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to the nuclear nonproliferation treaty the language that was in there about acquire some people quibble over, but their commitment to the npt was clear and i misspoke in that regard. thank you. i appreciate your comment in response to questions from senator markly and others about keeping a seat at the table through the paris agreement and the general approach that suggests. i believe climate change is a major concern for us in the long term and the short term, and that it s human caused and there are actions we can and should take in response to it as a trained chemist, i respect your training as an engineer, would urge you to be a tttentive to t science because i think it is overwhelming to this point. i do think the jpoa structure, p 5 plus 1 that brought it into force and is enforcing it and the paris climate agreement are two examples of tables where we should have a seat at the table and be advocates and be driving
it. i want to ask you about one other table that was literally designed where the seat for the united states is still empty. there has been discussion about the south china sea and china s aggressive actions in building islands. the u.n. convention on the law of the sea, decade ago, was advanced by republican administration but has still never been ratified by this senate. and in june of 2012, you signed a letter indicating in your role of ceo of exxon/mobil, you supported the law of the sea. i was a member of this committee when then chairman john kerry convened seven hearings where panel after panel of four-star admirals and generals and business leaders and national security leaders and former republican leaders, the administration and senators all testified in support of this, yet we fell short of ratification. had we ratified it, we would have that seat at the table to
aggressively assert the international law of the sea and to push back on china s actions, which during that debate were hypothetical, today are real. would you work to support the law of the sea convention if confirmed as secretary? well, i will certainly work with the president. we ve not discussed that particular treaty. certainly my position i ve taken in the past was one from the per sti perspective of the role i had at the time. i am aware of objection people have. that is the principal objection people have. when given the opportunity to discuss this in the inter agency or the national security council, i m sure we ll have a robust discussion about it. i don t know what the president s view is on it and i wouldn t want to get out ahead of him. well, let me ask about that
if i might, because i came to this hearing with a whole list of questions. and in response to others, you ve addressed many of them. where, in my view, you have a notable difference of view from at least some of the concerns based on some campaign statements by the president-elect. no ban on muslims, no nuclear arms race, no nukes for japan, south korea, saudi arabia, no abandoning our neto allies. no deal with russia to accept the annex asian of cry krimea. all of these to me are quite encouraging. but they suggest some tension with statements made by the president-elect. how will you work through those differences? and just reassure me that you will stand up to the president when you disagree on what is the right path forward in terms of policy. i think earlier in the day someone asked me a similar
acknowledged at this time. however, anybody who wishes to come down can do so. so, it s going to be menendez, rubio, sha hee n, rubio, card in, james markly. sounds like a pretty full third round. i m glad everybody is interested. thank you. mr. tillerson, i admire your stamina. you ve been through several rounds here. and from my perspective, i hope understand while my questions may seem tough in some respects, i take my role of advise and consent of any nominee important. in your case you have a unique background coming to this job. so, trying to understand the person who is going to be the chief advisor to the president-elect in the meetings you just described where everybody gets around the table, but in foreign policy it s going to be you. so, i try to get from the past a gleaming of it so i understand where you re going to be in the future. i hope you understand the nature of my questions. let me take a quick moment. you heard a lot about cuba in proportion to things in the
senator risch s comments on iran, iran was designated a state sponsor of terrorism in 1984 following its connection to the 1983 bombings of u.s. marine personnels in lebanon, a horrific event. killed 241 u.s. service personnel. that label on iran has unfortunately not changed. just this june the state department in its annual report on global terrorist activity listed iran as the state sponsor of terrorism. the report indicated that iran in 2015, quote, provided a range of support including financial training, equipment to terrorist groups around the world including hezbollah. it has been brought to my aa tension that between 2003 and 2005, exxon/mobil sold $53 million worth of chemicals and fuel additives to iranian customers. alarmingly, exxon did not originally disclose this business with iran in its annual 10 k annual report with the sec
in 2006. exxon/mobil only disclosed this information to the sec after receiving a letter from the sec asking for explanations. the securities and exchange commission asked exxon to explain these dealings because iran at the time was, quote, subject to export controls imposed on iran as a result of its absence in support of terrorism, and in pursuit of weapons of mass destruction and missile programs. it went on to say we know your form 10 k does not contain any disclosure about your operations in iran, syria and sudan, close quote. exxon s response has been transaction were legal because infinishian, the transactions did not involve any u.s. employees. in other words, this was clearly seen as a move designed to do business with iran to evade sanctions on iran. so, i have a few questions for you to the extent that you are familiar with this, of the
customer at the end of that deal, and whether you can ascertain that exxon was either knowingly or unknowingly potentially funding terrorism. one of the customers in this sales to iran was the iranian national oil company which is wholly owned by the iranian government. the treasury department of the united states has determined that that entity is an agent or affiliate of iran s islamic revolutionary guard core. the irgc is iran s main connection to its terrorist activities around the world and pledge allegiance to iran s supreme leader the iatola. in other words, the irgc and the foreign arm, the kuds force are the army. they are currently in syria now helping assad remain in power. so, can you tell the committee whether these business dealings with iran did not fund any state sponsored terrorism activities by iran? senator, as i indicated earlier, i do not recall the
details or the circumstances around what you just described the question would have to go to exxon/mobil for them to be able to answer that. you have no recollection of this as the ceo? i don t recall the details around it, no, sir. this would be a pretty big undertaking to try to circumvent u.s. sanctions by using what may or may not i m not ready to make that determination a legal loop hole to do so. but it would be pretty significant. it wouldn t come to your level? it wouldn t come to your level that the securities and exchange commission raised questions with your company about lack of disclosure? that would have. i m just saying i don t recall 2006 would have been the first year that i would have been looking at those things. i just don t recall this is all i m saying. do you recall whether exxon/mobil was doing business with three different state sponsors of terrorism, including iran in the first place? i don t recall.
