black lives matter. here is darnell moore. organizer of black lives matter. first of all, welcome, what s your question? thank you for having the conversation. so rudy giuliani recently made the assertion that black live matter movement, a movement that is rounded in notions of respect, dignity, justice, and sanctity of black life, this was inherently racist, interested on your thoughts. do you agree with the former mayor of new york city, rudy giuliani. i think if there was a movement called white lives matter, it would be considered racist. so i think that all lives matter. i spent 35 years as a matter of fact, today is my 35th anniversary as a police officer. starting here in new york city. and for 35 years i ve been trying to reduce crime and stop murders. and didn t matter if they were black, white, green, or purple. i m a believer that we have to get by the differences, we have to have an honest conversation which i hope this is going to open up. and at the end of the day, we have to have exposure to each other, and we have to sit down and really rip at this thing and get after it. just applause, people who believe that black lives matter is racist and offensive. if you believe there is a white lives matter, would it be considered racist? do you think it would be considered racist? there s no reason they don t need a white lives matter. because it s already, it s already understood that white lives matter. excuse me, hold on, hold on one second. i m going to use a simple analogy. if you and i went to the store, both ordered hamburgers and they gave you yours and i didn t get mine. is it discrimination? is it racist because i say where is my burger? then you say all burgers matter, i m glad you have yours, but what about mine? go ahead, gary. i m sorry, don, but the data you showed up the police shot more white people this year than black folks. now by the way, i m not dismissing the issue in no way, shape, or form am i doing it, i m merely presenting an alternative thought. listen, hang on, everybody. he thinks that you are dismissing his issue by saying that. are you listening? do you hear him? absolutely i m listening. absolutely i m listening. i want to comment on what the former mayor said hold on. hang on, hang on, go ahead. sure, i m cory lanceman, i chair the committee of courts and legal services. of course all lives matter, but as a white guy, i ve never felt that my life didn t matter. i ve never been pulled over for driving while white, i ve never been subject to a stop and frisk, and i don t understand why it s so hard for white people to not appreciate the fact that people of color have a different experience with law enforcement in this country. and so when folks say, that black lives matter, they re not saying that white lives don t, what they re saying is they want their lives to matter as much as mine does. yeah. [ applause ] so listen, i want to play this, sedrick, i m coming to you, before you, i want to play this. this was the current speaker of the house in this very studio when he was asked about black lives matter and questioner put it distinctly to him. listen. you re saying black lives matter because people, people feel like they re being discriminated against and they re not safe because of the color of their skin. so that s profound. and because people believe that we have to listen to that and we have to hear about it, we have to understand it, and then, instead of just talking, let s go try solving it. we appreciate you listening. so when you hear black lives matter, it s a reminder. just keep listening to the message. originally he said he thought it was divisive, and he didn t think that that term should be used, sedrick, what do you say? let me start by saying this, this construct in this country is wrong. period. that s part of the problem. historically it has a context to it, but like you heard charles said earlier, when you think about it in the present, there are just so many things wrong. so, rudy giuliani was irresponsible to state that black lives matter is a terrorist group. those are young, american men and women who had for their reason in their space, in their time, had a reason to respond to what they saw was a social injustice he said it s racist. no, they re not racist. that goes back to trayvon martin, to brown, and up to this day. and what has happened, if you look back over this country, there have been other groups that as a result of social questions, particularly around communities of color, have developed a number of different groups that have come along. ie, black panther party whether you like them or not. a host of other groups. snake, sdlc, you name them, but we still live in a country that is divided by race, and we don t want technology, but here s what we do have to acknowledge. is that there s so many things that are so convoluted, so complicated, and now we re at this place in american history that involves policing in community, which has been bumping heads for years, but we ve seen great progress, though don, but to gary s point, and i understand what gary s saying as a police chief. i understand what he s saying when you re asking me to come into some of the most challenged communities in america, rather it s in new york city or dekalb county, georgia, get the crime out, go in, and there s nothing wrong with stop and frisk, the problem is exactly what charles was saying. it is that terry s stop is not wrong, it s the utilization in how we do it. if you don t do it professionally, you don t do it in the way that it was sangted, then there s a problem, but many times, oftentimes, in many communities that are challenged by crime, we have police officers, black and white by the way, that will go into these communities and take it upon themselves to enforce laws that have gone way out of bound. and then we re stuck with it and we re stuck in this place we are. i want to get back to it, thank you very much. i want to get back to our audience questions now. this is a director of community relations in new york city, department of homeless services. what s your question? great, thank you. so i want to preface this question by saying that i m asking it as a proud public servant of a very vulnerable population, as a loving sister and daughter of law enforcement officers and also as a concerned citizen in this country who has witnessed up close and personal, members of my race being mistreated and humiliated via racial profiling. and so my question for you all is how can we say that the margins of police officers in this community are not racist or have an implicit bias against african americans when every african american in this country has either experienced racial profiling or know someone who has experienced racial profiling. how can we then say there s only a small segment of police officers that are engaging in this practice? tom jackson is here, and tom jackson, first, let me introduce you, you may find him familiar. former police chief of ferguson, missouri, he was there during the officer darren wilson and the investigation found that your police department, routinely stereotyped and discriminated against african american residents, not just your department, according to cnn and kizer family foundation poll, one in five black americans to her point felt they had been treated unfairly by police in just the last month. okay. one in 30 white americans, one in 30 as opposed to one in five white americans felt that they had been mistreated by police in the last month. so is this a few bad cops or a systemic problem? well, first of all, i know what it s like to be called a racist. because that s, that s the narrative that came of me after 35-year career of proud law enforcement. but the fact is that i heard about the talk during the ferguson thing, and it was the first time i d heard that. and when it was brought to my attention during a town hall in ferguson, i was saddened by that. i couldn t imagine they have to talk to my kids and tell them that. but also, i could tell you that police officers do not go out and routinely say, i want to have a confrontation with anybody. they go out to do a job to serve and protect, and the ones that i have worked with for the past 35, 36 years are proud of what they do, they believe in what they do, and they do it for the right reasons. and i think but is this something that s i don t think people consciously, i think people, you know, agree with you consciously that police officers are doing this, but is this something that s engrained in society? is it engrained in the training, police academy or just being on the force? i don t think it s engrained at all. what i think we have it was brought to the floor a little while ago and it s what chief brown from dallas said, too much is being put on police officers. too much of society s ails. one of the big problems we have, we had in ferguson is concentrated poverty, which i think is at the root of the problem. we re taking poor people and concentrating them in small areas with hud programs that are well-intentioned, and well-meaning, but are unregulated. so we have the responsibility that goes to the police. so we have elevated crime, broken down families, lack of educational, lack of jobs, lack of hope. so you say police it s more than just keeping the peace now. as the chief in dallas said, it s a number of too many police have to wear too many hats and it s not fair. absolutely. but the issue though, the issue though is one of abuse and brutality and excessive force. and that s where the specifics are. i know that police have a lot of hats, but part of that is just being a police officer. right, right. well, no officer should use excessive force and when they do, they should be held accountable. just like everybody else, but i think we need to be unequivocal in our support of law enforcement as a profession. you know, we don t equivocate when we say we support our military, except the bad ones. the bad ones should be held to account, but we need to be unequivocal in saying that we, as a country, support law enforcement, and we need to redefine the role of law enforcement so that it s more effective, and so there s less confrontation between the police and the community. i m so glad you re here, recently you just for a long time after michael brown, you didn t say anything. you sort of, i don t know if you went into the hiding. i did. this is one of your first times speaking, you thought this was important enough to be here. why are you here? the last week, i saw those two officer-involved shootings, and then i saw the visit reel and the hatred, everything come out from the whole community. and it brought me back to ferguson when i saw, you know, these lines of hundreds and sometimes thousands of people just shouting death threats at the officers that were out there on the line. every single night. for months. yeah. and it just brought it all back. i want to play something for the audience. and this is from tim scott who is a republican. it happened today, it was a very moving moment on the floor in washington. listen to this. i want to go to a time in my life when i was an elected official, and share just a couple of stories as an elected official. but please remember that in the course of one year, i ve been stopped seven times. by law enforcement officers. not