hollywood. they were talking first about a married women trump had tried to seduce but he didn t use that word. and then talking about the co-star they were going to make. much of is the graphic and obscene. the very fact the such a videotape of the presidential candidate needs such a warrant speaks for itself. i moved on her actually. she was down in palm beach. i moved on her. and i failed. i ll admit it. i did try and [ bleep ]. she was married. wbr id= wbr941 /> her name was nancy. i moved on her heavily. in fact i took her out furniture shopping. i told her i ll show you where you can get some nice furniture. i moved on her like a bitch. but i couldn t get there. and she was married. and all of a sudden i see her, she s now got the big phony tits and everything. she s totally changed her looks. /b> your girl is hot at [ bleep ]. in the purple. whoa. yes. the donald has scored. whoa, my man. wait you got to look okay. you are a maybe it is a different one. no that s her. you got to get this [indiscernible]. you and i will walk out. oh my gosh. maybe it is a different one. no it s her. yeah that s her. with the gold. i got to use some tic tacs just in case i start kissing her. you know i m automatically attracted to beautiful people. it is like a magnet. i start kissing her. when they are a star you can do anything. they let do you do it. grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. all i can see is the legs. oh looks good. come on shorty. ooh nice legs. get out of the way, honey. ooh, that s good legs. just got to make sure you don t fall out of the wbr-id= wbr1784 /> bus. like ford, gerald ford, remember? hello. how are you, hi. mr. trump, how are you. good good. terrific. good to see you. billy bush. hello. are you ready to be a soap star? we re ready. let s go. make me a soap star. have a little hug for the donald. he just got off the bus - have a little hug for the bushy, i just got off the bus. as soon as a beautiful woman shows up always has. come here. yeah. let the little guy in. hard to walk like this. yeah you get in the middle. that s better. that s better. now if you had to choose honestly between one of us. me or the donald. i don t know. that s tough competition. seriously. you had to take one of us as a date. i d have to take the fifth on that one. really? i ll take both. which way? make a right. here we go. here we go. i m going to leave you here. my microphone. you re finish sfd. i m going to go to a show. so nearly immediately after this tape was released by the post the trump campaign put out a statement which used the word apologize, though you can judge for yourself whether it was an apology or not. id reads there is locker room banter that took place many years ago. bill clinton has said worse to me on the golf course. not even close. i apologize if someone was offended. for hillary clinton s part she put out a tweet. this is horrific. we cannot allow this man to become president. let s get more reaction to all this which could impact sunday s debate which anderson is moderating. and mike pence was asked about it while on the trail in ohio. as you heard, no answer from governor mike pence there. however rnc chair reince priebus just weighed in. he said no woman should ever be described in these terms or talked about in this manner, ever. joining us cnn s mj lee and dana bash who just received some new information on how the trump campaign is reacting, literally at this moment. and gloria borger. dana, what s going on inside trump tower right now. as you can imagine deaf con five would probably ban understatement. we only at this point have the statement which is a couple of sentence, which was referring to bill clinton and things that he allegedly said to donald trump on the golf course which he said are worse and so forth. we haven t heard from donald trump himself beyond that. and they are huddling right now the primaries. but he s got to grow. he s got to add people. he s got to add suburban women. married women. women just women. independents. into his voting block. and he s not going to do that with this kind of language. so i think just in terms of the political conversation and the it is just kind of stunning to watch this unfold. dana? john, i just want to add sort of one way to answer that question why is this different now? with the statement that the highest ranking republican member of congress kathleen rogers just put out which is the most telling so far because it is not just about donald trump the words. it is what he suggested do to no those words. or violence against women. if that is the context in which donald trump is caught on tape saying that that is being interpreted, it is a thousand miles further away than him calling somebody a pig or too fat or anything he said about rosie o donnell. this is in a whole different league. he can touch people how he wants, he can grab people ow he wants because he s a star. we got to take a break but before i want to read a tweet from mitt romney who was the last republican nominee. hitting on married women, condoning assault. such vile things degrade our wives and daughters and the world. just ahead. the reporter who broke this story. and also the latest on hurricane matthew. that s ahead on 360. when i was a little kid, i made a deal with myself .it s a canvas for painting. you can t do that on a mac. redid you say 97?97! yes. you know, that reminds me of geico s 97% customer satisfaction rating. 97%? 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it was shocking. this is the voice of donald trump you have heard now for a couple of years solid and a voice you have gotten used to hearing in a political context and here he is discussing this in a pretty lewd and outrageous manner. i was pretty surprised. he calls this locker room bantder. the thing is he s 56 years old. and it is not just crass language. it is predatory. when you are a star you can do it. you can do anything. you can grab them by the and then he goes on. and right. it is not just hey look at that woman, isn t she hot? it goes beyond that. what he does. not describing what he d like to do but what he has done apparently to women. how he s a star he can kiss them if he wants to. he can grope them. that just makes this more interesting and shocking. it is not just like look at that women. she s a ten. he s saying this is what i have done to women in the past and will do again. and you can judge the magnitude of this by the fact that the trump campaign responded very quickly with a statement that included the word apologi apologize. which he s apologizing if anyone was offended. which is a non apology, apology. obviously leaves room for the view that people will listen to this or see this and not be offended by. ive. but certainly is a full step from just apologizing for something you wish you hadn t done. apologizing is different from i m sorry i ever said it. i shouldn t have said it at all. that said he uses the word apology which i m not sure he has used at all this campaign season. so that is a big deal in and of itself from the trump campaign. it is unusual. right though that he s apologizing sort of in a way as i apologize if you take offense. not that i looked at myself and took account of my own moral conduct and decided it was wrong of me to have done this. and in that statement he of course takes on bill clinton. he says bill clinton has said worse things to me on the golf course. i guess it is not surprising he goes after bill clinton on this because that is what he tends do whenever the subject of woman comes up. but again he s not running against bill clinton is he. and bill clinton wasn t on the bus with him that day. this was donald trump and billy bush. donald trump leading the conversation. so whatever he may have heard from bill clinton, unless he s claiming he didn t know these words until bill clinton taught him, i think it is a little irrelevant to what trump said that day in the video. there was not a clinton on the bush. there was a bush on the bus. billy bush who now works for nbc news, i m sure we ll get a response from him also at some point. what kind of legs do you think this has going forward? it is friday night before the second debate. what questions remain unanswered here? i think this will continue to be something people talk about. the difference here is this is audio and video. you are hearing trump in his own words saying these things. it is different hearing it secondhand. i ve been wrong about everything else about the election but it may come up in the debate and something trump is asked about later on. and maybe something mike pence, a strong independent christian will be asked about. and trump s evangelical supporters will be asked about. and a kind of thing that goes to trump s moral character and that could last the next week, maybe longer. people who appear with trump, who have endorsed trump. people like paul ryan certainly could and will be asked about this going forward. thank you so much. thank you. late tonight billy bush did in fact put out a statement. it reads obviously i m embarrassed and ashamed. it s no excuse but this happened eleven years ago. i was youngerish less mature and acted foolishly in playing along. i m very sorry. it is sounds like the kind of thing a lot of college students might be hearing about or warned about on orientations on sexual assault on campuses. lot to discuss here. joining me now. also with us. cnn chief political analyst gloria borjer and cnn political commentators and the political supporters. kayleigh, said no woman should be talked about in this manner ever. exactly right. it was hard to hear those words today s. it is inexcusable. i think the statement was not enough. i think donald trump needs to humble himself and come out to the american people and say i m not the person i was 11 years ago. i m a different person. i m not that person. and i think that he needs to apologize to the american people. because if we know anything about the american people they are forgiving people. they forgave bill clinton for his transgressions in the oval office. and i think they forgive when you humble yourself. and i think that is what he needs to do. apologize. bottom line. inexcusable. not just if people were offended but apologize period. yes. apologize to the american people directly, all of them. amanda carpenter, when you heard this, you had a somewhat visceral reaction. yeah. this is bigger than trump. this is about the republican party. and if there is any elected republican official who doesn t know what to say, they should call up a rape survivor tonight and ask them what they heard when they heard donald trump say these words? this isn t as reince priebus said talking about something that trump describes women this way. trump is saying this is something that he did. this isn t harassment. it is not locker room talk. he is talking about sexual assault. there is no other way to frame this. and listen, i have a 4 and a half-year-old daughter. last night we had the news on and she pointed at the tv and she said is that man a trump. in a couple of years she s going to watch shows like this and know what s going on. and right now this election is going to be about how the republican party treats women. and right now seeing the statements come out from other republicans trying to dismiss this or go past it? i don t know what that answer is. i want to be in this party. but if they will not respect women and recognize that donald trump is boasting about sexual assault, we women cannot stand by this. scotty. well these were comments that were made 11 years ago. and let me agree with kayleigh and amanda. these were horrible comment. no place whether you are a republican or democrat, there is no place for them in america today. and i think we need to hold people that are in pop culture and hollywood who are in our rap music and in our reading we need to hold them accountable just as much for donald trump. but this reconfirms he was not running for office back then. he was a part of a different world than he is now. and he always said i would only run for president if there were no one else to solve the problems we have today. and officially he feels like he s the one who can do it and 14 million people in the primary agree with him. and now i think it is wonderful the timing of this video mahas come out. the same day wikileaks comes out. and . because for political reasons. she says she and her husband she can t really relate to middle class people right. now due to the fact she s not one of them anymore because of all the money her and her husband made. so the timing of this video hang on. it is eleven years ago. yes. but it is not like donald trump was in junior high. he was 59 years old when he said it. so he was a fully formed individual. and gloria borger, again, let s talk about amanda s point right there. the pressure this puts on the republican party now to deal with this. paul ryan is supposed to be on a stage with him tomorrow in wisconsin. what s gonna happen? right. this goes beyond crude talk, to predatory behavior. and i think it is a tipping point right now for the republican party. and i think, you know, my e-mail has kind of been blowing up from republicans who are saying to me. i mean, bush s former campaign manager said to me he s a pig, i m voting for hillary clinton. this is a republican. i think that democrats are going to force republicans to say whether they still support donald trump for president. i think you are going to start hearing calls from republicans privately and then maybe publicly to say what is our plan b here? i think this has gone beyond, again, a matter of crude talk and crude behavior to insults to women to something that s quite frankly predatory. and i think the party has to grapple with this. you have the chairman saying this is inexcusable and then there is a second thing, okay. then what? now what, reince priebus? and i think people are asking themselves that question tonight and i think these are very sad conversations. i feel for the young people who are working in the donald trump campaign who spoke to mj lee about how they feel about pouring their heart and soul into a campaign, and now this tape comes out. so anna navarro. we re going to take a quick break. but when we come back i m going to ask you this question. is there anything donald trump can say tonight to make this go away? is there anything that paul ryan or other republicans that are supporting donald trump can say over the next 24 hours that will satisfy you and make this go away at least for the next 32 days until election day. that is to you anna after the break. also a close watch on hurricane matthew now blamed for four deaths in florida and a new update from the hurricane center coming up. 6 only a few. truly move us. with over one million on the road, wbr id= wbr17955 /> lexus hybrids are always charged and always ready. /b> tell your doctor if you ve been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you ve had tb,. .hepatitis b, are prone to infections, .or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don t start humira if you have an infection. if you re still just managing your symptoms, ask your gastroenterologist about humira. with humira, remission is possible. just a small snippet of the tape. what donald trump needs to do is humble himself before the american people and apologize for the words he said. admit that they were beyond the line. would that satisfy you? no. look, i think what donald trump needs do is quit. i think he needs to stop being the republican nominee. he s dragging this entire process down the gutter. he s dragging the entire republican party down the gutter. you have to understand he cannot win. he is irredeemable. this is not something you are going to recover from. and the reason is because this is consistent behavior from donald trump. this is not a one-time occurrence. we ve heard him throughout the campaign call rosie o donnell a fat wbr-id= wbr20948 /> big, about miss universe. megyn kelly s menstrual cycle. and giving numbers for scores for scoring their bodies. how many times does he get away with saying something image i misogynistic or sexist before we call him it. it is time to condemn the man. it is time to ask him to step down. it is time to tell america he does not represent republican values. he is a pig. he is vile. this is consistent behavior by him. the only difference is that now we have it on tape and now we have it on video. but this man is not fit to be president of the united states. he is not fit to be the republican nominee. he is not fit to be called a man. kailg mcenany, to that point is this an aberration, as scotty was saying, 11 years ago? or is this part of who donald trump is? wbr id= wbr21600 /> because he s said things on the campaign trail this year about women that have raised a lot of eyebrows. he was tweeting about miss universe a week ago. where i disagree, is i don t think any human being is irredeemable. i think the comments is inexcusable. as a