again, i d have to look back and refresh myself. i would hope you would do so and i would be willing to hear your response for the record because i think it s important. moving to a different thing because it s all in my sanctions field. i m trying to understand that. regardless of whether or not you have read the bill that senator card in and i and others have sponsored in a bipartisan basis, do you believe that additional sanctions on russia, in view of everything that has been ascertained, is, in fact, appropriate? you may view that some may be more useful than others, but do you believe any additional actions in terms of sanctions on russia is appropriate for their actions? well, i would like to reserve my final judgment on that until i have been fully briefed on the most recent cyber events. i ve not had that briefing. and as i indicated, i like to be fully informed on decisions i appreciate that. i would just say that in the public forum that you could read
or any other citizen could read, it s pretty definitive by all the intelligence agencies of what they did. so, it just seems to me that whiem i know you re cautious and you want to deal with the facts, that s the essence of you being an engineer and a scientist and i respect that. there are some things in the public realm from which one can deduce a decision. i d like to hear your response for the record as well. when i know there is additional information and there are additional facts in the classified area, i would wait until i ve seen all the facts. if i knew that there s nothing else to be learned and this is all the facts and there s nothing else out there, then i would say i could make a determination on because this is all we know. but as i have been told, at least i m aware, there is a classified portion of this report that, when i have the opportunity, i look forward to examining that. and then i ll have all the information in front of me. i have one final question, mr. chair, but i ll wait for my
next time. in order for efficacy to prevail, please go on. so, in light of efficacy, so, here s characterizes in essence my big question for you. it is an article that appeared in time magazine, and i really want to hear your honest response. i m going to quote from the record. what russia wants from tillerson is one that stops putting principles ahead of profits, focusing instead on getting the best political bargain available and treats russia as an equal. quote, for the next four years, we can forget about america as the bearer of values, said a former russian energy minister who went to join the opposition. america is going to play the deal game under trump. and for putin that is a very comfortable environment, he told
the radio host this week in moscow. it s an environment where states men sit before a map of the world and they haggle over pieces available to them, much like putin this is the article, not me like putin and tillerson did while weighing the oil fields in the arctic. through the canny eyes of a political deal maker, washington s oldest commitments in europe and the middle east could be seen in much the same way, as a stack of bargaining chips to be traded rather than principles to be upheld. i d like to hear your that s not you being quoted, but that s a characterization that was in one article, but beyond that it s a characterization i ve heard many times. and, so, to me that comes down to the core of everything i ve tried to deduce in my line of questioning to you and i want to give you an opportunity to respond to it. i haven t seen the article in its entirety, but i ll just deal with the quotes that you read. if you conclude that that s the characterization of me, then i have really done a poor job
today because what i had hoped to do in today s exchange on the questions is to demonstrate to you that i m a very open and transparent person. i do have strong values that are grounded in my person ideals and beliefs and the values that i was raised with, and they re under pinned i ve spoken to the boy scouts earlier this morning. they re under pinned by those same values, duty to god and country, duty it to others and duty to yourself. that has guided my life for all of my life, and it will guide my values and it will guide the way in which i will represent the american people if given the chance to do so. i understand full well the responsibilities and the seriousness of it. i don t view this as a game in any way as that article seems to imply. so, i hope, if i ve done nothing else today, you at least know me better. thank you. if there s no objection, there
has been a response from exxon/mobil that my staff gave me relative to the sudan, iran, syria issue. i m going to enter it into the record if that s okay for everyone to be able to peruse. with that, senator rubio. thank you, mr. chairman. thank you, mr. tillerson. you can see the finish line, we re almost there. i really just have four clarifications. i don t think they ll take long. going back to the sanctions piece to build on what senator menendez just asked you, it s my recollection that your testimony earlier this morning, i had asked specifically about sanctions on those who conducted cyber attacks against the united states. not specifying russia in particular, just a bill that said anyone who has guilty of cyber attacks or infrastructure would be subject to sanctions and your answer if i recall correctly, we would want to weigh other factors. that s why you wanted the flexibility not the mandatory language. there may be other factors to take into account such as trade
and economic with that country or actor before we chose whether or not to use a tool such as sanctions. so, in essence, even if you had information available to you or will in the future about specific actors, that alone may not be enough based on that testimony. there are other factors that you would want to take into account before making your recommendation to the president about whether or not to institute sanctions. is that a correct characterization? yes, it is. and i think the way i would try to explain this, at least why i m taking this position, sanctions are not a strategy. sanctions are a tactic. and if we are going to engage and i ll use russia in this case, but i can use any other country that these sanctions would apply to. if we re going to engage in trying to address a broad array of serious issues, i d like to have this as a tool, as a tactic. if it s already played, it s not available to me as a tactic in
advancing those discussions and trying to come to some conclusion that best serves america s interests and america s national security interest. it s a powerful tool. i d like to be able to use it tact tickly. if it s already been played, it s not available to me to use tactically. okay. the second is a clarification of the exchange you had with senator portman about an hour or so ago. he asked you whether there was basically any sort of cooperation with iran where we may have a confluence working on iran. that s the way we have to engage in the overall process. just to clarify, does that mean you would be open potentially to working with iran on issues that we have potentially in common such as defeating isis? well, defeating isis is the one that s right in front of us and we re already kooptding with them in iraq. okay. the third question has to do with sanctions on krimea against senator portman s question.
