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kemp has a large lead over david perdue. i want to bring in our dean howard dean. this is one of the weeks were if you watch msnbc you've seen steve at the big board, we have his great company last night. both are still being tallied but a lot of us worry you see the numbers in pennsylvania is really a tale of two states, two primaries, the real question of who will actually turn out in november. are republicans hurting themselves in that he stay? was that the republicans are hurting themselves already all over the place. first of all, this is the republican court that did this. but ...

cheribesaley won. madison cawthorn taken down by his party not for bringing guns on planes or calling ukraine evil or making hitler's home part of his vacation bucket list or alleged misconduct, no, no, but rather for snitching on the alleged republican cocaine orgies. we begin in pennsylvania with a reminder of how elections work. now, you see there are many different ways to vote. there is early voting and voting on election day and filling out mail-y ballots. anyone can vote by mail in pennsylvania but they cannot be counted until election day. that's why in 2020 it took a few day...

transcripts of the interviews it has conducted in its investigation. the request came on april 20th with the doj indicating that some committee interviews may contain information relevant to a criminal investigation we are conducting. nbc news has now confirmed that reporting. the doj did not indicate the number of transcripts they wanted or if there were any specific interviews they were interested in. so far the committee has interviewed more than 1,000 people, including many close to the twice-impeached former president. while attorney general merrick garland has received criticis...

Also juanita, they never declared the steal when they themselves the members of congress who believe in the so-called conspiracy theory, you know, that there was a steal, they didn't think their own elections were stolen. they somehow feel like the dead venezuelan dictator excised just trump's votes and they left their votes so i got elected legitimately but something wrong with -- it never made sense but let's talk about shameless because if you want to talk about shameless, this guy mastriano, he equals trump in shamelessness, he's just not famous. there is a lengthy piece in "the new yorker...

Barnette mastriano and those two on the ballot would make it that much easier for democrats or no? >> joy, you and i both remember 2016 as well. we remember how how the hillary clinton campaign salivated against donald trump, that they would use his sexual history and other past scandals and how they would destroy him and instead all of these rural voters came out of woodwork and donald trump won pennsylvania by 44,000 votes. >> yeah. >> and, you know, there are voters out there who want to stick it to the system. they are mad about gas prices. they are mad about inflation, and you can tell th...