christian they don t lay right with me or sit right with me. but also a christian i know when you apologize for something, you are forgiven. and you can wipe away anything you have done in the past because you can be forgiven by the blood of jesus christ. that is what i believe as the christian. i don t think he s irredeemable. i think he s a different person now than he was then and i think if he humbles himself and explains to the american people that i ve learned from people around me and i m a man of honor and i ve learned from that. a father, a grandfather. and everything about this is redeemable. what about mike pence? the trump campaign kicked the pool out. he didn t answer questions on a rope line. how does he respond to this /b> wbr-id= wbr22200 /> going forward? he really has to examine his heart. i mean, to be sure god does forgive but there are just some things that are just disqualifying for someone who wants to be president of the united states. in that tape he s saying that he believes, and he did, he could do anything to women because he was a star. that means he felt he was entitled to assault women because he had power. he s running if are the most powerful office in america. what does that mean he thinks he would be entitled to do? there is really no bounds. once you say you can grab a woman like that, he can t stop himself from kissing someone? assaulting someone? i don t think there is any limit. so i hope mike pence examines his heart, his soul. and, you know, christians may be able to forgive donald trump for his actions and his words. but that does not mean he gets a pass to become president of the united states is this. scotty, how do you respond to this? because you have heard kayleigh who was a trump support say this crossed the line. you have heard folks who are not supporters say this makes them question the very party you are a member of. you are a shrewd political observer and you have followed politics a lock time. trump is having a real problem with women voters. a real problem with independents. does this hurt him irreparably. tlurm a number of women supporting donald trump for one reason only. because he s not hillary clinton. her actions have been even worse and going forward the reason we re supporting mr. trump, why i personally is for my family. i want to be able to protect for my family and i want to be able to provide for my family. nothing do with these words from 11 years or any other things he s said in the past. i care he s going secure our border and preserve my constitution and second amendment rights. and other than that let s stay for the tabloids and talk about the things that matter most for most mother, most women in this world is please, protect my family, provide for my family. something he s put a plan out and we know he will co-and hillary clinton doesn t put emphasis on that. here is the problem. before we even get to discuss agenda. before we even get to discuss policy there is a minimum requirement of morality, of moral compass, of decency, of human empathy, of behaving like an adult. of behaving not like a sexual predator. and if you are incapable of meeting that minimum requirement you can t even talk to me about policy because you are unfit to be on the ballot. and it is time not only donald trump think about what he s doing but republicans who have endorsed him, this is the time to disavow this man. paul ryan, our lonely highs look to you. you are my friend. i though you. you are a decent human being. you are a good husband, a good father. you cannot stand by this man tomorrow. reince priebus, same goes for you. he will ruin the republicans that are on the ballot with him. we cannot afford this. if we re going to have a party that survives we must disown donald trump tonight. we re going take up that thought. we re also going to take up what s going on inside trump tower right now because i have to believe there are big decisions being made as we speak about when he will address this, how he will address it. seems to me he s got to get to this sometime before he takes that debate stage sunday night. a debate by the way that anderson will be moderating. just 48 hours away now from the second presidential debate. in st. louis. our coverage here all day long on sunday. anderson will be one of the moderators along with abc news martha raddatz. and more on hurricane matthew as it makes up the southeastern coast. moved some new cars. hauled a bunch of steel. kept the supermarket shelves stocked. made sure everyone got their latest gadgets. what s up for the next shift? 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and out of the city. it is officially closed. there is in fact a cur fay from 8:00 p.m. to 6:00 a.m. what happens is when the storm surge came in it was meant to be eight feet of storm surge. the mayor said everyone get out. population of about 13 and a half thousand. half of them said no, we re going to stay. they are stuck there now. roads and bridges closed until emergency services say it is safe to reopen them. so that is just one example of what s happening up and down the southeast coast when it comes to storm surge. you know, thousands of people being affected by this. and a lot of damage been done. very historic city st. augustine. probably dmoen to a lot of people. that is the concern up and down the coast. st. augustine, michael thank you o much. a new advisor from the hurricane center just out. what s the latest. well as the category two storm but that means absolutely nothing. it s built up strength for so many days now that category, 3, 4 hurricane is going to see all the water under the eye slam northward and they could see even great storm surge than in st. augustine and jacksonville. we re going to see heavier amounts of rain than we ve already on the coastline. tornado watch is expected from yesterday because of the angle of approach. we dodged a major bullet today with that eye stay 20-25 miles off shore. yesterday talking with anderson we talked about every mile counts. the difference between catastrophic damage and then moderate to severe damage which, occurred. don t get me wrong. it s very bad but it could have been much worse. but now it is going to get worse. the large precipitation shield is all from the eye northward. the greatest effects in the colors of yellow on the northern prieriphery of the i eye will sm with full momentum. georgia south carolina and north carolina. head.e concerned about hilton a big concentration of pine trees. they blow over easily in 45, 50 miles per hour gusts. weak root systems. this model which has been spot 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but, david, she moved on to say she s convinced a trade deal between the u.s. and the ucla is in both kun and the u.k. is in both country s interest but we didn t get a lot of detail. president trump believes in one-on-one trade deals specifically to the exclusion of multi lateral trade deals and would like to get a trade deal done with the united kingdom, particularly after brexit. i think he sees this as a big achievement and binding of president u.k. and united states that have moved at least in his view in a more nationalist direction. that s what he would like to do. i thought the prime minister s comments about nato were so fascinating, really, because there are so many people around the world, u.s. allies, republicans here at home, that are so concerned that trump could diminish the importance of nato as a part of our foreign policy. and they re all trying to tell news the media rest assured trump desiren t believe what respective countries. sandra: and this, david, is coming ahead of the phone call that we believe is happening tomorrow. he was asked about that, he said he believes that has been set up. that conversation would be happening tomorrow. what did you think of his comments leading up to that? well, you know, the interesting thing about russia and vladimir putin, the president never hesitates to say in his words, good, bad or indifferent, about other u.s. adversaries. but he carved out russia for special status. makes you wonder if he s going tossian reset. i don t think the question is whether or not we should have good relations with other countries. that s clearly always preferred. the question is, on whose condition. are we going to have good relationships with russia, china and other adversaries based on what s good for the united nations and the west or what s for the u.s. and the west or what s good for them. sandra: the president was also, i want to get to this sound as well, torture and terror came up in the press conference. here s what the president said on torture specifically. and what decisions he will be making on that, listen. president trump: general james mattis, and he has stated, publicly, that he does not necessarily believe in torture. i don t necessarily agree. but i would tell you that he will override because i m giving him that power. i happen to feel that it does work. i ve been open with that b. that for a long period of time. but i am going with our leaders. sandra: not necessarily what he believes in but he s relying on mattis, he says. lord taylor? well, in relation to this, the president would always put america first, remember that, he won t be the poodle of any other country, i m sure of that n relation to torture, it is imlegal, internationally. off was expressing his opinion. but president trump said he will listen to his advisors. i don t see a problem there. sandra: all right. i think the media looking for problems. be more positive, please. i believe in america. sandra: there are a lot of problems out there. i m going to have to leave it there. you have a great president. thank you. sandra: thank you, david, lord taylor. mr. trump rolls out a flurry of executive orders aimed at cracking down on illegal immigration. one border state governor is making tough moves of his own. we are in a legislative session, we are working on laws that will, one, ban sanctuary cities, we move from office any office holder who promotes sanctuary cities, impose criminal penalties as well as financial penalties. these birds once affected by oil i just want to find a used car start at the new carfax.com show me used trucks with one owner. pretty cool. [laughs] ah. ahem. show me the carfax. start your used car search at the all-new carfax.com. from my sweet dreams? thanks to tena, not tonight! only tena overnight underwear .with its secure barrier system gives you.. .triple protection from leaks, odor and moisture. tena lets you be you hard line on u.s. immigration, signing an order to build a wall along the u.s. border. that decision will have a huge impact on texas which shares more than 1200 miles of common border with mexico. almost all of that land privately owned. and some in the lone star state seem to be split on the president s plan. we can build a wall but it will be a waste of taxpayer dollars and its not going to stop people from coming across the border. we spend billions of dollars on this, we ll take a lot of local people s land for what? to slow people from crossing by two minutes? whether it s brick and mortar wall, some type of fencing, virtual fencing, technology, sensors, aerial surveillance, something needs to be put in place to help the agents. sandra: joining me is texas lt. governor dan patrick. thanks for being here this afternoon, sir. great to be with you. sandra: what do you make of the criticism you re hearing? we ve heard from the same people for a long time. they re just wrong about this issue, san drachl the president is right. we need the wall. as i mentioned yesterday when i was on fox as well, one of the reasons we need the wall, the president has said we re going to deport the criminals in this country illegally. we know, sandra, from looking at case after case after case that we deport them, they come right back. sometimes within days, to commit more crime. you want to keep out the criminals, the drug and the contraband. then you find legal immigration reform so people can cross who want to come into the country for the right reasons and the ones we say we want in the country. right now, it s still a wide open zone in many areas. sandra: i want to share with you what texas g.o.p. representative will herd is saying about the cost. he s saying building a wall is the most expensive and least effective way to secure the border. big bend national park and many areas in my district are perfect examples of where a wall is unnecessary. and would negatively impact the environment. private property rights and the economy. these are not light opinions, and they re really warning people of the state that this will damage the economy? this will damage their ability to do business? it will be costly. well, sandra, congressman heard is a terrific congressman and i was i support him. but i disagree with him in this instance. look, we have, i ve been down on the border many times. folks who have never been down there don t realize in some places it s sonar re you can throw a baseball across it. some of our crossings, can you wade across them. they re just 10 or 15 yards. can you throw a football, short pass across them. other areas are larger. where we need the wall is mainly in our big cities, our big krogings. that s where people cross illegally and disappear into the city. we need a lot of protection around our big cities. then we need walls out in specific areas along the border, where we know a lot of crossings happen, with drugs and criminals. i do agree with the concept, and i don t know what the president s full plan is, but there will be places that we can do it with technology, with air cover, with cameras. we have 4,000 cameras on the border. when you fly over as i have before in helicopters on the border, you can look down at the various paths coming over from mexico in the more remote areas. it will be a combination f i were doing it, of wall particularly in our cities. where you have major city crossings, populations 1600,000 or more, you need to extend the walls to wish people down to those remote areas. easy to spot from the air. easy to signal to the border patrol or our state troopers on the ground, to intercept those people crossing. we can do this. and the private property owners, i ve talked to many of them, i have yet to talk, i m sure there are a few concerned, but i ve yet to talk to anyone who doesn t want a secure border. and that includes their land if they have fencing or technology or a wall, i think most will want to be involved. because up until just recently, until texas put forth a big effort, they were being overrun. they were losing their property. they off would have to carry a gun to go out on their own property. it s dangerous. sandra: i want to move on to another big concern in your state energy the city of austin, texas, and the sanctuary city status. and the words that we heard from austin, texas sheriff sally hernandez, staying i m following all state and federal laws and upholding constitutional rights to due process for all in our criminal justice system. our community is safer when people can report crimes without fear of deportation. and of course that is the goal of many that achieve the sanctuary city status, so the people still come forward. your thoughts and what you would tell how would you respond to her on that? well, first of all, she is very liberal in her thinking on this issue. very clear. and my partner and governor abbott has made it very clear we re going to take money away from her if she does not follow the law. under her guidance, for example, sandra, some one could rob a bank multiple times and she would not consider that a crime to hold some one for. you don t get to select who you want to hold, you follow the federal law as well as state laws or you lose federal funding from trump and state funding from us. and we re going to be very strong about this, sandra. sandra: so be specific when you say you re going to be strong. we re going to fast track within two to three weeks pass the sanctuary city law and it will have teeth in it. sandra: how specifically will you hand that will? that s a cher any of the city of austin. they get state funding and we will hold state funding. i know the governor and our office, we re looking at all funds that go into that city. and in some of our cities in the state it s significant amount of money they need. we will hold their funds if they do not follow the law. and then, i believe president trump will hold federal funds. at some point if you don t follow the law you may find yourself in trouble with the law. all we re asking is for these sheriffs to hold the criminals that are terrorizing our cities, and any cher that i have doesn t want to do that is putting our citizens any sheriff that doesn t at one time do it is putting our citizens in danger. they will be held responsible. sandra: thanks for being here. a live look at the march for life with a, d.c. where vice president mike pence spoke not that long ago. we ll tell you where they re heading. republicans move closer to an obamacare replacement. what did they come up during their retreat? 