i believe your answer was and i caught it on television, i had just stepped out at the tail end of the first round. and he asked and i think your testimony was along the lines of we won t change anything right away after we examine the situation. but embedded in that was the notion that potentially at some point there could be an arrangement in which the united states would recognize russia s annex asian of krimea if the government in kiev signed off on it or accepted it as a broader deal to ensure peace and stability. is that an accurate assessment of the testimony as i third? i think what i was trying to recognize is that since that was territory that belongs to ukraine, ukraine will have something to say about it in the context of a broader solution to some kind of a lasting agreement. i m not saying that that is on the table. i m merely saying i don t think that s ours alone to decide. okay. here s my last clarification. and it s more about the hearing here today in general.
in the end of the last round, at the end of questioning, you said there was some misunderstanding in alluding to human rights. you said we share the same values, but you are clear eyed and realistic about it, end quote. i want you to understand the purpose of the questions i ve asked you today because they are in pursuit of clarity and realism. on the clarity i was pleased when your statement today used the term moral clarity and that s what we ve been missing the last eight years. that s why i asked you whether vladimir putin was a war criminal. you declined to label him as. i asked about china, whether they were one of the worst human rights violators in the world, which again you didn t want to compare them to other countries. i asked about the killings in the philippines. i asked about saudi arabia, being a human rights violator, which you also declined to label them. the reason was i m not trying to get you involved in international name calling, but for the sake of having moral
clarity, we need clarity. we can t achieve moral clarity with rhetorical ambiguity. i also did it in pursuit of realism because here s what s realistic. you said you didn t want to label them because it would ruin our chance to influence them or relationship with them. here s the reality. if confirmed by the senate and you run the department of state, you re going to have to label countries and individuals all the time. you expressed today s support from the which labels individuals and sanctions them. you are going to have to designate nations as sponsors of terrorism or organizations as terror groups, again, a label. and one i think a lost us care about is trafficking and persons report which specifically labels countries and ranks them based on how good a job they re doing. that concerns me because that one over the last year, the rankings and the tier system has been manipulated for political purposes. they upgraded cuba and malaysia because we re working with them to improve relations. we he didn t want to have a
label out there that hurt the chances of doing that. that s why i think it s important. but here s the last reason. you gave the need for a lot more information in order to comment on some of these. and believe me, i understand that. it s a big world, there s a lot of topics. these were not obscure areas. i can tell you, number one the questions i asked did not require special information we have. all these sources were built on voluminous open source reporting, rights groups, the leaders sometimes themselves when it comes to the philippines, state department, et cetera, and so we re not going off news reports alone. but the selling point for your nomination has been that while you don t have experience in government and in foreign policy, you have traveled the world extensively. you have relationships all over the world, and you have a real understanding of some of these issues as a result of that. yet today we ve been i ve been unable to get you to acknowledge the attacks on aleppo were by russia and they
would be considered under any standard human rights, somehow you are unaware of what is happening in the philippines, you are not prepared to label what s happening in china and saudi arabia, a country that my understanding you re quite aware of. women have no rights in that country. that s well documented. have you visited there, anyone who has would know. i want you to understand this, too. i said this to you when we met. i have no questions about your character, your patriotism. you don t need this job. you didn t campaign for this job. it sounds like a month and a half ago, someone said you were going to be up here today, you d say that s not true. there s only one reason for you to be sitting behind that table and that s your love for this country and your willingness to serve. i do admire that, i do. but i also told you when we met the position you ve been nominated to, is in my opinion, the second most important position of the u.s. government with all due respect to the vice-president. it is the fashion of this country for billions of people, for hundreds of millions of people as well, and particularly for people that are suffering
and hurting. for those 1400 people in jail in china, those dissidents in cuba, the girls that want to drive and go to school, they look to the united states. they look to us and often to the secretary of state. and when they see the united states is not prepared to stand up and say, yes, vladimir putin is a war criminal, saudi arabia violates human rights, we deal with these countries because they have the largest nuclear arsenal on the planet china is the largest in the world. it demoralizes these people all over the world and it leads people to conclude this, which is damaging and it hurt us during the cold war and that is this. america cares about democracy and freedom as long, as long as it is not being violated by someone they need for something else. that cannot be who we are in the 21st century. we need a secretary of state that will fight for these principles. that s why i asked you these questions. that s why i ask those questions because i believe it s that important for the future of the
world that america lead now more than ever. so, i thank you for your patience today. thank you, sir. senator sha hee n. thank you, mr. chairman, and thank you for giving us some additional time. i want to just comment on senator rubio s statement and senator menendez s because the concern i think i have listening to your testimony today is that your he will kweeloquence cannoe undercut. what i want to know is which values are going to prevail. and are you deferring on answering some of these questions because of concerns that statements that the president-elect has made. so, i won t make that as a rhetorical statement. i don t know that you need to respond to that unless you would like to. but i do think that s a concern
that i have listening to the discussion today. i want to go back to nonproliferation because it got short shrift. the five most recent u.s. presidents, including barack obama, george w. bush, bill clinton, george h.w. bush and ronald reagan, i think you said this morning earlier that you do support the new start treaty which is the most recent of those agreements. but more broadly, do you support the long-standing bipartisan policy of engaging with russia and other nuclear arm states to verifiably reduce nuclear stockpiles? yes, i do. thank you. and i want to go back to climate change because i appreciate your recognition about the science and your concern as an engineer about wanting to have scientific evidence. i would argue that we have a lot