four, not five, not six, but seven times. in one year. as an elected official. was i speeding sometimes? sure, but the vast majority of the time i was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood or some other reason just as trivial. i want to go to mark o mara. something you may not know about mark o mara, he defended jorge zimmerman, but you spent most of your career defending young black men or just black people in communities from excessive force, from issues like this, and one thing jorge zimmerman that you re known for, is there any doubt in your mind, mark o mara that african americans are treated differently than white people in the justice system? not at all. and that s the easy answer. but that s the obvious one. and take issue with law enforcement, i love cops, i defend cops, there is no question that when you look at the criminal justice system and it is biassed against the african american community. that s not the problem. the failure to acknowledge it is the problem. [ applause ] because [ applause ] because look, because now we re at a point in 2016 when we are looking at cops, some are looking at cops as the enemy. horribly dangerous for the rest of us. i don t mean for the whites, i mean for the rest of society if we can t trust our cops. they work for us. we employ them. if i gave one of my associates, triple, quadruple the a. work to do, they could not do their job. that s what was being said here so far today, we re making cops do so much more than they can do. and then we pay them poorly, we train them fairly, but then we never give them additional training. we give them one of the most stressful jobs and hold them to a unbelievably high standard. i m a big guy in favor of body cameras, but let me tell you something, when we see more body cameras, we re going to see more stuff we don t like and we ve got to understand that being a cop is a dirty job sometimes. it doesn t allow you to be raigs, does not allow you to racially profile, but we have to give them their due. we have to pay them better, train them better, make sure we don t have cowboys at cops. cadets have to be good. then and only then are we really going to get to. we can talk all we want here, if we get to the point that we have to acknowledge the subtle biases and that the only way we re going to do it as put it out into the front and deal with it, that s where we re going to make progress. more questions from the audience. more questions from the audience when we come right back. we ll be right back. 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[ applause ] i want you to be safe. but i want you to be safe whether or not you re a professional. i want you to be safe if you re a homeless brother, i want you to be safe if english is your second language, i want you to be safe if you have mental health issues. all of them should be safe. every aspect of you should be safe. not everyone should have to pretend like a certain type of person. and so join, join the movement. mark, you don t agree? i don t agree because it s a great grand principle to throw out there to say we should all get along and we should all kumbaya. and we should. we should not have a racial divide in this country anymore. but we do. so i say to him, you do put your hands on the wheel. you do be careful. and maybe you do still have to be extra careful because you re black. but the refuse sal to do that, the refusal to acknowledge that live within a racially divided country doesn t help avoid it because i think it s going to dispose is to continue. if he says no, i m going to join the movement and i m not going to do what would otherwise keep me safe, objectively we haven t really helped. we just haven t. what we re saying is you have to do both. you can be you, but i m just pointing out that not everyone can be you. not everyone s going to present themselves as this professional. and they should be as safe. unfortunately we have to teach our black sons and daughters, remember sandra bland, and i believe today might be the anniversary of that. unfortunately we have to do both. it is the anniversary of her death. and my condolences to her family. you have to put your hands on the steering wheel, you have to be calm, you have to develop a dialogue to bring things down. unfortunately, you have to do that when it should be the responsibility of the police officer, peace officer, to bring calm to every situation. okay. so there were people in this room you guys were saying that people say no, you should not have to do that. if this is about give and take not that he should have to do that you have to commit. do you guys agree that you should do that? put your hands or no? you shouldn t have to do that? maybe you do have to do that. can we just take a moment, as america, and register how profound and immoral it is that we should have to give a certain group in this country a tool box to survive what should otherwise be an innocent interaction. can we just take a moment and understand you were kind of marching over this fact yes you re going to have to doed that, but stay safe. the idea that black and brown parents should have to do this violence to their own children, to say, this is the only thing that will keep you safe is that if you pack this tool box, and you take it with you everywhere you go, and this is not the way that everybody has to behave. and it is not your fault and you have not done anything wrong, but it is because you are who you are and they do not see you as the person that i love, but they see you as a person that they should fear charles, let me jump in here. over the past couple of days, i ve had, i ve said similar things that you shouldn t have to do that. but white parents, white parents in the audience? there are white parents who have contacted me and say they do the same thing, they teach their kids to be respectful to put their hands on the wheel and to do whatever. civil rights attorney frederick lawrence is here. do white parents do that as well? white parents do that as well, i think it s a very different experience. and i think my children, i always taught them, don t sass a cop, i was taught don t sass a cop. i assumed the likelihood of that interaction turning bad is zero. and that s a different experience. what was your question? you had a question. my question, i m thinking back to the beginning which was such a compelling moment of seeking common ground, and i m trying to think of ways in which we can pierce through some of this and seek some common ground. what i wanted to ask was what responsibility should leadership on all sides feel when there are extreme cases, by a few, and i m not saying on the the problems are a few, but when cases of police brutality do happen, what is the responsibility of police unions and police departments to acknowledge that? and when a tragedy like dallas happens, what is the responsibility of social activists to take responsibility and to make statements? and is that a place where we can have some common ground on these problems? and to that point, and that s a great question because the first place is to acknowledge. i m a police administrator, we have had our own issues in our own county, one thing we take responsibility for is that we let the public know here is what happened. here s what we know to this point. and we know there s going to be subsequent investigation, but i think oftentimes what happened is that certain events will happen, we won t acknowledge them, we won t talk about them, we won t share with the community what we know up to this point. i want to go back to a talk low point for just a moment, he s right, as a police administrator, i ve been in the profession for 40 years, don. let me tell you something, no one, no population should have to do anything different than any other population. now, that being said, if we re going to teach people how to conduct themselves, if they re pulled over in a traffic stop then we should teach it to every american in this country. everyone with. no one should have to do anything special. i don t train my men and women that way, i don t know anyone in the state of georgia that trains their people that way because you have to treat people with the same respect you would like to be treated. here s the thing, here s the thing. i had a very heated crowd of people last night in dekalb county who wanted to come out and talk about the issues that were going on. angry people, sad people, hurt people, and woman asked a very important question. she said, i m being told, i tell my children to comply. and it appears that when they re compliant, they still get hurt by the police. so what do i tell them? i will tell you this, and i ll tell the rest of the country this and those who are listening, continue to comply. there is no option to that. we still must comply. to the authority, and if something goes awry, they re disrespectful, that is not, that s not something you deal with on the street. you get that name, you get that badge number, but the point is, there s so much distrust right now in this country between police and community and the starting point in the jumping off point from all of us, don, is going to have to be is that we re going to have to find a place because we can talk about this all night. we can talk about it tomorrow, next week, but until we begin to talk about how do we start the trust and legitimize each other, maybe for the first time, ever, in some communities i think relationships are great and others more challenged, but we can t continue down this road that we re on now. thank you very much for your important question. before you get to that accountability is different i ve got to get over here. and that s what s left out of conversation. to acknowledge the abuse is one thing, but how are you making people whole? what justice is there for the people that have been abused? and i want to get to that part of the conversation because it s one thing to say, yeah, you ve been abused by me, or this system has been abused by my institution, but what s going to be the process to making people whole? part of that i think, solution is a good one. and that suggested the other day, should this be taught in driver s ed, something that you teach people when you re teaching people to drive, how you deal with police officers so it s across the board, everyone is taught that? no, doesn t make a difference at all, neil? we ve got two things here. and we re talking about short term solutions. at least we re trying to solve symptoms of a much larger problem. at the beginning of the discussion tonight, you asked a question, it was asked about the fear of black men in this country. this is something that s never been resolved or it s been perpetuated since slavery. and we have to deal with it. yes, we have to go back and talk with that. talk about that. so since slavery, until now there s always been a tool, there s always been a method, there s always been a policy to vilify the black man. and it s manifesting itself now in what we see every day in policing because it s right in front of you. what s the solution? wait a minute, this is a societal problem how we view the black man. and i m going to tell you something right now. most of the black people also fear the young black man because subconsciously this is what has been fed