the cia has a different view. the fbi has a different view and so we as policymakers need to understand what exactly has occurred here. bill: senator, thank you for your time. bob corker out of tennessee in tennessee. thank you, bill. bill: thank you. 21 past. martha. martha: a lot there. so president-elect trump pledged to stop companies from sending jobs overseas. now a major tech company with big announcement today bringing workers back home. we ll tell you who that is. plus he was welcomed into our home as the all-american dad. family and friends now remembering alan thicke after his shocking death at just 69 years old yesterday. we ll be right back. what makes this simple salad the best simple salad ever? 20,000 is that certainly it is within reach. is it sustainable is the question. we ll see what happens on inauguration. a lot of market watchers say, buy the market until at least donald trump gets in there but right now it is all on the expectation that earnings are going to get a real boost as a result of policies he is putting in place, rolling back regulations and lowering taxes. i remember when you and i both were on floor of new york stock exchange and we were celebrating 10,000. martha: 10,000. we re talking about dow 20,000. does 20,000 mean anything? not really. it is just a round number but at the same time it creates an excitement and creating an acknowledgement this is fundamental rally. this is not about noise. this is not about short selling or volume. this is about the fact that things are getting better and they are expected to get better. i told you earlier when we were talking the other day, one of analysts i spoke with expecting earnings to be up 20% as a result of corporate tax rate that pulled down to 15%. martha: yeah. what s good for companies is not always good for jobs. we see an intense amount of automation, robotics going into a lot of these earnings numbers. ibm says 25,000 more jobs. she is part of the advisory committee to donald trump on jobs. they will all talk technology today, right? i think so. it is interesting with a little effort and with the messaging that donald trump has been putting out there, everybody gets into line. so here you have general my romiti going to trump tower today, before she gets there she announces she will create 25,000 jobs. i think it martha: after she gets in the door. put the offer right on the table. you make the right point. it is really skillsets out there. people have jobs openings, but can t find people that actually have skillsets required to fill those jobs. she send couraging donald trump to do more training when it comes to technology. that probably will come up today. martha: initially tech stocks sold off after trump was elected. there was a bitter feeling that he was not favorable to that group, maybe to hardcore manufacturing and rust belt and those folks. how do you think it will go today. they were not favorable to him. entire election they were clearly in hillary clinton s camp. martha: wrote a big check. sketch bezos who owns washington post. said they were folk to put 20 reporters on donald trump because they owe it to readers. they wouldn t put anymore reporters on hillary clinton. tech stocks traded down on the expectation. also because they were not expected to get favorable policies they have been getting under president obama. i want to be a fly in the wall on meeting. they definitely want to have h1b visas. they want cheap labor. hire people overseas give them less for jobs than they would. that is not going to fly for donald trump. martha: apple, for example that would be huge and one of the things that we see, everybody goes in there, seems to come out saying, oh what a great guy. he has great plans. so he is very charming ability to win people over. we ll see how long it lasts. always the question. maria, thank you very much. good stuff. good to see you. bill: from a local campus to you at home. a professor in a major school banning words illegal immigrant. what is behind all of that? the choice for secretary of state getting a mix of praise and caution from congress. you heard from senator bob corker a moment ago. is there a showdown in the offing? what does trump team think about all this? jason miller is on deck live after this. i believe we re in the process of putting together one of the great cabinets. certainly a cabinet with the highest i.q. that anybody has ever, i mean these [cheering] these are seriously great people. you don t let anything keep you sidelined. that s why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing. .what you love. ensure. always be you. of state, rex tillerson, is too cozy with vladmir putin and that should be automatic disqualifier for the job. that is preview of what we get for the confirmation process that lies ahead. senate foreign relations committee will hold a confirmation hearing. chairman bob corker with us a moment ago, here is what he said about tillerson s hearing. putin has not been a friend to the united states. putin has not been a friend to freedom and democracy, and western values and competition. i mean that is just not who he is and people are going to want to flow. it s accelerated, or amplified by the fact that president-elect trump has said some things relative to russia that, let s face it, it is very different than where we ve been and that alone has sort of amplified people s concerns. martha: so what does the trump team have to say about this? jason miller, communications director for the trump transition team. good to see you this morning. good morning. bottom line for rex tillerson does he believe russia is our friend or our enemy? he believes we don t have to come in on day one saying countries are enemy, whether we need to work together to defeat radical islamic terrorism. i had opportunity to speak with him at length and get to know him a little bit. this guy is a world class negotiator. he has gone in and negotiated toughest deals. he has relationships with finance ministers and business leaders all around the world. he worked in almost every theater of this entire planet. when the president-elect met with him, blown away at initial meeting. president-elect thought that mr. tillerson was one of the most impressive people he met through the entire process. he realizes we need someone to advocate for us on world stage. rex tillerson is that person. martha: got it. when you think about the other people they talk to though, bob corcoran included, also mitt romney, mitt romney said russia is the biggest threat to world peace and to our country. and bob cork hears said similar things. he said in that sound bite that he questions where mr. trump comes down on russia. so the basic fundamental question is, does the trump administration believe that vladmir putin is a man of violence who has been behind the slaughtering of hundreds of thousands of people in syria? that he has relationship with iran that is questionable? is that in line with what the trump administration will believe? you re respectfully speaking looking at it through the wrong lens. i think we should be looking at where there are ways to work with other countries to achieve common goals. now does this mean russia is our great ally. not saying that. does it mean they re an enemy from day one? we don t need to walk in on day one immediately start crossing off countries saying they re enemies. martha: but you have to acknowledge the acts that have taken place as a starting point. you know the things that i m bringing up, jason, are just because, this is what is going brought up by john mccain. this is what you guys will hear at senate confirmation hearing from graham, rubio, mccain in the larger process when it gets to a full senate vote, when it gets through committee. these are questions he will have to answer. what we ll see rex tillerson is someone who stood up to vladmir putin and said no. he is someone to martha: how did he do that? in the process of negotiations with specific deals as he was rep ending exxonmobil. obviously mr. tillerson will represent american citizens. bottom line how do we get good results for our country? rex tillerson is someone done that if you ask people around the world what is the reputation of rex tillerson? what do people know him for? he is tough negotiator. i think this is one of the things that the president-elect was really attracted to about rex tillerson. he can go and do that. in a league that martha: i think that is understood. he is obvious hely someone who has a lot of respect out there. when you have condoleeza rice and bob gates and people of that ilk believing in him. jim baker, dick cheney. martha: he knows a lot about russia. but the question in this hearing process everyone understands that as the ceo you have completely different responsibilities. people want to see those deals get done. but as representative of the united states you want to have a good feel whether or not he believes that at its root, putin is somebody who we should or can possibly deal with. somebody who has been very close to assad. someone who has been very close to iran. is that somebody we can negotiate or deal with? well, again the thing that i would say number one thing we need our secretary of state doing advocating for the president-elect s america first foreign policy. mr. trump won with overwhelming number of electoral delegates, biggest number for republican since 1988. people are buying into this america-first foreign policy will we send reps out martha: the question be that america first include alliance with russia, something maybe romney and corker sat down in the same meetings were not going along with? we need to look at different ways to to work with we talk about defeating isis, countries acting in good faith want to defeat isis we should look to do that. that is absolutely silly to cross it off the table? absolutely not. will we stand up and be firm? we ve seen it from the president-elect and seen it from some of his picks, people like rex tillerson. to cross people off we can t work with them to defeat someone like isis talk about overall geopolitical stability of region on the middle east. we re not in this by ourselves. there are a lot of other players. if we can t sit down to have a conversation we re not going anywhere. martha: people point to reagan and gorbachev what they were able to accomplish. gorbachev and putin very, very different people. he obviously needs to have his moment in front of he have one because america doesn t know rex tillerson and you guys have talked to him. so he will get his chance to you know, be presented on the world stage. people will hear from him self. that is very important part. very impressive person. so one who run one of the world s largest companies, over 70,000 employees. he is literally worked in every region of the world. we talk about southeast asia and south america. understands the middle east and security issues. very impressive person. i think people will be really impressed when they start to really get to know rex tillerson. martha: everybody looks forward to that opportunity. thank you very much, jason. good to have you with us today. thanks, martha. what you did do night took rile courage, mike. i admire you. thanks. you sleep on it. good night, dad. good night, mike. thanks, dad. oh! [applause] bill: a lot of us waking up to the sad news a legacy of love and laughter for alan thicke. the veteran actor died yesterday. at age of 69. apparently a heart attack. his tv career spanned five decades. stints as writer and composer and late night host. he was best known of course for playing the dad on the 1980s sit come growing payne. thicke s costar kirk cameron right writings on instagram friday, i spent monday through friday for seven important years with alan thicke as my tv dad. i am shocked at his death. he was kind and loving man. joy anna kearns played his wife. we change ad life-changing friendship. he is survived by his three sons and wife town y the world saying good-bye to actor alan thicke, gone too soon age of 89 years old. martha: 69. bill: 69. very talented. touched a lot of lives here and about everywhere. martha: what a shock. playing basketball with his 19-year-old son. had a heart attack. he is so beloved. our hearts go out to him and his family as well. 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category all its own. hyperbole hurts our cause. i disagree this is democrats doing that. harry reid is only one opinion saying about that elijah cummings, adam schiff, this investigation is bipartisan into what the russians are doing, if they re in our system. not because i think the election outcome is going to change, it is not. we need to know if they were some way tampering. we need to know how much information we have just like china and north korea. a lot of people want our stuff. bill: perhaps i may rewind and remind all of this from two months ago. the commander-in-chief said the following. there is no serious person out there who would suggest somehow that you could even, you could even rig america s elections. and so i would advise mr. trump to stop whining and go try to make his case to get votes. bill: funny how things yeah. what a difference an election makes. but one thing is for sure, we have a cyber problem in america. we are not as diligent as we should be. as a matter of fact, the experts have told us that cyber attacks in america are more threatening now than a nuclear attack. we re not doing the kind of job we should be doing but we shouldn t be using this election as an excuse. bill: what is the proper way to manage that, brad? what we need to do, need in the confirmation hearings of defense officials and intel officials pin them down on what donald trump s position is going to be and policy on cybersecurity. that is the ultimate threat to america, whether it comes from russia or anybody else. but let s not use this election as an excuse. because that s not the real root of our problems in america. it is our national grid. our national defense. i don t disagree with brad. we were talking in the green room about leon panetta s speech he gave the intrepid four years ago he said next warfare front will be cyber. our grid could go. what if all heating in america suddenly goes out during the winter? we have no capability to fix something like that. but in terms of what is going on with the election, this is not just something democrats are concerned b. john mccain, lindsey graham, richard burr. there will be hearings in house and senate of this and can accept the results of election still be concerned and talk about this and talk about the election way russians infiltrated our systems. we know that is possible. we need to be concerned that donald trump s attitude towards the russians and rex tillerson. bill: they re trying to make this whole thing look like it is not legitimate? the election, mandate question. bill: many, many republicans are already, you can t use this as a dog whistle. that s right. bill: to make it seem as if our democracy is on, is falling apart because of it. i think it is very dangerous. hillary clinton lost because of 80,000 vote in three key states. there were mistakes that were made didn t have to do with russians. spend your time in michigan, not in arizona. you win that way if you re a democrat. i think that is what we should be focusing on and refurbishing party in 2018 and 2020, we have great prospects to win seats. bill: irony, podesta, he was hacked and fell with this phishing ex-pa dills. forwarded email so one of his staff. this is legitimate email. john needs to change his password immediately and apparently he did or they did and the result was a wide open door. check your auto correct all the time. bill: brad, that is rich with irony. last word. no question that our systems are you will vulnerable to russians and others but let s not use the election as the dog whistle. we have bigger fish to fry, that is our national security. that is what we should be concentrating on. that is with we should have hearings on, not the result. election. thanks a lot bill. yes, i ll remember. bill: i m sure you will. cool. martha, what is next? martha: the word police are out in force on the campus of usc. controversy on campus. the professor who tries to ban a certain phrase from being used by students when they write their final exams. what s that about? we ll be explaining right in a moment. good to see you this morning. how does she the professor get away with this? doesn t every student have the right to put whatever words they want in their essay on their final exam? well, absolutely they corks but of course that is always at the, there are always at mercy of a professor this kind of situation. that is the danger of having so many progressive in teaching positions students, whether they re conservative, moderate, lean liberal but want to talk about things truthfully, when they can t talk about them with the proper language to describe them, that is when you get this sort of situation. martha: when students push back in these sorts of situations, for instance, if someone were to say well, i believe these individuals broke the law and that makes them illegal immigrants, they would probably not get a good grade i m assuming or get points off for using a phrase that wasn t supposed to be used? presumably not. that is so much of a problem in this day and age with political correctness, with professors using their power over students, demanding that they not use terms like illegal immigrant. this is the sort of thing we see every day at leadership institute of campus reform. this is scary. this is how you get into the situation with fahrenheit 451. you can t talk about things properly. we don t do it for any category of crime. we don t call drug dealers, undocumented pharmacists. we ought to talk about people illegally living in this country illegal immigrants. martha: there is pushback on students on campuses who voted for donald trump, berated by fellow students and ostracized by fellow students. is there any indication what you study and look at all the time in this country this election is going to change any of the sort of things that we re seeing in this email? i think to a certain point but it will be from the students point of view. these are tenured radicals you ve had in universities for years, if not multiple decades. i don t think you are going to see a tremendous shift on part of the professors. the pushback is going to come from students who will no longer be afraid to speak their mind because we have now entered the i think, in a lot of regards, post-political correctness era. students are many about being less and less afraid to say no, this is wrong, this is illegal immigration, not whatever. euphemistic term you want me to use. this is what it is. this is what we ll call it. we ll see what happens next four to eight years on this. martha: i m sure you will. you have given students a voice and a bit of a platform to stick up for their freedom of speech. thank you very much, sterling. we ll see you next time. absolutely. thank you. bill: president-elect trump apparently considering key democrats for some remaining positions not yet determined. what is his position based on? we ll examine in a moment. 