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On trump. Im howard kurtz and this is mediabuzz. The debate will be hosted by bret baier and Martha Maccallum. I spoke to the anchor of the story from new york. Martha maccallum, welcome. Hi, howie, good to be with you. Howie i havent seen a build up like this for a first debate at the beginning of a campaign since that 2015 Fox Debate With Political Newcomer donald trump. I turned to the other channels i see fox debate. What are people saying . Why do you think that is . I think theres a lot of enthusiasm. I think people are much more politically engaged and probably since that 2015 debate an...

Why would fani willis want to try 19 cases and deal with 19 lawyers and sets of objections? >> well, that's a great question. i'm not a legal expert. i will defer to her on how she wants to handle this prosecution but georgia is a great example politically, howie. the fact that donald trump is screwed up the republican operation in that state they lost two senate seats. he lost the state to joe biden, and that state that is in many ways quite conservative is now trending blue so i think, howie, there are a lot of republican voters when asked by a pollster foil loyalty of donald trump and say t...

Esther has been trying to convince you he owns her body and it's a manufactured noise. the science changes. that's the skepticism. >> we have to have a standard metric. we cannot shift faced on the race of the person or their gender or ideology or anything else. this is health. there is a standard metric and we have to stick to it. whatever it is. let's agree upon it and say this is healthy, this isn't. the outcomes will be the same, kayleigh. you deal with cancer and heart problems and all the other comorbidities that, with obesity. that's just the way it is. >> i heard that all the time from...