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[ applause ] sandra: we re live from the national mall in d.c. doug, what was the reaction like to the vice president s speech? i think tremendous enthusiasm here. i think there is a pal possible sense among the marchers, that the epoc has changed. for 44 years marchers have been coming to washington in an effect to try and change row v. wade, overturn or put dents in it in one worm or another. that law has remained in effect for all of those 44 years. there is now a very palpable sense that is going to change. they have a friend in the white house. the president tweeted out this morning as they were assembling, the march for life is so important to all of you marching, you have my full support n addition, heavy hitters in the administration, kellyanne conway and vice president mike pence, who is the was high-ranking public official over to speak at this gathering, spoke here today. here s pence and some of what he had to say. it is this administration, we ll work with the congress to end taxpayer funding of abortion and abortion providers. and we will devote those resources to healthcare services for women across america. as you heard, he also said in that earlier sound bite, life is winning again. this crowd definitely senses that. you see it in the crowd. sandra: how does this play into the upcoming battle over the supreme court nominee? that s really the linchpin upon which change hinges. people are excited about president trump s pick for a nominee. we know that that s going to be announced next thursday. we also senate democrats are very much interested in trying to block that nominee, if as in the words of senate minority leader chuck schumer, that nominee is out of the mainstream. i spoke to james langford from oklahoma a while ago at the march, he said there s no way democrats can block the nominee. there are a lot of other ways to address. this we ll look at all openings on the table. at the end of the day we will have our nominee for the supreme court. and of course the president trump has said that he is no in favor of a full nuclear option. in other words, a simple majority vote to push it through. should it come to that. sandra: doug, thank you. congressional republicans wrapping up their retreat in philadelphia this morning, before heading back to washington. and a big topic of discussion, sorting through the various plans to replace obamacare. chief congressional correspondent mike emmanuel is live in washington. what are some of the ongs throughout? a range of ideas. one expert said it would be wise to offer some proposals that would get at least some democrat support. kentucky senator rand paul, a medical doctor, has a replacement plan when focuses on tax credits and health savings accounts. it would abollish many of the central components of obamacare and would encourage allowing inexpensive insurance to give people the freedom to buy the coverage they want. there is a more moderate plan from louisiana senator dr. bill cassidy and maine senator susan collins. their plan would give states the options to keep obamacare, choose a new state alternative, or design a solution without federal assistants. it would scrap the individual and employer mandates. the president s point man on healthcare was asked this week about what s next. when i commit to, senator, working with you and every single member of congress to make sure we have the highest quality healthcare and every single american has access to affordable coverage. lawmakers are facing time pressure as con congressional leadership has set a goal of repealing and replacing obamacare and doing tax reform by august. san . sandra: how is this going to work? . the leadership aids i talk to say it s not going to be 2,000 page bill. they know some changes will come in the repeal process which requires just a simple majority in terms of support. sources say the trump administration will likely scrap thousands of pages of regulations imposed by the obama team. then there will be votes on bills which would require 60 votes in the senate and at least some democrat support. a republican senator tells us the priority is getting it right. i think the president is open to whatever we can pass that solves this problem. this is not the republican s problem. this problem was caused by the democrats. we feel an obligation to fix it and we re committed to fix it. ultimately it will likely require the president and his team to identify much what they want and then fight for it. sandra: mike emmanuel, thank you. president trump heading to the pentagon within the hour for a meeting with his new defense secretary as he targets america s enemies and openly says he disagrees with him on torture. plus, president trump welcomes britain s prime minister to the white house. but british reporters not so much. what do you say to the viewers at home who are worried about some of your views and worried about you becoming the leader of the free world? 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[whisper: rocket] ugh. heartburn. sorry ma am. no burning here. try alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. they don t taste chalky and work fast. mmmm. incredible. can i try? she doesn t have heartburn. alka-seltzer heartburn relief gummies. enjoy the relief. sandra: we are awaiting president trump to depart the white house and head to the pentagon for the first time. the president is meeting with defense secretary james mattis, and the joint chiefs of staff where he will be briefed on isis, syria, and other national security concerns. national security correspondent jennifer griffin joins us live from the pentagon. what do we expect from president trump s visit today? well, we ve just learned that president trump will sign an executive order decreasing the size of the national security council, which critics said had grown into a large expansive seditionmaking body in a micromanaged war planning and operations. we expect president trump on arrive for his meeting with the joint chiefs at 3:15 p.m. he will oversee a ceremonial swearing-in ceremony for his defense secretary, jim mattis. we re told he will three sign three executive orders, including one ordering a program for extreme vetting of those seeking visas to come into the u.s. especially from countries that pose a threat to the u.s. he will sign an executive order dealing with military readiness, calling for the modernization of the u.s. military and the nuclear force. this will include creating a larger military. we have to take care of our military. our military is more important to me than a balanced budget. we ll get there with the balanced budget. we have a military that s really depleted. i want a strong miltie. to me that s much more important than anything. . president trump has said he wants to increase the harley by 28,000 troops by september, the air force by 30,000 airmen, marines by 10,000 troops, he wants more warships and plans to increase the size of the navy from 273 battle ships to 350. sandra, all of this will mean a bigger defense budget. sandra: what do we know about president trump s plans to accelerate the fight against isis? we know the president has given the pentagon 30 days to come up with a plan to defeat isis. some of his chiefs have already said there is no military solution to isis. trump will meet with the joint chiefs in the secure conference room at the pentagon known as the tank where he will issue a directive to the army, navy, air force and marines to accelerate efforts to defeat isis. none of the options have been signed off by the white house as of yet. but we have indication of what the pentagon will be suggesting. the plans include spend sending more special operations to syria, there are 500 troops on the ground there. deploying artillery, possibly. and apache helicopter gun ships, rocket launchers, staging them we re told on ships perhaps in the mediterranean. sandra: jennifer griffin live from the pentagon where the president will be very shortly. before heading to the pentagon, president trump held his first white house meeting with a foreign head of state, the u.c. prime minister theresa may, followed by a joint news? evens where mr. trump was asked about america s relationship with mexico. president trump: well, i think the prime minister has things she s more worried about than mexico and the united states relationship. but i will say that we had a very good call. i m not as brash as you might think. and can i tell you that, i think we re going to get along very well. sandra: marjorie is former assistant to the obama campaign and consulting. beverly hallberg the president of district media group. marjorie, you first, that was really a response that, you heard laughter from the press there. that was a response to president trump basically answering the question for theresa may, say sheeg has better things on do than worry about the relationship between the u.s. and mexico. he answered for her. then when it did come to her responding to that question, she said that s about right, we ll leave it to the u.s. and mexico. your thoughts? there was a lot more at stake for theresa may than donald trump. right now, given brexit and her need to execute on that exit from the e.u., she needs the u.s. she needs good relationships with donald trump there. s a lot of eyes on how this was going to play out. they re very, very different personality types. him being the quintessential salesman and she being more reserved and sort of a process in gray. how that was going to work out. he knew that she niedz him. that s a good position to be in. he had a lot to make up for, given the president of mexico cancelling his trip. he needed this to go well. sandra: beverly, how did you see this news conference, it was short and sweet, the answers were very to the point. some weren t even answered. your thoughts? well, i think as president so far he s kind of done the opposite what we saw on the campaign trail, which is he would speak for a long time at his rallies. when you take a look at his inaugural speech, which was very brief, then you come to this short press conference, i wonder if he s going to be a little more short and sweet. another aspect that was really interesting about this, is not only is this his first press conference, but you have two leaders that we would have never expected to be on the stage about a year ago. that is because of the working class in both countries rising up. i think the element of brexit, which they did in end the press conference on, is something you can unite on both sides of the pond. sandra: theresa may addressed the very thing that they both have in common. she said, we want to put interests of order working people first. well, it s a great talking point. it was funny, the gift she brought donald trump was a drinking cup from scotland. he celebrates his scottish heritage. he actually is a tee-totler. i wondered how that would go. finding any common ground is key. sandra: seemed like a good meeting, she said she was hon honored to meet with him and he said they had significant conversation. i want to talk about vice president pence. he spoke about trump s support at the march for life today. listen to this. that is evident in the election of pro-life majorities, in the congress of the united states of america. [ applause ] but it is no more evident in any way than in the historic election of a president who stands for a stronger america, a more prosperous america, and a president who i proudly say stands for the right to life, president donald trump. [ applause ] sandra: beverly that, headline is just about everywhere. that you look right now. what did you think of that historic moment? i was out there earlier, and i think where the energy the crowd came from, the highest elected owe firm that s ever attended the march for life. i think there was added energy, this is coming less than a week after the women s march. the thing i think is interesting, you did see these individuals coming up on one issue. especially after you had a women s march that said pro-life organizations were not allowed. this was more energetic than normal, not only balls the v.p. was there but also because women are standing up and saying, i care about the issue of life whether or not the media want to report on it or not. sandra: marjorie? the media is reporting on it. and i think what is interesting and is important about this pro-life march, as a catholic can i speak to this, pro-life is not just abortion. there it isn t a single issue, it s death penalty, how we treat refugee women and children, it s schools. when you think about life, and this administration talks about being pro-life they need to be thoughtful about how that encompasses all of the issues that are pro-life and making adoption accessible, supporting women when they re pregnant. before we have that conversation we can t move on to issues of abortion. sandra: it has been a big day and there is still a lot going on. the president is about to arrive at the pentagon. thanks to both of you ladies for being here. thank you. sandra: tens of thousands are taking to the streets for the annual march for life rally, president trump is closing in on his choice to fim the vacancy on the supreme court. with major implications for the roe vs. wade decision. mr. trump charting a new course after pulling out of the trance pacific trade deal, why america s farmers are anxiously watching the president s every move. 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yeah, that s right, as you know this trade issue is so intertwined and such a state of flux. mexico central to the nafta deal, was also one of the 12 countries involved in the tpp. with that trade deal now dead, exporters throughout the u.s. are worried about future growth. washington state run as big trade surplus with major companies like boeing, microsoft. farmers are also important players. one-third of the state s apples are exported, 60% of all potatoes shipped abroad. the big concern is china which is the biggest producer of potatoes and always focused on more exports. if we lose market share we lose the ability to produce our product. if we lose that capacity, then we ll see a reduction in our acres. which impacts rural washington state dramatically. in 2013, washington state had exports total in value of $82 billion. that was one-eighth of the u.s. total that year. sandra? sandra: and farmers are hopeful trump can get the job done? yeah, it s interesting, they were both hopeful and also worried. most of those people we talked to are trump supporters. they believe he can work very quickly in replacing the tpp. but the big question is, would these bilateral trade dpreements that follow address the concerns of many who oppose t.p.p. all of those touched by trade will be watching closely. we continue to believe that we can find the best pieces of that agreement and maybe they ll carry forward into a new vehicle down the road. and trade experts say that the value of the u.s. dollar is also critical. that s something president trump is also addressing, saying it might be overvalued right now. sandra: dan, good to see you live from seattle. as we follow the march for life rally in our nation s capital, there s also activity at the supreme court. as we look ahead, to president trump s imminent nomination for the vacancy created by the death of justice an to nin scalia. karl cameron is live outside the high court in washington. hey, karl, a lot of anticipation over the scotus nomination. what can you tell us. the president says he s already made up his mind. we can tell you that the festivities on the mall ended about a an hour ago, the marchs are moring on the supreme court. they ve been arriving for the last 45ments or so. the supreme court block is literally ringed with demonstrators. the street in front of the capitol, between the supreme court, is absolutely jammed with demonstrators. 