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eye on for the cabinet? come on over to america s newsroom. eric: how are you doing? martha: great. bill: looking like a game of chess as president-elect trump stocks his cabinet and his leadership team. two democrats have surfaced in their talks, north dakota senator heidi heidi camp, joe mention, both hold seats in red states that would be at risk if they step down to serve in the administration. martha: thank you, ed henry live in washington, some pressure on both mention and height camp to turn 9 the offer they are getting from the trump administration. senate democrats are scrambling in the building behind me behind the scenes to make sure neither of these democrats wind up in the trump cabinet. joe mention swan west virginia, a republican leaning state even though he is a democrat, state carried by donald trump and he was up for secretary of energy, he did not get it, rick perry being nominated instead. but heightcamp also from a red state is up for secretary of agriculture, that had not been announced by donald trump in the mix for that, someone behind closed doors to talk to trump and the point is is it good to reach across the aisle, have a democrat or two in the cabinet to show you are bipartisan but this is truly, the reason senate democrats are scrambling, they are worried if she says yes and becomes agriculture secretary that makes it hard for democrats to keep that seat in democratic hands, likely to go republican and donald trump not just getting an agriculture secretary but another republican vote in the senate for his nomination, his agenda like tax cuts and that is why this is multidimensional chess, not just about cabinet picks. martha: you have to wonder what the democrats are able to offer these two senators that is more enticing than a spot in the president s cabinet. reporter: it could be a committee post like the appropriations committee which oversees all federal spending, a seat on the finance committee which oversees all tax policies, that is very powerful also, putting together what is going to be the new version of obamacare, healthcare, could be something like that or leadership post, all kinds of things. here is something else to watch as we put together a list of all the democrats up for election in 2018 in the senate and in state carried by donald trump. the point is these are 10 democrats who could be very vulnerable because in some cases, michigan for example, donald trump barely won that state. it was a surprise. there were other states where he carried it big like west virginia. estate like florida will be interesting for bill nelson who is up for reelection. who else is on this list? heidi height camp from north dakota. that is part of her calculation as well which is if i don t take this cabinet post and i listen to the democrats pressuring me to tell president know, i might face a really hard reelection battle and lose my seat anyway in north dakota. martha: thank you, good to see you. with more on this is senior editor of the national review and fox news contributor, thanks for coming in today. what do you make of that? brilliant and important for the trump campaign to take some democratic senators off the table. there margin in the senate is really narrow. we saw this with the tillerson nomination but you have 52 republican senators everybody gets to pretend i am the crucial 51st vote giving everybody leverage was the more you can pass that lead to the republicans the more the white house has leverage over senators rather than senators having leverage over the white house but we do see this every administration where they try, there is a tradition of picking someone from the other party for one cabinet position. i also think this isn t just about cabinet picks. it is not entirely just about senators. it is about the image of the parties. one of the reasons why a lot of conservative democrat switched over and became republicans under reagan was the images of the party changed and we are seeing that again right now so you are seeing someone like joe mention, his state is essentially a republican state. is a popular lagging behind the trend conservative democrat. martha: a lot of people thought he might cross over. like jim jeffers had done. so the image the republican party is now the home of politicians like joe mention or heitkamp is terrible for the democrats, they are having an identity crisis, we are just blue state lobbyists from san francisco and new york, they can start hemorrhaging all of their blue-collar martha: someone from west virginia and north dakota in the heartland. when president obama tried to get judd gregg to come into his cabinet and greg said yes, former senator from new hampshire getting a feel for what the economic plan was. i can t back this, can t do it, and left. it is tough to do but perhaps admirable to ring these people in and crafty politically. something i forgot about was in this moment everyone is accusing the other side of being paranoid the reason greg s nomination got killed was democrats were terrified a republican might be in charge of the census and that would steal the election. the idea that this is something new to this moment is not quite right. martha: good to see you. bill: we are watching to see who walks through that door next. it will be a who s who of technology leaders from companies including amazon and apple, microsoft and google, facebook and tesla, big hitters in that crowd. big corporate names from general motors, jpmorgan, disney, walmart, pepsi, boeing, general electric. last night in wisconsin paul ryan patched up months of bad blood taking the stage with mister trump, very interesting rally. the latest stop on his thank you tour where mister trump focus on putting americans back to work, here is part of that. my administration will be focused on three very important words. jobs, jobs, jobs. it is time to help get americans off of welfare and back into the labor market. rebuilding this country with american hands with american workers. my administration will follow two simple rules. by american and hire american. from now on it is going to be america first. america first. bill: mister trump defending his choice for state department, rex tillerson and he will nominate rick perry for secretary of energy. several reports out today saying mister trump is expected to choose montana republican ryan zinc read to be interior secretary, he has a background as a navy seal and more. all this petrus that is pieces on the portraits are filling in day by day. martha: he called paul ryan and joe in yes last night. if he doesn t agree with me he will be in trouble, we are going to build a wall, paul. we will see how that goes. great buddies on that stage. bill: change is for now. fox news alert. but five your syrian cease-fire collapsing in the last holdout in that country may be lost to syrian forces. bombs raining down, remaining rebel held areas of eastern aleppo just one day after a deal brokered by russia and turkey would have allowed trapped civilians and rebels to evacuate. john huddy is watching this live. good day. syrian president bashar al-assad said the cease-fire was meant to, quote, save the terrorists and block forces from getting into the rest of eastern aleppo and taking control of all of aleppo but a cease-fire is the aim of that, to get thousands of residents out and pay of the way, open the way for bashar al-assad s forces to get in. now there is the finger pointing back and forth about who is to blame for the failed cease-fire. it was brokered by turkey and russia, announced last night and fell apart this morning when it resumed and an estimated 50,000 civilians remained trapped in a small pocket of eastern aleppo, rebel controlled arrows and opposed to shuttle out about 15,000 people and 4000 rebel fighters and their families were stopped or turned around so you have these people that are basically stuck on the eastern edges of the eastern part of the city, a deadly claim game of politics as the story continues. martha: new questions on democrats putting pressure on the electoral college to change their votes which they do on december 19th. is there an attempt to subvert our elect oral outcome? not talking about russia. we will debate that fair and balanced coming up. bill: will rex tillerson be confirmed as secretary of state, remaining to be convinced. senator rand paul might be one of them. mister trump from last night again in wisconsin. rex is friendly with many of the leaders in the world we don t get along with and some people don t like that. they don t want him that is why i m doing the deal with rex because i like what this is all about. like all standardized medicare supplement insurance plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn t pay. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. to me, relationships matter. i ve been with my doctor for 12 years. now i know i ll be able to stick with 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it is absurd, a part of democrats to continue to not surrender. there are 538 people picked by american voters to cast their votes and so far the way this works is they go on next monday to the state capital in 50 states plus the district of columbia and cast a vote directed by the public in each state am a very clear that trump has had a big victory there and there is no defection. the idea that you will take 538 people and give them a national security briefing over the weekend, something that is an absurd challenge at this point makes no sense to me and it is purely partisan crybaby as far as i m concerned. martha: what do you think? i don t think there is going to be a chance of anything like this happening. they don t get security clearances, but the bigger reason is only one republican elector has signed a letter asking for this briefing. they have a right to ask for the briefing but i don t think it is going to happen and nothing like this ever gathers any steam unless the winning party, donald trump s party actually starts to see people, those electors make the call. nancy pelosi s daughter martha: sorry to interrupt. everyone feels it will not change the outcome of the election but the fact that john podesta is leaning into the saying we support this, it is similar to what we saw from the hillary camp in the recount. everyone knew that was not going to go anywhere as well but the clinton camp came out and ted we support it, we are open to you guys doing this. why not take the high road at this point? we need republican electors to ask for this and i don t see how john podesta or the clinton campaign leaning in helps to have that happen so i don t think i agree with ed, this is not something that will go very far. it is a separate question from should bipartisan committees in congress look into what the russians were doing? that, i think is legitimate and the electors have the right to ask this. i just don t think, every democratic elector can ask for this even if they got the briefing or thought there was something there, doesn t change anything if republican electors all vote the way they are supposed to. martha: the hysteria over foreign cyberattacks is interesting in the journal touches on this given the point where this is, liberated during the obama years but the president never held any national government accountable even when officials fingered the russians this summer for hacks of the dnc mister obama did nothing but wag a finger. we had 58 election since 1789. every four years we have an election, someone wins, someone loses, some president are great, some are okay, that is part of the process is the electoral process was set up, we are not a democracy, we are republic, guided by the voters who have spoken in these states that at the end of the day, mrs. clinton and her team ought to simply say election is over, thanks for those who voted for us, she wants a voice in american politics again she can, but she s not an elected official. martha: we are concerned about hacking and everyone should be on a broader level, that should be a bipartisan effort and can t come and go at the women s of elections you win or don t win. that is all true but the other side is the electoral college as the founders set it up as a deliberative body. they are allowed to make a decision within the realm of the top two or three candidates who should win this thing. they have a right to ask for the briefing. i just don t think it is going to change anything or they are going to get it. if this electoral college is not a deliberative body than let s get rid of the electors, not talking about getting rid of the electoral college but let s get rid of the electors. you and i both know, you have been around the game a long time. the electors are picked just like nancy pelosi. political people who are picked by the candidates and pledged to vote how voters direct them. we have been in a lot of agreement. martha: good to have you both, see you next time. bill: members of the media going nuclear over russia, phrases like national emergency, calls to throw out the election. is it just over the top? howard kurtz will cover the coverage in a moment. martha: a heartbreaking situation unfolding in syria, many are just waking up to what is going on and it is being called a meltdown of humanity. everyone who can hear me we are here exposed to a genocide. this may be my last video. more than 15,000 civilians who rebelled against the dictator assad are dying under bombings. process into question. howard kurtz is going to be very busy, host of media buzz. what is your sense about the russian hearings? why don t we start there and ask the following question? how serious, how legitimate is that particular question? all the questions surrounding russia demand serious journalistic scrutiny. you have a new president who wants to have warmer relations with moscow, the whole cyberhacking disaster which although the media helped turn it into a partisan slugfest is basically an assault on our democracy, the new secretary of state rex tillerson is a friend of letter book, sanctions imposed after the russian incursion of ukraine, will those be lifted? that is serious business. martha: is there a media freak out? it strikes me this is the only thing people are writing about. at the very least it seems to be a joy they heart freak out. forgive me if i don t take my foreign-policy from joy behar. a liberal comedian who cannot stand donald trump. last week she was saying the president-elect suffers from mental illness, now she is saying do we have to wait until we re living under the hammer and sickle? it led in unfunny directions but she is one example of a lot of journalists who in the media establishment who don t like the president-elect s new approach. there is a sort of hard-line default position that you have in the mccain lindsey graham wing of the gop among some democrats and among many in the media who are looking askance at the fact that donald trump said openly during the campaign he doesn t see why russia has to be our comparison. bill: trump is a different man, he took on the cia this past weekend but the more it is written about, the more it is talked about do you find in your experience they drag the american public with them along with the story? or not? an interesting question. i think the american public has next feelings. a lot of concern about russia and its aggressive posture on the world stage. at the same time, trump made no secret of this, we got along better with russia maybe russia could help us in other areas of the world like syria and the middle east, foreign-policy experts are wary of that approach but it does seem to me that i think trump went a little too far in being dismissive of the cia on the leaks, cyberhacking and stuff about the election. he took it is trying to undermine his legitimacy as president but i don t think anybody seriously thinks that hacking, terrible as it was was responsible for donald trump winning the election. he won it fair and square but talking about these are the same people who brought the don hussein s wmd, he said himself at odds with the intelligence community but at the same time this is probably the most important foreign policy issue. with everything else trump is going to do things differently. anybody gets used to that the public better get used to it. bill: a data point we will remember. thank you so much. covering the coverage, thanks. martha: donald trump said repealing obamacare is job number one when he gets to the white house, democrats think it will not happen. who is right? will republican support the choice for secretary of state. we will talk to senator rand paul about that and more next. majority leader mitch mcconnell and so many more and people are looking at this resume and honestly they have never seen a resume like this before. rex will be a fierce advocate for america s interests around the world and has the insights to help, years of foreign policy blunders and disasters. the outline for a fight in the senate taking place with president-elect trump defending his choice for secretary of state. many democrats will oppose rex to listen and some republicans raising questions about his connections to vladimir putin in russia. senator rand paul serves in homeland security foreign relations committee, how are you doing? good morning and thank you for coming back. in the end yes. there will be some questions. hearings are good. we are supposed to give advice and consent and there will be hearings and we talk a lot about this. it is unfair to prejudge mister tillerson and think because he had good relations in making deals around the world that that somehow makes him an unfit candidate. it may be the opposite. having good relations with world leaders and being able to negotiate with them is what you want in your chief diplomat. bill: did marco rubio go too far? he had concerns about the nominee. people prejudged he got an award from russia, therefore his chief interest would be russia. i presume his chief interest will be america and i wouldn t prejudge someone s patriotism or support of america by saying they have divided interests. when he worked for his company his first interest was making money and that is his job. you are by bob bound to make money for your company but making deals that are good. interesting thing about the business world is and you make a deal with another country or another individual both parties have to believe they made a good deal, both parties gained the transaction, diplomacy is the same way. if you are negotiating the end of a war both sides have to save face with even the losing party has to feel this is the best outcome to make this deal. negotiation is real hard and we shouldn t prejudge tillerson before we hear more from him. bill: is he confirmed or not? likely yes. bill: nancy pelosi thinks i don t think they, republicans, will repeal the affordable care act meaning obamacare. is she right or not? she is dead wrong. we will repeal obamacare, we promised the american people, if we do nothing, it is unraveling before our eyes, it isn t working, isn t helping the people intended to help. if you were poor in america the price of your insurance is rising, obamacare has high deductibles. it isn t working for anyone in the country. more choices, more competition and lower prices. it is not a political position but economic reality. economic reality is the government doesn t do a good job beating the mail, you don t have a profit motive, and they get government has much of healthcare as we can it replace with the marketplace. competition and lower prices. you are going to be busy. tell our audience about new congress. and get through. the number one thing president trump could do and republican congress could do is repeal regulations that are killing jobs. president obama made this by executive order and regulatory order, president trump can undo it on day one. we can repeal by law with a simple majority and sends to president trump s desk. these job killing regulations once they are gone allow the economy to be growing again. taxes on businesses and individuals, american companies are leaving and going abroad because taxes are lower. if we fix that more companies will stay here and more jobs will be created. bill: regulations one and taxes one a. your relationship with him was rather curious during the primary campaign. how would you characterize it now? we had our moments but i have thick skin. i don t agree with president-elect on everything but when i do i am happy to be supportive. i try to be a happy warrior even with president obama. i didn t agree with 90% of what he was for but the 10% i did agree with him on i was happy to say publicly, criminal justice reform, other things i agree with president obama on. i will do the same with trump but i agree more with president trump then president obama. bill: when you are walking down the street and someone talk to any restaurant and say how is this going to work out, how do you phrase what you believe president trump will be as commander-in-chief? very optimistic particularly on foreign-policy. he is now saying he doesn t want to build nations overseas but rebuild our country here. i agree completely with that. he doesn t believe in regime change, he thinks the iraq or was a mistake, a lot of things i agree with president trump on and on those i will be as helpful as i can. bill: that is a long way from des moines, iowa. rand paul from kentucky to washington dc, thank you. federal authority is wrapping up their investigation into the deadly warehouse fire that killed 36 people in california. fire officials admitting they never inspected the ship as the building was no despite police and city officials receiving several complaints. national correspondent william lodging us with more on this continuing investigation. building inspectors dropped the ball by never thwarting those complaints to the fire department especially the fire department is not even required to inspect commercial buildings unless there is a change in use. the landlord never told the city she converted the warehouse to an illegal apartment building the city never inspected. ironically there was a fire station 500 feet away. firefighters and city councilman admit the city new people were living there illegally but looked the other way. we have no record of 131531st avenue being inspected, nor do we have any records of them applying for a special permit, change of occupancy, any tenant improvements. many called for the mayor and others like the fire chief to resign but none so far. in terms of the cause is there any new information how that started? the atf ruled out arson and faulty refrigerator. the focus is on overloaded electrical circuit. 