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[inaudible conversations] [inaudible conversations] >> thank you all for being here. let me introduce this panel. gordon heddell ancestors for inspector general since july of 2009. he was acting inspector general from 2008 until 2009. prior to joining the dod ig, mr. heddell served as inspector general for department player. harold geisel, and i seem to [inaudible] >> okay, herald geisel served as deputy inspector general for the state department says june 2008. he is more than 25 years experience for the state department improves a certified teen inspector general since 1994. michae...

contracting. that was followed up with the hiring of mr. john brennan as my principal auditor. >> wended that higher occur? >> that hiring actually occurred the first week of january of 2009. that is when mr. brandon actually came aboard. we commence the process of bringing him to avoid much earlier that. to make you abandon the agency held on when he joined the agency? >> i had been at the agency -- >> since july 2008, correct? >> that's when i was sworn in, correct. >> now, the audit plan the love requires and i'm sure, i hope the person you did was to look at public law 110 and 18...