to us over the years. now, you want to sit there and acknowledge that you don t have some sort of fear before you catch yourself, before you catch yourself and realize that, whoa, wait a minute, i shouldn t be thinking this way, when you see a group of young black men standing on a corner, sagging and doing what they do, but the key is to understand and to recognize that we all have our individual bias. and to recognize 12 and then to control it and not act upon it in a negative way. here s the difference that i got a text from a friend tonight who happens to be black. don, yeah, people are racist and people have biases and even blacks have biases against other blacks. you better believe it. but the difference is that we give them a chance. we give people a chance, even though we may fear them. we still give them more of a chance than a white person may give them. and does the system back up that bias? it s one thing if i m bias towards you, but i m not allowed to be. we gave a moment of silence for sandra bland, but the not a moment of justice for sandra bland. thank you. [ applause ] we re speaking about young black men and fearing them, you re here with your 14-year-old son. you can see her beautiful hair, she s here with her young black son and you have a question about fear, right? about fearing young kids. you know, my question goes deeper than fearing young black children, my son is 14 years old. he s 5 7 , he has corn rows, he likes to sag his pants no matter how much i tell him to put a belt on and pull them up. so my question to you is if i m constantly teaching him to be responsible, to be accountable for his actions and you can ask anyone who speaks to him. he is extremely respectful to any and everyone. it s yes, ma am, no, ma am, and i won t have anything less. if i m teaching him to do this, and he s yes, ma am, yes, ma am, yes, ma am, but in the back of my mind, i know that it s not going to matter. every moment he s not with me, i fear for his life. my question is, i keep telling my son what he should do, i cheap hearing you tell me to tell my son what to do. my 14-year-old is sitting right there, so you tell him he needs to be more respectful. you tell him he needs to be more compliant to your rules and your laws. because i ve told him and obviously it doesn t matter because you re telling me i m not telling him enough. sandra. here s what i would say, all of us in this room and people across this country understand exactly what you re saying. because young black men and women of color, young people, period, regardless who they are have been told what you need to do an somehow it don t feel like it works. but here s what i will say, we in law enforcement have work to do. we got to change some things as well too. we got to train better, we got to recruit better, we got to provide culture, diversity, and sensitivity training, but you know what, let s put culture and sensitivity training aside for a moment. i want to recruit you, you re already coming sensitized and culturally aware of differences, we need to recruit from there so that when your son or gary s child or any of our sons and daughter come in contact with the police, there s a shared responsibility in that interaction. and all that interaction is not placed upon your 14-year-old son, but it s also placed upon that professional law enforcement officer. there are a lot of things across this country that are being done at this very moment, 21st century task force report, 59 recommendations that have been forwarded from the president, out into this community have been implemented in a number of police departments across this country that will address exactly what you re talking about. but there are many departments that are adopting it and those staying away from it. here s what i will say, people like myself, my good friend gary that aye known and i know where his heart is in all of this. people like charles blow and mark, we are in this fight to try to make a difference. and we all are taking some responsibility, yeah, in law enforcement, criminal justice, we have a responsibility so that you don t have to be fearful when your son goes out into the community. i want gary to respond. this mother s here shaking, you know, and you, quite honestly, as a white police officer. what do you say to her that will help? do you feel what she s saying? i absolutely hear what she s saying. and there s not an answer to your question. i can t think of an answer. the only thing that i could think about is what i explained to you is exactly what i explain to this young man about a car stop is exactly how i act during a car stop. and i think back to my marine corps drill instructorer who raised me in a certain fashion just like you re talking about the way that you re raising your son. and i don t know the answer to your question, but i want to support what s sedrick just said. and i kind of want to almost make an offer if i may, everybody in this country now who knows who david brown is. david is a friend of mine. david, i was the vice president of the major city chief s association, it s a 67 biggest jurisdictions in the country. a lot of people in this room have been saying, you re not hearing this, you don t understand that, i don t think that s the case. i m certainly listening. i m certainly hearing it. i ve been hearing it. and i can tell you that my former colleagues, in the major city chief s association and iacp, institutions like perf, noble, there are institutions in law enforcement that should be sitting down with black lives matter. and i ll try and facilitate that meeting because there has to be conversation [ applause ] there has to be conversation, there has to be exposure, and i think that you ll be shocked to hear the responses from some of the these police executives. david brown is not the exception. david brown is a great example of them. thank you. thank you very much. i ve got to get a break. i ve got to get a break in. we ll be right back. 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[ applause ] is that where the healing begins? i think that s where it begins. i think it s so, so very important that we don t only hear what is being said. we hear the cry of the heart. as a postor iastor, we conducte funeral for a police officer, when i heard her cry it brought tears to my eyes. we do 400 funerals a year. this needs to stop. you said something to me in the break about, you said, you want me to talk more about economic opportunities. yes, because what this gentleman said over here, i almost leaped out of my seat, we have allowed these communities to develop a hope slessness and despair with no jobs and no opportunities. we have a criminal justice system that needs to be overhauled. they can t vote, they can t get a place to stay, they can t get a job. and then we start talking to them about more responsibility. we have a lot of problems to fix beyond the police officers and while there are issues with the police officers, our country as a whole needs to focus on poverty, job opportunities, rehabbing our cities. america can do better than it s doing right now. we need great leadership. we need hearts like what we just saw back there and we need a change of the ses pools of decadents and despair that we call communities today. we need jobs. we need families. we need hope. thank you bishop, and thank you for being so open. thank you, i appreciate that. charles, you talked about economic opportunity all the time. not, i mean not only have we allowed, i think the word aslow very interesting because i don t think history necessarily allows us to stand alone. america created it by design what we call our american ghettos. and there was through urban policies, everything from red lining, that was mortgage policies, banking policies that was the way we built our infrastructure, whether or not we cut straight through those communities, build highways that cut them off from the rest of the cities where they re not rebuilt mass transportation that was easy for them to get to jobs and away from jobs. we didn t simply allow neighborhoods to get bad, we created bad neighborhoods. [ applause ] and as the president said in the memorial service, and now we sit back and fame disbelief when those neighborhoods explode. america, all of america has his hands deep in this dirt. thank you, charles. i have another officer here with me, colonel k.l. williams, you have taught officers for 30 years on how to avoid biassed polices and how to avoid using deadly force, what s your question? first, couple quick things because i ve been sitting, listening, and first of all, i m just going to say, police work is a noble profession. number one, we re a profession out there who people risk their lives who save pokes they don t know. and second, we have to begin to look at the base issues. see, there are officers out there who are willing to step up. you know, they have when you talk about terrorism, they say well, if you see something, say something. i say to my colleagues, if you see something, do something. don t just stand there and watch. don t just stand there and get involved. but see what happens is, when the officer does get involved, guess what, he gets transferred, he gets demoted. he faces some repercussions from his colleagues and therefore that behavior does not change. see, we can deal with this problem tonight. if we really wanted to step out there and do something how so? because the officers out there on the street right now, as we re speaking, they re seeing something that s wrong. they re seeing something that they know should be changed and they should step in and do something and not turning their backs in. i don t know what i saw, i didn t see anything. you have to be responsible. we talk about accountability. yes, i teach a class called, racially and culturally biassed policing, if the accountability stopping and does is not supported by the higher ups, if it stops and this officer feels i ll never move anywhere in the department, i ll speak up. there s a code. when you graduate from that police academy, i guarantee that you are going to be indoctrinated into a philosophy that if you don t tow the line, you re going to have problems. and that is the bottom line. now we can dance around it all you want and somebody spoke on some other issues, if you think that racism and white supremacy is not involved in police departments, you better check yourself. [ applause ] because the kkk has been involved in law enforcement from where it just about started. you can look at the historical perspective, bring it back to today, but the bottom line is, we have an obligation. i have had more guns pointed at my head as a young man before i became a police officer, i don t even know how i made it. and when you look up to a shotgun that s pointing at you, it changes you. i knew i could never change the condition from the outside, i had to go from the inside, but let me get to my question [ laughter ] [ applause ] i have talked, i have traveled, i have spoken to police officers who have told me that they believe that black people are genetically predisposed to be criminals, genetically predisposed, let that sink in for a minute, and it is their obligation to control these people by whatever means are necessary. all right. i want to bring in now criminal