2010 it s hench a hole in the wall of the neighboring building and were sucking power through a single extension cord that may have shorted and caused a fire. the da is investigating the owner and building manager for their liability. we will work diligently. we will be methodical and thorough in bringing this case to justice. reporter: the landlord owned several buildings according to chronicle, she showed up with a monthly check with the managers say they told her about bad wiring, she refused to fix it, potential charges from murder to involuntary manslaughter. bill: we will hear about that story for a long time. the world getting a glint of the situation, grim situation in syria through civilian tweets and videos from inside the war zone. it is heartbreaking. how did we get five years down the road in a brutal civil war? a red line for us is we start saying a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around being mobilized, that would change my calculus. bill: abortions after 20 weeks illegal in ohio, john k-6 signing off the band. ohio the 16th state to limit abortions after 20 weeks, lawmakers in congress expected to push for similar bill next year. john k-6 vetoed a so-called heartbeat bill which would have banned abortions after six weeks into pregnancy. to everyone who can hear me we are here exposed to a genocide in the city of aleppo. this may the my last video is more than 50,000 civilians who rebelled against the dictator assad are threatened with execution or dying in the bombing. stand with aleppo. impassioned pleas for help from syria making their way to social media, the latest attempt at a cease-fire has unraveled, the bombing continues to hammer the rebel held areas where there are anywhere from 50 to 100,000 civilians who are still stuck in the eastern part of aleppo. no way to verify independently these videos or eights, you can see them across the internet but they appear to match up with some of the situations in terms of what we are hearing, a young girl said to be trapped in the war-torn city has been well known. life tweet from an account she shares with her mother, just one of those today from the mother of this 7-year-old girl. dear world, there is intense bombing right now. why are you silent? fear is killing me, retired air force lieutenant general tom mcinerney, military analyst, joins us now. what a tragedy this has been. the worst in the 21st century, any person watching the news would agree. it is an absolute disaster. the russians, iranians, the turks have taken advantage of the situation between our governments, caretaker government going on right now, so that is what has happened. they made decisive moves. i want to play the soundbite from hillary clinton who was secretary of state, watch this. president obama called on assad to step aside and announced the strongest set of sanctions to the syrian government. for the sake of the syrian people the time has come for him to step aside and lead the transition to syrians themselves. martha: that was four years ago. they left it to the syrians themselves and the russian the year and a half ago, entered the fight, the president locked them and they are play a dominant role. we have focused in all fairness re-occupying western iraq, mosul and working against syria, rocco, where isis is. they worked against the rebels and is human tragedy, the greatest in the 21st century so far. how is the trump administration going to fix it. martha: there are hundreds of thousands of people who have been killed and millions displaced, the ripple across europe that has been untenable, the silence inom this administration, what people answer for, in the years to come in terms of why they were not able to do more to support moderate rebels at the point it might have made it difference was the man being considered for the next job as secretary of state, rex tillerson. your thoughts on whether he is the right person to step into these shoes. this may be a perfect storm. rex patty: has global knowledge of all world leaders, they know him. he is going to work with the russians, their key into it as well as iranians and other middle eastern leaders. it is an extremely difficult position to be put in right away. i am encouraged that president-elect trump selected the right person to solve this complex problem and it is complex. it won t go back together. we envisioned it 9 years ago the way the world was in the middle east. that world won t go back together but russia is involved with it, the shia crescent swept across the whole saudi arabian peninsula, from to run into aleppo, in damascus, that road is the road the lines of communication the iranians, the danger this administration left, the shia crescent across the arabian peninsula, very dangerous, we cannot let that continue. and alliance between putin and assad and it will be a tall order to realign allegiances, big job and i see you believe rex tillerson is after the job. thank you very much for weighing in. generally coming up, quick preview. a big meeting at trump tower with the biggest names in pics for trump s cabinet. there has been so much critics are making of the middle of friendship. we will speak to another american, get the story from him and meet an adorable toddler. he did come face-to-face with the lion address for the location. we won t talk to the toddler. we are seeing the prosecution s case against bill cosby, and sexually assaulting a woman in 2004. with the pretrial movement, revealing about this. will they be able to testify? the defense is turning its argument, prosecution completed his argument. there has been a lot more plain than yesterday, turned into a shouting match inside the courtroom, got pretty ugly and there. gloria allrate is defending 10 of 13 women accusing bill cosby, 13 of the 50 or more that made accusations since the case was brought up. i said how critical are these 13 women to this case? she told me this is very important. bringing them into this trial makes it more than that he said she said argument which gives the prosecution a lot more leverage and could mean a victory in this case. is the most important hearing we have seen. bill cosby 79 years old walking into court today arriving a little before 9:00 looking healthier, was asked how are you, he said i m fine, thank you, charged with giving andrea constance quaaludes at his home in 2004 and having sex with her, considered him a mentor. they stopped tried to stop something that happened last week, there was a motion to allow recordings of bill cosby s deposition from the civil trial in 2040, those statements bill cosby made a going to be allowed in this case. outside the courthouse in montgomery county. titans of business and technology. it is tech day. entertainment day yesterday but today is tech day. they will be with president-elect as he finishes filling in his cabinet posts. the latest pics straight ahead. . . . . . when i started 15 months ago, i told my first crowd in wisconsin that we are going to come back here some day and we
organize. howard dean presided over the party at a time it did quite well, and the strategy he had was that they needed to compete in all 50 he was suggesting that the tens of thousands that you ve been seeing right now live out on the streets expressing their first amendment right to free speech and peaceful assembly, they re quote professional protesters that are part of a plot and that their presence can be blamed on the media. no less than the man who will soon be the most powerful person in the world assailing both the pregs of freedom of assembly and that constitutionally protected activity. the tweets at the top of the feed for all to see until this morning when he followed up with this, love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. we will all come together and be proud. joining me now filmmaker michael moore whose new film is michael moore in trumpland. you ve been monitoring the protests. they ve been quite organic. i was in a cab going to a documentary meeting. all the traffic stopped, what s going on? there s a protest out there. talking, turn the tv off, hit record, then turn it off and go out. and if it s not happening in your neighborhood, make it happen. call up some friends or neighbors. this will go on all night tonight. we ve seen a reinvigoration in street protests with the obama administration. the black lives matter movement, some of the direct action that s been done on the environmental front particularly the dapl and dakota access pipeline where there s been a standoff, an incredibly brave showing of nonviolent force. where do you see that going? because it seems to me this is an expression of certain segments of society saying we do not approve of the rhetoric you ve used or the plans that are laid out and we don t approve of our fellow citizens is being targeted. how does that build power, to your mind? first of all, this is going to grow larger than anything that we ve seen in recent memory. we can t keep this going. i m just encouraging people right now, it s okay to operate on your raw energy and emotion because our voices must be her. look at trump s tweet you just showed. he s talking about just had a great presidential election and now these protesters are out here. very unfair. very unfair. you know that he s rattled already? i mean, this should be the happiest week of his life and he s up, oh! it s a remarkable thing. people all across the ideological spectrum were taken aback by the tweet all protesters be honored by this that already the thin-skinned donald trump. imagine what happens when the crowds double tonight and triple tomorrow night. because that s what s going to happen. what about people who say what you are advocating will only raise the temperature and heighten the country that is a polarized and frankly dangerous place? no. you don t think the country s both major party candidates, opposed by trump and hillary clinton voted for by no one and he s talking about it as if it s a thing. those first hundred days? how about the first ten days? capitol hill will look like a marx brothers moving where they ll be whipping, who has got a bill, zing. who has a bill? zing. all those in favor, ding. and liberals will be like, whoa, wait a minute. wait, that s not fair. you know? yeah. get the game face on, everybody now. because they are deadly serious about this. and it will be years before we undo the damage of their first ten days. so quickly, remember clinton won the popular vote which you mentioned is number five on your list. never forget that. there are four more. take over the democratic party. yes, immediately. remove them all. fire pundits who won t acknowledge reality. i see the desk is mostly empty here tonight. thank you, chris. thank you for sparing me your purge. dems in congress who won t fight must go. that s what the tea party did. don t forget. it wasn t go after democrats. it did in terms of it showed up at the town hall. but first thing they did was primary republicans. at the spring break for congress, this coming spring, we are town halling these democrats and if they are not standing in front of trump and blocking his nominations to the supreme court, if they are not committed to a filibuster, we re going to put them on notice that we re going to primary them in two years and bring candidates that are going to win. i personally am going to be part of that process to make that happen. stop saying you re stunned. well, white people say they re stunned because, you know, i didn t see this coming. if you re black or hispanic, you know, if you re gay, if you ve suffered under the oppressiveness of this system, you are not surprised by donald trump from day one. and when you heard him say on day one that mexicans were rapists and murderers, you knewite right then that there was trouble and there would be hell to pay. the train was coming. the train was coming. we ve got video of atlanta where people are assembling peacefully for protests to express their opposition to the president-elect of the united states donald j. trump. michael moore, thank you for being with me. thank you, chris. you know, come on out, too, this weekend. i mean, i know we have to be a journalist and all that, but you re also a citizen of this country. i m a citizen. and in a democracy, that means you re an activist. up next, the great rachel maddow joins me to talk about the massive conflicts in donald trump s transition team as the trump presidency approaches. that s after the break. later my exclusive interview with gold star father khizr khan on the trump election. coaching means making tough choices. jim! you re in! but when you have high blood pressure and need cold medicine that works fast, the choice is simple. coricidin hbp is the only brand that gives powerful cold symptom relief without raising your blood pressure. coricidin hbp. appointments are trump s three oldest children. first of all, the transition team is a government entity complete with a dot-gov website and we have laws in this country about nepotism hiring. on top of that there s the fact that trump s kids are supposed to be taking over the family business in a so-called blind trust, although it s not going to be. set up to avoid conflicts of interest with the white house. according to a trump organization spokesperson, we are in the process of vetting various structures with the goal of immediate transfer of management of the trump organization its portfolio businesses to donald jr. ivanka and eric trump along with a team of highly skilled executives. i wanted to talk to you because we get so much coverage of the clinton foundation which was the story went essentially a slush fund whereby people would donate to curry favor with the secretary of state or the future president of the united states. we re now having a situation in which this business enterprise, which has no public disclosures because it s privately held, run by the children of the sitting president, they will choose the people that staff the government like for instance the irs. yeah. they re in that incredibly active, you know, kinetic role in terms of deciding who is going to be in the government. also once the transition is over, even if he doesn t give them jobs in the government, the plan is they ll be running, continuing to run his family business empire. the whole idea of a blind trust is that the president is supposed to literally be unable to act using government policy in order to enrich himself or enrich herself because the trust is blind. the president doesn t know what investments he or she has, doesn t know whether or not something that he s doing in the u.s. government will enrich him. in this case it s not like people think he won t speak to his children and he ll be in a position to advice them, to change things about the company s plans in order to account for information that highway has specifically because he s president and there s no way that any of us will ever know that. it is a brick wall of a conflict of interest even after this transition. and just to play this out a little bit more, right, a company that s seeking regulatory favors from the trump administration could offer ivanka a discount equity stake for the trump portfolio and there s no disclosure i mean, that s an entirely feasible thing that could happen in the united states starting january 20th. and how would we know? how would we know when that is happening? we have no transparency here other than what the president will choose to disclose and i can t imagine he s going to disclose anything if he s calling this a blind trust, for example. the thing that is stunning to me about this is that this evolves directly from his refusal to release his tax returns. which he got away with. he got away with it. everybody said that wasn t a law. that s just a norm in our politics. and i guess that norm is broken now. i can see why you wouldn t want to disclose his tax returns. it s an invasion of his financial privacy and all that stuff. but then once your president, are you still not going to release your tax returns? will you still not tell us about your financial entanglements? we re worried that you re going to use the power of the united states to enrich yourself and in fact on day one they already did. because on his first dot-gov web presence, he s listing his trump properties. he s listing literally the name of his wife s qvc shopping channel jewelry line on his dot-gov website. they re already using the resources of the government to enrich themselves while still not disclosing any of their other financial ties. it s mind boggling. this segues into the role of the media in all this. because this is going to require called for british-style libel laws in this country which is a way in other countries that don t have a first amendment, they bankrupt reporters, they put publications out of business. they can keep people in fear of reporting on public officials in a way that you previously haven t been able to do in this country. so to bring on peter thiel, this billionaire who is most famous in american life not for the source of his wealth but because he used it to bankrupt and put out of business an online web source that he didn t like because of the way they reported on him, all of those things together, i think it s a reasonable distraction for the press to have right now in terms of how the press will play defense in terms of its own role. in terms of our stance toward trump, one of the things that will be hard is just maintaining the level of newsiness, right? right. of outrage and continuing rejection of stuff that isn t okay, although he s been doing it for a long time by the time we get around to reporting. i found out talking with you last night and you were on air with that great, fascinating, elizabeth warren interview, when he tweeted, just had a very open and successful presidential election now professional protesters incited by the media are prosting. very unfair. i was on air earlier showing protests. because we ve covered protests. we ve covered all sorts of protests over the years. that s aimed at me. that s a warning shot of the president-elect of the united states to folks who are doing their constitutionally protected and in fact civically sacred duty of reporting and free expression. i just wondered how you reacted to that? it is first of all, to call them professional protesters implies that they re being paid. so he s alleging a conspiracy. he s looking at those people in the street and alleging that he s a paid conspiracy of elites against him. it s a very short bridge from that for him to be then telling his supporters this is a paid conspiracy in the streets. that s against the american people because you chose me as your leader. this is some sort of fifth column within the country. when you look at other countries and the way that they respond to dissent, and how they characterize what it means to protest against them as a threat that other citizens must respond to or they ask for their own supporters to get into the street and wage battles with them, it starts with characterizing protests as the product of a conspiracy. it s the way it happens. it usually happens in other languages. we re not used to it happening in this country. but that s a strongman style response to dissent the world over. he s already as of last night already taken the first step town that road in the way they all do it. and they all do it the same way. i just feel a lot of international echoes. i worry mostly about donald trump, not about whether or not he s going to be able to pull off the things he s threatened to do. the thing i worry about the most, is how he ll behave the first time he doesn t get what he wants, the first time he tried to do something and he can t do it. what s he do when he s mad? he hasn t done well when he s angry or stymied in his time as a politician. it makes the job of reporters i think in this era and not to sound grandiose, but i think it s the most important it s been in the american republic and i don t think that s a crazy hyperbolic thing to say. chris, saying it that way, but there s also a real threat. we ve seen over the course of our time in journalism and our time in tv, we ve seen the strain on local papers, local reporters, beat reporters, to, people working as anchors at local tv stations are getting paid $19,000 a year and working at three other jobs. we talked to two other papers who broke the bridgegate scandal and the political component of the bridgegate scandal. we saw both of those news desks get gutted by their parent company because the biz model isn t there. there s such pressure on those just having jobs doing this. and if we re going to become convenient political targets in the way that trump is already signaling, we re going to have to have a defensive strategy in mind and the country is going to have to decide in a broader way how we re going to protect journalism in the same way we all are thinking about how we re going to protect muslim americans and these kids that came out and let themselves be known as undocumented dreamers because of president obama s proposal who are now under deportation by donald trump and he said on day one. we ve got specific things that were threatened in new ways that weren t necessarily and we need a national defense for those if those communities really need us. that s extremely well put. rachel maddow, my good, good friend, my comrade, my buddy. chris, will you come on my show on monday? yes, let s keep doing this. will do. thanks, my friend. still to come, the next fight for democrats, finding a leader for a party in crisis. believe we lost this election in the last week, comey s letter in the last 11 days helped depress our turnout and drove away some of the critical support from college educated white voters particularly in the suburbs. his second letter intended to absolve hillary clinton actually helped to bowleser trump s turnout. exit polls indicate that voters who decided who they were voting for more than a week before the election supported clinton. voters who decided in the last week broke for trump by a larger margin. these numbers were even more exaggerated in the key battleground states. when you lose an election effectively by 110,000 votes across three states you can point to 10,000 things that were decisive. but it s hard not to focus on the last shot. and the last shot in this election came from james comey. now that s happened and in the past so for democrats trying to figure out where they can go differently going forward, they need to look back at the whole game. a democrat who ran a great campaign but still lost joins me to talk about that next. if you have moderate to severe ulcerative colitis or crohn s, and your symptoms have left you with the same view, it may be 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wing one of only a handful of democratic members of congress to endorse bernie sanders during the primary says he ll make an announcement monday about whether he ll be an official candidate. he has the backing of bernie sanders and somewhat surprisingly, the backing of chuck schumer who is set to become the minority leader in the senate. joining me another democrat who ran for congress and progressive in the mold of bernie sanders and lost on tuesday. good to have you here. great the be on. so you re in a district, you re a sanders person yep. you fought an new jersey the governor. the governor, right. then you ran in this race. yes. you were endorsed by bernie sanders. i m an fdr democrat. you re an fdr democrat. we ve got hyde park in our district. i actually think it s a time for a return to some fdr democratic principles. one of the thins that is so relevant right now, fdr, this is a sitting president, said that we had to take on these princes who want to take over our politics and that we had to wake up to economic and political tyranny. and fdr said just as the minutemen fought political tyranny, we have to fight economic tyranny. i think we need a little more of that spirit in our democratic party. a willingness to take on the princes of wall street. a willingness to take on the elite financiers and say, no, we re standing up for working men and women. here s my question for you. your district was one of these classic districts that we re now studying, right? it was six point obama won by six points four years ago. it looks like the numbers will shake out but looks like trump won by ten or more points. that s an enormous swing. yeah, yeah. did you see it on the ground when you were campaigning? did you feel the wave coming? you could. the anger was everywhere. so again, like democrats didn t necessarily turn out and then surprising people turned out. but the big thing that i felt is this incredible anger at elites, at wall street, at the establishment, you know, people who harry saying, wait, it s not getting better for us. don t tell us it s getting better for us because it s not getting better for us. where are our jobs? where are our union jobs? one of the things that democrats have to do is be fighting for unions not just in election years but all the time. do you feel your district is a largely white district majority white. not like a big urban like 90%. 