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throughout the several sessions in which i represented her and we're expecting more transcripts over the next couple days and also expecting, expected this yesterday, to get the final report from this committee if they can get it out today. >> standing by to stand by. paula reid, thank you for reporting. bring in harry litman, former u.s. attorney and former assistant deputy attorney general and lydia, former attorney to vice president mike pence. we remember hutchinson's test about lunging forward in the car on january 6th. told her then attorney about that, he told her, no, no, no, no, no. we don't want to go there. we don't want to talk about that. does that qualify as obstruction of justice for him to tell her, no, don't talk about that? >> it does and also qualifies when she said perjury. told her repeatedly, just say
it made me very emotional. i can only imagine the fear cassidy hutchinson was feeling and deep loneliness feeling in that moment. that is the type of pressure campaign these people do and coming at her from all directions and from an extensive circle. right? we see the conversation where bondi former attorney general of florida calls her trying to connect her once again to other people in the trump world and all of that. i think it's disturbing to see this, because a lot of these people are still out there, powerful people, and then you have this young fwwoman in her mid-20s wanted to serve her country went to the white house and ends up in this situation. aisl i'll say this. the conversation with her mom saying they will ruin my life that is very real. you heard. of us well familiar with what that feels like, and when that comes at you, you do feel alone especially when you don't have the means to push back on it.
the prospect genuinely scared plea. i've seen this world ruin peoples lives or try to ruin people's careers and seen how vicious they could be. she did stress that passantino never explicitly told her to lie. hutchinson said her breaking point with passantino came in june when he advised her not to speak to the committee anymore, risking contempt is a small risk but running to the right is better for you. hutchinson eventually hired another lawyer before her blockbuster testimony for the committee, of course, we know, proved some of the most damning testimony against the former president. cnn reached out to passantino for comment an hutchinson's interview and provide add statement earlier to cnn this week saying he was ethical when presenting hutchinson and said he believed her initial round of testimony to the committee was truthful and that she was being cooperative's in a statement said i believe ms. hutchinson was being truthful and cooperative with the committee
paula reid is with me now. what are we learning from her testimony? >> reporter: the transcripts and new reporting from cnn reveal these details about the pressure campaign that hutchinson faced from allies of the former president. hutchinson is, of course a former aide to white house chief of staff mark meadows and told the committee that her first lawyer stefan passantino repeatedly asked her to downplay her role in the white house and say she did not recall certain events. she said he and other trump associates dangled job offers around the time of her first two depositions with the committee. her lawyers and others told her to remain loyal to trump and she would "be taken care of." how she described her experience with her lawyer to the committee. she said, it wasn't just i had stefan sitting next to meep it was almost like it felt i had trump looking over my shoulder, because i knew in some fashion it would get back to him if i said anything he would find disloyal.