defense attorney, how do you he s got a very good point. how do you weed that out and deal with that? well, i think what we have to do is we need better vetting of police officers when they come into the system. there s also a perception and it s real, that the police officers are an occupying force because very few of the police officers actually live in the communities in which they are to police. so we need better vetting, we need better recruitment and police officers living in the neighborhoods in which they patrol and we have district attorneys that do not rubber stamp the actions of police officers. is he right though when he says if you think that discrimination and racism is not involved in police departments and you are out of your mind, you need to check yourself. racism is part of our society. why would it not spill into police departments? police officers believe that there s a culture of them against us. and the fact of the matter is because we care about black lives, does not mean we re demonizing police officers. and once we come to that understanding that we can have this conversation without saying that all white police officers are bad. then we can make some ground and by common ground which we can make some solutions. gary, go ahead. i m just listening and fascinated. i would hire if i still had chicago police. there comes a time when the car can no longer be repaired. okay. we need a new car. okay. let s stop trying the 21st century policing thing by the president and wonderful people sat on that panel, but we need a new policing model, period. this does not work. it never worked. it s time for us to do something new to rebuild from the ground up. police departments should be governed, controlled by their communities. we need we don t need a chief who runs the entire police department after being hired by the mayor, what we need is a board of citizens, yes, local politicians, business leaders, faith leaders, in charge of the philosophy of the and we re back. we have questions now. rab rabbi colin is here. thank you for hosting this. in a conversation i had recently over the last couple of days with an african-american staff member in our community, she told me that every time her brother gets in a car, he is terrified. she is terrified that he is going to have an interaction with a police officer that something goes wrong in it and her brother will end up dead. what is your question really quickly, i don t mean to be disrespectful. not at all. one of the things she said to me is she is terrified, she is so exhausted that it seems like things will have to get a lot worse before they get better and i guess my question is, jewish tradition, we re taught to ask the question. [ speaking in a foreign language ] if not now, when? what are the leadership and the risks we need take can you special prosecutors, we need to hold police accountable when they abuse people. they need to be brought to justice. everything that i ve been saying and that is the hard piece. it is easy to have running man contests between police and community kids but what is hard are these are the police officers that violated people in the community, they need to be taken off of the force. that peace is not happening. that has not happened. the insidious attack on blacks lives matter is the ridiculous part. blaming them for the divisions in the country is like blaming your doctor who finds the cancer for the cancer. i m presently the ceo of win, the largest provider of shelter to homeless families in new york city and most of our heads of households are single mothers, most african-american and caribbean american. they do not feel their children s live matters. they don t feel the children s lives matter. when i ask what more can they do for their sons, they say their son has never been arrested, isn t in a gang, isn t in drugs. doesn t do drugs. they feel they have to prove their son s worthiness to me. that comes in part from a stereo type that is perpetrated in society, not just by police but by society that crimes perpetrated by blacks when more whites kill whites. how do we stop the attack of the stereo type from dragging black mothers and sons down. mark romero. i think whoever is going to be the next president, we have to have a cabinet level in this country balls we re not doing it. it is due. do you have a mike, sergeant? i want to bring in sergeant brett barnun. you may recognize him. you were hugging a young african-american boy two years ago, right? tell me about this moment as we go to the end of the show here. i think the picture says it all. i m hugging a young man who is looking for, he is looking for resolve in his own heart and i happen to notice him and i could have turned my back. i could have looked away. but like a lot of folks, like demitri talked about earlier, i m a police officer and i m here to help my community. if my community needed help and vonte needed help that day, i tried to provide that to him. we all need today come together and we could have done this forever but i want to thank everyone for joining us tonight. i want to thank all of you here in the studio and everyone at home for watching and i want to encourage everyone to continue this conversation that we began tonight. continue where we left off. again, thank you so much for joining us this evening. have a great night. thanks, everybody. is it a force of nature? or a sales event? the summer of audi sales event is here. get up to a $5,000 bonus on select audi models. thosthey are.sses? do i look smarter? yeah, a little. you re making money now, are you investing? well, i ve been doing some research. let me introduce you to our broker. how much does he charge? i don t know. okay. uh, do you get your fees back if you re not happy? 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talk about the president now signaling expansion of deportations of undocumented immigrants in the country. what is the white house saying? he is indeed. sent two memorandums to the department of homeland security saying going to enforce existing u.s. law. anyone in country as undocumented immigrant could be subject to being arrested. this is different from the obama administration that was generally reserved for criminals, a violent criminal. didn t have the bandwidth to go after everyone but sean spicer made clear that everybody undocumented could now be at risk. everybody who is here illegally is subject to removal at any time. that s consistent with every country, not just ours. if you re in this country in illegal manner, obviously there s a provision that could ensure you be removed. but the priority the president has laid for and i.c.e. is putting forward through dhs s guidance is make sure people who pose a risk to security are priority of their efforts. to make clear white house is saying indeed, criminals, people with records and other things are the top of the priority list to be deported. but simply making suggestions that all laws will be enforced is causing alarm throughout immigrant communities tonight. and this is just the first of a few steps. still waiting this week for a new executive order here for the travel ban we ve been talking about for weeks. could come tomorrow or as the week goes on. tell us about the dreamers. young immigrants brought to this country as children. that was one of the executive orders that president obama signed into law, saying that any young person who comes to the country illegally or not could stay. they are called dreamers. daca act if you will. president trump is not touching that for now at least. they say they re prioritizing criminals and others. they re not even looking at dreamers. but it s clear that this is a for now. it s unclear what will be happening in months and years to come. for now, the dreamers are off the table and immigration hardliners will raise questions against administration on this. they believe they re break the law too regardless of their age. and you asked sean spicer about how much authority lieutenant general h.r. mcmaster will have. what did he have to say? other big thing going on in the second month of this white house. general h.r. mcmaster, long time army strategist is now in charge of all of this, i asked sean spicer at white house briefing if he would have the ability to put his own advisers in the national security council and sean spicer said absolutely, he has full authority to do so. but the question is steve bannon. if you remember from a month or so ago, chief strategist of the white house was made part of the principals committee. aligned with the secretary of the usually not a polit adviser at the table like this. asked if national security adviser would have opportunity to speak on that. sean spicer said he would indeed but president have to make the final determination. national security advisor first time in security room. unclear how it will be going forward but he s building a new team here and this is the continuation of this reboot as we head into the second month. jeff zeleny, thank you very much. bring in bill crystal. glo gloria borger, van jones and former governor of arizona. gang is all here. seeing a fundamental shift in u.s. immigration policy expanding number of individuals who can be deported or detained. controversial but seeing president trump fulfill a key campaign promise. he is. this is what he said he will do. aside from dreamers said going to keep obama s policy on dreamers as jeff pointed out. this is what he promised in the campaign. however, there are lots of questions tonight. the president s executive order calls for hiring of 10,000 new enforcement agents. that could cost anywhere, just looked at estimates between $1 and $4 billion, added to the cost of the wall, over $20 billion and you have to wonder how this is going to be paid for. and how long it s going to take for all of these changes to take effect. the administration said this isn t changed, this is just the kind of strong enforcement that the nation should have had all along. but there are lots of immigration experts who say by adding this huge police force here, you re giving people broad authority to detain, arrest and deport that they never had before. how different is it though gloria than the previous administration s deportation policy. they called president obama the deporter in chief. he deported two million people. what president obama did said that illegal immigrants convicted of serious crimes should be the priority for deportation. now customs and border control can remove anyone convicted of a crime and question is what is a crime? is a crime a dui? tax evasion? it seems that everything is going to be lumped together. and they don t know yet. not spelled out. we have to see as it s implemented who gets deported and what is constituted as serious enough crime to be deported. van jones, white house says the goal is not mass deportation, just making it easier to deport people. biggest concern? i think if you take a step back, easy i to get down into the weeds. this and that. sends signal that america is less friendly and welcoming place. you can t calculate what that means to the country. in other words you have a lot of people who are here right now going to be afraid, less willing to cooperate with law enforcement. see a crime, afraid to call the cops, do a number