90% white. there s a question about how racialized this all was. a lot of people looking at trump and they re seeing a guy had has said these explicitly bigoted things about all these different groups and they re scratching their head that white people voted for him. you re going to hear all kinds of different reasons. you were just saying there s 25 different reasons for every loss. yeah. and 25 reasons for every win. but i ll tell you when i talked to people around our district, the anger i felt was more an anger about real basic things like water and job. water? water s a big issue in the hudson valley and people wanting to protect wer. then flint, we have our own flint in husic falls. and just not being able to trust that you can turn on the water. i guess it would say a deep lack of trust that political elites were really paying attention. so then my question to you and i know this is a hard thing to ask because you just ran a race and you lost and it doesn t feel good to lose, but in some ways there s this theory that s emerging that the sanders message is the message to win back those folks. economic populism, what you re talking about, you ran on that message in that district and it didn t work. look, every race down ballot is different. we did slightly outperform top of the ticket. you did. but honestly in my own race, the other thing that was at play and this is really important and i think has been hidden. completely, yes. in the trump story is the dark money that came out. the dark money that came into congressional races. so we re six years in to citizens united land. and i felt like i was living in citizens united land. i was theoretically running against john faso my opponent. but i was running against super pac money. more than my opponent ever raised. it just flooded in. it just flooded in. two guys mark singer and robert mercer who spent well over 500,000 in my race. and his pac was putting in $50,000 on the last day. that that s happening in my district, that s happening all around the country. we need to do a dark money postmortem because you re right that the top of the ticket because the money was so unique there, people lost sight of what happened down ballot. but it s part of the anger. zephyr teachout, thank you for joining us. still to come, my interview with gold star father khizr khan on this veterans day. plus an important thing 1, thing 2, seriously. social media and especially facebook. now all in noticed a prime example of that this week, a facebook comment citing a supposed hillary clinton e-mail with a 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[whistle] [dance music playing] [record scratch] announcer: don t let salmonella get funky with your chicken. on average, one in 6 americans will get a foodborne illness this year. you can t see these microbes, t they might be there. so, learn the right temperature to cook each type of meat. keep your family safe at foodsafety.gov. president obama called for unity at arlington in honor of this veterans day. it will be president donald trump honoring veterans day. a man who mocked p.o.w.s and attacked the family of a fallen soldier. joining me is the father of that soldier, khizr khan. thank you for your time tonight. i want to start by asking your feelings having watched this man who did attack your family and sort of cast aspersions on your faith, frankly, be elected to serve as president and commander of chief of men and women like your son? chris, before i answer your question, first, i want to pay tribute to all gold star families and all brave men and women that have sacrificed in defense of this country values of this country, democracy of this country and all men and women of our armed forces, we extend our sincere thanks for standing up to the values of this country. i want to add briefly that whenever we go to pay our respect and visit to captain humayun khan, alongside in the same section of arlington cemetery where there are other brave soldiers but there are four other muslim soldiers that are buried that were killed in iraq or afghanistan and their names are major thomas heron, specialist rasheed khan, sergeant amman taha, sergeant amon and humayun khan. these are brave soldiers buried in second 60. my very sincere and my really humble request to this president-elect is that he must, he must take first step towards the reconciliation. my journey continues to speak about the values of this country, the constitution of this country. we are told after watching this candidate, after watching this president-elect for a year and a half of his bigotry, of his statements of demeaning women, his statements of misogyny, his statement racial statements towards muslims and other ethnicities, we are told on wednesday by our leadership that we must come together and we must accept him as our leader. wait a minute. it does not work that way. for a successful candidate, it is his obligation to address the concern of all americans, not only just those who have voted for him. and i want to remind mr. trump that you have not gotten the majority of popular vote. those votes are still concerned on the streets and the number of those votes is growing on the streets, their concerns must be addressed for he may have won the electoral college but he must win the respect of everyone and respect is not given by demand. respect is earned. and that is his first step, yet it has been three days that we have not heard anything of reconciliation, anything of lead ing for america forward. all we ve heard is blaming our fourth pillar of democracy, which is press, that somehow these protests are incited by media. this practice must come to an end if this president-elect wishes to have move our country forward, wishes to have a government that will move our country forward. my mission, my journey continues throughout into next year and that journey is of reconciliation, of healing, of moving forward, but from the successful candidate we have not heard. so i would urge him. i hate to continue to give him lessons in civics, but somebody has to speak on behalf of all these folks that are standing on the streets. these folks are scared because of his statements and his policies, and he has not extended hand of courtesy, has not extended hand of affection, hand of reconciliation. a decent winner would do that at the very first day that now that i have been elected your president, i am prepared but he has not done that. mr. khan, there have been reports, some are anecdotal, but some have police reports attached to them, of acts of bigotry committed by american citizens towards other american citizens whether they re african-american or muslim americans. you know, under the name of president-elect trump. do you feel how do you feel as a muslim american in your community among friends, people you worship with, do people feel like they re targets right now? every child, every thoughtful muslim is concerned not only muslim is concerned, but latino americans are concerned, other minorities are concerned. and these incidents reported in the media with pictures, with photos, with videos, they re carrying trump s banners, they re wearing trump s hats. they re wearing trump t-shirts. that is an obligation of this newly elected candidate that has become our that will become our president, that he owes this to communities, to minorities, these are patriot americans. to come out and he owes them. and condemn and extend the hand of reconciliation. that is that should have been done. where are his surrogates? where are his advisers? why aren t they telling him? it s this protest, these
the speech is expected to last about 35 minutes, after which, we ll talk with our panel and bring you highlights from his remarks, but we obviously will bring president obama in full, we expect him to come out in the next minute or so. this is something george washington we were talking about was the first president, obviously who chose to give a farewell address. right, when he did it, he did it because there was no such thing as a two-term president. he could have been president for years and years and years, and he wanted to make clear to america that we didn t have a king anymore. sounds like we could be seeing the president? oh, maybe not. [ applause ] certainly sounded like the music coming out, but that was the purpose of that is to say, look, we are a democracy, we are not a monarchy. so that s where the tradition started. let s listen in. ladies and gentlemen, please welcome the 44th president of the united states, barack obama. [cheers and applause] [cheers and applause] hello, chicago! [cheers and applause] it s good to be home! [cheers and applause] thank you, everybody. thank you! thank you. thank you! [cheers and applause] thank you so much. thank you, thank you. thank you. it s good to be home. thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you. thank you. [cheers and applause] thank you. thank you. we re on live tv here, i got to move. i was in my early 20s. and i was still trying to figure out who i was. still searching for a purpose in my life. and it was a neighborhood not far from here where i began working with church groups in the shadows of closed steel mills. it was on these streets where i witnessed the power of faith. and the quiet dignity of working people in the face of struggle. and loss. [ crowd chants four more years ] i can t do that. this is where i learned that change only happens when ordinary people get involved and they get engaged, and they come together to demand it. after eight years as your president, i still believe that. and it s not just my belief. it s the beating heart of our american idea. our bold experiment in self-governing. it s a conviction that we are all created equal. endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights, among them, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. it s the insistence that these rights, while self-evident have never been self-executed. that we, the people, through the instrument of our democracy can form a more perfect union. what a radical idea. a great gift that our founders gave to us. the freedom to chase our individual dreams through our sweat and toil and imagination and the imperative to strive together as well, to achieve a common good, a greater good. for 240 years, our nation s call to citizenship has given work and purpose to each new generation. it s what led patriots to choose republic over tyranny. pioneers to trek west. slaves to brave that makeshift railroad to freedom. it s what pulled immigrants and refugees across oceans and the rio grande. it s what pushed women to reach for the ballot. [cheers and applause] it s what powered workers to organize. it s why gis gave their lives on omaha beach and iwo jima, iraq and afghanistan. and why men and women from selma to stonewall were prepared to give theirs as well. [cheers and applause] so, so that s what we mean when we say america s exceptional. not that our nation s been flawless from the start, but that we have shown the capacity to change. and make life better for those who follow. yes, our progress has been uneven. the work of democracy has always been hard. it s always been contentious. sometimes it s been bloody. for every two steps forward, it often feels we take one step back. but the long sweep of america has been defined by forward motion. a constant widening of our founding creed to embrace all, and not just some. [cheers and applause] if i had told you eight years ago that america would reverse the great recession, reboot our auto industry, and unleash the longest stretch of job creation in our history [cheers and applause] if i had told you that we would open up a new chapter with the cuban people, shut down iran s nuclear weapons program without firing a shot [cheers and applause] take out the mastermind of 9/11 [cheers and applause] if i had told you that we would win marriage equality and secure the right to health insurance [cheers and applause] for another 20 million of our fellow citizens [cheers and applause] if i had told you all that, you might have said our sights were set a little too high. but that s what we did. [cheers and applause] that s what you did. you were the change. the answer to people s hopes, and because of you, by almost every measure, america s a better, stronger place than it was when we started. [cheers and applause] in ten days, the world will witness a hallmark of our democracy. [ crowd boos ] no, no, no. the peaceful transfer of power from one freely-elected president to the next. [ applause ] i committed to president-elect trump that my administration would ensure the smoothest-possible transition, just as president bush did for me. [ applause ] because it s up to all of us to make sure our government can help us meet the many challenges we still face. we have what we need to do so. we have everything we need to meet those challenges. after all, we remain the wealthiest, most powerful and most respected nation on earth. our youth, our drive, our diversity and openness, our boundless capacity for risk and reinvention means that the future should be ours. but that potential will only be realized if our democracy works. only if our politics better reflects the decency of our people. [ applause ] only if all of us, regardless of party affiliation or particular interests help restore the sense of common purpose that we so badly need right now. that s what i want to focus on tonight, the state of our democracy. i understand democracy does not require uniformity. our founders argued. they quarrelled. eventually, they compromised. they expected us to do the same. but they knew [cheers and applause] that democracy does require a basic sense of solidarity. the idea that for all our outward differences we re all in this together, that we rise or fall as one. [ applause ] there have been moments throughout our history that threatened that solidarity. and the beginning of this century has been one of those times. a shrinking world, growing inequality, demographic change and the spectre of terrorism. these forces haven t just tested our security and prosperity, but are testing our democracy as well. and how we meet these challenges to our democracy will determine our ability to educate our kids and create good jobs and protect our homeland. in other words, it will determine our future. to begin with, our democracy won t work without a sense that everyone has economic opportunity. and the good news is that today the economy is growing again, wages, incomes, home values and retirement accounts are all rising again. poverty is falling again. [ applause ] the wealthy are paying a fairer share of taxes, even as the stock market shatters records, the unemployment rate is near a ten-year low, the uninsured rate has never, ever been lower. [cheers and applause] health care costs are rising at the slowest rate in 50 years, and i ve said, and i mean it. if anyone can put together a plan that is demonstrably better than our health care system that covers as many people at less cost, i will publicly support it. [cheers and applause] because that, after all, is why we serve. not to score points or take credit. but to make people s lives better. but for all the real progress that we ve made, we know it s not enough. our economy doesn t work as well or grow as fast when a few prosper at the expense of a growing middle class, and ladders for those who want to get into the middle class. that s the economic argument. but stark inequality is also corrosive to our democratic idea. well, the top 1% has amassed a bigger share of wealth and income, too many of our families in inner cities and in rural counties have been left behind. the laid-off factory workers, the waitress or health care worker who s just barely getting by and struggling to pay the bills, convinced that the game is fixed against them, that the government only serves the interest of the powerful. that s a recipe for more cynicism and polarization in our politics. there are no quick fixes to this long-term trend. i agree, our trade should be fair and not just free. but the next wave of economic dislocations won t come from overseas. it will come from the relentless pace of automation that makes a lot of good, middle class jobs obsolete. and so we re going to have to forge a new social compact to guarantee all our kids the education they need. [ applause ] to give workers the power to unionize for better wages. to update the social safety net to reflect the way we live now. and make more reforms to the tax code so our corporations and individuals who reap the most in this new economy don t avoid their obligations to the country that s made their very success possible. [cheers and applause] we can argue about how to best achieve these goals. but we can t be complacent about the goals themselves. for, if we don t create opportunity for all people, the disaffection and division that has stalled our progress will only sharpen in years to come. there s a second threat to our democracy, and this one is as old as our nation itself. after my election, there was talk of a post-racial america. and such a vision, however well intended, was never realistic. race remains a potent and often divisive force in our society. now, i ve lived long enough to know that race relations are better than they were ten or 20 or 30 years ago, no matter what some folks say. you can see it [ applause ] not just in statistics, you see it in the attitudes of young americans across the political spectrum. but we re not where we need to be. and all of us have more work to do. if every economic issue is framed as a struggle between a hard-working white middle class and an undeserving minority, then workers of all shades are going to be left fighting for scraps while the wealthy withdraw further into their private enclaves. [cheers and applause] if we re unwilling to invest in the children of immigrants just because they don t look like us, we will diminish the prospects of our own children, because those brown kids will represent a larger and larger share of america s workforce. [cheers and applause] and we have shown that our economy doesn t have to be a zero-sum game. last year, incomes rose for all races, all age groups. for men and for women. so, if we re going to be serious about race going forward, we need to uphold laws against discrimination in hiring