of scientific evidence. in new hampshire we have wbr id= wbr17440 /> a sustain ability institute at the university of new hampshire that produced a report that pointed out the impact of climate change in new hampshire and new england region, i won t read all of those, but two that i thought were most alarming is that for the new england region as a whole right now, the majority of our winter precipitation is rain. it s not snow. that s having a huge economic impact in new hampshire and other parts of new england on our ski industry, snowmobiling, maple sugar industry. and also by 2070 new hampshire will begin to look like north carolina. so, there are tremendous economic implications of that as well as implications on everything from our wildlife, our moose, our trout, to our /b>
fauna and lots of other things that affect wbr-id= wbr18040 /> the state. now, i do appreciate your comments about being at the table as we continue to negotiate around climate change. in 2009 the u.s. government, along with other nations that are part of the group of 20, the g-20, agreed to phase out fossil fuel subsidies. i for one believe that the science shows that fossil fuels have contributed dramatically to climate change. and while much of the responsibility for this g-20 agreement falls on the treasury department, the state department also does have a role in overseeing the objective. so, i really have a two-part question here with respect to subsidies for fossil fuels. the first is at this time when many of our oil companies, particularly large oil companies
like exxon are reaping very good profits, do we really need to continue these subsidies? and second, if confirmed, how would you as secretary of state help to fulfill our international commitment to phase out those fossil fuel subsidies? well, since it s two-part question, obviously the first part, i m happy to offer a personal view on even though that s not within state department s role to make that judgment. this just comes from my understanding of how the various tax elements and tax codes treat certain investments, certain research credits and whatnot. and i m not aware of anything the fossil fuel industry gets that i would characterize as a subsidy. rather, it s simply the application of the tax code broadly, tax code that broadly applies to all industry. and it s just the way the tax
code applies to this particular industry. so, i m not sure what subsidies we re speaking of. if you want to eliminate whole sections of the tax code, then they won t apply to any other industries as well. i just say that as kind of a broad observation. so, as to the state department s role, then, in participating in sum its or discussions around others taking similar action, it would be with that view in terms of how we re going to apply things at home because i think the president-elect s made clear in his views and his whole objective of his campaign of putting america first that he is not going to support anything that would put u.s. industry in any particular sector at a disadvantage to its competitors outside of the u.s., whether it s automobile manufacturing or
steel making or the oil and gas industry. so, it would depend upon how the domestic part of that and how that decision is made by others would then inform the positions that i would be carrying forward in the state department. we re going to break away momentarily. senator marco rubio is outside the hearing. he s speaking to reporters, answering questions on his tough questions of rex tillerson. let s listen in. he s been nominate today what i believe is the second most important position in the u.s. executive branch, the second most visible american on the planet. and from a government perspective. and, so, i intend to take this very seriously. do you think they ll be willing indication you won t actually be able to support his nomination? i wouldn t read into either one. i think it is an indication of why the hearing, from my perspective, involved the questions that it did. it s not an effort to embarrass anyone. this is a gentleman who didn t need to do this.
i mean, he was headed for very comfortable retirement. and the only reason he s doing this is because he loves america and wants to serve it. and i respect that deeply and i wanted him to under it. but i also wanted him to understand these questions were designed for very specific reason, and that is that if we re going to have moral clarity in our foreign policy, we need to be clear. and i don t want to see us move towards a foreign policy in which human rights only matters when nothing else matters, when something more important isn t standing in the way. is it because of donald trump on these issues? this is the criteria i believe should be applied to every one of our secretary of states, no matter who the president may be. if he couldn t resolve your concerns in a hearing, a day-long hearing, how could he resolve your hearin resolve your concerns when the hearing is over? i m going to look at this, a very important decision. i recognize partisan split of the committee and what it all means. i have to make sure that i m
100% behind whatever decision that i make because once i make it, it isn t going to change. if you make the decision to vote against him, you could staal this committee, this nomination in committee. are you prepared to be the one republican to vote no? i m prepared to do what s right. i m not analyzing it from a partisan standpoint. i was elected by the people of florida, i have a very clear view on foreign policy, in my presidential race and in reelection. i swore an oath a week ago to defend and uphold the constitution of this country. my view is that the president deserves wide latitude in their nominations, but the more important the position is the less latitude they have. it s like a cone. it s really wide. in some positions as it gets higher and higher, the discretion becomes more limited and our scrutiny should become higher and i consider this the highest of them all. if you decide, would you still let it go out of the committee unfavorably or i haven t analyze it this
way. i m not going to vote two different ways. all right? senator, there are also as you know, the intelligence committee having intelligence from the russians about potential information that could compromise donald trump financially and personally. have you been briefed about any of this information and are you concerned about that? as i said on the campaign, i m not going to comment about anything that was procured or could potentially be the work of a foreign intelligence agency to undermine a political process. so, i have trust inial the agencies involved and obviously the congress will have a role to play at some point. not on that matter, but on anything. i m not going to comment on things like that. as a critic of russia, are you concerned about trump s ties to russia? again, i just operate on what we know to be true and i m not going to allow i think the russians have already achieved a large objective of theirs and that is to undermine the legitimacy of the of our presidential election, pit us against each other. i think they re sitting back and saying, you know, we ve got