of things. but also people who look at ban on the seven muslim countries and this think to themselves, i used to want to come to the united states, be part of that country, i don t think they want me. so i m going to keep my genius to myself, try another way. and you could literally be suffering from we had a brain drain to our favor, so many great people wanted to come here. i m afraid some of the great people want to leave here. lot of americans are okay with that. sometimes we think that americans are great because so many americans born here are great. remember your high school class, got a lot of americans kind of mediocre. but we attract a disproportionate number of amazing people to the country. really gives us that edge. throw that away, don t know what the consequences will be long-term. i know you re pleased, heard you speak about illegal immigration in your state but dreamers governor, white house says they re safe for now. how do you feel about that? well, you know, first of all, don, i would like to say that what he proposed today is simply enforcing existing laws. we that live in america, think we all want to believe that we all are living under the laws. and if we don t like the laws, change the laws. but dealing with illegal immigration is a very difficult situation because it has a lot of issues connected to it. first and foremost, he wants to deport convicted illegal immigrants. naem have been charged and convicted. that s the number one priority. he s not doing anything different than what he promised the people of america and he won that election and people of america support him in that direction. agree with you. that s first question to gloery but specifically about the dreermz. they re okay. how do you feel about that? personally, i don t believe it s a top priority. i know they re here and probably lived here a long time and came for reasons that their parents brought them to have a better life but bottom line is they are illegal. i don t think going go door-to-door and have major raids on the dreamers. fact of the matter is, if wanted to do that, would have already. do you think they should be able to do it? law says they can do it sure. i want to bring think there s a human instinct that we understand there s an issue there. but first and foremost don, and think everybody will agree, we have a lot of issues to deal with. first and foremost got to get the border secured. but to sit here and sky is falling because we re going to enforce the law, come on. it is the law. it is i don t think has said that on this panel. debate it. of course. new immigration policy. we should be debating it. nobody is saying the sky is falling. it s not new immigration policy. he s enforcing existing laws. that s what new policy is. that s what policy is way i don t understand why saying should be debating this. we re americas. that s what we do. what we do in the media, why we have a free media and why you re here and want i haven t heard anyone say the sky is falling, simply talking about the new plan that was proposed and trying to make heads or tails of it. no one is saying the sky is falling. that he s going to enforce the existing laws. you made that point and gloria did it as. and don t want too think it s illegal. if you want the law changed, change the law. in the meantime we have illegal immigration across our borders and we have to deal with it. bill is sitting here patiently. doesn t deal with anyone coming across the borders. maybe deters people thinking be deported more quickly. in that respect, so much of the campaign rhetoric is about the wall. so far. main republican objection is partly lax enforcement of the laws under obama and now trump is that s policy. he s ordering dhs. back to your point. another anything before that. dreamers, that was the complaint. republican complaint was that president obama did something the legislation didn t authorize. early said i need legislation. he does it. republicans scream and yell. trump makes it piece of his campaign and reverse it and he s not doing that. hard to tell with trump. he s just enforcing the law, not changing anything with bravado and appealing to base. getting tough. guess what, the dreermz stay. just enforcing the law lal more. or is he as van suggested fundamentally changing attitudes towards immigrants. and in that case it s more saying just enforcing the law. former president called deporter in chief because deported so many people. but administration failed us before, can you say the two things at the same time? most of the deportations were before he modified his instructions in how to enforce the law to dhs, prosecutorial discretion. interesting question. and lot depends on how it sim plemted. with a lot of trump s policy. talk and bravado and keep the base harder, end of the day fairly normal and more conservative administration than obama s obviously. or fundamental change in american policy? personally relieved if it s the same. i ve been hawkish on immigration but van s point is important. don t send the message to the world that we think the u.s. is unmanageable, the borders overrun and cities teeming with people here illegally. and got to panic. it s not true and not good for the president to convey this that way. want to talk about african-americans and antisemitism and all in washington but citizen with this and talk about that. do it after the break. cost of this. is it worth it? then talk about the other thing when we come right back. we ll be back. bster, starting at $14.99. for a limited time, we re pairing our tender, juicy signature steaks with a mouthwatering steamed lobster tail. but, hurry in. starting at $14.99, a deal this good won t last for long! on a perfect car, then smash it into a tree. your insurance company raises your rates. maybe you should ve done more research on them. for drivers with accident forgiveness, liberty mutual won t raise your rates due to your first accident. and if you do have an accident, our claims centers are available to assist you 24/7. call for a free quote today. liberty stands with you™. liberty mutual insurance. mobility is very important to me. that s why i use e trade mobile. it s on all my mobile devices, so it suits my mobile lifestyle. and it keeps my investments fully mobile. even when i m on the move. sign up at etrade.com and get up to six hundred dollars. that has everything to do with the people in here. their training is developed by the same company who designed, engineered, and built the cars. they ve got the parts, tools, and know-how to help keep your ford running strong. 35,000 specialists all across america. no one knows your ford better than ford. and ford service. right now, get the works! a synthetic blend oil change, tire rotation, brake inspection and more for $29.95 or less. the whole country booking on choice hotels.com. four words, badda book. badda boom. let it sink in. shouldn t we say we have the lowest price? 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what is the priority of the republicans in the congress versus the priority of president trump. thus my first question to you, what is the priority. quickly van. we have more to talk about. there s another cost. human cost which i think people talk about. also economic. people act as if undocumented population is just sitting around hoping they don t get deported. these people work every day, catch the early bus. work in service and agriculture and building trades. start chasing these people out. drive up costs to everybody else for everything. these are pillars of our economy. part of the reason there s concern here is stopped telling ourselves the truth about how the country works. undocumented community is contributing tremendously to america. knock out pillars and have unintended kens kwenss. economically and morally. president went to the museum of african-american pledged to unite a divided country. how do you see the actions on immigration and another travel ban impacting that? i don t think it helps much. i see this president struggling with himself. on the one hand i think he really does not want to be a divider, seen as someone with hatred in his heart. but on the other hand some of the things he s done and said has incited at least given comfort to people in this country who deserve no comfort. including the alt-right thing, rebranded neonazis. and president has extra burden. it s unfair but has extra burden to speak out more boldly against some of these folks trying to ride his coattails, slap them off every day. they re vocal and horrific online every day. another subject governor. everybody else needs to weigh in but don t have time. seen republicans face rowdy crowds across the country. now the president is weighing in, saying the so-called angry crowds are actually in numerous cases planned out by liberal activists. what is your response to the town halls? you know, don, there s people out there that are angry, they want answers. they re afraid. i assume talking about obama haj care issue right? and it is a concern. of a lot of people. they got to come up with a solution. i don t know exactly what they re going to do. going to affect arizona in some manner because arizona has a different type of health plan. it s gold standard for the country but if they do block granting we ll lose a molot of money. we weighed in to be hopefully part of the solution. i know the majority of people out there realize that health insurance is important to each and every person whether you re healthy or not, you want insurance just in case. that s why called insurance. going have to come up with a solution. i m watching carefully. i never supported obamacare or affordable care act but when it got enacted, i expanded medicaid and people appreciated that and saved lives. and worried about that taken away. rightfully so. they are. and president trump speaking out against anti-semitism following rash of bombings and threats. meaningful reminder of why we have to fight bigotry, intolerance and hatred in all of its very ugly forms. the anti-semitic threats targeting our jewish community and community centers are horrible. and are painful. and a very sad reminder of the work that still must be done to root out hate and prejudice and evil. so the question is, bill, he did do it. but people are asking what took the president so long. why do you think it took the president so long and what did you think about what he had to say? no idea if maybe should have said it earlier but i thought what he said was appropriate and hope we hear more of that donald trump and less of the tweeting donald trump and incendiary and divisive donald trump. president s tone does matter as van was saying. and think appropriate tone. one word about what jan brewer said, very conservative governor with conservative standards basically saying i m worried about republican plan to block grant medicaid and reduce payments for arizona. it shows that governing is hard. idea is he s got a republican majority and ram through replacement for obamacare, that s where the rubber hits the road. can you govern successfully. that s the last word on this. see you again soon. president trump condemning anti-semitism finally today. reaction not 100% positive. talk about that next. the best simple veggie dish ever? heart healthy california walnuts. the best simple dinner ever? heart healthy california walnuts. great tasting, heart healthy california walnuts. so simple. get the recipes at walnuts.org. explore your treatment options with specialists who treat only cancer. every stage. every day.. at cancer treatment centers of america. learn more at cancercenter.com/experts what would help is simply being able to recognize a fair price. truecar has pricing data on every make and model, so all you have to do is search for the car you want, there it is. now you re an expert in less than a minute. this is truecar. pay stubs and bank statements to refinance your home. w2s, or you could push that button. 