99.99% of the folks here today are pro-life. here at the court, there are pro-choice demonstrateors but they re outnumbered by huge amounts. the parade has been going, as i say, likely to go for another couple of hours. organizers say this is the biggest crowd they have had for the march for life. and clearly, they re very enthusiastic about what donald trump is likely to pick. they know that the president said he s almost made up his mind. mr. trump has not left the possibility of changing his mind at the last minute but told shawn hannity that in his mind he s made up that mind, we re going to have to wait until thursday. sandra: made up his mind and expected to make that announcement thursdays you mention, karl, for his pick for the supreme court. what can you tell us, what more do you know about that? well, the president has said that he started with a list of 21 potential supreme court picks. it was a list that he had help from the heritage foundation and the federal society picking. all 21 of them are pro-life. the president has said those he does not pick for the supreme court will be used to pick for appellate and district courts around the country. this is the vacant seat left by the demise of antonin scalia, one of the more conservative jr.ists to sit on the high court. republicans believe they can and should be able to replace and fill that seat with very, very conservative a very, very conservative nominee. mr. trump has said he s narrowed it down. aids say it s probably down to three and perhaps as few as two. neil gorsuch from denver is an originalist, a constitutionalist, very much in the mold of scalia. tom hardiman has a sister on the court in pittsburgh, he s high on the list. and then william pryor, who was considered to be a frontrunner but seems to have fallen into disfavor for a trans hive gender decision. sandra: we will be back. ir e. i just snapped a photo and got an estimate in 24 hours. decision. sandra: we will be back. definitely doesn t have that. you can leave worry behind when liberty stands with you™ liberty mutual insurance [phone buzzing] some things are simply impossible to ignore. the strikingly designed lexus nx turbo and hybrid. the suv that dares to go beyond utility. this is the pursuit of perfection. 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spoke with sergey kislyak last july. it was during these conversations, i m told by j.d. gordon, they talked about improving relations between the u.s. and russia. it was dur thag time, erin, that j.d. gordon says he went to the convention, advocating on behalf of the campaign for language in the gop platform that advocated against the arming of the ukrainians in their fights against the prorussian rebels. that is something the trump campaign denied they were doing at the time. it denied it was advocating for that language in the gop platform. flash forward to december and according to a senior administration official, the president s son-in-law, jared kushner and the former security adviser, michael flynn, wret with the ambassador during a previously undisclosed meeting. james comey was making the rounds with house members. democrats were not happy when the top democrat, adam schiff, who believes comey was not forthcoming on key details in the investigation into russia and the contacts between russian officials that happened with the trump campaign associates and because of comy s refusal, calling for a special prosecutor to look into this. i asked do you agree with schiff and he shook his head and said no. thank you very much. congressman, good to have you with me. i want to start with the breaking news at this moment. a former trump campaign adviser saying he met with the russian ambassador during the gop investigation along with carter paige. we now know in december, that russian ambassador came to new york, went to trump tower, met with michael flynn and jared kushner. of course we know about jeff sessions having two meetings, one outside the convention in cleveland. how big of a deal is this? it s a big deal. i think as the day has moved on, erin, it is clear the recusal is not enough thchlt is the top law enforcement officer of the nation. this is the largest law enforcement bureau in the country, over 100,000 strong. the integrity of the law enforcement in the judicial system is really at stake here. look, everybody has heard, do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? and he didn t. he withheld information. today, i had various meetings and as you and i know, most members of congress, whether in the house or senate, when we meet with somebody, there s staff people there. we learned mr. sessions, senator sessions was not alone, two staff people were there. that s what he said. there is a statute, it s very, very clear, mr. sessions, for the good of the country, for the, for our judicial system, for our law enforcement officers should simply resign, allow the deputy attorney general to pick and choose somebody with consent of the majority and minority party of the senate and elect a special prosecutor. we remember ken star. clinton didn t tell the truth, he lied, too. in the end, we got to the truth. we need to get to the truth today. look, our elections are at stake and the integrity of our elections are at stake. congressman, when we get to what really happened in the room, as you point out, he said there were a couple meetings one with more people, one with two staffers. the staffers could be significant. the attorney general came out and said they did not talk about the election. he says that s completely and utterly false. here is what he said he did talk about with the russian ambassador, here he is. we talked about terrorism, as i recall. the subject of ukraine came up. i had the ukrainian ambassador in my office the day before to listen to him. nothing russia has done nut thag is wrong in any area and everybody else was wrong with regards to ukraine. it got to be a testy conversation at that point. he said something about inviting me to have lunch. i did not accept. he says he didn t say all of this during the hearings under oath is because the election didn t come up. that s what he thought he was being asked about. did you talk about the election to russian officials. he said no. do you believe he s lying? i don t believe the attorney general of the united states. i think most of the american public is going to find it just not credible that the attorney general look, he the fbi reports to the attorney general. the attorney general reports to the white house. what do we know thus far? we know the white house is talking to the deputy attorney general asking him to kind of counter stories in what they call the fake media. we can t really count on the legislative branch of government because both the chairmen of the intelligence committee in the senate and the house were asked by the white house and they followed suit by countering arguments against the media. look, what we need is a special prosecutor, independent prosecutor. i think mr. sessions needs to resign immediately because otherwise here is what happens, erin. he stays in his position and his deputy is supposed to now investigate him and investigate the son-in-law of the president of the united states. it just can t happen. let s have an independent prosecutor. when you say i don t believe the attorney general of the united states, you believe he s not telling the truth. i have to ask you about this, though. it s important to understand whether this is partisan. claire mccaskill is on the committee. no meeting with the russian ambassador ever, period. that s not true. we were able to determine that was false based on her twitter feed herself. she tweeted she met with the russian ambassador. how is that different than sessions who said he didn t bring it up because it was about ukraine. a very big difference. he said it after he said he would tell the truth, the whole truth the whole truth, aaron, nothing but the truth. each of these, one is a lie, the other is a lie. why did he wait? 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(crowd cheers) breaking news, jeff sessions saying he did nothing wrong meeting with the russian ambassador twice. we are learning from a senior administration official that multiple members of trump s inner circle met with that same ambassador including the national security adviser at the time and son-in-law, jared kushner. who is the russian ambassador? they believe he is one of putin s top spies and spy recruiters. matthew chance is out front in moscow. what do we know about ambassador kislyak? reporter: well, we know he s a career diplomat, first of all. he s been the russian ambassador since 2008, which is a long time when they don t normally last that long. he served two previous stints as a diplomat in the united states as well in the 1980s, during the soviet union days. he was serving here at the united nations. before becoming the u.s. ambassador, he was the russian deputy foreign minister. he had a number of important jobs in the russian ministry. he was the ambassador to nato and the kingdom of belgium at one point as well. he is well known in diplomatic circles and central to the efforts over the past couple decades. he s very respected in russia and respected among other diplomats as well. he s a central figure in this controversy in u.s. politics, all these individuals, michael flynn, the resigned national security adviser, jeff sessions, jared kushner, the son-in-law of donald trump have been in contact with him. cnn reporting from u.s. government officials, they believe he is a top spy and a top spy recruiter for vladimir putin. that s a significant thing to say. you asked russian foreign ministry spokesperson about this and she was aggressive in her reply. mr. kislyak is a well known, world class diplomat who was a minister of foreign affairs in russia who communicated with americans for decades on different fields. cnn accused him of being a russian spy, recruiting u.s. officials accused him of that. stop spreading false news. that was perhaps an uncharacteristic anger there. reporter: yeah, yeah. lies and false news. we are hearing a lot from kremlin officials as well. they want to get rid of this. they are worried this escalating crisis in the united states is going to have an impact on future relations between the united states and russia. thank you, matthew chance. out front now, former cia operative bob bear and david axelrod. david, the bottom line, u.s. intelligence believes he is one of putin s top spies and recruiters. he met with people in trump s inner circle, multiple meetings over months and months through december. is this troubling? well, look, even if you don t connect the two facts whatever role kislyak plays in terms of es plea onnage, we know there s an ongoing investigation about russian hacking into the election and potential links between the trump campaign and russia. in that environment, it s very, very curious and it raises suspicion when central figures in the trump world are secretive and unrevealing about their conversations with kislyak. we have seen it with flynn, apparently with jared kushner, who both of whom met with him in december. you would think with all that was swirling around general flynn tharks fact would have been divulged before now. of course, general sessions sitting before the senate got a chance to answer this question. he s well aware of the senate procedures. anytime after that, he could have corrected it and he, today, had a fairly specific recollection of that conversation but very specific. couldn t come up with the fact within two weeks, two, three, four weeks after his testimony, he never corrected it. all of this just adds to an atmosphere of suspicion. i don t think it serves the administration well to have these stories keep cropping up. he went on about how they talked about religion. we played the part about ukraine and terror, but personal things. he remembered all of it. bob, we are talking about what u.s. intelligence officials tell as a top russian spy and recruiter. what do you think of the meetings between ambassador kislyak and now turns out jared kushner and michael flynn, jer sessions and multiple other members of the national security team involved in meetings with this ambassador. frankly, if i had been in the cia and met with russian officials and not reported it in writing, i would be fired. this is just really, truly crossed the line. i don t care that he s ambassador. all the ambassadors are co-opted by the kgb. they operate and recruit. the great ames, the mole inside the cia was run by a ministry of foreign affairs official in washington, d.c. we shouldn t be confused about that. what we should be confused about is why the contacts were not reported in writing with potential foreign intelligence services like the kgb. they are not our friends. this is just getting out of control very quick. we do need a special prosecutor, the senate intelligence committee or the house cannot handle this, it is too hot. i agree, sessions deputy shouldn t be handling there, either. david, when jeff sessions took a few questions today, to his credit, from the press, he knew they were going to be hostile. one question is, what do you think, at the time, and what did you think the motives were for wanting this meeting? he said i didn t think about it. do you think that s possible, he didn t think about it? he was a top surrogate for the trump campaign and he didn t think about why the russian ambassador wanted a meeting? well, let me say, the united states senators are not solo practitioners walking around with the cell phone making decisions on their own. they have staffs. they have experts who are there to advise them on these things. i m sure that kislyak can t just i shouldn t say i m sure, i m not sure of anything anymore. i m sure he didn t call and say jeff, i would like to come chat with you and sessions didn t mention it to anybody. if that were the case, it would be more disturbing. the bottom line, you have this story that is unresolved about what was, if there was a level of collusion between the russians and the trump campaign, sessions was deeply involved in that campaign. now, he is, as has been mentioned today, he s suspicion in the investigation. so, there really needs to be some independent authority that can oversee this investigation, not the attorney generals department. you are both in agreement on that. bob, before we go, top spy and top recruiter, do you believe that? that is what intelligence officials are telling us tonight. i have to see the 201 file, but that s what i m hearing, he is an operative for the kremlin. the fact that he s ambassador doesn t matter. this needs to all come out in an investigation. this is very disturbing the whole connection with russia for the next intelligence officer. thank you very much. president trump saying he has total confidence in jeff sessions standing by what was his earliest and most loyal supporter. undocumented immigrant detained and almost deported to mexico. he does not blame donald trump. working for the american people. he is not working for me. to those who know that the essence of integrity is a promise kept. if you ve got the time welcome to the high life. we ve got the beer miller beer when you re close to the people you love, does psoriasis ever get in the way of a touching moment? if you have moderate to severe psoriasis, you can embrace the chance of completely clear skin with taltz. taltz is proven to give you a chance at completely clear skin. with taltz, up to 90% of patients had a significant improvement of their psoriasis plaques. in fact, 4 out of 10 even achieved completely clear skin. do not use if you are allergic to taltz. before starting you should be checked for tuberculosis. taltz may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. tell your doctor if you are being treated for an infection or have symptoms. or if you have received a vaccine or plan to. inflammatory bowel disease can happen with taltz. including worsening of symptoms. serious allergic reactions can occur. now s your chance at completely clear skin. just ask your doctor about taltz. now s your chance at completely clear skin. the markets change. at t. rowe price. our disciplined approach remains. global markets may be uncertain. but you can feel confident in our investment experience around the world. call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. on your phone and online.s a modern way to pay. so you don t miss his first birthday. tickets, i need to see your tickets sir. i masterpassed it. feeling like father of the year: priceless masterpass, the secure way to pay from your bank don t just buy it. masterpass it. about his contacts with the russian ambassador. trump said he didn t believe he should recuse himself. sarah murray is out front. reporter: a defiant trump is standing by his closest ally, insisting attorney general jeff sessions has his full support. do you have confidence in him? total. should he have spoke truthfully? he probably did. reporter: the president saying he believes the attorney general testified truthfully even though sessions failed to disclose two meetings with the russian ambassador, meetings the white house learned about through media reports according to a senior administration official. when were you aware he spoke to the russian ambassador? i wasn t at all. reporter: he should recuse himself for ties, sessions did just that. i should not be involved in investigationing a campaign i have a role in. reporter: the well of affection runs deep. sessions was the first senator to endorse the long-shot presidential candidate in february, 2016. i am pleased to endorse donald trump for the presidency of the united states. reporter: at a time when many in the gop eye trump, sessions became one of trump s biggest boosters on the campaign trail. there s one man with a strength, a courage, determination, the guts, the challenge, the thing that is are going wrong in this country and put us on