and in housing and in education and in the criminal justice system. that is what our constitution and our highest ideals require. [ applause ] but laws alone won t be enough. hearts must change. they won t change overnight. social attitudes oftentimes take generations to change. but if our democracy is to work the way it should in this increasingly diverse nation, then each one of us need to try to heed the advice of a great character in american fiction, atticus finch who said you never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view. until you climb into his skin. and walk around in it. from blacks and other minority groups, that means tying our own, very real struggles for justice, to the challenges that a lot of people in this country face. not only the refugee or the immigrant or the rural poor or the transgender american, but also the middle-aged white guy, who, from the outside, may seem like he s got advantages, but has seen his world upended by economic and cultural and technological change. we have to pay attention and listen. [ applause ] for white americans, it means acknowledging that the effects of slavery and jim crow didn t suddenly vanish in the 60s. [cheers and applause] that when minority groups voice discontent, they re not just engaging in reverse racism or practicing political correctness. when they wage peaceful protest, they re not demanding special treatment but the equal treatment that our founders promised. [cheers and applause] for native-born americans, for native-born americans, it means reminding ourselves that the stereotypes about immigrants today were said almost word for word about the irish. and italians and poles, who it was said were going to destroy the fundamental character of america. and as it turned out, america wasn t weakened by the presence of these newcomers, these newcomers embraced this nation s creed, and this nation was strengthened. so [ applause ] regardless of the station that we occupy, we all have to try harder. we all have to start with the premise that each of our fellow citizens loves this country just as much as we do. that they value hard work and family, just like we do. that their children are just as curious and hopeful and worthy of love as our own. [ applause ] and that s not easy to do. for too many of us, it s become safer to retreat into our own bubbles. whether in our neighborhoods or on college campuses or places of worship or especially, our social media feeds. surrounded by people who look like us and share the same political outlook and never challenge our assumptions. in the rise of naked partisanship and increasing economics, all this makes this great sorting seem natural, even inevitable. increasingly we become so comfortable in our bubbles, instead of basing our opinions on the evidence that is out there. [ applause ] and this trend represents a third threat to our democracy. look, politics is a battle of ideas. that s how our democracy was designed. in the course of a healthy debate we prioritize different goals and the different means of reaching them. but without some common baseline of facts, without a willingness to admit new information and concede that your opponent might be making a fair point and that science and reason matter, then we re going to keep talking past each other. [cheers and applause] and will make common ground and compromise impossible. and isn t that part of what so often makes politics disspiriting? how can elected officials rage about deficits when we propose to spend money on preschool for kids but not when we re cutting taxes for corporations? how do we excuse ethical lapses in our own party but pounce when the other party does the same thing? it s not just dishonest, this selective sorting of the facts, it s self-defeating. because, as my mom used to tell me, reality has a way of catching up with you. [ applause ] take the challenge of climate change. in just eight years, we ve halved our dependence on foreign oil, we ve led the agreement that has the promise to save this planet. [cheers and applause] but without bolder action, our children won t have time to debate the existence of climate change. they ll be busy dealing with its effects. more environmental disasters, more economic disruptions, waves of climate refugees seeking sanctuary. and we can and should argue about the best approach to solve the problem. but to simply deny the problem, not only betrays future generations, it betrays the essential spirit of this country, the essential spirit of innovation and practical problem-solving that guided our founders. [cheers and applause] it is that spirit, it is that spirit born of the enlightenment that made us an economic powerhouse. the spirit that took flight at kitty hawk and cape canaveral, the spirit that cures disease and put a computer in every pocket. it s that spirit, a faith in reason and enterprise and the primacy of right over might that allowed us to resist the lure of fascism and tyranny during the great depression. that allowed us to build a post-world war ii order with other democracies. an order based not just on military power or national affiliations but built on principles. the rule of law. human rights. freedom of religion and speech and assembly and an independent press. [ applause ] that order is now being challenged. first, by violent fanatics who claim to speak for islam, more recently by autocrats and foreign capitals who see free markets and open democracies and civil society itself as a threat to their power. the peril each poses to our democracy is more far-reaching than a car bomb or a missile. they represent the fear of change. the fear of people who look or speak or pray differently. a contempt for the rule of law that holds leaders accountable. an intolerance of dissent and free thought. a belief that the sword or the gun or the bomb or the propaganda machine is the ultimate arbiter of what s true and what s right. because of the extraordinary courage of our men and women in uniform, because of our intelligence officers and law enforcement and diplomats who support our troops [ applause ] no foreign terrorist organization has successfully planned and executed an attack on our homeland these past eight years. [ applause ] and although boston and orlando and san bernardino and ft. hood remind us of how dangerous radicalization can be, our law enforcement agencies are more effective and vigilant than ever. we have taken out tens of thousands of terrorists, including bin laden. [cheers and applause] the global coalition we re leading against isil has taken out their leaders and taken away about half their territory. isil will be destroyed, and no one who threatens america will ever be safe. [cheers and applause] and all who serve or have served, it has been the honor of my lifetime to be your commander in chief. [cheers and applause] and we all owe you a deep debt of gratitude. [cheers and applause] but protecting our way of life, that s not just the job of our military. democracy can buckle when it gives in to fear. so just as we, as citizens, must remain vigilant against external aggression, we must guard against a weakening of the values that make us who we are. [ applause ] and that s why, for the past eight years i ve worked to put the fight against terrorism on a firmer legal footing. that s why we ve ended torture, worked to close gitmo, worked to protect privacy and civil liberties. that s why i reject discrimination against muslim americans [cheers and applause] who are just as patriotic as we are. [cheers and applause] that s why, that s why we cannot withdraw, that s why we cannot withdraw from big global fights to expand democracy and human rights and women s rights and lgbt rights. no matter how imperfect our efforts. no matter how expedient ignoring such values may seem, that s part of defending america. for the fight against extremism and intolerance and sectarianism and chauvinism are of a piece with the night against authoritarianism and nationalist aggression. if the scope of freedom and respect for the rule of law shrinks around the world, the likelihood of war within and between nations increases. and our own freedoms will eventually be threatened. so let s be vigilant, but not afraid. [ applause ] isil will try to kill innocent people. but they cannot defeat america unless we betray our constitution and our principles in the fight. [ applause ] rivals like russia or china cannot match our influence around the world, unless we give up what we stand for. and turn ourselves into just another big country that bullies smaller neighbors. which brings me to my final point. our democracy, our democracy is threatened whenever we take it for granted. [ applause ] all of us, regardless of party, should be throwing ourselves into the task of rebuilding our democratic institutions. [ applause ] when voting rates in america are some of the lowest among advanced democracies, we should be making it easier, not harder to vote. [cheers and applause] when, when trust in our institutions is low, we should reduce the corrosive influence of money in our politics and insist on the principles of transparency and ethics in public service. when congress is dysfunctional, we should draw our congressional districts to encourage politicians to cater to common sense and not rigid extremes. [cheers and applause] but remember, none of this happens on its own. all of this depends on our participation. on each of us accepting the responsibility of citizenship. regardless of which way the pendulum of power happens to be swinging. our constitution is a remarkable, beautiful gift. but it s really just a piece of parchment. it has no power on its own. we, the people, give it power. [cheers and applause] we, the people, give it meaning. with our participation and with the choices that we make. and the alliances that we forge. whether or not we stand up for our freedoms, whether or not we respect and enforce the rule of law. that s up to us. america s no fragile thing. but the gains of our long journey to freedom are not assured. in his own farewell address, george washington wrote that self-government is the underpinning of our safety, prosperity and liberty. but from different causes and from different quarters much pains will be taken to weaken in your minds the conviction of this truth. and so we have to preserve this truth with jealous anxiety that we should reject the first dawning of every attempt to alienate any portion of our country from the rest or to enfeeble the sacred ties that make us one. [cheers and applause] america, we weaken those ties when we allow our political dialog to become so corrosive that people of good character aren t even willing to enter into public service. so coarse with rancor that americans with whom we disagree are seen not just as misguided but as malevolent. we weaken the whole system when we write off the whole system as corrupt. and without examining our own role in electing them. [cheers and applause] it falls to each of us to be those anxious, jealous guardians of our democracy. to embrace the joyous task we ve been given. to continually try to improve this great nation of ours. because, for all our outward differences, we in fact all share the same proud title, the most important officer of democracy, citizen. [ applause ] citizen. so, you see, that s what our democracy demands. it needs you. not just when there s an election. not just when your own narrow interest is at stake, but over the full span of a lifetime. if you re tired of arguing with strangers on the internet, try talking with one of them in real life. [cheers and applause] if something needs fixing, then lace up your shoes, and do some organizing. [cheers and applause] if you re disappointed by your elected officials, grab a clipboard, get some signatures, and run for office yourself. [cheers and applause] show up. dive in. stay at it. sometimes you ll win. sometimes you ll lose. presuming a reservoir of goodness in other people, that can be a risk. and there will be times when the process will disappoint you. but for those of us fortunate enough to have been part of this work and to see it up close, let me tell you, it can energize and inspire. and more often than not, your faith in america and in americans will be confirmed. mine sure has been. over the course of these eight years, i ve seen the hopeful faces of young graduates and our newest military officers. i have mourned with grieving families, searching for answers, and found grace in a charleston church. i ve seen our scientists help a paralyzed man regain his sense of touch. i ve seen wounded warriors who at points were given up for dead walk again. i ve seen our doctors and volunteers rebuild after earthquakes and stop pandemics in their tracks. i ve seen the youngest of children remind us through their actions and through their generosity of our obligations to care for refugees. or work for peace. and above all, to look out for each other. [ applause ] so that faith that i placed all those years ago, not far from here, in the power of ordinary americans to bring about change, that faith has been rewarded in ways i could not have possibly imagined. and i hope your faith has too. some of you here tonight who are watching at home, you were there with us in 2004, in 2008. 2012. [cheers and applause] maybe you still can t believe we pulled this whole thing off. let me tell you, you re not the only ones. michelle [cheers and applause] michelle robinson, girl of the south side. for the past 25 years, you have not only been my wife and mother of my children. you have been my best friend. you took on a role you didn t ask for. and made it your own with grace and grit and style and good humor. you made the white house a place that belongs to everybody. and the new generation sets its sights higher because it has you as a role model. so you have made me proud. and you have made the country proud. malia and sasha, under the strangest of circumstances you have become two amazing young women. you are smart and beautiful, but more importantly you are kind and you are thoughtful and you are full of passion. you wore the burden of years in the spotlight so easily. of all that i have done in my life i am most proud to be your dad. to joe biden the scrappy kid from scranton, who became delaware s favorite son. you were the first decision i made as a nominee. and it was the best. not just because you have been a great vice president. but because in the bargain i gained a brother. and we love you and jill like family and your friendship has been one of the great joys of our lives. to my remarkable staff. for eight years and for jefferssome of you a whole lot more, i have drawn from your energy and every day i try to reflect back what you displayed. heart, and character. and idealism. i ve watched you grow up. get married, have kids. start incredible new journeys of your own. even when times got tough and frustrating you never let washington get the better of you. you guarded against cynicism. and the only thing that makes me prouder than all the good that we ve done is the thought that all the amazing things you are going to achieve from here. and all of you out there, every organizer who moved to an unfamiliar town, every kind family who welcomed them in. every volunteer who knocked on doors, every young person who cast a ballot for the first time, every american who lived and breathed the hard work of change you are the best supporters and organizers anybody could ever hope for and i will be forever grateful. because you did change the world. you did. and that is why i leave this stage tonight even more optimistic about this country than when we started. because i know our work has not only helped so many americans, it has inspired so many americans. especially so many young people out there. to believe that you can make a difference. to hitch your wagon to something bigger than yourself. let me tell you, this generation coming up, unselfish, altruistic, creative, patriotic. i have seen you in every corner of the country. you believe in a fair and just and inclusive america. you know that constant change has been america s hallmark. that it s not something to fear but something to embrace. you are willing to carry this hard work of democracy forward. you will soon outnumber all of us. and i believe as a result, the future is in good hands. my fellow americans, it has been the honor of my life to serve you. i won t stop. in fact, i will be right there with you as a citizen for all of my remaining days. but for now, whether you are young or whether you are young at heart i do have one final ask of you as your president. the same thing i asked when you took a chance on me eight years ago. i am asking you to believe not in my ability to bring about change but in yours. i am asking you to hold fast to that faith, written into our founding documents. that idea whispered by slaves and abolitionists, and that song for those who marched by justice, and the creed reaffirmed by those who were in battle. a creed by every american whose story has not yet been written. yes, we did, yes, we can, yes, we will. may god continue to bless the united states of america. thank you.
bitter campaign there was sadness, disbelief and tears shed around the white house this morning. but president obama stepped up and made a strong call for unity. i had a chance to talk to president elect trump last night, about 3:30 in the morning i think it was, to congratulate him on winning the election. and i had a chance to invite him to come to the white house tomorrow to talk about making sure there is a successful transition between our presidencies. and tonight there are peaceful anti-trump protests around the country. you can see some of them. people exercising their right. live pictures from new york city and chicago. hundreds have taken to the street. wall street in the meantime surging today. a steep drop overnight. election results first showing trump likely to win. the market fell over 900 points ending up with a swing up over the president elect pulling off a stunning victory, capturing the key battleground states of florida, north carolina and ohio. and blasting through hillary clinton s blue wall in wisconsin and pennsylvania, which put him over the top. as i ve said from the beginning, ours was not a campaign but rather an incredible and great movement. made up of millions of hard working men and women who love their country and want a better, brighter future for themselves and for their family. trump, the first non politician to assume the presidency since dwight eisenhower now shifts his focus to the transition of the white house and building a trump administration. once trump takes office in january he ll have republican majorities in both houses of congress to help push through through his agenda. i think what donald trump just pulled off is an enormous joe johns is outfront live in chappaqua, new york. joe, that had to be the hardest thing she s ever done in her life. she indicated it was very painful. i think that is probably a huge understatement. what are you hear about her mind set right now? i think you hit the nail on the head. somber is the word. the speech she gave today visibly painful for hillary clinton. it is clear she wanted to try to console her supporters but frankly did just not have a lot to work with. the campaign did maintain a media presence on twitter and so on. the last tweet that we saw was a bible verse from the book of galatians. let us not what was it here? let us not grow weary in doing good. but it was not signed by hillary clinton with the character h, signaling it came directly from her. hillary clinton s bid to become the first woman to become president came to a painful end. this is not the outcome we wanted or worked so hard for and i m sorry that we did not win this election for the values we share and the vix sion we hold r our country. the democrats urged the country to embrace donald trump as the president elect, her first public comments since the outcome of the election became clear. we must accept this result and then look to the future. donald trump is going to be our president. we owe him an open mind and the chance to lead. reporter: president obama echoing the comments from the rose garden. serve sad when their party lose an election. but at the end we have to remember we are all on one team. we re all now rooting for his success in uniting and leading the country. the peaceful transition of power is one of the the hallmarks of our democracy. and over the next few months we are going to show that to the world. reporter: clinton not hiding the impact of the rebuke by voters. this is painful and it will be for a long time. but i want you to remember this. our campaign was never about one person or even one election. it was about the country we love. her voice breaking with emotion as she spoke to young women who believed in her historic candidacy. to all the women and especially the young women who put their faith in this campaign and in me, i wanted you to know that nothing has made me prouder than to be your champion. reporter: in the end it was a stunning defeat, clinton came up well short in the electoral vote despite holding a narrow lead in the popular vote with some still left to be counted. the defeat leaving supporters in a state of shock. some in tears. consoling each other. clinton tried to give