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political pressure? i m sure it was. i take donald trump at his word he s not anti-semite and offended people ask the question. he needs to understand why it s coming up. against a backdrop of rising anti-semitism in europe and the united states. part of this is sadly a virus that exists in muslim and arab communities, particularly in europe but there s another whole piece to this, alt-right white supremacist movement that s flirted with anti-semitism historically more than flirted and does so now. given that so many of these people have supported donald trump, david duke celebrates donald trump, people were asking trump, can you say something about this, can you forthrightly disavow it? that s the context in which it s happening. i don t think anyone thinks trump is antisemite but there s a disturbing rise of anti-semitism and important to condemn the part out of middle eastern communities but there s another part with association of having supported trump. people are looking to him to say i don t want your support if you re antismooit. he s the leader of the free world. and there s disconnect, when you ask him or his people to denounce it. he s not anti-semitic. that s not the question. but why not be as forceful in denouncing that as other things or talks about the media. it s question of moral leadership. somebody did analysis of donald trump s major speeches and pointed out almost uniquely as american president and presidential candidate, the words that rarely appear in his vocabulary on the campaign trail or inaugural are words like democracy, liberty, justice. things that often are seen as american president setting a certain moral tone or aspirational idealism. this is part of it. statement of moral leadership. nobody is saying you re anti-semite but can you raise the dialogue, condemn evil and celebrate virtue. and stop taking it as personal attack. when you re president of the united states it s about the american people, not you. and there s disturbing thing he does with the media, i thought this would be a good question. good questions are questions that the public needs information on, needs to know your opinion on. good questions are not softball questions. ann frank center said too little and too late. sudden acknowledgment is band-aid on the cancer of anti-semitism in his administration. this was pathetic as terrific of conzrengs. do you think the comments a band-aid? i think people were grateful. do you think it should be reduced to that context? i don t know exactly what that statement is referring to. i think as a fairly if you re going to make charges that serious about the president and the administration, you need to provide clear evidence. i haven t seen evidence of anti-semitism out of the trump white house. there s one issue of the holocaust remembrance day sthamt took out reference to jews that was unfortunate. but i think that seems wildly overdrawn honestly but if there s a charge be specific, don t have this general characterization. general to some hyperbolic statement. response on the immigration policy. expanding number of individuals to be deported or detained. what do you think? this is what donald trump promised on the campaign trail. if they re going to do it, they will recognize that the united states is made of is a country of immigrants. these people are rooted in the fabric of the society. in many cases these are people who many employers, many communities have tacitly integrated. we are as culpable as they are in terms of wanting their labor, their involvement. i think will be more wrenching and disruptive than people realize. i think that the best solution to the immigration problem is to try to figure out how do we make this work going forward so we don t have a situation where people are pouring across the border illegally but to be rounding up people and deporting them for often minor offenses, there s something about it that feels very wrong. it feels different from the america that we ve known. think about it, for decades and decades, we haven t done this. there have been debates about immigration but talking about actually deporting over 1 million, 2 million people, what he talked about during the campaign, that s a very different america i think we really need a transparent maybe bipartisan study if the wall will actually do anything. hear so many people saying there s already a fence there and $20 billion that could be used else did where, other solutions. the evidence is clear the wall won t do anything. like generals say, fighting the last war. can t say this statistic enough to people understand. net migration from mexico is below zero. more mexicans going back to mexico than coming. fighting a problem that doesn t exist anymore. and we already have a wall. president named barack obama built it. over the last ten years, 700 miles of wall. parts that don t have wall are water or very rugged terrain, it s not clear it s impediment. key is border patrolling. republicans talked about the brilk to anywhere, this is the wall to anywhere. and can also tunnel under. as donald trump once said nothing will ever stop anybody getting over the kind of wall i m talking about, 30 foot wall, then pauses and said except maybe a 31 foot ladder. answered his own question. thanks fareed zakaria. you heard president trump condemn anti-semitism today but why are threats and attacks on the rise? 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no question. happened in europe. saw it in france, in a number of places. other parts of europe. yes they can escalate. there are two types of threats coalescing at the same time, threats from the alt-right that manifest by these calls and maybe violence but equally important are threats from the hard left, particularly on college campuses. jewish, pro-israel students don t feel comfort on many campuses. saw a film called hate spaces about what is going on. we have to be nonpartisan about this. easy for republicans to say democra democrats tolerate anti-semitism and for democrats to say the same. we have to band together and condemn both equally. why are hate crimes so unsettling and why targeted now? for a number of reasons but lot of it has to do with people who are scared, feel powerless and alkt out in a way against someone they think of as other. calls for strong leadership condemning that in strongest terms. hate crimes are different because not only affects individual victims but target community. people living across town or across the country don t just feel sorry but as though they themselves are victims, see in racism, anti-semitism and homophobic instances. genius of america is out of many are one. that s torn apart with hate crimes. particularly pernicious. president trump spoke tonight and clearly condemned anti-semitism, gotten criticism not speaking out sooner. do his statements help or put it to rest by any measure? i think it s perfectly adequate but wish he didn t feel he had to. i think it s unreasonable to demand he condemn something when there s no evidence he was in favor of it. i m from st. louis and two of my great grandparents are buried in the cemetery. this is threatening and scary but to put the blame to someone who there s no evidence is blameless one he s the president. he has somebody as chief of staff who has in fact said he came from an organization that was spokes person for the alt-right. we know a lot of people from the alt-right praised election of donald trump. therefore he has obligation to say i don t want your support. if you re anti-semite, i don t want you supporting me. so i m critical of what he said but not as critical as this fringe organization getting publicity now, anne frank center for mutual respect that no one ever heard of before today, not representative of the jewish community. way over. not most anti-semitic in history. roosevelt as far more. let s keep this in perspective. not give 15 minutes of fame to organization nobody ever heard of because willing go over the top and condemn donald trump for doing something that was good thing to do. conversation continues on the other side of the break. fees? 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i don t know if it s that per se but i think it gives comfort to that. that s why what the president did today is good start. important to make clear it has no place in this administration and should get full-throated rejection. david? i m a conservative republican who voted for hillary, not supporter of the president or think he s good for america but let s complain about things that are real. can t produce specific evidence of anti-semitism. this fake holocaust organization that said he had done grotesque acts of anti-semitism, there aren t me. i think he could do more. justice department establish a task force to investigate the phone calls to see if any of them will turn real but i think the democrats will create a problem for themselves tomorrow or this week if they pick keith ellison to head the democratic national committee, close associations with farrakan and didn t recognize he was si anti-semitic. to his credit he tweeted something supporting trump. too little too late. democrats need to be careful not encouraging bigotry from the hard left just as republicans from the hard right. keith ellison tweeted today, why taken donald trump so long to say the word anti-semitism, perhaps something to do with placating his base. that s easy to say. his base are hard left people on college campuses. i want to hear ellison condemn that hasn t he apologized for remarks at question? that s easy too. condemn his base, go after people on the left. that s what takes courage and what i see lacking on both sides. courage. don, when donald trump answers questions, he me anders, talking about this or that and complaints that he refuses to condemn, he is asked a question and says everything, not a focused president. to use as evidence he s got agenda is not fair. there has been don the point is not whether he is or isn t sianti-semitic b it should be easy thing to criticize or condemn. racism should be easy to condemn. that s what is looked for. specifically get this response to milo yiannopoulos and what has happened to him. he was darling of conservatives until yesterday or today. supported free speech and darling of conservatives because band on college campuses, and then conservatives listened to what he had to say and i don t think should be invited to come and speak. he has outrageous views, no university has obligation to invite him. nobody should cancel, sounds too much like censorship. and sounds like conservatives who supported him didn t do homework. it s all out there what he said. just look for it. fascinating conversation. coming back, congressional republicans getting earful from angry constituents across the country and president trump says it s all the fault of activists. g beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all, smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels, and signs reminding everyone to think balance before choosing their beverages. we know you care about reducing the sugar in your family s diet, and we re working to support your efforts. more beverage choices. smaller portions. less sugar. balanceus.org. i m on it.ar does weathertech go to protect your vehicle? 