americans fighting over our involvement in the elections. that s perfect. it undermines their democracy. we re going to take our job seriously. we re going to work hard to get to the truth but i m not going to be an active participant in furthering that division until all the truth is out one way or the other. okay? thanks, guys. thank you. so there you see the news, important news. senator marco rubio of florida basically saying he s not sure if he s going to vote to confirm rex tillerson as the next secretary of state. there are 11 republicans on the senate foreign relations committee, ten democrats. jim sciutto, if he votes against, if he votes against this confirmation, that confirmation could stall as our correspondent pointed out in the committee. that s exactly right. it would be significant, no question, and we ve been sitting here watching. what had been a very smooth hearing. there were some tough questions there, but it wasn t the fire works some had predicted going in when rex tillerson was announced particularly in light of his ties to russia, a long
history of vladimir putin and in light of the difficulties with russia. it seemed smooth. it s interesting raising, repeatedly raising the possibility of voting against him and it s interesting, it s not really on the issue that we would have expected that to happen. we might have expected it to happen on russia, but we had rex tillerson say many times russia is not our friend, does not share our values, we have to get tougher on russia. he holds open the possibility of let s have discussions, maybe there is a way to dee escalate. he didn t come out there embracing russia. in fact, he differed with president-elect trump on the muslim ban, on giving nuclear weapons to u.s. allies on a departure from neto article 5. all those issues he was mainstream. what ends up possibly tripping him up from marco rubio s perspective is issues of human rights, not wanting to call out vladimir putin for killing civilians in syria, not wanting to call out saudi arabia for violations of women s rights or the philippine president duterte
for extra judicial killings, not the issue we expect we don t know what s going to happen to trip this up. he said i m prepared to do what s right when asked. will you vote to confirm rex tillerson as the next secretary of state? the people of florida elected me to do. he s leaving it open. he is. the question sult mattly does marco rubio want to expend this political capital on blocking one of the flagship nominees for donald trump s cabinet. it wouldn t only be an issue for marco rubio of crossing the president-elect donald trump and his choice, but it s also an issue of him crossing mitch mcconnell and creating an enemy at the very beginning of this new republican congress out of the republican leader. does he mitch mcconnell promised donald trump not only would he get these nominees confirmed, but he would do so quickly without drama. this could be some drama if marco rubio were to hold up this
nomination. does he want to create an enemy of mitch mcconnell when marco rubio will have priorities of his own he wants to pass through congress. he could use this to extract concessions later from mcconnell if he shows that he s thinking about this and then ultimately does support rex tillerson. as you point out, jim sciutto, he really wanted rex tillerson to say that, yes, the russians are engaged in war crimes, for example, in aleppo, in syria right now. he didn t hear that. he didn t. deft answers i might say from rex tillerson. keep in mind if he were to get through, he would be america s top diplomat. for america s secretary of state to say to an ally of the philippines, yes, their president is murdering people. that has import. you can understand him wanting to be diplomatic as the nation s top diplomat there. but clearly not satisfying answers to marco rubio. i suppose we should give marco rubio credit that at the end of the day that s what a confirmation hearing is about,
about asking hard questions. he said it s the the second most important job in the country. and if he feels that his conscience doesn t allow him to vote for him, then he s doing his job as a senator. yeah, he s very passionate about these issues of human rights. you see this as part of a bigger problem potentially for maybe for some of the other cabinet nominees? potentially. i mean, on all of these hearings what we re seeing consistently are democrats and some republicans really looking for the issues where they can show a wedge between some of these nominees and the republican party and the president-elect donald trump, and there are plenty of these issues, not only russia, but in some of these other issues like nato. we talked about the trans-pacific partnership today in this hearing and tillerson said he actually does not oppose it and would suggested he would support these multi lateral trade agreements that donald trump has not supported. and, so, i think we re really seeing sort of these fights that will continue throughout this
administration previewed in these hearings, and democrats and even some republicans are airing them in public. that could be a problem for donald trump moving forward. i want to go to our correspondent on capitol hill right now. you were right in the middle of that q & a with marco rubio. the headline is he is not saying he will vote to confirm rex tillerson as the next secretary of state. reporter: absolutely, very significant what marco rubio said coming out of this hearing. he has significant concerns with tillerson and his answers through the course of this day long hearing. he said this is the second most important job in government. and as the secretary of state, you need to have moral clarity and speak with clarity around the world. and he said that through the course of this hearing, he was not hearing very clear answers to very clear questions, namely about russia. at the beginning of this hearing today, rubio saying that
actually whether or not if vladimir putin is a war criminal, he said, do you think vladimir putin is a war criminal? rex tillerson conanswer that question. similar, through the course of the hearing, asking questions about china, one of the biggest human rights abusers, similarly mr. tillerson said a human rights abuser. i m not sure if it s one of world s biggest human rights abusers. questions about philippines and saudi. rubio was not satisfied with those answers. so, wolf, if he votes no on this committee, it could be enough to stall the nomination because there s only one seat difference between republicans and democrats right now on the senate foreign relations committee. it could be enough to stall the nomination. there are still ways republicans could presumably avoid a deadlocked committee in which they would not be able to get the votes out of the committee. there are procedures they could do to advance the nomination to the floor and try to prove it on a full senate floor, but that is