the right track. that s donald j. trump. reporter: a close adviser, even flying to indiana to huddle with trump as he wrestled with who to choose as his running mate. trump repaying that loyalty soon after he won the election naming sessions to serve as attorney general. jeff understands the job of attorney general is to serve and protect the people of the united states and that is exactly what he will do and do better than anybody else can. reporter: now, three weeks after leaving the senate and being sworn in as attorney general, one of trump s top officials is already facing calls to resign. in retrospect, i should have slowed down and said i did meet one russian official a couple times. that would be the ambassador. reporter: now, the sessions matter may be settled in the eyes of the president, but this evening, we learned about even more contacts that happened during the presidential campaign around the convention, then again in december with members of donald trump s campaign and the russian ambassador. erin, it s an indication the russia story isn t going away anytime soon and continues to cast the shadow over the white house. that s for sure, especially with the breaking news tonight. more contacts between the russian ambassador and the inner circle. we have two guests. let me start with both of you. this is what it comes down to with attorney general sessions. when asked what he would do if evidence exists that anyone affiliated with the trump campaign spoke with the russians. here is how it went down. senator franken, i m not aware of any of those activities. i have been called a surrogate a time or two in that campaign. i did not have communications with the russians. i m unable to comment on it. okay. now, here is the attorney general today. let me be clear, i never had meetings with russian operatives or russian intermediaries about the trump campaign. my reply to the question of senator franken was honest and correct as i understood it at the time. paul, do you buy his explanation today or did he lie to senator franken? i m stunned by it because he said today that the reason he made the mistake is because he was asked about a continuing exchange with the russians but franken didn t ask him about that. in fact, his words were, i did not have communications with the russians. it almost sounds like that statement that was made by president clinton, i didn t have sexual relations with that woman. sessions called for his impeachment. bill clinton s, right. it s astonishing in this press conference he mischaracterizes his own statement. perjury? i think it s close to the line, but not over the line. i think it s misconduct and unethical, but a hard perjury prosecutor. misconduct, unethical, not true. what do you say, brad? i think his excuse and his reasoning for the answer he gave was very credible. what we saw in that al franken exchange is he mentioned if you look at the whole exchange and not the snippet, he mentioned continuing conversations between russian operatives and people from the trump campaign. if you see the whole exchange in totality, he s talking about hacking, talking different things about individuals speaking with the trump campaign. i can see where that answer makes sense. he s, you know, as his job, in the committee of the armed services committee, in his role, he has contact with ambassadors. this is something he didn t think of. you know, brad, brad, if i could just ask you this. in his job as attorney general, he prosecutors perjury cases. he fills out this is not perjury. he fills out his application for the attorney general job and he lies in the application. doesn t that strike you as being misconduct at the beginning? paul, no, no. you were on the celebrity apprentice, correct? i was on the regular apprentice. i appreciate you calling me a celebrity. donald trump fired you toward the end of the show. don t you think he would have fired you sooner if you lied on your application for the show? listen, the fact is, he did not lie. this is not a lie. if al franken followed up with a question, sir, did you have, did you personally have contact with russian operatives, ambassador in your role he said did you have i mean, the thing is, if you were honest, wouldn t you say i did, but my role as armed services. today, he remembered it all. by omitting it and acting like it didn t happen at all, it raises questions. wouldn t you acknowledge that? i don t think so. i really don t. if you look at the totality of it, look in its whole, not just a snippet about the exchange between franken and sessions, you could see where this answer makes a lot of sense. he is talking about surrogate that is had contact, continuing contact with russian officials and operatives. he would not think of this. he says i did not have communications with the russians. is there something you don t understand about that? if you see his whole statement. i was called a surrogate, once. meaning, in his role as a surrogate for trump. that is my understanding of it. you are a trial lawyer, right? you cross examine people. would you youz that i cross examine everybody. would you use that statement in a court of law to impeach a witness on the witness stand? would i use it would you use it against sessions if he was on the witness stand in a case you were trying? that s the point. franken should have followed up. i would have used it for a follow up question. my follow up question would have been, are you saying you did not have any contact with the russians either in your official role or anything else? that would have been the question. al franken says, sir, i m not an attorney. it s very apparent he s not an attorney because his questions were horrible. the question wasn t exact. the question was answered. i think that at the time he answered that question, he answered in the best way he could. because he wasn t paying attention to the question. all right. we are going to leave it there. obviously a lot for everyone to think about. next, an undocumented immigrant deported to mexico. wait until you hear what he had to say about trump s immigration policy. it isn t what you think you are going to hear. american farmers who back trump on election day worry the policies could hurt their business with special report. and now, i help people find discounts, like paperless, multi-car, and safe driver, that help them save on their car insurance. any questions? 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yes. if that goes away, it will have impact on profitability. reporter: iowa imports $13 billion in goods, an enormous piece of the bottom line. horrible and unfair trade deals. reporter: he is a lifelong republican, but trump s tough talk on trade sends a shiver. what s the level of uncertainty here right now? i would say it s higher if we want to rate it, higher than 50%. reporter: from his office/command center, he monitors everything from commodity to thousands of cattle and hogs. immigrants integral to keeping his 500-acre farm running. there s two or three of them here every morning to make sure the cattle get fed. that s their job. reporter: the need for labor here so great, immigrants, their work ethic and emphasis on family welcomed with open arms. my first time was 2003. you could see no mexicans. ten years after that, you see 35% of the school population is latinos in the elementary schools. we are getting really bad dudes out of this country. reporter: carlos, now a u.s. citizen has a masters degree and married into a farm family. trump s immigration stance sends fear through the immigrant community. they are afraid they are going to take aatheir parents. reporter: trade at immigrant labor corner stones where 80% voted for donald trump. he has a simple message for the businessmen. 90-some per cent of the world population lies outside the waters of the united states. trade is a huge deal for agriculture. reporter: republicans here in sioux county say there are a lot of reasons they voted for trump, by immigration and trade are very important to them. since his address to congress on tuesday night, they feel he is becoming more traditional in terms of republicanism and he won t follow through on the tough trade talks and chasing him grants or arresting immigrants quite as hard as he said. erin? 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protection from the law. a good country, right? we will be watching him monday. have a good weekend, everybody. bill o reilly of next life. see you monday bill o reilly up next life. see you monday. bill: the o reilly factor is on tonight. we can confirm now that the u.s. has lost tomahawk missiles at syria. the action by president trump has caused worldwide reaction. did the usa did the right thing by attacking the brutal dictator assad? we will have multiple tonight. it doesn t make sense for assad to make these decisions. bill: there is some on the friends you will not support american military action the matter what. we will take a look at that situation. the nomination of neil m. neil m. gorsuch to be an associate justice of the supreme court of the united states is confirmed. also ahead, the usa has a brand-new supreme court justice. is that a good thing for you? caution. you are about to enter into the no spin zone. that the factor begins now. hi max, i m bill o reilly. thank you for watching the sniper the usa attack syria, that is around nine eastern time, 50 missiles were launched from american warships in the eastern mediterranean sea. 59 missiles hit their targets. the goal is to destroy an air base from which syrian planes recently dropped sarin gas on civilians, killing 30 children. 30. and 20 women, according to the syrian observatory for human rights. according to reporting based on a variety of cities, this is the fifth time, at least, the fifth time, syrian dictator assad has violated the geneva conventions and use poison gas to go civilians get back in 2012, president obama threatened assad. the use of chemical weapons is and would be totally on acceptable. and if you make a tragic mistake of using these weapons, they will be consequences and you will be held accountable. bill: but assad is not held accountable. but instead, , the obama administration did what it always did, talk, and announced a deal with the dictator. a fascinating footnote to that is susan rice was on point alongside john kerry. we were able to find a solution that actually removed the chemical weapons that were known in syria in the way that use of wars would never accomplish. with respect to syria, we struck a deal where he got 100% the new president on the ascending a message to the worl world, the united states will not tolerate war crimes from syria. the action is a reaction, so security has tightened here in the usa as we become a bigger target for evildoers. summing up, america was justified in destroying the syrian air force. the lone superpower has a responsibility. even most of the trump haters in congress agree that if we can stop children from being gassed to death, we should do so. and that is the memo. the top story reaction at this hour, joining us from palm beach florida where he s covering president trump s meeting with the chinese leader, john roberts. understanding that president in china has departed from mar-a-lago. what s going on there now? he left this afternoon, just having a typical friday night. he s having the rest of the week and here. the president, bill, i m told is feeling pretty good about what happened last night. he thinks that the military did a terrific job while one cruise missile fell into the sea, 59 of the 59 remaining hit their marks and he is facing praising the military to his staff and his friends that they performed marvelously here. and he s happy to see you in the most part with the international reaction is, he does know there are a couple of numbers in congress saying he should ve come today, but he feels like he s an absolute firm ground here because as he pointed out last night this was a matter of urgent national security for the united states because i m told the president believes that if bashar al-assad was able to do this and not suffer some consequent support this, that would normalize, at least in the area of the world, the use of chemical weapons and therefore might come back to bite the united states at one point if somebody decided, well, if bashar al-assad can use weber chemical weapons, will use the weapons. bill: i.d. rapid fired answers. the chinese foreign minister said they shouldn t have done it. everyone should come down. was there anything coming outside of the president talking with mr. trump today on the missile attacks? anything at all? any utterance? spent well, there wasn t any public utterance, but i m told, bill, that the white house believes it was pretty impressive show of force that the president went out last night to his chinese counterpar counterpart. and that will be taken back to beijing and sort of turned into that whole pot with north korea where it might give them something else about leaving mara longo and president trump s request to lean on north korea. if they do it in syria, but they do it in north korea? bill: did we get anything in north korea, any pr better cooperation in china? did they say anything? bill: they didn t say anything there was an agreement to deal with. it was discussed. bill: but we don t have any joint statements? no concrete joint statement on that. no. but the secretary of state rex tillerson he s very disappointed with the russian response to all of this. according to rex tillerson, he said that this means russia is still in the camp of bashar al-assad. he says he s disappointing, but he s not surprised to hear what he s heard out of russia. he look, this is how we ll deal with these guys in syria. if you want to deal with bashar al-assad, it s going to put you on the wrong side of history. bill: john, we appreciate it very much. let s bring in catherine harris joining us for washington. doesn t seem to be any chinese reaction in the sense that sometimes after a meeting, a day and a half meeting, there is a joint statement that we didn t get any joint statements. putin postures behind the scenes. is there any serious, serious reaction tonight? i wouldn t say serious reaction, but i would say the leading edge of this investigation right now is into whether russia had some kind of role, bill, in this chemical attack earlier this week, and whether a second strike on that town in syria was really an effort to destroy evidence and be part of a larger cover-up of that crime. and that is really where military intelligence is focused tonight. bill: they had a drone, i understand! correct. bill: russian drone over the area where the chemicals dropped and killed children. and a russian bomber bombed the hospital where civilians were taken. is that what we are talking about tonight? that s right. there was a drone immediately over the site where the sarin gas was released. and then about 4-5 hours later when the victims have been taken to the hospital, another drone showed up. shortly after that, there was a military strike on that hospital. the people i m talking to tonight say that fits a patent that they have seen before with the syrians especially and possibly this case the russians that they wanted to destroy evidence at that hospital compound. bill: we can i.d. drones anyway, so they were russian drones in that area. is that correct? that is correct. bill: okay, now. the ron pauls of the world say, oh, no. how solid is the evidence that assad killed these 20 kids with sarin gas? i was told by my contacts that we have very high confidence and there were multiple streams of information from overhead imagery to radar, from information gathered by our partners in the region. and today they release a graphic that showed radar information. and you can see the syrian government chats over the site of the attak twice within a nine minute time slot which is exactly when the sarin gas was released. there is really no doubt. bill: okay. there was always doubt among those who will not believe, no matter what you present, through them. i iran has been strangely signed about this. i haven t heard any saber rattling. have you? that s a little bit more worrying. what you don t know. bill: right. one of the possible plans for retaliation that they considered when they were planning this whole thing out is that syria and iran would use their proxy hezbollah to launch an attack, that third party retaliation. we have not seen that yet, but that is an idea that was on the table, bella. bill: do we have any information on the swedish attacks, again, president trump made that a centerpiece that sweden was destabilized by all of these muslim refugees pouring into the country. the country reacted vehemently against president trump, but we now have it will take a terror attack in stockholm, right? that s right. a truck was hijacked and then it was driven right into this department store in central stockholm. really, at the height of rush hour, people were getting