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a legal case, and it's important to remember the context of all the cliches we hear, donald trump fought this and lost this, the video you see on your television screen is something he spent a long time trying to avoid, but he lost and cooperated with this new york attorney general probe, and here's what he said at the start. >> anyone in my position not taking the fifth amendment would be a fool, an absolute fool. i respectfully decline to answer the questions under the rights and privileges afforded to every citizen under the united states constitution. this will be my answer to an...

0 donald trump coming forward with information that is >> bill barr, republicans are giving damaging. >> it is not a partisan witch- hunt? >> i know t it is hard to believe. >> thank you. damning testimony today to talk about coming from the hearings that happened up on the hearing today. a lot to discus. we want to get straight to evan perez, senior justice correspondent. the big headline out of today's hearings, trump's allies, helping the former president overturn the election. tell us more about this and how our lawmakers are responding. >> what we are hearing, a blockbuster already before...

Charge koerscy. he's not important in the grand scheme of things, it's an example of something that's hanging out there unfinished, i think will be finished in indictments and i think we haven't seen all the fruits of all the cooperators, including gates, including flynn. we know flynn met for a number of hours -- a very large number of hours with them. we may have to wait longer and see some of it through other prosecutions, through other offices. >> and you're not getting out of here this easy. do you think this last round could include some big names? >> i do. i have always thought there se...

Could he hand him off to someone else to charge him? yes. it could be that he's waiting to charge koerscy 00 along with other people. he's not important in the grand scheme of things, it's an example of something that's hanging out there unfinished and i think will be finished in indictments and i think we haven't seen all the fruits of all the cooperators, including gates, including flynn. we know flynn met for a number of hours -- a very large number of hours with them. and we haven't seen the fruits of that yet. i think we will some of it through mueller but we may have to wait longer and s...

Get the magnitsky act. i don't know if this gets where we need to get to. does this get you two-thirds vote in the senate? absolutely not. that's my concern. the more i hear about all of this, but i go yeah, if you don't have the smoking gun, if you don't have that one kill shot, is this all for naught? that's my question. >> is that you, harry? >> i was going to say, look, we're certainly spraying a lot of bullets around that do show the structure of a real conspiracy between the campaign and russia. the missing piece, i agree, is some sense of trump's knowledge but there are many possible av...