frowned upon. it is it doesn t usually happen in the senate. we don t know if it will actually get to that point. suffice to say if rubio votes no, it will be extremely significant. donald trump may have to choose another nominee, especially if he does not get that approval of the senate foreign relations committee. so, very significant. rex tillerson s testimony did not satisfy marco rubio s concerns. it is not clear what exactly will actually alleviate those concerns. he s not going to have a chance to question him further. so, other than in written testimony. a big development just now outside the hearing room for marco rubio saying he doesn t know yet whether he can support rex tillerson. he still has significant concerns about key issues that tillerson would deal with as secretary of state, wolf. he said i m prepared to do what s right. he refused to say whether or not he would vote to confirm. very quickly, manu, the ten democrats on the senate foreign relations committee, you re working under the assumption that all of them will vote to
deny confirmation. but there are some of them who might vote yea. reporter: that is absolutely true. it s possible some democrats could turn the other way and eventually vote for mr. tillerson. perhaps they could save tillerson s nomination. we don t know that yet. i did ask cory booker specifically, the new jersey democratic senator, are you open to supporting rex tillerson. and he said that he is open to it. he did not rule outvoting for rex tillerson. so, we ll see when push comes to shove how the democrats and the republicans on the committee eventually vote. but if the democrats decide to vote in unison and rubio votes no, that is big, big trouble for rex tillerson. and on the floor of the senate, wolf, there are also concerns from, say, lindsey graham, the south carolina republican voicing concerns about tillerson s views on russia. and if rubio votes no, i m sure that could persuade lindsey graham, potentially, to vote no on the floor of the senate as
well as potentially his friend john mccain, another sharp critic of russia. those are three republicans, all three of those republicans if they vote no, that means tillerson is not going to be the next secretary of state. you raise a key point, what do democrats do, they have not made a decision them self. perhaps some of them end up voting and saving rex tillerson. it could come down to the wire, wolf. some of those democrats have said they are certainly open to the possibility of voting to confirm. senator chris coons, he hasn t decided yet but he seemed at least open to that possibility. manu, stand by for a moment. dana bash is with us. dana, this could be the first major speed bump or hiccough in the major confirmation process for donald trump s potential nominees. he could. let s just talk about kind of, i don t know if it s irony or just kind of the strange situation we are in politically here with marco rubio who was one of the last of trump s primary
opponents for the presidency for the republican nomination now potentially holding the fate of his nominee for secretary of state in his hands. and doing so, not because of politics. i mean i think it s genuine and those of us who have followed marco rubio in the senate know this is his passion, foreign policy is his passion. you can tell by the way that he questioned rex tillerson. where he was going, he really wanted answers and the fact he talked about moral clarity and realism in the way that rex tillerson would conduct himself. that kind of tells you what the answer to that, about the politics. but i do think, you know, you kind of remember back to when donald trump was making fun of rubio throwing the water over his head, little marco, that is all coming to fore. now, having said that, to your point i was actually just looking at the list of democrats on the committee, although there are ten democrats up for reelection in trump states in
2018. many of them are not on this committee. a lot of, frankly, more liberal democrats on this committee. but it doesn t mean they won t vote like chris coons to give him who he wants to secretary of state. clearly russia now, the whole relationship between the u.s. and russia, non-relationship if you want to call it that, and the personal connection between the president-elect and putin, it puts rex tillerson in answering tough questions for marco rubio about war crimes, is he a war criminal, putin, for what he s done in krimea, in syria, in aleppo. it puts him in a very awkward position. you kind of saw rex tillerson strike that balance, walk that fine line between giving a nod to senators telling them what they wanted to hear which is, yes, russia is an adversary. i think he went further in a lot of places than donald trump did, calling russia adversary. saying he did believe russia
putin probably was behind the hacking. by saying that their actions in krimea were illegal. he definitely didn t want to go as far as to kind of personally criticize putin, talk about any actions that they might take against putin. and i thought it was very interesting. in addition to that, he was saying, listen, i know russia. i know vladimir putin, and i m going to know how to talk to him. i know what they want. what do they want? they want to create their sphere of influence. they want influence in the world, and this is why they re going into krimea. this is why they re going into syria. if you can give a nod to how they are trying to spread their influence and try and bring them to the table, then he thinks that there may be a more constructive relationship. and he also said that the u.s. needs to get tougher with russia, which i thought was ironic because president-elect trump is talking about better relations. he said in ukraine that they should have the u.s. should have shown a more robust military posture, that russia
accepts and respects strength and the u.s. needs to be a lot stronger. and as he did throughout the hearing, he was talking about weak leadership by the obama administration for not standing up to putin and kind of said, look, the reason we are where we are now is because of weak leadership. i want to be precise. the current secretary of state, and you covered john kerry, the state department right now, they have not called putin a war criminal. have they they haven t called putin a war criminal. secretary kerry has been very careful. these are legal definitions that the lawyers have to sign off on. he has gone very far up to the line to say that it looks as if war crimes have been conducted and these should be investigated and he has been not shy about criticizing vladmir putin. he has not branded the war criminal before the international criminal court. enter it has said it does appear that war crimes were committed by syria and russia and they
should be look into. didn t skirt the line but looked up to it. tillerson has a close relationship with russia. listen to this exchange with tillerson before the foreign relations committee earlier this morning on russia. i think what we are witnessing is an assertion on their part to force a conversation about what is russia s role in the global world order. the steps being taken are simply to make that point. russia is here. russia matters. they are a force to be dealt with. that s a fairly predictable course of action. the important conversation we have to have with them is does russia want to now and forever be an adversary of the united states. do you want this to get worse or does russia desire a different relationship? we are not likely to ever be friends.