ready for the weekend. this sadly fits a profile that we ve seen mostly with isis or self radicalized al qaeda followers. and they are using trucks and cars bill: to kill people speak . today, they took one cost suspect into custody, but we have not been able to verify his claims is accurate. but these are the types of plots as you know, bill, that are almost impossible to disrupt. and they go right to the heart of the economy and also people s sense of morality what is right. i mean, it s so offensive. bill: we appreciated as always, thank you. next on the run down from a senior u.s. military officials effective? it was effective in two ways. number one, punishing bashar al-assad for the use of chemical weapons and reestablishing u.s. military credibility in the region. a lot of people talk about political solutions, they talk about the poetic solutions. there is never been at the poetic solution or political solution in the absence of military credibility. we can t predict where president trump is going from here, but in the narrow entrance for punishing bashar al-assad for using chemical weapons, and setting an effective deterrence for future use of chemical weapons, this attack was a success. bill: you heard of the talking points memo that the obama administration trotted out susan rice and john kerry a few years back to say, no, we negotiated with assad and he gave up all of his chemical weapons. of course, that turned out to be false. do you see this as mr. harmer does as an effective use of military power that will inhibit future chemical attacks? um, i think it was a very effective attack. i think it was smart to uses with cruise missiles. there are still russians at the base to attest the accuracies of the weapon systems. i do not think it will guarantee it won t be used again. i think there is a very limited message being sent to assad, a very powerful message, overwhelming force. it was as our friend already said, a narrow message well delivered. but no. i don t see this guaranteeing. i think assad will trot this out again. and if we got the russians involved bill: why would he do that though? if you trotted out again, that doesn t make any sense to me. he knows that trump is going to up it, because trump is not going to say, okay, i m not going to do anything after you spit in my eye after i give you a warning. the next time instead of it being 50, it will be 150. it will devastate the whole infrastructure of syria. don t you believe that? don t you think donald trump is going to back away from a punk like assad if he uses gas again? i didn t say anything about the president of united states backing up. you asked me if it s going to stop it bill: why would he risk his own neck? okay. we are dealing with a crazy man in the middle of a war with a thousand different factions, and he still has, i believe, he destroyed 1300 tons of that stuff back in 2012-2013 and he still got it. i think you could use it again in a few months. in small doses. i wouldn t be surprised at all if he uses it again. bill: mr. harmer, would you be surprised if this guy because it again knowing that the next time, going going to be ten times worse? i would be surprised if basher assad uses chemical weapons again for two reasons. number one, he cannot afford direct conflict with the united states. he can survive with al qaeda and isis. what he cannot do is cross a redline that has been firmly established and a penalty is being affixed to that. second of that, bashar al-assad s military is on the narrow margins of survivability. the air force and all practical purposes barely exist anymore. the syrian air army no longer desists. that is why they need conscripts and mercenaries from afghanistan, he the syrian people will not fight on the behalf of bashar al-assad. he does not have the bandwidth to risk conflict. bill: doesn t he have the iranians he didn t have it before, guys! bill: let s not allocate our coverage. doesn t he have the iranians helping him out, though? absolutely. he s got the full support of the iranian government, the islamic revolutionary guard, the full support of hezbollah and russia. with that said, bashar al-assad has a very narrow definition of success right now and that staying alive. there is no fallback option. those under to bill: you mentioned this last night. it russia. is russia stupid enough to get involved with poison gas? bad drones, as you talk about with catherine. i don t think i don t think, i know. assad is not doing anything without russian approval and russian involvement. this country was gone and lost until the russians showed up. assad is absolutely dependent on bill: if you were putin and you knew the world is horrified at poison gas killing 20 children. why would you i mean, why? i m not sure, bill. look. why would a former kgb lieutenant colonel say okay to use sarin gas? bill: this kind of attention to syria because i think this hurts assad. his survivability rate just went down. of course it does. the russians the russian involvement in this, they haven t stopped. again, i say this. they have been in syria, assad killing his own people. which got everyone obviously upset about this is the 20 kids, babies, that were killed. bill: yeah, the gas. i get it. but he s been doing this for 5-6 years. i don t see any reason that they gave him gas. putin would say, don t do that. bill: do you think putin would okay a gas attack, mr. harmer? i think it s a dispute that the russians weren t aware that syria was resuming its chemical weapons capacity. i don t think the russians suggested this for there s a big difference between assad being dependent on russian help, which he is, and assad functioning as a mercenary for the russians, which is a stretch. bill: the warships that putin is moving into the mediterranean sea, is that just for show? yes, that s part of the counteraction package. they send their ships in close proximity edge, it s is an easy way to show that they are viable, they can still stand up to us without risking escalation. it happens in the pacific, atlantic, mediterranean, it s not a big deal. it s just a show of force. bill: do you agree with that? yeah. this ship has been coming in the mediterranean a lot. bill: check out colonel hunt s new book without mercy about nukes in the hands of terrorists. directly ahead, security tightened all over the world after the attack and another alleged terrorist incident in sweden, as we mention. now judge neil gorsuch shea supreme court s to justice. what does that mean for you? those reports after these messages. white house security council under presidents bush and obama. do you see any unintended consequences from this attack in syria? um, there s always a possibility for unintended consequences. i feel like the demonstration would not do this if they had not gamed out the potential side effects here. there s always a risk wherever the united states undertake military action abroad, whether or not we have come under direct attack or not, there will be risks here. this is not offensive action, as you know. that the united states was very have taken. the russians shows a side in the syrian conflict a few years ago when they decided to insert themselves under it under the false pretense of fighting isis. this is a smart move and a brave, bold move on the part of the u.s. but really defensive. bill: you were in the obama white house, i will play two sound bites with kerry and susan rice. we didn t negotiate it, we didn t need to go to war, that was the mantra of president obama eight years, we can negotiate anything. and we saw, he probably destroyed some stuff, but he did destroy all stops, and that is when babies are dead. when you are in the obama white house, did you notice there was a reluctance to do what donald trump did? well. i don t think you had to be at the white house to notice the reluctance to do it. bill: you are on the outside looking out. did you notice that when you were there that reluctance? i will go with yes. i think it would be hard to not see, you know the decisions that the folks made in the administration in 2013 when i was already gone from the white house, i did not see firsthand. but the results of the conversations they had were seen all around the world. and the effects are felt up until today. so it s obvious there was rekay. colonel wood, when you saw the missiles hit the airfield in syria, did anything pop in your mind like a ron is doing this and put in is going to do that? that s what we mean by unintended consequences. i think there will be unintended horizontal consequences where putin will not see whole opportunity to up the game in syria, especially if he doesn t want to go to war in the united states. but he can do that in other theaters, ukraine continues, dismembering that country. much more provocative action against the baltic states. very concerned about what they are doing in the baltics and the are tics. there are a lot of other places where putin can play a strong hand to stymie u.s. efforts, dismember alliances, and certainly with a veto power on the u.n. security council, they can create all kinds of havoc. anything to do with israel or u.s. efforts to get sanctions against north korea. reactions in the south china sea and against china i think it s a pretty broad playing board and putin will move his checkers where he thinks he can get an upper hand in other areas. bill: but i can t imagine that val ida between you and cares about assad on a personal novel or any other the chinese were interesting because the foreign minister came out and he didn t really condemn the action. he just said that everyone should calm down. that s why i was looking for a joint statement of any kind by the chinese president and donald trump, but today we didn t get anything. all they did is they had snacks at mar-a-lago i guess. i don t know what else they did there. they sidestepped out of the resort. got on the plane. bill: there wasn t any we will settle on out of here. it was strange. i can t imagine how awkward, like, you know on the protocol level that must ve been for these two leaders the first time they ve ever met face-to-face? so many issues between them and meanwhile there is this huge elephant in the room, which is that the president is going back to his room at night and, you know, dropping bombs in syria. it s a little bit i don t think it was awkward for max trump at all. he saw this as a big advantage. comes in big and bold, taking military action against a bunch of vile people, dropping sarin gas on davies at all. it came from a competitive advantage in any bill: the chinese never show their hand. they never let you know what they are thinking. the chinese bureaucrats i m talking about. sure. bill: so you don t know, you know. there is a s face they put on. i was looking for something out of president xi, we don t even know if you like the food or anything. is that what you want to know, bill? how were the burgers ? it was very aggressive, no warning, he just acted. and ten hours later, the chinese government is trying to figure out with that. i m not surprised by the silence or having to recalculate their interest in north korea. keeping mom was probably the best course of action for the chinese. bill: they would do that anyway on american soil. but it was fascinating to see donald trump oh, resident xi past the pipe. by the way, in 3 minutes, 60 tomahawk s launched into syria. would you like a little bit more tv? during the dinner, that s where they all went. i thought they would wait until factor would finish. we will talk to the white house advisor, dr. sebastian gorka about the world reaction from the missile attack. now the judge gorsuch is on the court and liberal americans are not happy! stay tuned for those reports. gorsuch is is this good for the folks? professor, cut through the nuclear option and all the stuff. the regular people, the regular americans, many of them who don t even know who judge gorsuch is or what he does. is this man going to improve the country for the folks? i think he s going to improve the court. i think this country is better off when you have people who are intellectual leaders. too often we select nominees because they have never had an interesting thought in their lives. we really need people who see a horizon that can describe where the law should go. this is a conservative president that has the right to nominate a conservative bill: but how conservative is mr. gorsuch? he is conservative. he is a textualst.t she s very conservative when looking at the original content. none of those things should bar him from the court. a lot of people share those views. bill: you ve testified for judge gorsuch. i did. bill: what did he say? what did you see. i sense that gorsuch is something of a departure, welcome departure in that he has a long record. he s not a blank slate. we know what type of justice he will be. he will be a very good one for people might not like his conclusions always, but i think he s an honest intellectual and that honesty may take him across the ideological spectrum. bill: that s what i said last night. there is a chance in some of these rulings that conservatives will be angry if it is not like scalia. scalia was a i ve never seen gorsuch promote that. that s the key people conservatives, i ve said for months, you should be not trying to replace a conservative with a conservative, but an intellectual with an intellectual. that is what gorsuch is and that is what scalia was. bill: okay. do you believe that judge gorsuch will be sworn in monday morning got caught up in the trump hate campaign! honestly i don t see a basis to oppose gorsuch, so i hope he doesn t carry a lot of baggage into this. a lot of democratic senators didn t feel they could vote for him, which i think is a terrible shame. bill: why? why didn t they think they could vote for him? three did. but why do the other things they couldn t? what you are saying is true. honest man, very smart, forward-looking, respects the constitution above all. why couldn t our democratic elected senators vote for him? i think it s an incredible of the ploys of to we can no longer separate people from the politics. yet in honest good faith jurist that judge neil gorsuch is. bill: senator feinstein said she couldn t vote for gorsuch because she didn t believe the constitution was a living document that evolves as society evolves. i guess it s a living document. you have to feed it, walk it. that s why she couldn t vote for him, no matter how brilliant or honest, it had to be a justice who believes in evolution of the constitution. you your head must ve blown off. i thought that was a particularly sad moment, because i have great reservations about the cause of a living constitution because i don t know how it s been defined and i ll tell you bill: is defined by your ideology, whatever you think is the right policy. there is this broad spectrum that includes now with justice gorsuch on monday that people often separate originalists from living constitutions. there is this medal, good faith jurist that try to get it right. in the case of judge gorsuch, he starts with this original sense of the to present that move out of the main screen is the czar. bill: you see two more things really quick. second amendment is now bolstered by judge gorsuch. i think he would agree with that. second 11 religious people. they bill if there is a major case that he s going to hit the court just in time to hear the trinity lutheran church case. it has a huge case. bill: tell me what that case is quick to make this was a church that was denied funds to a repay their playground because they are a religious organization. other nonfor profits that were given their funding. the church said that is not fair. just because we are religious groups, we are still nonfor profit. this is a case that could have far-reaching implications for how they handle the religion clauses of the first amendment. bill: i think religious people should be celebrating over the weekend, it s palm sunday and everything. that was a good discussion there, professor. thank you. bill: you didn t come across as a pinhead. [laughs] bill: i even understood it. you did a great job. we appreciate it. thanks, bella. bill: when we come back, missile attack defense. some people think president trump s actions were flat-out wrong. we will go to white house advisor to find out what could come next as president trump sending messages to the world. we will be right back. dr. nick gillespie, , and emma ashford who works the cato institute. you know, a lot of people say if you are going to kill babies with poison gas, somebody s got to take care of you. and that somebody was president trump and the united states. you oppose it. why? well, i think that is frankly a false argument. i think that the attacks that president trump undertook does nothing to resolve the syrian civil war. it does nothing to prevent the further killing of syrian civilians. it makes the isis campaign more difficult, and it risks dragging us a larger conflict in syria. those are big negatives that we should be paying more attention. bill: that s why we have you on the air. so let s walk through and we will get to talk to gillespie. he uses poison gas, assad. that s against the geneva convention. the united nations is not doing anything because i never do. so donald trump, i am personally going to write this wrong and i m going to hit him, and if he doesn t again i m going to hit him and take them out completely. you don t think that is an inhibitor? you don t think that s going to stop assad from using the gases? i don t think these tracks we undertook will do much to dissuade assad. bill: you expect assad to drop more poison gas on the civilian people? it s a distinct possibility. and even if he doesn t use chemical weapons, we have done nothing from this waiting him using barrel bomb s and other very nasty weapons to kill the people he s killed. bill: i want to wrap up the first round with you. so if you were the president, you would not have taken any action against assad for what he did? i wouldn t have taken military action like president trump did. i would have tried to restart diplomatic negotiations bill: like the obama administration and you her john kerry and susan wright say we got it all out there, but they did not. let s go to dr. gillespie. the emotional you are the president, and you do nothing to assad after he does that? first off, it s not up to the united states to enforce the geneva conventions. bill: cool would that be bill: who would that be? we are coming out of 15 years in the middle east where we have accomplished very little other than destabilizing the entire region and creating a iran bill: say on this no. bill: whose responsibility is this? the united states could start to build a coalition in the area. it s up to them to deal bill: if saudi arabia launched a few tomahawk s, you would be okay with a? it wouldn t be the united states. as a citizen of the united states, it s not our business to police what syria is doing in its civil war. if that carries forth to other countries, you have a water barbarity so nobody is going to support the geneva convention that is a leap of you know, a leap of judgment that is not borne out by the facts. bill: weight. we all see what s happening in north korea, iran, do is what s happening in libya, after we dropped bombs in the name of humanitarian intervention, bill: you would hope that this is not an occupying situation. it s the beginning of one. bill: i m going to go to dr. ashford. 