them a lift today with her words. i know. i know we have still not shattered that highest and hardest glass ceiling. but someday someone will, and hopefully sooner than we might think right now. reporter: after the speech the campaign chairman and the campaign manager spoke to hillary clinton s staff in brooklyn urging them to stay in politics. since then pretty much radio silence from hillary clinton. though we were told we were expected to come back here to her home. back you do erin. thank you very much. and breaking news right now. we can now tell you hillary clinton has won new hampshire. certified vote totals in that state now in showing clinton did win new hampshire. the electoral vote now 290 for trump, 232 for clinton. that of course still leaves michigan outstanding. outfront david gergen, mark preston, dana bash. kayleigh mcenany. bakari sellers. paris stenar the and george cord anyway. thanks all for being with me. obviously at this point the electoral, that is over. but that is still a victory for her to be able to say she has new hampshire. right. for her supporters. i heard a yes she lost though. the bottom line is she s lost twice and she s got nowhere to go from this. to maria s point though they did pick up a senate seat in new hampshire which is critical. democrats are going to do have a lot of trouble in congress going into 2018 where the odds are stacked against them. no matter what happens in the trump presidency in the next couple of years, democrats have an uphill battle but the fact of the matter she wasn t able to excite her base in key states. so. and we re going to talk much more with a definitive electoral college win. the popular vote right now still indicating that she ll have that. that split we ve only seen once this century with al gore. dow futures plunging last night. traders outside of the united states sending it down nearly 900 points. it closed up today, resoundingly so. thousand point swing. after all the doom and gloom, you heard all of the people out there say all of these bad things would happen in the market. today the exact opposite for a trump victory. good news for donald trump. just as early on for the brexit voters. you pointed out before we came on the air a big part of that swing is the initial reaction, the negative reaction came in the foreign markets where there is a lot of jittery investors and there is a lot of terror among foreign policy people. but when the u.s. markets open that is when the swing came. i think that is a big part of it. it is also true that investors here are taking a hard look at his economic plan and the fact that he s going to provide fiscal stimulus they think will be on large order starting with tax cuts and investments and infrastructure. both of those things add fuel to the economy and you can get higher interest rates and investors look at that and say that is good news, let s support it. and dana when you lock another what happened today, it was a country showing that people could rise to the best. and it started with donald trump. at 3:00 in the morning. when he came down and he was gracious and he was generous. and he reached out. clinton took about nine hours. and one would presume she was probably physically unable to come out when she first heard the news. when she did speak there was a lot of emotion in her voice as well. here she is. i know how disappointed you feel because i feel it too. and so do tens of millions of americans who invested their hopes and dreams in this effort. this is painful. and it will be for a long time. raw and personal. a side of her we didn t see this election. exactly. and it is the side of her we saw after she lost in 2008. the side of her we saw after within that primary process she lost the iowa caucuses and went on to new hampshire and she had that famous moment where she got emotional. i m not saying she needs to show her emotions on her sleeve because if she did that all the time then she would have other problems. but what she did do there was appear to show her real self. and that is always what happens. doesn t matter who you are, what gender, what party, when a candidate lose, especially loses this big and in this much of a public way and, you know, in this case a big surprise for her, all of your defenses are down and you have nothing but your raw self. and i think that was so clear today. and it also happens, it is inevitable that people say where was that person? where was that candidate? and it is because they are not guarded in that moment. and when you know the winner and the loser it is easy to have empathy for side if you were on the other side. today, george w. bush, george h.w. bush, mitt romney, obviously you didn t support trump. but even on the other side. elizabeth warren, nancy pelosi saying they are going to work with donald trump. elizabeth warren. right. i mean those two have so said. so naes nastiest things of anybody on. turns out after the election grown ups come back. the election really does change you. most of us at heart are partisan and we ve all been fighting and working for a long time on either end of it or covering it. and but at the end of the day the country still needs running and i so actually thought it was really nice to see people from both wings. the progressive wing, the right that didn t support donald trump come out and say listen, we ve got to grow up. we ve got to come together. this is going to be important. we still have a lot of challenges. and, you know, as crazy as this turn of events is, this is the reality. let s move on and get to work? let s talk this. definitive electoral victory for donald trump. when you lookout the popular vote hillary clinton is ahead there. even in state, trump won pennsylvania 16,000 votes out of millions cast. you could call it a mandate or you can call ate the deeply divided country that needs outreach. will trump be able to do the latter? yes and i agree there is a country that does needs outreach. there are big divisions here. and when donald trump came out here and he was big in that moment and praised hillary clinton and praised her hard work. and then went on to say something really important. that is movement of people of all races and all religions and today i ve had a few emotional encounters with the hillary support who are said i can get behind taking my government back. that makes sense to me. when i take the partisanship out of it. what donald trump s say makes sense. bakari, kayleigh is saying she s cease it as outreach is needed. trump s campaign manager and paul ryan don t see that it way exactly. let s play what they had to say today. given a mandate. what donald trump just pulled off is an enormous political feat. he just earned a mandate. mandate. twice. we ve had a difference of opinion in definitions of words throughout the campaign and we ll have a another difference right now. it is not a mandate. whatever we want to call it, i don t think it is that but he does come in today as the winner. and in politics all that matters is who wins the race. it doesn t matter if you get 270 not about the margin. it is about the victory. so donald trump is the president of the united states. i will do everything i can to make sure he s successful. any democrat that will not do anything he can to make sure he s successful is not doing the count ray service. how i will say that today is a devastating day for many people when we woke up this morning. my daughter was inconsolable this morning for many arab americans and imgrants and african americans. many young women. today was a very difficult day. and the reason being is because there are many of us who will do everything we to make sure donald trump is successful but still believe he does not represent what s best for the country. does not represent who we are. and donald trump, his biggest burden is to unify this country. the conundrum is last night he showed that he didn t have to unify the country to be successful. so i don t know why anyone wants me to believe that he ll unify the country today. paris? at the end of the day there are a lot of fragile communities that are suffering. they are blacker this, brown. they are appalachia e they are republican, they are democrat and when you lookout at this decisive victory. i think it is a mandate. you look at the people who say we need change. we need somebody to help us. we need jobs. student loan debt is out of control. and these people are the wons to vote. the pollsters mszed it. they didn t poll them. didn t talk to them. didn t understand where they came from. but a certainly people supporting donald trump. 8% african american. better than mitt romney. the national diversity coalition more trump was out there doing positive things and i believe mr. trump is going to continue this engagement and be the leader that people who voted for him know he can be. we ll talk about the polls and exactly how this happened in a moment. next how donald trump redrew the electoral map. and what trump s loil supporters got right yal supporters got right was your faith ever shaken? i thought the polls were wrong from the beginning. and donald trump s close friend of nearly 40 years was with trump last night as the results came in. tom baric is my guest outfront. we ll be right back when you find something worth waiting for, we ll help you invest to protect it for the future. financial guidance while you re mastering life. from chase, so you can. 80% try to eat healthy, yet up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients from food alone. let s do more. add one a day men s gummies. complete with key nutrients plus b vitamins to help 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biggest political upset in modern history. john king is outfront. and i like people around the world were glued to you last night. county by county, state by state. break it down how did trump win. remember in 2008, barack obama, then senator obama, president obama. he turned all those states blue? well that is what donald trump did last night. wisconsin here. ohio was a swing state normally. florida. iowa. what is the pattern here the sf a lot of the states across the american heartland. 2001, president obama carried them all. 2008 president obama carried them all. donald trump literally rewrote the map of american politics. he did it by winning in the heartland, winning in the industrial midwest and running it up among whites without a college degree. who have been the base of the democratic party. this should be nine not ten in wisconsin. the math has been adjusted but a big win trump is over romney in 2012. a big win in michigan. same voters. a big win in pennsylvania. a big win in ohio. white, industrial state, middle class, midwest rust belt workers went for donald trump. millions of them that we didn t know existed came out and votes for donald trump is a myth. that s not true. donald trump will be the president of the united states. he won. the republicans won the election. donald trump got 1.1 million votes few ore than mitt romney in 2008. he won because democrats stayed home. not because the secret republicans came out to the polls. which obviously answers a big question a lot of people watching have. and the other thing this came down to is something trump knew from the beginning and he pounded the table on it again and again and again. it came down to the economy. and took a lot of cues from the bernie sanders to be honest about this. and in national exit polls trump had the advantage over secretary barely. but on this question does trade take u.s. jobs away. two-thirds of the voters thought trade takes u.s. jobs away and view donald trump as more genuine on that issue and it mattered a lot where there are blue collar voters. back to 2016. let s pull this up. one thick about what happened last night. i m not trying to take anything from the donald trump. he won. a sweeping election. they did a fantastic job. but this is wayne county. this is detroit. hillary clinton got 517,022 in wayne county. four years ago president obama got 595,000 plus votes. that is an 83,000 plus different between obama then and hillary clinton. now she s losing the state of michigan by 11,000 vote. she got the percentages in wayne county. 67%. the percentage looks great. the numbers, she didn t have the numbers. they stayed home. they didn t vote. thank you very much john king. and when you talk about who voted and who didn t. one of the big surprises here as we break this down was hispanics. there were many who said there is no way anyone who s hispanic is going to vote for donald trump because of the wall because of the mexican rapest comment and tho and those people were dead wrong. stunning numbers. what did you get wrong? i didn t. because these numbers are wrong. and i ll tell you why. i have talked about this. the polls, right, time after time in those panels about how they completely undercount the hispanic vote because they don t go where hispanics are and they don t talk to hispanics in the spanish. same with the exit polls. time and time again this happens. 2004 bush got percent of the hispanic vote and it earned up being 40. and we never try to change the narrative because who cared. they won. what do you think the real number is going to be? i know what the real number is going to be. latino decisions which is the premier polling firm did a election link poll and precinct by precinct analysis today and the numbers are hillary clinton got 79% of all latinos and donald trump got 18%. the problem is because other democrats stayed home and there was a wave of white voters. we can t do it all. so we showed up but others didn t. very interesting. what john king said a second ago is really important. and i hope republicans especially whe especially are listening. trump won fewer votes than mccain and romney. and that is because democrats stayed home. what i don t want republicans to think is that democrats have been wrong about the changing map of this country. democrats are right. the country is getting younger and it is getting more diverse. they just didn t vote in the numbers they needed to the point [chatter]. nevada, it was a big reason katherine cortez is now the first senator. and colorado a big reason bennett got reelected. and arizona a big reason joe arapayo is no longer in office. at the end of the day i think david gergen and dana bash and the mark preston sorry where are you going with this. [ laughter ] but it s very simple. either you show up or you don t. politics have very very simple. the hillary clinton campaign had a model. and i stated this earlier that the winner of this campaign had to get 65 million votes to be president of the united states. the winner of this campaign got 59 million. you do have other people running. there was something lightly is different than last time. but you always have a third party candidate running. the model doesn t change. the fact is the fact is there were 6 million democratic voters. this is on us. this is not a wave this is not a tsunami. let s talk about the black vote. she did 88%. obama did better of course. gore did better. barack obama went out and said to the african american community you must vote to preserve my legacy. they did not comply in the numbers needed for her to win. first of all the premise of your question is off. but i will say that african americans did not come out in the numbers they came out with for barack obama. one, i don t know if we know yet but hillary clinton is white and there was a lot of history with al doer gore did better. he was not african american. also you cannot denies some things that happened in this country. the different between donald trump and hillary clinton in wisconsin is 27,000 votes i believe jorng and we also know there are 23 thousand people who didn t comply with the voter since you clearly referred to us as gray beards, let me earn [chatter]. i said experts dana. experts. that is millennial for old. i get it. is he a millennial? candidates matter. and you can do all of the modelling and the demographics and the percentages and, you know, voters are going to vote and we have to get them out. they are not going get out and vote don t. hold on. until and unless they are not only excited about somebody but really feel compelled by their story, by their message, by what they are going to do when they get into that building there. and hillary clinton was the wrong candidate for the wrong time so and donald trump captured lightning in a bottle. can we show because we talked about this over the past few days multiple times. and you said it was possible. and it happened. the polls did note show this. dewey defeats truman. it just happened. something that no one in this country. i just wanted to put it up again. obviously you didn t get the headline. it was too late to even get the headline but with online that doesn t happen. but right, you are a millennial you don t know what that it is. after we all got it so wrong, after we did not know what was coming. we did not anticipate. we spent a lot of money. the day after it seems we ought to be a little humble in explaining what happened. i don t think we know what happens. hold on a second, you know, we go from saying here is what s going to happen with absolute certainty and it doesn t happen and we do know what happened. paris and i have been talking about this for months and months on end. when you circle wayne county and see that immense turnout of blue collar workers and disenfranchised workers who republicans haven t spoken to and democrats haven t spoken to. they showed up. wayne county nothing but black people showed up. and what john king showed is not enough black people. right. dana, that point was brilliant. and the reason it was brilliant you can stop. [ laughter ] finish and then we re going to stop for a moment. the people who did not come out for hillary clinton the way she thought were african american men. and you have to ask. they didn t show up because they have been failed by the democratic party. but you have to ask yourself why? and one of the things that was a stickler nobody pays attention to is you have to go back to the 94 crime bill. somebody today actually said people do not forget there is a whole generation lost. the super predator comment. all of those things came back. the democrat pause for a moment. after you dmoit drinking before coming on the set, one of the reasons is the commonwealth of pennsylvania. defying uflt the polls. becoming the first republican nominee to win there since george w. bush. why in a state that seemed to be so reliably blue? miguel marquez is outfront. reporter: for the trump faithful, never a moment of doubt. i thought the polls were wrong from the beginning. i thought there were a lot of people out there like me that didn t go out and talk about it every day or never got polled but felt very strongly about donald trump. did you think the polls are wrong? yes. because i never thought that hillary would get in. because she is just too sly. for months clinton was consistently up in the polls across pennsylvania on election day 70% of washington county voters stood in line. some for hours. most for trump. what is it about this place that made it tournament for donald trump? everybody is sick and tired of the lies. reporter: bill a house painter says work has been slim and expects trump to turn that around. he s not a politician. this is the problem. there are too many professional liars running our country. that is what they are, professional liars. they make a job of standing around and going i ll do anything you tell me to do until i get in there. reporter: voters like this made trump president elect. clinton won 11 counties in pennsylvania, five by narrow margins. one of the biggest issues here? the cost of obamacare. my health insurance has blown. just for me you are looking at almost 360 bucks a month. reporter: for clinton s urban supporters, the trump victory? what is your over riding emotion this morning? disappointment. shock. shock. reporter: sfeels like the country has changed for worse. how did this happen? but it did. what do you feel today? what i feel today is just just preparing myself to see what s gonna happen. reporter: do you feel like something bad is on the horizon? oh yes. oh yes. i definitely do. so this is washington, that other washington. washington pennsylvania, that went so big for hillary clinton. it wasn t because she didn t try. he had hundreds of staffers here. and 56 offices. this is one of them they are shutting down right now but no matter she did she could not overcome the desire on voters to dismantle the establishment. thank you miguel. when you look at the cost per vote, donald trump criticized for the lack of those field offices is his cost per vote also perhaps setting a record. the senior senator from michigan, senator svanaugh. looks like we are close to calling michigan for trump. haven t gotten there yet. do you think thagz the way this is going to go. i do. 13,000 votes, we ve never seen anything so close. basically a tie. but it is extremely close. about 13,000 votes. .27%. .27%. close but as we ve been saying a win is a win. one more vote and you get the electoral votes. but you didn t think it was going to go this way. our jessica schneider was in your state asking you about this last week. let me play exactly what you said to her when she said is donald trump wasting his time coming to michigan again and again. here is swhae said. the trump campaign saying the hillary campaign is panicking, are they the. no. absolutely not. wishful thinking on their part. look you know the state. you have served in the state. you have served in public office for four decade this is the state of michigan. what did you miss? first of all let me say this really is about people. when we look at all the numbers you and everybody have been talking about. i think what is clear is that the folks who feel left out and behind in this recovery wanted change and were willing to overlook a lot of faults, a lot of things in order to get change. for them, they don t trust any of the establishment. and they want change. so what i m hopeful for. because these are the people i fight for every day. these are the folks that i put bills to the floor to close loopholes to bring jobs home. and i m hoping to see that it will be interesting to see donald trump get his republican colleagues who have been proposing bills i ve had and other democrats have had to actually now come around and be supportive of things like my bill to support a loop hole that allows a company to leave and taxpayers to pay for the move overseas which is outrageous and i ve been trying to get that passed for six years. are you going to work with him? do you see room to work with president trump? if he s willing to follow through on what he said about a rigged system and helping people in closing loopholes and supporting my bring the job home bill, sure. i think the challenge rigged system in some places. rigged system. we as democrats have been saying that there is a now i m not saying rigged voting system. i m saying economically, too many benefits go to those at the top. not enough to middle class people. too many people have fallen out of the middle class and that does mean closing tax loopholes that only benefit the rich. fair trade policies, focussing on the cost of college. all of these things that frankly we have been talking about for a long time and we couldn t and donald trump is a very unconventional republican. looks like he has very specifically on that tax loophole issue room to work with you. i want to ask you something really important though. we ve been talk about how the african american vote, the black vote, there wasn t the turnout. that hurt her. women women, in michigan. 