our value systems are starkly different. we do not hold the same values. i also know the russian people. there is scope to define a different relationship that can bring down the temperature around the conflicts we have today. a very diplomatic response. those were questions posed by marco rubio. rex tillerson here have drew all these issues prebted a very mainstream policy for the u.s. very consistent on russia. bush tried it, obama tried it. try today get friendly. it didn t work. the muslim ban, something that
donald trump on the campaign trail held out that possibility. so you have a very mainstream guy, a very bipartisan foreign policy there which puts him in direct contradiction with his president. does that pull the president towards the center. is this an indication this doesn t show his plans. i think it is the latter. when everything that i have heard, a big part of the goal of the transition and frankly of donald trump himself was to get people whom he considers peers so he does have the respect to listen to him. if rex tillerson does come to donald trump with what you call a mainstream foreign policy that perhaps he will let rex tillerson kind of lead the way on that. obviously, there are very
specific issues where they do differ. that will be fascinate tog see. the big point we were talking about in a lot of the hearing and this press conference that trump had this morning on russia, the question going in was whether it was going to be rex tillerson s achilles he el has done this so well and gotten an awrd. even if it stalls, they have procedures to bring it up for a floor vote and see what happen when is all 100 members of the senate vote? it is very rare. i believe the last time they this this was john volt when he was a nominee to be an ambassador. it was stalled in the committee for a very long time. they just circumvent the committee and put it on the senate floor. it doesn t happen very much for a reason. the leadership of both parties
and the senators themselves want to give deference to the committees. that s why they exist. i think you need to remember, john bolt, who most of this committee did not want was one of the main candidates for secretary of state now for deputy. be careful what you wish for. if marco rubio does not vote in rex tillerson and the president-elect is force td d t look to someone else, he may look to john bolton. we are going to take a quick break and resume our special coverage. much more coming up right after this.

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walter shaw said this, imagine nixon waiting for a stack of pardons after the watergate break-in. he has the power to put his henchmen above the law. that is what trump is telling manafort and others with the pardon of d souza. for more, we have jim acosta an at t acosta at the white house. reporter: the president is not only considering granting pardons with celebrities, but he granted a pardon for dinesh d souza and considering martha stewart and blagojevich. d souza has made offensive and racially loaded comments over the years about former president obama. the president is considering each case on merits. here is what deputy raj shah
corruption charges. and the u.s. is hitting tariffs and they are hitting back. the u.s. slapped tariffs on the eu, mexico and canada. the three had temporary exemptio exemptions, but the white house let those expired after it did not get what it wanted in negotiations. the goal is to help u.s. steel workers. metal tariffs could raise prices. think cars, appliances and food cans. it puts the u.s. in another trade dispute as it is targeting $50 million in chinese goods. these three struck back. eu and mexico with tariffs on u.s. goods. canada will tariff on equal amounts. justin trudeau says this just won t hurt canada. this risks 2.6 million american jobs. especially if it causes nafta to
fall apart. president trump responded saying he wants a fair deal on nafta or nothing at all. the needless trade war will hurt the u.s. economy and foreign policy and perhaps republicans in november. republicans are fuming. senator ben sasse says it is dumb to treat allies the way you treat opponents. you should work with them instead of targeting them. watch this space. more to come. imagine this, the former spy chief and top aide to a dictator of a country that threatened to nuke the united states sitting face-to-face with the commander in chief. that will play out in washington today. secretary of state mike pompeo confirming the top north korean official met with kim yong chol will hand deliver a letter to the united states. we have nic robertson in seoul,
south korea. it appears the summit is still on track in singapore. good morning, nic. reporter: good morning, david. president trump thought progress was made in the talks with mike pompeo and kim yong chol. for his part, pompeo said progress had been made in the last 72 hours. that was a positive sign. he still said it is not clear whether the summit will actually go ahead. he believes that the korean leadership is contemplating a fundamental shift. a strategic change that would be something different than the path taken in the past. it will require a bold move by kim jong-un. he describes this as historic movement and pivotal time. emphasis now is very much on the north korean side. in the letter, maybe kim yong
thing with trump and russia is a made up story. it s an excuse by the democrats for having lost an election that they should have won. hard to forget that one. new information this morning on the cost of the mueller probe. the spend aing report shows the justice department spent $17 million since last may. ten minutes past the hour. steve bannon speaking out on the russia probe in the exclusive cnn interview. bannon saying he was against firing james comey and is a supporter of special counsel robert mueller. bannon had harsh words for former trump lawyer ty cobb. if you fire him, get a special prosecutor. i have been part of that as a witness of fact. i always said he is a combat marine. great individual. it should play out. where i have a problem and huge problem, i was a guy that said publicly that ty cobb should be
fired. he gave the president, i thought, terrible advice. i think actually lied to the president consistently about the nature of the investigation and timing of it. bannon also says that deputy attorney general rod rosenstein should be fired. if he refuses to turnover all documents with the fbi source whom president trump accused of spying on his campaign. you can see the full interview tonight at 9:00 and during fareed zakaria on sunday. washington post reporting that fbi director james comey was interviewed by the u.s. d.c. attorney s office to see if his deputy andrew mccabe broke the law. claiming he misled investigators about disclosure to the media. this is a sign that the office is considering whether mccabe
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conservative fire brand. could this be a signal for aides caught up in the russia investigation? fierce pull back from allies and the president s party over new tariffs from the trump administration. perhaps as many as 2.5 million american jobs could be on the line. do something about your dad s immigration practices you feckless [ bleep ]. still shocking. samantha bee apologizing for the vulgar crack about ivanka trump, but she gets to keep her job. is there a double standard? welcome to early start. i m dave briggs. i m christine romans. did you know today is friday? yeah. i have been waiting on it all week. that s the breaking news i can get behind. 4:31 in the east. welcome to early start. dinesh d souza, rod blagojevich and martha stewart. what do these names have in common? all prosecuted by trump adversaries and now on the list for pardons. it started when president trump
announced a full pardon to d souza. he pleaded guilty in 2014 for violating campaign finance laws. d souza has a history of ra racially charged against about obama. now d souza says obama and his stooges tried to extinguish my american dream and destroy my faith in america. thank you, donald trump. the president s move raising eyebrows of many. including the former director of the office of government ethics who tweeted quote imagine if nixon was waiting with a stack of pardons for plumbers to return from the watergate break in. the president has the power to put his henchmen above the law. that is what he is telling us. for more, here is jim ancosta. reporter: the president is not only considering granting
pardons with celebrities, but he granted a pardon for dinesh d souza and considering martha stewart and blagojevich. both martha stewart and blagojevich made an here answpp the apprentice. d souza has made offensive and racially loaded comments over the years about former president obama. the president is considering each case on merits. here is what deputy raj shah told reporters. is he sending a message to his allys? allies? each of the president s actions on pardons or other things should be judged on the merits and circumstances surrounding that case. reporter: the president has shown a willingness of pardons for controversial figures. including sheriff arpaio. he was convicted in court of ignoring a judge s order of stopping racially profiling latinos. dave and christine. thank you.