30 seconds each. how would you deal with assad. specifically, dr. ashford? i would try and push for a diplomatic solution. i know what you are saying, but the obama administration try to do this, but president trump is in a much better situation for far better relations with the russians, taking a harder line on iran bill: so you say diplomacy? i do say diplomacy because it s the only way civil war ends. bill: dr. gillespie, how do you deal with assad? we do not have to dealassad. our interest in iran right now or in the middle east has to do with islamic terrorism, not the assad regime which is a disgusting regime. you go after the terrorists. we are not in the business of policing what the assad does. bill: we are going after terrorists. we are doing two things here. very good discussion, appreciate it. sebastian gorka on next. we will get the white house. it what severity as it stands tonight. that as the factor continues around the usa and all the worl world. bill: let s go back to washington and bring in sebastian gorka, deputy assistant to mr. trump. we assume that you are happy the missile attack was successful. you are a strategist, dr. gorka. we heard a lot tonight that this is not going to dissuade assad from using gas, he will use it again. number one, i don t believe that what i could be wrong. if he does do it again, have you guys been game planning for that? oh, absolutely. there are people inside the of the pentagon, people on the national security council, my good friends, they have gamed out the possible scenarios. unfortunately, i don t want to disappoint you, mr. o reilly. unlike the last administration, we are not going to give those away in advance because that is very, very unwise. bill: sure. i think everyone understands that. except penn had a journalist who except pinheaded journalist who goad you into doing that. you will have a plan, there are other things that may happen. am i correct on both of those? absolutely. bill: here s a key question. would you, you being the white house represent in the white house, tell assad if you use poison gas again, something worse will befall you. will that message be delivered personally to you? that message, i think, there are many ways to communicate strategic narratives. what you have seen in the last 48 hours is president trump being more decisive than obama was in the last eight years. messages can be given directly or indirectly. again, we are not going to give away how we communicate it. bill: would you give it directly because you could if you wanted to? yes. it s completely within the mandate of the president, secretary to listen, or even secretary mattis to do that. bill: you don t love assad, you want to be on this planet, you better not do it again because it s not going to be pleasant. iran, we haven t heard much from them. usually, they ve got a lot of people in syria doing bad things. can you tell us anything about their reaction? yes. i think is very interesting in the past eight years, they have been very, very loud, they have been very offensive in their comments even after events such as the hostage taking of our naval personnel and other other very dangerous things that they have done. i think their silence is a very positive sign because as the sponsor of the regime in damascus, they have to draw conclusions as well. this is about messages that are sent to nations like russia, china, and iran. bill: let s take russia. if putin condemns the act and sends a warship into the mediterranean, saber rattling a little bit. you take that seriously or do you think that is where short? that is a classic standard operating procedure. we are the most powerful nation in the world has ever seen. this is just classic classic showmanship. it s not even brickman ship. they don t have the capacity to do something with our naval basil. it standard kgb kind of tactics coming out of moscow. bill: as he mentioned we did not get any chinese reaction at mar-a-lago. we did get a statement from the foreign minister that he wants everyone to calm down. that channel, do we know anything about how china processed the attack? if i did, i wouldn t be talking about it in front of your huge audience, i m afraid, mr. o reilly. bill: can you give me, again [site] looks, we are all americans. we want safety for this country. we don t want to tea them off. do you think they were upset that we did this to syria or they don t care? i think they are incredibly strategic. they play for the long game. if there is one nation out there that understands the long game, it s china. look at history, look at sun tzu, look at everything they publish and classify domain. i think they understand. i think the bigger part of this is a new, really, this is proof that we have a new president and they are going to have to draw the right conclusions with regards to countries like north korea. i think it will have a positive effect because they are not irrational, bill. they are not irrational. bill: so you can reason with the chinese food that s what you re saying. yes. bill: what s the deputy assistant do, what do you do? whatever the president, whatever jared kushner wants me to do. bill: would you read that and give us analysis, is that what you do? it can be. i meet with delegation with our allies, our partners. i work with counterterrorism issues, i was asked for my opinion on the first eos, including the immigration ones. i am your general player in the national security field within the white house. bill: you are the utility player. i am. bill: you play every position in the infield. that s it. bill: is a pleasure to have you on tonight, doc. factor tip today. would you like to meet jesse watters? if so, why? the tip moments away. number one, killing the rising sun right behind number three after seven months in the marketplace we believe that the first ever in the american publishing world. but you remain remember that killing kennedy s number one, while killing lincoln was number two in 2012. i know some of you won t believe me but there was a time when i wanted to a bookstore saying i won t never get a book published, it s true. but i persevered, the key to life. thank you all for supporting the books. prior to pearl harbor, the world atrocities all over the globe. are we going to sit idle while iran, russia, china, and north korea plan our demise? nuclear weapons have changed war strategy, countries cannot launch a large scale attacks anymore, war is now. if the liberal democrats are decrying the syrian bombing are condoning the use of chemical weapons on babies which is why the liberal community really isn t decrying it, a few, not many. the attack is justifiable on a human rights basis the liberal community is on human rights, that their dilemma. if missoula, montana, where is the u.n. help on that syria, where it always is, being discussed in meetings. mr. oh, you let lois lerner off too easy, what she did at the irs was criminal and she should have gone to prison. this may come as a shock to you but i do not have the power to incarcerate. if i did, prison overcrowding would be a far worse problem that it is now, i would open alcatraz, i would get to devils back from france. am i rambling here? i believe i am. dan kaiser omaha, nebraska, what makes people think that even if susan rice is guilty, if director called me will not prosecute clint and he will not go after miss rice. i am so tired of congressional hearings that go nowhere, me too. if roger ellis, north hampton england, your interview with ambassador bolton was just brilliant, certain questions and excellent responses, the segment should be used as a teaching tool for college courses. i appreciate that. if killing the rising sun is amazing, although today s american warriors are just as brave, the jodi s home and on campus don t have the necessary love of country to win a war is brutal against the japanese. i ve thought about that a lot and you are most likely correct. america s kids raised during the great depression during the 1930s, much tougher than modern young people. here s the thing, future wars as i mentioned will not need millions of infantry, there will be high-tech driven. the weapons today make world war ii tactics obsolete. after reading old school, i am rooting for global warming, it will melt the snow flakes. read old-school, you and bruce fiercely and had me rolling with laughter. we have loads of snow flakes down here, it s a white out. old-school life in the same lane is a great combination of wit and wisdom, i think you and if you re staying for running it. finally tonight factor tip of the day, i want to thank everybody who is purchase tickets to the spin the stops here live shows. your humble correspondent will see everybody in baltimore, maryland, at the royal farms arena friday, september 22nd. the next night we scurry on down to tampa, florida, a nice venue down there. december 15th, friday will be at caesar s palace, always be a great time, waters will be parted. finally, saturday december 16th, great early christmas gift. we ll be at the honda center in anaheim, california, that show almost 40% sold out after one day. waters does most of our show in the audience you might get a close look at his world. ticket info on info on billoreilly.com, shows will sell out so we hope you check it out, make great gifts for all occasions. factor tip of the day, that is it for us tonight please check out fox news factor website which is different from billoreilly.com. if we would like you to spout off about the factor, name in town if you wish to opine, word of the day, do not be s holisti holistic. that s it for us tonight on this
jesse: he is being looked at right now for not registering as a foreign agent. juan: that s a scandal in and of itself, he had a million dollars from turkey and then opposing any action that would not benefit a turkey as a u.s. official. jesse: that is not the focus the investigation. juan: trump said this was a witch hunt, you re doing the opposite. kevin mccarthy said it is a joke, i bet the russians are paying trump, this was last summer. i don t want anybody to say that someone is paying me. there was big news today that seems to me when you have rod rosenstein who was the deputy attorney general and acting attorney general because jeff sessions has recused himself tell people he knew comey was going to be fired, when he said the memo as a basis for comey s firing. he was set up and used as a stooge. greg: i m sorry, all of these errors are not political errors, their human errors. when trump says to comey, he s a good guy, go easy on him, that s a boss does. kimberly: why is that an error in the rosenstein piece in particular? greg: i don t like this guy, can you do a report on the them. i think i ve done that many times at work. kimberly: that s an error? greg: its nonpolitical human error commits what a guy does who s been a businessman. space bar you say it s loose semantics. kimberly: you re saying it s more loose semantics more than intent. before it s write a memo that will cover me because i want to fire him. juan: press secretaries didn t say trump told rosenstein to write the memo. it seems to me when you also have reports that the trump campaign had 18 undisclosed contacts with the russians in the last seven months, oh, gee, something s going on. then you have a trump saying that this is the greatest witch hunt ever. what does that do? greg: the opposite of a witch hunt is the way you might have approached lois lerner or how the media approached lois lerner and the irs scandal. if that s the opposite of a witch hunt. nobody bothered to hunt anythin anything. jesse: if you re on the defensive, your shredding documents and withholding information from congress, a holder was held in contempt of congress four. hillary destroyed a 30,000 emails, that s look a little defensive to me. juan: after all of the republican probes and hearings, anything? jesse: that s why he was fired because he botched that investigation. greg: you re laughing at the same argument you used on him. you re saying there s no there there because there hasn t been an investigation. juan: i said there was an unvested emma and extensive endless investigation of the benghazi, and irs. if kimberly: president trump today also denied that he shut down the fbi investigation against his former national security advisor, michael flynn. did you at any time urge former fbi director james comey to close or back down the investigation into michael flyn flynn. president trump: no, no. next question. have you wondered if anything you have done is something that might be worthy of these criminal charges as some on the left are implying? president trump: i think it s totally ridiculous, everyone thinks so. we have to get back to working our country properly it so we can take care of the problems that we have. kimberly: no. if greg: what do you expect him to say? do you think you re guilty of anything that was illegal? you ve got me there. what you expect them to say? juan: how about the old al gore, mistakes were made. he knows that mistakes were made, he knows there s been an admission the trump team and knew that mike flynn was under investigation when they put him in his national security adviso advisor? kimberly: how would you if you knew he was going to take the podium dana: i think referring to the special counsel, it would be fine, i m going to talk about whatever. if they know, fine, just say nothing more. just be quiet, move on. i also think that we can do this whole thing about what about in the past and it makes for good discussion and i do not like hypocrisy at all. i like that part of the discussion but it doesn t matter a hill of beans when it comes to this actual investigation. they ll say what about this, what about that from eight years ago. everyone should want this real tight and get it over with as quickly as possible. kimberly: with the likelihood of that? dana: i don t know if the facts, as more and more stuff comes out, the $500,000 in the turks, a conversation with susan rice, action that was not taken on his advice that wasn t disclosed and mike pence didn t know about that, nobody ever told me that he was under investigation, michael flynn s people say there s a lot here that i think will be cleared up pretty quickly by a professional like bob muller. jesse: flynn is a problem, as much as it pains me to say made a great point to the other day that hoping is not obstruction. if hoping was a crime, everyone would be in prison. the dana: when your boss says i hope you do this, that s why you document things, if that includes harassment or something like this jesse: if someone says i hope what happens if i don t considered harassment, but they have a lower threshold. before you might, but that s not what the law says. jesse: i think the law might be intense to undermine. dana: president trump is saying he s not under oath, jesse: i d hate to compare it to obama, there was not a smidgen of corruption in the irs. juan: here s the problem with intent. he tells everyone else get out of the room, i just want to talk to comey. jesse: maybe it was a romantic dinner, you don t know. kimberly: things are very different in the business boardroom, i want to have a talk, you are night ceo to cal, everyone leave the room. very different here and he needs to be advised as to what s proper to protect the president and the united states. coming up. yes, sweetie. greg: i d politely been trying to interject. one of the key examples with flynn whether it was right or wrong, it was not a political move on his part it s called a human move. if you re a nonpolitical person, what do you rely on? 