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here. we learned he would prefer a long senate trial with witnesses. i ll do whatever they want to do. it doesn t matter. i wouldn t mind a long process because i d like to see the whistle-blower who s a fraud. the whistle-blower wrote a false report, and i really blew it up when i released the transcript of the call. and then schiff gets up and he i blew him up, too, because he went up in front of congress, and he made a statement about what i said that was totally false. cnn s kristen holmes is at the white house. president trump seems like he s going to be fully involved in this senate fight after abstaining from the house portion of this. good morning, victor. you re absolutely right. president trump at heart is a show producer. he would like the whistle-blower to testify. he would like adam schiff to testify, making it a splashy trial. but senate republicans, many of them, they re concerned about that. they don t want to open the door to more witnesses broughty birepublicans because that means more witnesses brought by democrats. remember the senators will malt lilt finally decide what the trial looks like. we know majority leader mitch mcconnell has been working on this. they agreed to work together. they said they would be working in close coordination. now, just this conversation between the two of them enraged house democrats who said it was completely unfair. take a listen. the foreman of the jury, mcconnell, is going to coordinate with the rules that. makes no sense whatsoever. that is an outrage. of course, we do know. we ve tried to reach out to a lot of these senate republicans. we re jurors. however mitch mcconnell said this. not surprising, they were coordinating their strategy. we re on the same side. our dana bash talked to tom daschle who was the senate majority leader, a democrat, during the clinton impeachment. he said while he did not talk to clinton at the time, his staff was working very closely with the white house staff. they were trying to get all the logistics, the moving parts in place. he said that was a necessity. kristen, when you talk about witnesses and the president wants to call some. that would make them in his camp vulnerable. we understand his personal lawyer rudy giuliani was at the white house. what do we know about this. this is an act of a defiance by president trump. this is the day that these articles are being voted. and the man who is at the center of all of this impeachment is here showing up at the white house that. is president essentially saying i don t care what happens. like this is what i am doing right now. this is my tragedy. that is all part of the not retreating strategy. keep this in mind. the entire impeachment is centered around this idea that president trump and giuliani together were running this pressure campaign on ukraine to try to get information about the bidens. we do know that giuliani was just over in ukraine. president trump spoken about that visit a come of days ago saying giuliani had information about congress, president trump s allies. so it s possible that trip was one of the things that came up during that visit yesterday. but again giuliani showing up here moments before that vote. that is president trump essentially saying take me on. i believe this is a hoax and i just don t care what you guys think. all righty. kristen holmes. appreciate the update. thank you. with us now to discuss all this gentlemen, welcome back and good morning to you. good morning. so let s start here. rudy giuliani. the wall street journal reporting the president called as he landed back in the u.s. after the trip to ukraine and asked what did he get. he told according to the report the president, more than you can imagine. he s come pieipiling a 20-page . does i got to trump, twitter, doj, fox news, or does it end upton senate floor in this trial? it seems like president trump is the only person who wants to hear from rudy giuliani. even republicans in the senate, members have been keeping him at arm s length because he has been livewire in this entire process. he pursued this scheme to try to dig up dirt on the bidens, try to pressure ukrainians to investigate the bidens. he s been hinting at this bombshell he s had for several months now and we haven t seen any evidence and some of the people he s dealing with in the ukraine are known widely as corrupt individuals. some are known. it s not clear that anyone even within the republican circles wants to hear what rudy giuliani has to say, but because president trump is keeping them so close and trying to force his evidence or his proposed evidence on the senate runs, it does appear they re going to try to get rudy giuliani and whatever he s saying to be part of this senate impeachment trial, but it s not clear that they want to bring them into the process. paul, consider this. we ve heard in recent weeks senator grand, senator kennedy, senator cruz as well add some suspicion or expressed some suspicion over ukraine s influence or meddling in the 2016 election. is it a foregone conclusion that we will not hear the results or the episode of giuliani s mysteries in this senate trial? well t president s reendorsement of giuliani suggests we may well hear some things that giuliani claims to have discovered on his trips to ukraine. this has, of course, always been a central part of the president s defense that anything done with it had a legitimate foreign policy reason, and, two, expressing ukrainian involvement was always going to be a relevant investigation. obviously it was the russian investigation that occurred, so that was proper. so why not a ukrainian investigation. i think we ll hear more from giuliani. it s actually a very striking and public endorsement of giuliani that the president continues to meet with him. a lot of people thought the president might distance himself from giuliani because some of giuliani s statements have been pretty wild and pretty outrageous, but i think he s going to play a prominent role in the impeachment. last hour we spoke about some of the house moderates who were uneasy about potentially voting for articles of impeachment. let s flip it and talk this hour about some of the progressives, the activists in the party. i mean there s a piece of the atlantic this weekend who were dissatisfied with the narrow scope of these two articles of impeachment. is there a significant fear or concern about those dissatisfied progressive activists, and is there potential pushback, consequence, for the narrow scope? there is some concern trying to bring together the liberal progressive wings and more moderate wings of this impeachment will be very difficult in part because you have the progressives who say president trump should have been impeached a long time ago including several of the presidential candidates who are saying the mueller report has plenty of evidence and nothing about the report, nothing about ee moll meants has made its way. i think several democrat is progressives are very happy we re at least finally impeaching the president. i think they ve been wishing for this for a while and i think there s less concern they will voice their displeasure and that some of the moderates will ultimately vote against these articles of impeachment. you ve heard from a couple of democrats, and there could be a handful or more. that s something that has them a little more worried about, that they could lose some people on their right or moderate flank. let s turn to the supreme court. the supreme court said yesterday they will take up fights. these subpoenas in three separate cases to get the president s financial records. before we get into the political implications, detail for us. just drive home the significance of the acceptance of this case and what it means for this court. well, it s very important that the supreme court did accept the case. in a way it helps the president because the court won t get to this case until they ll probably start looking at it in march. they may not issue a decision until june. until then tax records will not be released. that s a victory for the trump administration. over the long run, the court in accepting the case is going to decide a very important thing and that is whether the financial records of a president, the tax records in particular, can be legitimately subpoenaed, one n a criminal proceeding because there s been a criminal proceeding in new york issued and, two, by kron gregsal oversight committees for assistance to help in drafting legislation. they re looking at whether new legislation may be needed to deal with a president that has an enormous array of business dealings which we haven t really confronted in the past new state. so there are a lot of important principles here. the other thing i wanted to add that we really haven t touched on, too, is the wild card in these impeachment proceedings is john roberts, chief justice of the united states. what role is he going to play. remember, he s going to be ruling on the admissibility of evidence. he can rule on whether it s promote or totally irrelevant to call witnesses. we ve got to see how john roberts shapes up as a major character in these proceedings as well. he will certainly be watched closely. thank you both. thank you, victor. breaking overnight, north korea has claimed for a second time in a week here that it s conducted a, quote, crucial test at a missile site. so state-run media says a launch happened friday northwest of pyongyang, but north korea will not say exactly what it tested, not even specifically fit was a launch. cnn s paula hancocks live. we know north korea, paula, claims this test was part of what it calls a nuclear deterrence system. what are you hearing from where you are? reporter: we well, they say they don t have anything specific that they can confirm at this point, so they re obviously analyzing the information as well to try to figure out what exactly it was that north korea has tested. they have said it was crucial. they have said it was very successful and part of a nuclear deterrent. the very fact that it s the second test is significant. this is a missile launching site, and it s the one that u.s. president donald trump had said he promised him he would shut down. there was satellite imagery proving he was dismantling this area. earlier this year there was satellite imagery proving it was being rebuilt once again. it shows once again how the relationship between the u.s. and north korea is deteriorating. we re seeing more rhetoric as well between the two leaders. the words dotard and rocket man have resurfaced showing that things