53% voted for hillary clinton. that is a majority. but you know the numbers. barack obama he got 50% in 2012. he got 60% in 2008. women. why did women not support hillary clinton in your state? as the first female nominee for president of the this country? it is very disappointing to me and i think we re going to have to spend time listening and finding out why that was. because i ve said since the beginning if the women of this country want a women president we ll have a women president. and for those of us who really believe this is time, it is something that where he have to thoughtfully look at and figure out. and she s gotten closer than anybody else. and i m counting on the fact that sooner rather than later we re going to get all the way there. but that was disappointing. senator, thank you very much, i appreciate your time. coming on, talking about this today. and next could rudy giuliani be the next attorney general? what about newt gingrich of secretary of state? new details on the trump administration. a lot of decisions to make really quickly. and the man who was in the room with trump when the results came. in joins me next i really did save hundreds on my car insurance with geico. i should take a closer look at geico. geico has a long history of great savings and great service. over seventy-five years. wait. seventy-five years? 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yes. because we re going to win so we have to get ready to form a government. even before the election the trump team was considering places for numerous strategists and aides. kellyanne conway. sean spicer. hope hicks and steve bannon. what question need to do is [ bleep ], the republican party and get those guys heaving too and if we have to we ll take it over. of course all of this is nothing really but educated guesses right now. we don t really know what they are going to be up to and certainly some of donald trump s more polarizing positions could keep some of the mainstream washington players at arm s length, unwilling to step into that white house. but we do know this about d.c., erin. whenever there is a job open close to power, there is always someone ready to take it. that s for sure. all right tom. outfront now tom barrack, close friend and business associate of donald trump for nearly 40 years. we ve spoken time and time again throughout the process. there have been highs and there have been lows. president elect donald trump, has it sunk in for you and for trump himself yet? of course. like i think it sunk in, i was with him last night and this morning. and the best side of president elect trump has come out, which is empathy and humility and compassion. things that you and i have talked about in the past that the viewing population thought we were out of our miebds. so what s happening is you are moving from candidate trump to president trump.nds. so what s happening is you are moving from candidate trump to president trump. and i analogize it to president trump was like a ufc fighter in the middle of an octagon and a martial artist using every tool he could to communicate a message. a message by the way only he really understood. we trying to get him to pivot. and he said of course i can do that. that is not the message i want to convey. and i think last night you saw the real donald trump, humble, kind, compassionate. with a simple agenda. and the agenda is to heal the divide, settle the wounds, calm the country. you saw the market this morning open down on fears. and by the end of the day it is up. so consistency, the ability to have consensus across the board. will be like president reagan. i think you can see in the next two weeks you are talk about the cabinet candidates. and one of the big telling signs how the position will operate is the first five big jobs. state, defense, treasury, chief of staff, homeland security. cia. and if you remember reaganing with an actor for the eureka college with little foreign experience appointed james baker in the first week of his electorate. and then followed it with weinberg, schultz, allen and khan. so i think it is a great opportunity for america to come together. remember we re one team. put all of this anguish behind us. give this man a chance. i think him playing the role of president people will be shocked how good he ll be. so let me ask you that. because, you know, you were one of the people as you just you were open about it. be more presidential. pivot. and he didn t want to hear it. but you are now saying that he is going to be the man that this country saw at 3:00 in the morning giving a gracious and somber speech saying that he wanted to unify the nation, reaching outlet to hillary clinton. do you truly believe that that is the man that will govern? that that is the man that america will see consistently day in and day out? look, a thousand percent. he knows that his first objective right now is to build a bridge to this divide, number one. first and foremost. reach out to the other side. unite this country and then create an agenda. so all of these things people are afraid of. what wall is he going to build? build a wall with understanding. this is america. you can t as a president be a dictator and walk out and be a brunt. he ll be calm, he ll be slow. he ll be considerate. he ll be thoughtful. he ll shock his offenders. and for the victors, i tell all of our peers today. you have to give up hubris. you have to give up the arrogance of victory and reach out to the other side and say now we re really going to build a consensus on these difficult issues together. on immigration, tax reform, foreign policy, on the misi on all of the items that were so difficult in the past.ddle east on all of the items that were so difficult in the past. my panel is back with me. let me give you chance. tomorrow is a big day. barack obama going to meet with donald trump. michele obama going to meet with melania trump. that meeting is crucial tomorrow morning between barack obama and donald trump. yeah. and very historic. and i think based on what we saw with donald sorry w barack obama s speech today, i think he s really set a very conciliatory tone and i would give anything to be a fly on that wall in the meeting tomorrow to see how he interacts. and i think he really does want to see succeed and wants impart whatever kind of knowledge he has that can help him succeed and how will donald trump respond. and that is exactly how barack obama spoke today about george george w. bush. i think president obama wants do that. i was at the white house with president bush and at the end of the term president bush went out of his way to tell all of the staff be respectful, be kind. do all you can do to make this the transition for the next guy coming in. and i he wants to do the same thing for mr. trump. because at the end of the that day he wants mr. trump to succeed and to phil in that legacy. talked about the secretary clinton filling the legacy? there is a gap and i think he s going to fill it. the tone trump used last night i think is the one we can count on but there is nothing he did in the year and a half of campaigning that leads us to believe that is the case. he s got to remember that he s not only the president for the people who came out to support him, he is the approximapreside many communities whom he has offended in the last year and a half. right now they are hurting. kids are hurting. kids are worried about what s going to happen in these communities. i think you are going to see that kind of outreach. donald trump one thing i admired so much about him in the campaign. hoe brought in a diversity coalition. he brought in latino. he listened. he went to these community. first republican candidate to ever have a cohesive message to the african american community. he s going to be they don t feel that way right now. they don t feel that way. the majority, how about that? the majority of african americans and the latinos do not feel that way. not try. absolutely. the majority of did vote that way. coming up next bp engineers use underwater robots, so they can keep watch over operations below the sea, even from thousands of feet above. because safety is never being satisfied. and always working to be better. i m bushed! i ve been on safety is my feel alyea me too.sfied. excuse me.coming through! ride the gel wave of comfort with dr. scholls massaging gel insoles. they re proven to give you comfort. which helps you feel more energized .all day long. i want what he has. this is my retirement. retiring retired tires. and i never get tired of it. are you entirely prepared to retire? 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today and something the president himself highlighted at the press conference. take a listen. i think a lot of his views are going to be shaped by his advisers, the people around him, which is why it s important to pay attention to these confirmation hearhearings. this is a job of such magnitude you can t do it by yourself. you are enormously reliant on a team. how you put a team together to make sure that they are getting you the best information and they are teeing up the options from which you will ultimately make decisions. that s probably the most useful advice, the most constructive advice i ve been able to give him. personnel is policy, in other words. especially for a chief executive who for the first time in the history of this republic has zero experience in public service of any kind, not the government nor the military. with policy positions all over the map, even changing from one day to the next, it s nearly impossible to predict just what trump will do as president. the only thing he s actually had to do so far is pick his top advisors and cabinet secretary nominees. on that score, the last two days of confirmation hearings have been an utter train wreck. on capitol hill today, trump s point man on health care, congressman tom price, was besieged by ethical and legal questions over stock trades he s made involving the medical industry while sitting on a committee that ovsees said industry. at one point, price was even caught directly contradicting an official fact sheet from the trump transition stating that price is, and i quote here, financial adviser designed his portfolio and directed all trades in the account. i did it through a broker. i directed the broker to purchase the stock but i did it through a broker. you directed the broker to purchase particularly that stock? that s correct. yeah. now more on price s legal and ethical issues ahead. at his hearing today, epa nominee scoot pruitt faced tough questions from senator bernie sanders over his stance on made made climate change. why is the climate changing? senator, in response to the co-2 issue, the epa administrator is constrained by statutes i m asking your personal opinion. my personal opinion is immaterial to the job of really? you are going to be the head of the agency to protect the environment and your personal feelings about whether climate change is caused by human activity and carbon emissions is immaterial? more of that exchange with sanders coming up. both those hearings came after the shaky debut last night of trump s pick for education secretary, betsy devos, who showed little familiarity with some of the central tenets of education policy, including a landmark law called the individuals with disabilities education act. that s a federal civil rights law so do you stand by your statement a few minutes ago that it should be up to the states whether to follow it? the law must be federal law must be followed where federal dollars are in play. so were you unaware what i just asked you about the it, that it was a federal law. i may have confused it. senator maggie hassan who you saw live joins me later in the show. we also learned in the course of the vetting process, two of trump s nominees discovered problems with household workers, the exact kind of issue that has disqualified cabinet picks in the past. trump sominee for commerce secretary wilbur ross admitted he recently fired a long time employee who he found to be undocumented. employing undocumented workers was enough to thwart two of bill clinton s attorney general nominees in 1993, zoe baird and kimba wood. both withdrew. nick mulvaney just disclosed he failed to pay more than $15,000 in payroll taxes for a household employee. eight years ago a similar tax compliance issue derailed the nomination of tom daschle who had been the senate majority leader for secretary of health and human services. but in 2017, republicans hold the majority in the senate and unless gop senators defect from their party, these are the people who will be running the government. i m joined now by senator brian schatz, democrat from hawaii. senator, there are various opinions about how senators should take their role of advice and consent. there are some who believe the president should have constitutionally and as a matter of principle wide latitude in selecting the people in his administration. others were much more willing to vote no. where s your personal feeling on this? well, i think a president ought to have his or her cabinet. i think they ought to be able to assemble there team but there should be exceptions. to me those exceptions come with pruitt, betsy devos and time price. and the reason for all three of them i think not being qualified for these cabinet positions is that they are unique. they are being asked to lead agencies they want to dismantle. tom price wants to shred the social safety net it s not that he wants to undo obamacare. he wants to block grant made cade. he didn t vote for the children s health insurance program. this is a person who made a career out of systematically dismantling the social safety net. you ve been a hawk on climate for many, many years. scott pruitt is not qualified to lead the epa. there s never been a person even on the republican side, who wants to do such violence to the mission of the epa. are you as of now a no on all three? i m a no on all three and those and betsy devos, oh, boy, that was a rough performance to watch i was talking to a friend of mine not in politics, that went viral all over the internet. millions and millions of views of a health education labor and pensions meeting. something is happening across the country and it s not late october of last year but now where people are realizing that a lot of these nominees will do violence to the agencies they want to run. we have a nominee for the education department who basically will not commit to public education. who doesn t understand the law at its most basic level and won t commit to not privatizing public education. so you re a no on all those three. i remember hearing early reports democrats were going to choose one or two to focus their fire against. obviously civil rights groups feel very strongly about jeff sessions although it s his colleagues what will be voting. that will be a tough vote for democrats to win. there are also concerns about mnuchin. what i m hearing is do you feel it is the temperature of the democratic caucus that opposition is not politically problematic for them? i think you re exactly right. i think wenderstand that we re the fighting 48. we are the leaders of the democratic party nationally and people expect us to fight. they also expect us to allow a president to stand up a government so i anticipate this week secretary nominee mattis and secretary nominee kelly will likely get a vote later on this week or early next week. we want that national security team in place partly because we want rational sane adults in the room in case something happens right away where the new commander in chief has to deal with it. but there are a couple not just a couple probably three to six nominees that i think a lot of us are going to have an extremely hard time swallowing. so you just said you re the fighting 48. 