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inadmissible. we will wait for a judge to hear those arguments and see what the judge decides. >> all right, sara murray, manu r raju, kara scannell, thank you. let's talk about it with jennifer rogers and joined by jackie kucinich, washington bureau chief for "the boston globe." we'll remember cnn obtained a copy of who emails that robert costello wrote to michael cohen in 2018 and costello said he was speaking to trump lawyer, then trump lawyer rudy giuliani and then he went on to tell cohen he, quote, could sleep well tonight, because he had, quote, friends in high places. cohen provided those emails to congress in an effort to show that a pardon was dangled before he decided to go ahead and cooperate with federal prosecutors, so knowing what the grand jury in manhattan is hearing today, i guess the question is, who is more credible? michael cohen, or robert costello in your view? >> well, you know, it's hard to
that role, in the movies sometimes they call it a fixer and to be clear fixer doesn't automatically mean you're a criminal but it means you might do more than file motions. so with that in mind let me read from this. we have some of the reporting from back in 2019. costello said he was speaking with trump's lawyer giuliani at the time, reassured cohen in an april 2018 email, cohen could, quote, sleep well tonight as i said, fixer talk. he has friends in high places. emails from 2018 and other documents don't mention a pardon although that would be seem to be an implication when dealing with the fed, no pardon could help donald trump from a future white house with this probe and goes on to say cohen provided the emails to corroborate his claim that a pardon was dangled before he decided to kwoop rate with federal prosecutors. if mr. costello has information factual or helpful to donald trump, by all means it should be a part of the process. that's only fair, on the other
the question is what is michael cohen going to say about what he meant by the fact that he was trying to keep all this under wraps when he says this is the relationship he had with donald trump and he went in person to get his reimbursement for that hush money payment that donald trump personally wrote the check for and signed. so i think that at the root of this is sufficient a very damaging testimony from mr. costello, no question. he's absolutely right that michael cohen made a big mistake that would be a mistake for attorney-client privilege. but mr. costello, who in that room is saying after in that same conversation it was reported that he said you have friends in high places and i'm communicating that from rudy giuliani, it is unclear what all the colors that michael cohen will share, but it has always
that camp but that's not what they're getting. the leaders of the party, ron desantis, donald trump and tucker carlson are molding the party. in one sense, desantis is following the party. to get another sense, these voters are being led by the most influential people in the party to a stance that maybe they wouldn't have otherwise. >> if that's true, jonathan, does that not leave an opening to someone else, a moderate like sununu, or maybe somebody like glenn youngkin, we've been hearing, he's heading to dallas and meeting with a billionaire obviously, it helps to have friends in high places if you're thinking of running for president, which he may be, but there is room for a moderate at any stripe >> i'm not sure i see it liz cheney being the best example, sitting on the january 6th committee and then being
probably got a big mouth tryin and they're probably trying to gain leverage before the plea negotiations are even if it's stupid enough to goe we to trial with the jury. g but, you know, the wife's out st celeearing the empathy' sweatshirt. i mean, yobr in.u can see it ald playing out. you got celebrities coming in. h thinguy haats friends in high places. so you don't know what kind ofgs things he's going to pull off, but he just has to be very careful, because if you push too far , that plea deal disappears. >> he should stop talking.>> yeahh. , yeah. >> and hiding his face. but wear a jacket. the envelope. >> we knew it was you. horrible. up next, kamala harris accused of snubbing the border and ignoring deadly cartel violence. >> so sad to say the same people remember and with a catchy song. >> so i hope you remember that liberty mutual customizes only your home insurance.
lawyer probably has a big mouth, and they're probably trying to gain leverage before the plea negotiations, or even if it's stupid enough to go to trial with the jury. the wife is out there wearing the empathy sweatshirt. you can see it all playing out. you got celebrities coming in. the guy has friends in high places. so you don't know what kind of things he's going to pull off. he has to be very careful, because if you push too far that plea deal disappears. >> he should stop talking. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and hiding his head. >> but wear a jacket. the envelope, we know it was you. horrible. >> up next, kamala harris ignoring deadly cartel violence. type 2 diabetes? discover the ozempic® tri-zone. in my ozempic® tri-zone, i lowered my a1c, cv risk, and lost some weight. in studies, the majority of people
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been with craig at the hunting cabin. >> that night, while i was there. he made the comments that if carrie and philip weren't careful, that he would plan old-school on them. >> do you know what he meant by? that >> i do not. >> the next morning, an odd thing happened at the cabin. craig and robbyn noticed a low flying helicopter that looked as though it was spying on them. robin asked her husband about it later that day. >> carrie told me, that i need to remember he had friends in high places. any pointed up at the sky. and he didn't actually come out and tell me about the helicopter. i said i believe that was you. >> in fact, philip asked a friend to see if the suv was at the cabin. and if so, to take some four photos. he did locate this white suburban park next to craig's truck. my she -- >> he had a very, very angry look on his face. >> ever seen that mad before?
so when you hear how trump tried to call a white house support staff member when you heard that you found it striking, why is that? >> striking because it is exactly what happened to me. i recall i was rated, on april 9, approximately a few days later i receive a phone call from a gentleman named bob castillo who by coincident happens to be rudy giuliani's friend and his current attorney in one of the things that he turned around and said and i don't want to paraphrase it i just want to give you a couple of the very same words that are going here, i spoke with rudy, very positive, you are loved. that's another one of the lines that donald uses. they put their arms around you to ensure that you stayed within the make a great statement which is that the president knows exactly what is going on, sleep tight, sleep well, you have friends in high places. >> what is that saying or sound like to you?
rudy has known for many years in this role, sleep well tonight you have friends in high places. >> this you believe it was from rudy giuliani intermediary, right? >> correct. >> sources are saying people who may have been trying to influence cassidy hutchinson was a mark meadows intermediary. it has been denied. that they were trying to intimidate or influence, do you buy that? >> not for a single second it is exactly, look at the language that bob castillo used, look at the language that mark meadows used and i guarantee there are dozens of other people that they tried to reach out to with the identical language, these are donald's words. put in to an email form because of course you know he doesn't have email, no fingerprints that's his motto so somebody else has to do it. >> why would he call this time if he doesn't usually leave fingerprints? >> again he is not sure who's actually in his camp anymore, he is absolutely petrified that