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juan: no. this was a surprise to me because like kimberly, i ve had very positive experience with senator lieberman over the years, i find him trustworthy. here s a situation right now. he was with a law firm since he left the senate and the law firm has representative trump and some litigation, in addition to which he is back to john mccain who was is very close friend in the senate, the three amigos, mccain, lindsey graham, and senator lieberman on somebody issues. he backed mccain against obama obama, that didn t sit well with the hardlines politics of the democratic party. subsequent to that, oppose the iran nuclear deal that obama was struggling to get past in the face of republican opposition. dana: just because his law firm had done some work for president trump who is a billionaire, it doesn t mean that joe lieberman was actually working on any of that business, i guess we would have to see if that was the case, doesn t seem he would be tainted in that way. jesse: i think is a great choice to be fbi director. i interned for joe lieberman when i was at trinity college in connecticut. kimberly: it explains her greatness, it s lieberman s wor work. jesse: was after, that games after. i think it smart enough if trump ever invites him over for dinner, he ll say no. he s not an electric speaker so i don t think he s going to be hot talking it s all over the place. just remember what his background is, he was part of the recount and urged gore to drop out to save the country and to heal the country. he was also someone that voted against clinton, what he did in the office was reprehensible. he voted for the iraq war, he s a principled guy with integrity. nonpartisan nonpartisan in y respects. juan: he s never been a prosecutor, he s never been an fbi agentthe justice department. never handled a major agency. dana: do have an interesting feelings on joe lieberman? 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[laughs] i think that was fake news, the rabbit story. i don t know how many people know the rabbit story. kimberly: please tell. juan: he whacked the rabbit rabbit. kimberly: i think he murdered a bridge juan: at ln the country come obama wasn t born here. jesse: wasn t at hillary clinton who started that? greg: just raising the question, where was he born? jesse: i hope he was born in america. dana: that whole birth tourism think about total human error. greg: that was a jab at me. jesse: when she makes a comment like this on the view, people watch at home obama was treated really poorly, they yelled at you lied during the state of the union and they hear about the birth certificate or two people just say, you have to be kidding me. kimberly: the mainstream liberal media liberals are like the laugh track, everybody cheered. that s what people believe. that s what she believes. juan: if you attached president obama s name to any of the stuff that has happened to president trump in the last month, don t you think that this network, republicans would go ballistic? kimberly: they loved him, he was there guy, they would put them back in for a third term. jesse: they called him the messiah, they said he was a rock star. dana: i think there s a distinction that whoopi goldberg is making. president trump is saying no one is treated worse by the media. she said nobody s treating worse she means the republicans. the media didn t treat president obama badly. i think obviously the media takes a shot at republicans for decades, you have to factor that in. do you remember that first press conference when president obama as to what and chancy about the white house? there was actual news happening that day. i think president trump is much more accessible to the press even though he gets frustrated with them, he punches them and they punch back. i bet he does a lot more they get to hear his direct thoughts from twitter. greg: who is more transparent, trump or obama? dana: trump is not even close. jesse: big shots democrat makes a shocking admission about his own party. you can drive as far as you want for up to three years and be covered. so no matter where you go, your peace of mind and confidence will be as unlimited.as your mileage. visit the certified pre-owned sales event, now through may 31st. and learn more about our unlimited mileage warranty, only at your authorized dealer. mercedes-benz. the best or nothing. usaa gives me the and the security just like the marines did. the process through usaa is so effortless, that you feel like you re a part of the family. i love that i can pass the membership to my children. we re the williams family, and we re usaa members for life. it s about moving forward, not back.t. it s looking up, not down. it s being in motion. in body, in spirit, in the now. boost® high protein it s intelligent nutrition with 15 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for when you need a little extra. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. be up for it .to a new world.s. deeper than the ocean. as unfathomable as the universe. a world that doesn t exist outside you. .but within you. where breakthrough science is replacing chemotherapy with immunotherapy. where we can now attack the causes of disease, not just the symptoms. where medicines once produced for all, are now designed to fit you. today 140,000 biopharmaceutical researchers go bodly to discover treatments and cures unimaginable ten years ago. .and are on the verge of more tomorrow. juan: one of the major reasons president trump is in the white house is because he connected with middle-class voters. many of whom it fed up with the typical ways of washington. now, chicago mayor rahm emanuel a big shot in the democratic party has offered his diagnosis for why the democrats seem so out of touch with regular america. i think we don t talk about and fight for the middle class, if they don t hear we are for them, were not going to convince them that they are wrong. it s not just a set of values that respect who they are in their lives. i think they can come off as a party disdainful of them is the bedrock of this great country. juan: do you agree with rahm emanuel? dana: i think it would be wise to listen to him. if you think back to 2006 when republicans lost all the seats in the midterm election during president bush s second term, who led the democratic effort for all those seats to be one? it was rahm emanuel. i think he understands politics and messaging very well. he s in the midwest is not on one of the coastal states were he s cocooned. if the dealing stories out of the house weren t digging up all the oxygen in the room, i think the bigger story would be the democrats six months, seven months after the election are still completely in disarray, they do not have a strong leade leader. they do not have a plan, they are running in all directions. they benefit from all of this trump coverage so they can escape under the radar. juan: so kimberly, what you hear which rahm emanuel says, he says democratic values are okay, it s just that middle-class americans aren t hearing it. is he lying or is this real? it s a failure to communicate. kimberly: how convenient for him to say they re the ones with the problem, they are not hearing it. the democratic party is perfect. he s not accepting actual responsibility to say that there needs to be transformative change within that party. if you don t take this election as a complete wake-up call, working-class men and women and middle-class families across this country resoundingly made a choice to go with donald trump and not to go with the party, why? because they are not resonated ticket speaking to their values come out to their pocketbook, to their dinner table at night to the gas in their car, to the job security that they hope and pray for. to be able to take their children. they need to wake up because this should have been an easy lay up for them and it s not, in the stead trump got it on a three-pointer shot. juan: he said this, president trump goes after the big cities like chicago for all the murderers and an end philadelphia and new york but he never goes after the suburbs where there s a real opioid crisis, never mentioned it. greg: he s a little late to the party. i think he s going to tell us about an great new setled seinfeld we should be checking out. he wouldn t know the middle class but sat in his lap. this is a guy in the middle of biweekly bloodshed in chicago was taking time out to chick-fil-a, his priorities are based on the people he hangs out with that charity auctions and cocktail events. he would break down it hypes if you want to walmart or a fridays or applebee s which have great ribs by the way. not the one of the midtown area, but it s okay. my point is this, he is so irrelevant and far gone, this is a story we talked about months ago. that was horrible to it, we could do better. juan: i saved this one for you because i think you would be the man to think is this the right solution. here s what he says, he thinks what we need to do is stop focusing on trump s antics, trump s statements, trump s tweets and a focus on the issues, the policy debates. jesse: i m not going to say he s right he s right here. even when he s right, he still speaks about americans like they are a different species. he s speaking about us and them and they don t understand us. it comes off as it s not me, no one wants to vote for a snob. he comes off as the pc police, they don t understand desperate he s like an anthropologist of studying some ancient tribe in order to gain their trust and trick them to sell them his land or something like that. trump speaks to regular americans, he doesn t need a translator. how do i talk to middle-class people? it s corny, i m not buying it. juan: i think he is onto something with the economic message. greg: he s on to something everyone else was onto two years ago. juan: kimberly said it right, democrats are still in disarray largely after this and their approval numbers are down now to the point where there almost equal with republicans. greg: everybody s down, let s face it. juan: some emotional news to discuss when the five returns, were going to pay our respects to the founder of fox news, roger ailes, he passed away, back in a moment. i ve found a permanent escape from monotony. together, we are perfectly balanced, our senses awake, our hearts racing as one. i know this is sudden, but they say: if you love something. set it free. see you around, giulia in fox news wild success but among those to which there were no opposition to their views. of those outside the news may not have liked fnc but their lives have also been improved by smarter analysis created by healthy competition. roger created a more informed public by making our competition work for it, which probably drove them nuts. the mark of an achievement is that you can t imagine the world before it. what was news like before fox news? it was a place where diverse opinions or scared, were millions of patriotic americans were ignored by a mainstream media dominated by a world of frightened, dull witted conformity. that era died when fox news was born. i wouldn t be sitting here if it weren t for roger. he gave me a show in the dead of night called red eye even though he had actually met me first. what was he thinking? i m 1 of hundreds of stories like that. he was a man who saw something in all of us, potential, talent, edge, things that other people didn t see, we will always be grateful for that. we saw something in him too, something will likely never see again. i m going to start with you dana, your thoughts? dana: when you said you wouldn t be here, i think that is true possibly for everybody here at the table. for me, i had never expressed my own opinion in public before i came here. i had been on television, i was speaking on somebody else s behalf. i don t know what he saw inmate that i thought i could do this, i remember when we first started the five six years ago, were talked about legalization of drugs, what do you think, i don t know. with some time and space to develop your career is actually developed here for me. i saw this george w. bush doesn t think he would ve been president without roger ailes and the political consultancy he provided for him and the humor. i would say this so i don t take up all the time. if you re interested and committed cajuns or television or you want to improve your own presentation style. he wrote a book called you are the message. if you haven t read it yet, put it on your list or reread it. it gives you the best insight in how to be a good communicator. it s technology agnostic, it s how to be the best communicator is yourself. my sympathies for his family. kimberly: that was also very instrumental in my life, it was part of the assigned reading at uc davis and my rhetoric and communication class. i loved the book, and i underlined, i highlighted it, no big deal. i never forget the day i was on cnn, roger ailes would like to speak to you i was like well. like the wizard of oz . i want to tell you i think you re doing a great job on television, interested in coming to the fox news channel. i was so excited i bought my book and it was all marked up and i was so happy to have him sign it. to meet somebody that had such an incredible, form of impact on so many people s lives. i came over here and he took a chance on me and developed me from a prosecutor into a talent, he saw something in all of us, each of us have a unique story. what i really loved most about him as he was such a loyal person. he was very devoted to his employees whether you were on camera, off-camera, we all mattered. he cared about our families, what my father was dying he was there for me. he became a second father to me. this is a complicated life he lived, he made me a better person. certainly a better cohost and on-air talent, very good to my son, we share sunday s it was all part of the family even though my parents have passed away and i have no family here. my heart goes out to beth and zachary who was a lovely young man who s been raised incredibly well, bless him and his commitment to not only the channel and all of our lives and to this country. juan: looking at it from a purely political standpoint, i think he had a key role in nixon, i think he had a key role in reagan, that s where i met him. i think he had a key role in george hw bush s presidency. he not only created the top cable news channel in america, but he also put powerful people in office i m just as her talk about mitch mcconnell, he wouldn t be there without roger ailes the senate majority leade leader. his influence and power is so incredible, i do think you ve got to discuss, he left here and very troubled circumstances. terrible charges against him, it s just not the roger i knew, not the roger i loved. he was so great to me come up and he persuaded my wife that i should come here back in 1996, 97 when i first signed a contract. just a great call all around. jesse: at i m incredibly grateful to work for roger ailes, one of the most patriotic people ever met. one of the funniest people very quickwitted. great judge of talent, understood the tv screen, an excellent storyteller and i owe everything to him. my whole life and career the last couple years, it is unfortunate he left here in conjunction with some of the charges, inappropriate behavior. i just want to say he s been a great father, great husband, i feel terrible for them and i wish them all the best and he s a very influential american. greg: one last thing, i was watching sean hannity on tucker and he said something that was so it sounded just like me. when hannity started he said he was terrible. i was worse. the fact that somebody would stick with you when you are bad, he stuck with hannity when hannity claims he was bad. you should have seen redeye in 2007, a sweaty mess like me? 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