48 being the key number there, the number of democrats. you need two or three votes, you need three votes to defect. do you have any sense that there s anything that any of these nominees could do or say, whether their performance in the hearing or what s turned up in vetting that would lose them those three votes? you know, i don t know the answer to that question but i know a lot of people have been noticing that many of the sort of mini scandals that have popped up in this issue with mr. price and a stock trade, less e things have sunk greater nominees in the past so we re trying to figure out what is the new political calculation. is there nothing that would cause a republican to defy the president-elect? are there no circumstances where we re going to get any bipartisan cooperation from the republicans because it have private conversations with members of the gop on the senate side who tell me they re rational on climate but none of them have popped their head up and said they can t vote for a climate denier for the epa. we need profiles in courage. we don t need a dozen, we only need two or three in order to make a strong statement on one or several of these nominees. courage in the senate usually has to do with whether people are calling in as constituents or making themselves known as voters. senator brian schatz, thank you very much. appreciate it. thank you, chris. joining me now, katie packer and sam seder, host of the majority report. katie, the standard is interesting. i remember the early days of clinton they came right out and they ran into a buzz saw with several nominees. tom daschle was an example of that for barack obama, though mostly smooth sailing. it occurs that in some ways that s perception and shame. a scandal is only big enough to blow up a nominee if that s how it s perceived to be but if you can lock down the votes you can basically confirm anyone. well, and the rules are just sort of different now, you know? it used to be when you had some scandals that the incumbent the president-elect and his team would hint that this is maybe time to step aside. trump doesn t really cow that easily. trump is standing by people that he has put into these poogss. some of these so-called scandals, are they scandals? tom price s stock trade netted him i think $300. is that something the american people will be so outraged over as some of these senators are? . i don t know that the person public looks at the epa as the golden goose that many of the liberals on capitol hill view it as. what a lot of these democrats really object to is that these are republicans that actually are supporting republican ideals that are being nominated and they don t like it. of course they don t. but i don t know that they re scandals. i think we should make a distinction, right? in tom price s case, we ll talk about that, there s allegation of behavior that might violate the stock act. maybe it didn t but there s clarity that needs there which is distinct from the ideological case. do you agree with katie that this is look, anyone that a republican president nominated for epa democrats won t like what they ll do. anyone they nominate for education they re not going to like what they re going to do. how do you distinguish between normal and abnormal, basically? well, is it an appointment that attempts to nullify the existence of the agency? the senator made this paint. you have pruitt whose job it has been to actually nullify the statutory authority of the epa. to litigate against it. so what? now he s going to be so what? republicans dot n like these agencies. b that should be explicit. if the republicans don t like these agencies and they want to sell to the american public that the epa should not be the environmental protection agency but rather it should be the allow corporations to extract as much as they want they should say it. there s a reason why they re not. republicans have been saying that for years. if betsy devos wants to sell the ideology that they should use government money to simply fund parochial schools they should say it. she s incredibly evasive. that s not what betsy devos stood for at all. and she did not address all the questions that had to do that the senate was asking. so clearly they think it s a problem. that is not what betsy devos has stood for at all. but devos does favor vouchers. she does favor vouchers. what betsy devos has stood for for the last several decades is allowing parents to have choice. not just rich parents who ve had choice for forever but for all parents to have choice and what the democrats on that committee don t seem to understand is all these so-called qualified people that have served at the helm of the department of education have left generations of children in failing schools. they haven t fixed that with these experts. betsy devos is somebody that has a passion for those children and that s what she brings to the table. so you think passion is more important than expertise? i think betsy has a lot of expertise. you thought yesterday she manifested expertise at that hearing? i thought many of the questions that were being asked were designed to trip her up. they weren t designed to assess whether or not she was qualified for this job at all. so you think betsy devos is in the mainstream of there s different kinds of ways of looking at these different nominees. nominees who are trump nominees and nominees who could have been, say, marco rubio nominees and what i hear from you as someone who is an anti-trumper but a die hard republican that betsy devos falls squarely to you within and scott pruitt and tom price, these are all basically your you re good with these as a republican nominee? yeah. i think that betsy falls squarely in that category and has the support of republicans not because she has contributed to those republicans, she knows those republicans and they know her and they know her background and they trust her. well, they know her a little bit because she s contributed to them. you know, the democrats want to make this about contributions and her wealth. betsy devos is on record as saying that she does not believe that christian philanthropy can fund christian education and she is looking for other sources. she is on record saying this. she is on record saying she doesn t believe in public school, she believes in the concept of public education where you take public funding and fund private schools. and everyone knows she did not say she doesn t believe in public schools. that is false. that is false. she is just looking to drain money from the system and we know how this works out. subsidies for people living in poverty do not work in terms of providing them spa i private schools. bottom line. but trapping kids in failing schools works very, very well. she s not even attempting to fix the public schools. she s totally disregarding them and wants to undercut the entire system. that s not true. charter schools are public schools. charter schools are public schools. if that s her position she should be up front about it. let me intervene for a moment. to katie s point, it strikes me there s ways of undoing things statutorily and through administration so you could but republicans could, for instance, get rid of the department of education, they could get rid of the epa, they won t do those things even if they don t believe in the current mission of it. i will say this. do you think there s a standard that people what should the standard be, katie, for you when you think about what is the standard that i would not as a senator vote for someone from my own party? we haven t even touched ben carson who an incredibly accomplished career as a neurosurgeon, i think everyone would agree. beby his own admission knows nothing about housing policy and his own spokesperson said he shouldn t run a federal agency because he doesn t know enough earlier. we re just sort of letting that one go because he s not a lightning rod in the way these ones we re talking about but that also seems to me like i don t know. what do you think of that? well i think the trump administration is in a very, very difficult place with both the liberals on capitol hill and with the media because if they bring in so-called experts that have been doing this for decades he s accused of not draining the swamp. if he brings in outsiders that have different kinds of expertise and a different approach then he s accused of not bringing in people that know what they re doing. i do think there s some disagreement about what the approach to public education should be. the democrats are completely beholding to randy weingarten and the teachers unions and are never going to do anything that challenges that. betsy devos is a threat to them because she s going to challenge that. is that what education is about? a problem with teachers unions? she could not even answer it s certainly part of the problem. the most fundamental questions that faces educators today about growth versus proficiency. let me wrap this up with one little point in terms of behold on the randy weingarten, as someone who s interviewed her a lot, it was tremendous dissatisfaction with arne duncan across the board from teachers unions, an incredible civil war inn the democratic party. i wouldn t say it s lockstep. i m sure it pales to how she feels about betsy devos. on that we agree. katie packer, sam seder, thank you very much. up next, what we know about tom price s stock prides that are raising ethical questions. it s something that came up often in yet another confirmation hearing. did you take additional actions after that date to advance your plan to help the company that you now own stock in. i m offended by the insinuation, senator. well, let me read what you did. you may be offended, but here s what you did. i can stay. i m good. i won t be late hey mom. yeah. no kissing on the first date, alright? 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the stock was bought by a by a broker who was making those decisions. i wasn t making those decisions. so let s just be clear. this is not just a stockbroker someone you pay to handle the paperwork this is someone who buys stock at your direction. this is someone who buys and sells the stock you want them to buy and sell. not tr not true. so when you found out that s not true, senator. so you decide not to tell them? wink wink nod nod and we re supposed to believe that. senator, do people care if he profited off this? what is your sense of why this should matter? well, i hope people care about this. obviously mr. price is responsible for his investments. these are investments that are personal and he s made several in the industry in which he serves on the committee that can affect the value of those companies. that in and of itself is the appearance of conflict but when we look at the fact that he may have gotten a special deal being able to buy some of the stock, the fact that he bought the stock and introduced legislation that could affect its value, that raises very serious ethical issues and perhaps legal issues. the person who should be secretary of health should not have those types of ethical lapses. i have to say, senator, that part of the old cliche about the scandals what s legal has been illuminating to see what exactly you guys in congress are able to do within the law. for instance, buying preferred stock from a company at a place you regulate but the stock act was introduced to cut out the worst excesses after a big investigation. the trump folks are saying the cnn report is wrong, that it should be retracted and that representative price had no idea that stock was being purchased for that hip company when he was going to introduce legislation that benefitted them a week later do you believe congressman price? you re absolutely right about the stock act. it was passed in order to prevent these types of abuses. i think this should never have been done. a congressman should not be buying stock in a company and introducing legislation that affects its value. a congressman should not be buying stock in a company he s on a committee that could affect its value and the congressman certainly should be sensitive to getting special considerations of buying into a company perhaps at a reduced price. no. there s two issues here. was it legal? that s an issue that i can not answer but certainly this is something that is raises very serious ethical challenges at a minimum and one that raises questions about dr. price. i ask if you would adhere to that same standard for yourself. absolutely. i have divested of any individual stocks because i don t want to be engaged in any second guessing. it s not just conflicts, i don t want to have the appearance of conflicts so yes i m care to feel the type of investments i participate in and try to use generic type funds. so. so there s two allegations here, specific allegations and then what has been established but not contested which is that as congressman with a key role in statutory oversight of the medical industry he was individually picking stocks in that industry at the same time he s voting for or drafting legislation that has a direct affect on the companies in that industry. and that presents a real challenge at a minimum you re going to have appearance of conflicts. you might have direct conflicts. you may have illegal action. it s something a congressman should avoid. senator cardin, thank you for your time tonight. appreciate it. thank you. coming up, senator bernie sanders goes head to head with trump s epa pick. that sight after this short break. trust me, you do not want to miss it. 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i think that s a matter best left to the states. so some states might be good to kids with disabilities and other states might not so good and then what? people can just move around the country if they don t like how their kids are being treated? i think that s an issue that s best left to the states. i want to go back to the individuals with disabilities in education act. that s a federal civil rights law so do you stand by your statement a few minutes ago that it should be up to the states whether to follow it? the law must be followed federal law must be followed where federal dollars are in play. so were you unaware what i just asked you about the idea, that it was a federal law? i may have confused it. i do have to say, i m concerned that you seem so unfamiliar with it. joining me now, senator maggie hassan of new hampshire, member of the senate committee on health, education, labor and pensions. senator, what was your impression of what this nominee does and doesn t know about this fairly significant landmark piece of civil rights education. chris, it s nice to be with you tonight. you know, education and access to quality education for all our kids is really the foundation of our democracy. in my family, that includes making sure that both of my children, including making sure both of my children had access to quality education and our now adult son ben happens to have very severe and pervasive physical disabilities. ben doesn t speak, he can t use his fingers to access a keyboard but he s very cognitively able and because of the provisions of th i. i d.ea. the individuals with disabilities education act he had access in our community to learn and graduate from high school. and that s the kind of opportunity we all want for all of our children. and before the i.d.ea. was passed, children like my son were often put in institutions where they didn t have access to education, people assumed or stereotyped them believing they couldn t learn and when you think about the importance of that civil rights law to children like my son and children around the country it was really concerning to me that ms. devos seemed so unfamiliar with it. and problems with the voucher system she has supported has had in honoring the i.d.e.a. what do you say to people that say that senate democrats on that committee are essentially playing gotcha. that you are trying to quiz her and go into obscure areas of policy in order to catch her. there is nothing obscure to my family about the i.d.e.a. there is nothing obscure to most educators i know about the importance of educating all our children what i was trying to get at when i talked with ms. devos at the hearing was my concern about the fact that the voucher programs that she had supported made children with disabilities if they were to receive a voucher like kids without disabilities do it made those kids sign away their rights under the i.d.e.a. so i thought it was very important to get her perspective on why she thought that was okay and whether she would, as secretary of education, the country s top education officer charged with making sure that all of our kids have access to free, appropriate public education so that they can thrive and participate in the 21st century, be the work force we need. i wanted to make sure she was committed to enforcing civil rights laws that protect all children so that they have access to education and i was very concerned that she seemed confused or unfamiliar with the fact the i.d.e.a. is a federal law she would be charged with enforcing and i think it s appropriate that we make sure that the country s top education officer really does understand the full obligations in the way our public education system works. i was very concerned she was so unfamiliar with such a basic thing and that goes to concerns a lot of us have that ms. devos does not have experience significant experience with public education, didn t go to public schools herself, her children don t, she s never been a teacher. so i just was very concerned. senator, are you going to vote for her? look, i m going to wait t get her written answers to all of the questio we ve submitted but i think it s unlikely. senate orr maggie hassan, thank you very much, appreciate it. thank you. still to come, once he is president, could donald trump just stop any further investigation into russia s role in hacking during the election? we ll talk about that ahead. plus, tonight s thing 1 thing 2 starts right after this break. i use what s already inside me to reach my goals. so i liked when my doctor told me that i may reach my blood sugar and a1c goals by activating what s within me with once-weekly trulicity. trulicity is not insulin. it helps activate my body to do what it s supposed to do release its own insulin. trulicity responds when my blood sugar rises. i take it once a week, and it works 24/7. it comes in an easy-to-use pen. and i may even lose a little weight. trulicity is a once-weekly injectable prescription medicine to improve blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes when used with diet and exercise. trulicity is not insulin. it should not be the first medicine to treat diabetes, or for people with type 1 diabetes or diabetic ketoacidosis. do not take trulicity if you or a family member has had medullary thyroid cancer, if you ve had multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2, or if you are allergic to trulicity. stop trulicity and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms such as itching, rash, or trouble breathing; a lump or swelling in your neck; or severe pain in your stomach area. serious side effects may include pancreatitis, which can be fatal. taking trulicity with a sulfonylurea or insulin increases your risk for low blood sugar. common side effects include nausea, diarrhea, vomiting, decreased appetite, and indigestion. some side effects can lead to dehydration, which may make existing kidney problems worse. with trulicity, i click to activate what s within me. if you want help improving your a1c and blood sugar numbers with a non-insulin option, click to activate your within. ask your doctor about once-weekly trulicity. i love paying extra to file my state returns. i want my tax software to charge me at the last second. there is nothing i can do with an extra $50. said no one ever. file your taxes for free with credit karma tax. thing 1 tonight, in march of last year after donald trump s primary victories in mississippi and michigan, he offered up a shameless display of what he claimed were trump products that supposedly included a stack of trump steaks. but trump steaks was a business venture lasting in earnest for just two months in the summer of 2007. the meat on display that night appears to have been purchased from a local florida butcher shop. in fact, it was still bearing the labels from said butcher shop. they were not, in other words, trump steaks, they were stage props. trump used a similar staging tactic last week during his long-awaited press conference when he appeared with a stack of manila folders on the desk next to him claiming they were signed documents making it official he had turned control of his businesses over to his sons but when reportersxamine the folders, transition staffers blocked them. from photos, the folders completely appeared to be brand new and unmarked. his team later told us they were visual aids. today, two days before the inauguration speech trump released a photo that leaves you asking is that real or is it staged? you make the call. thing 2 in 60 seconds. appears he s writing the first draft of his speech with a sharpie. it appears to be a brand new legal pad. is it real or staged? as one twitter user pointed out, that desk looks like the mar-a-lago receptionist desk rather than a personal office. would the president-elect really be writing the speech there? after spending entirely too much time looking at these two images an all in producer noticed the tiling is slightly different so inconclusive. then this image was unearthed and mystery solved. look at the desk next to receptionist. add an eagle statue and it appears trump sat down next to the mar-a-lago receptionist to draft his first speech as president of the united states with a sharpie and a brand spanking new note pad. while we can t tell what s on the page because it s conveniently tilted up, well, it all seems perfectly believable to me. um. something wrong? so when it comes to pain relievers, why put up with just part of a day? you want the whole thing? 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they are very clear. there are rules about not investigating anything in which you were a member of in the previous two years but they re more specific when it relates to political campaigns and they say point blank if you were involved in a political campaign in an official position which jeff sessions was, he was the chair of donald trump s national security advisory committee on the campaign, you cannot be involved in that investigation so that means if jeff sessions is going to follow the rules he has to recuse himself on day one, the day he joins. and he actually has an outstanding question on this matter from democratic senators who have asked him the answer to that and it s going to be telling what his response is and hopefully he provides that before confirmation. what about comey s role in all of this. you have been critical of the way he s conducted himself in terms of the clinton investigation. you felt he was way outside the norms and precedent. do you i guess fundamentally, do you have faith or trust in him that they that this if there is an investigation that they will pursue it doggedly and let the chips fall where they may? you know, i have fifaith in m comey to pursue this information, but why did he do this before the election? now with him under investigation himself by the inspector general, i think it s very difficult for him to lead this investigation. i really think the thing needs to be taken out of the regular chain of command at the justice department. there needs to be a special counsel, a special set of fbi agents that have full authority to investigate this and go wherever the facts lead them. and, you know, not have to worry about is there precedent for that matthew? yeah, there is. there have been special counsels appointed, eric holder appointed several. in fact, general mukasey appointed several at the end of the bush administration. when there are serious political things that are tough for attorneys general to investigate, there s long standing precedent for doing this and the only way you can have a fair unquestioned investigation into this. matthew miller, thank you for being with me tonight. appreciate it. thank you. that s all in for this evening. the rachel maddow show starts right now. good evening, rachel. good evening, chris, thanks, my friend. you bet. thanks for staying with us