are not going well. this comes just a day before steve beacon, the u.s. special representative for north korea, arrives here in seoul. he s going to be meeting with south korean officials. it was a last-ditch effort to put them back on track, but, of course, with north korea carrying out this test just before he arrives here, it s showing north korea is focused on the christmas gift it s promised the united states and the deadline for washington. once again we re back to speculation, trying to figure out exactly what north korea is going to test next and, of course, what this christmas gift could possibly be. paula hancocks, appreciate it so much. thank you. consider this if you have those in-home security cameras. a family in tennessee is claiming that hackers accessed their cameras and watched their daughter in her bedroom. who is that? i m your best friend. i m santa claus. also, there s new information out of new zealand this morning following the eruption of a volcano on white island. we ll tell you what s happening now. it s a game where pageantry meets history on the football field. here s coy wire. reporter: welcome to philadelphia, pennsylvania at independence hall when thomas jefferson signed the declaration of independence. it s also the home of the nation s 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and she does not believe the city s information has been compromised. youtube channels posing as u.s. yououtlets have posed as n sites. it automatically creates channels on certain topics. youtube has shut down many of the accounts now. it raises questions, though, about the company s preparedness for tackling misinformation on its platform weeks before the iowa caucuses. cnn reporter dodi . these accounts are run from southeast asia by scammers and spammers trying to make money from those sort of ads you see on youtube. these false images going viral seen at least 10 million times on the platform. it was brought by a company who briefed youtube and they took down system of these channels as a result of that research. again, as you said, it raises a lot of question as to how prepared these platforms like youtube were like a few weeks ago to iowa. good point. i want to focus on another story we re following today, another home security system that was hack hacked. it makes you wonder how long they were watching them. what. wait. does your child look like an oreo? so the come was i want you to envision this. you re in your home, you re cooking dinner, and all of a sudden a voice comes up in your home and is talking to you and telling you things that you have been doing. a couple many mississippi say a hacker harassed their 8-year-old daughter. look at that. who is that? i m your best friend. i m santa claus. okay. so then the girl screams for her mother there because, again, she s in her bedroom. all of a sudden this person comes up and starts talking to her out of nowhere. people at home are going, how do i make sure this doesn t happen to me. to that you say what? the sort of sad thing about this is the hackers probably weren t even all that sophisticated. many of us use the same passwords across all of our different programs, email, ring logins, social media. years ago myspace was hacked, linked in. it s possible that your password from those services are on the open web and anybody can access them. so if you re then using that password for your ring, that s how a hacker could potentially get in and see what you re doing at your home and speak directly like a voice of god coming into your home. so how do you protect yourself against this? you should change your password frequently. it should not be something someone could easily guess like the name of your pet. you think of the security questions if you get locked out of your accounts, oftentimes s will say what was the name of of your first girlfriend or favorite pet. most of us post photos of our family and dogs. pets and names. so if your dog is named bailey. don t make that your backup security question. also in this case, there s, of course, the two-factor awe them indication where you can get a code texted to your phone. ring is basically suggesting that a lot of these people didn t have two-factor authentication. i think the company should make it a mandatory part of logging into a system like. this people before might not have cared so much of saying, if somebody gets into my email, they get into my email. but this really shows how technology is combining and being part of our real lives. if somebody has your password, they re not just getting into your email account but getting into your home to watch what you re doing. and to maybe try to configure how to get into your home when you re not there. donie o sullivan, thank you so much for the information. officials are saying flat out this was a hate crime, an act of terrorism. plus, we ll talk about hate crimes in america with professor frederik lawrence. s a destine gived lecture ur and an author of punishing hate. that s next. want to shake with . officials say it s being investigated as an act of terrorism with, quote, a hate crime bias slant. cnn s alexandra field has more for us. surveillance video shows the chilling situation as the attack happened. they opened fire. they ve been identified as francine graham and david anderson. authorities say they re now looking for a white van that belonged to anderson as part of the investigation. authorities say the investigation could take weeks or months. they have now recovered five firearms that belonged to the suspects. the suspects also had an improvised explosive device, a viable pipe bomb to get to the market. hundreds of shell casings were also recovered at the scene. it could have been far worse. they credit two police officers who heard the gunfire, ran to the market, and were able to keep the suspects from getting back out on the streets. they had intentions of murdering more than three people. that s not a secret location. that s a known location where the jewish community congregated. there was no question it was a hate crime, rooted in anti-semitism. i m happy we re calling it for what it is. they re now calling it a domestic terrorist tick ic even. along with the three people that they killed inside that kosher market, the shooters also killed a 15-year veteran of the jersey city police department. his body was found about a mile away from that market. he was a father of five. detective joseph seals will be laid to rest in jersey city on tuesday. we have mr. frederick lawrence with us now. he s a distinguished lengcturer and an author of punishing hate. what stood out to you as evidence of a hate crime? the fact that they traveled quite a distance to commit this crime, that they picked the particular location, which is known to be a congregating place for a jewish community, the kosher market, next to a school. people worry about how do you prove racial motivation and sometimes it s hard. i regret to say sometimes it s not hard at all. this case looks like a powerleful case for a religiously motivated hate crime. social media sites are fertile ground for some of these hate groups to pro grow and proceed here. we know there are threats on facebook, youtube, reddit. is there any legal navigation to break down these groups without infringing on, you know, some might say some of it is first amendment right. where is the breakdown there? well, look. the answer is people can express hateful views, but they can t act on those hateful views. so how do you address it when it s happening? the answer is words have consequences. those come from all sources. i think if you listen to what the jersey city mayor has said about this crime, that s the kind of talk that is extremely helpful. it s important we label this as a hate crime, and he s right. i think making that message loud and clear, that you influence people who would otherwise be potentially drawn to this type of behavior. that could be dangerous. is there a rise in hate crimes as you see it, or are we just getting better at identifying? that s a great question. i think we ve gotten better at it. what appears to be happening is, in fact, a rise in hate motivated behavior, which is extremely disturbing. i have to tell you when i first wrote punishing hate, i hoped these issues would be well behind us and would be beyond other things. i would have never dreamed that we would still be dealing with this, but if we are, then it is terribly important that we call these crimes what they are. these crimes don t just have an impact on the individual victims. you ve got jewish americans all over the country who feel victimized by. this it s not just a sympathy. they feel victimized themselves. this is the classic pattern of a hate crime whether it s an ame baptist church that s vandalized. it s not just that church. americans all over the country feel victimized. real quickly, mayor bill de blasio says a unit will be focused on that. is that something? could be. there are otherwise people that might be drawn to this that police are drawn to this. people have to know when they operationalize those beliefs in a criminal way, that those will not only be punished but punished at a higher level because they exact a deeper harm on individuals, target community, and really on the entire society. frederick lawrence, very thoughtful mindset there. thank you so much. good to have you. thank you. good to be with you. the battle over who gets in in 2020 could have consequences. coming up, why nearly a quarter million voters may soon be removed from the rolls. making time magazine s cover, getting hit with criticism by president trump, climate activist greta tonbehun says she needs a break. her plans for the future. not today. you took our conversation about your chronic coronary artery disease to heart. even with a stent procedure, your condition can get worse over time, and keep you at risk of blood clots. so you added xarelto®, to help keep you protected. xarelto®, when taken with low-dose aspirin, is proven to further reduce the risk of blood clots that can cause heart attack, stroke, or cardiovascular death in people with chronic cad. that s because while aspirin can help, it may not be enough to manage your risk 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around climate change. a year ago or i should say in august of 2018 she was one person striking, and in september, she brought 7 million people along with her, and that s really reinvigorated the conversation for climate activists in many ways and also changed a lot of the politics surrounding climate change. that was one obvious reason. the other, there s been a whole slew of different youth movements that have popped up this year and in recent years, and she s sort of the best representative of all of those dichbt mo different movements. she doesn t represent them but she s a sign of the young people standing up and saying it s time to do something different. speaking of doing something different, she spoke to leaders at copp 25, this u.n. climate change meeting in madrid, and she said the strikes, which you mentioned the major strike was last september. achieved nothing, she said, because greenhouse gases have continued to rise. you also heard she said there, she needs a break. is 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