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The incentive structure it's really hard if you're trying to hand out some carrots when there's nothing you can offer them that will be good enough. >> this is a group who wants to burn it down. kevin offered them everything, and they said no. they don't want it. i also think we should talk about former congressman rodney davis talked about the democrats that they're going to get tired and they're going to step up. nonsense. >> oh, no, they love this. >> nonsense. >> the happiest people on the floor of the house. >> all day, all night and, you know, the only question in my mind, someone said t...

Of all the work you've done. and we're sitting here in th united states right now, looking at all the things that are happening, scared. you've witnessed firsthand the rise of authoritarianism do you look at what's happenin here and have fears that tha could happen here? >> it already is, stephanie. first, thanks for having me. but just listening to kind o -- we heard earlier, you double down that's exactly the kind of incentive structure. our communications - and courage. it's not surprising that's the behavior we see. >> so, you've also witnessed what happens when there' dissent against a di...

>> is that a price? >> yes, it's a price. >> does it include a flight? >> platinum status upgrade, when million velocity points -- >> you get a, facet velocity. i don't know. >> you get shied out of a cannon. >> -- lottery. >> that's the incentive structure we need. or veteran virgin can just get rid of the middle seat. >> no! >> no middle seats. that's the best slogan of an airline ever. >> that said the pandemic, delta was doing no middle seats. that was not the most important thing at the time. but i did appreciate it. >> the reason to take a middle seat is if you are traveling with your ch...

Wants it. tell me if you would take any of this. it's a lottery. five-night cruise to tasmania. >> i mean, sure. circumstances that a prize? >> yes, it's a prize. >> does it include a flight? >> platinum status upgrade. one million velocity points. >> you get there faster. i don't know. >> shot out of a cannon. free flight for two people for each month of the year. totally i would. this is a good lottery. >> that's the incentive structure we need. or virgin can innovate and get rid of the middle seat. >> whoa. >> you really want no middle seats, that's the best slogan ever. >> outside the pand...

And the same lie, a year later, top down from president duterte himself a week later we got our first subpoena, there were 14 investigations, and by january 18, the first shutdown for rapler. it is all same methodology whether it is the philippines against me or whether it is stop the steal in the united states. >> you say that at the heart of the problem, the new problem of today, is social media. explain why. >> it's the way the cascading failures begin. if you think about it like this if you have kids, you're watching this, and then you tell your kids, hey, lie all the time and i'll keep re...