the white house admitted to jim that you can t ignore trump s considerations. consider this, former u.s. attorney preet bharara prosecuted dinesh d souza and james comey and martha stewart. as well as patrick fitzgerald. and the u.s. is hitting tariffs and they are hitting back. the u.s. slapped tariffs on the eu, mexico and canada. 25% on steel. 10% on aluminum. the three had temporary exemptions, but the white house let those expired after it did not get what it wanted in negotiations. the president calls this fair trade. the goal is to help u.s. steel workers. metal tariffs could raise prices. raise prices on cars and appliances and food cans.
it puts the u.s. in another trade dispute as it is targeting $50 million in chinese goods. these three struck back. eu and mexico with tariffs on u.s. goods. canada will tariff on equal amtd ever amount amounts of tariffs for the u.s. justin trudeau says this just won t hurt canada. unfortunately, we know this will lead to harm for the american industries. our economies are too inter linked to not have wbr id= wbr21350 /> significant disruption in american families and american communities south of the border. the chamber of commerce says this move risks 2.6 million u.s. jobs. especially if it causes nafta to fall apart. nafta is 1.5 million jobs tied if the u.s. leaves nafta. president trump responded to trudeau saying he wants a fair /b>
deal or none at all. wall street editorial board slamming trump. hurting his foreign policy and perhaps republicans in november. republicans are fuming. ben sasse says this is dumb. speaker paul ryan says the u.s. should work with allies instead of targeting them. the wall street journal editorial. i encourage you to read it. it says the president thinks he is being ronald reagan. but terrifying echos of herbert hoover. the sunset clause in wbr-id= wbr21950 /> particular is one that is baffling. certainty is what is needed with markets. a non-starter. the white house wanted a fi five-year sunset clause on nafta. justin trudeau did not come to the meeting in washington after that. g-7 is a week away. samantha bee apologizing for an ugly crack about ivanka
trump. bee s insult on her show full frontal came after she posted a picture of ivanka trump and her son with the immigration issue at the border. ivanka trump who works at the white house chose to post the second most oblivious tweet we have seen this week. you know, ivanka, that s a beautiful photo of you and your child, but let me say one mother to another. do something about your dad s immigration practices, you feckless [ bleep ]. he listens to you. put on something tight and low cut and tell your father to [ bleep ] stop it. tell him it was an obama thing and see how it goes. okay? bee s slam comes the same week roseanne was fired for a racist tweet and some yelling of a double standard. it is not smart or funny. samantha bee tweeted i would like to apologize to ivanka trump and viewers.
i crossed a line and i deeply regret it. tbs is owned by the time warner. joined bee seeking forgiveness. samantha bee has apologizing and those words should not have aired. auto trader and state farm are pulling ads from bee s show. sarah sanders called the language vile and vicious. this is further than the white house or president went denouncing roseanne s comments following the president s demand for apology for his treatment by abc. imagine this. the former spy chief and top aide to a dictator of a country that threatened to nuke the united states face-to-face with the commander in chief. that will actually play out in washington today. secretary of state mike pompeo confirming the top north korean official he met kim yong chol will hand deliver a letter from kim jong-un. we have nic robertson live with the latest from seoul.
good morning, nic. reporter: good morning, dave. north korea s former spy chief, a man under sanctions, given dispensation to travel to the new york area and has now a waiver to go to d.c. and hand the letter to president trump. what is inside it? we don t know. president trump listened to what mike pompeo told him about the talks. pompeo and chol made clear that pompeo believes progress has been made in the past 72 hours. he also made it very clear the moment they don t seem to have anything completely concrete and that the north koreans are ready to get to the summit in singapore. he still is not sure if it will go on. it is a historic moment and pivotal moment. it depends on the analysis he has and president trump seems to have that the north korean leadership is contemplating,
these are his words, contemplating a change of path. a strategic shift away from the way they acted before. when the letter is delivered to president trump, will it unlock the doors to the summit in singapore? unclear. pompeo not willing to make that commitment we he spoke yesterday. dave. a rapidly evolving story. nic robertson in seoul. thank you. the washington post reporting former james comfbi d james comey was interviewed by the department over andrew mccabe after mccabe misled investigators. this is a sign the office is considering if mccabe should be charged with the crime but is not a definitive indication. the pressure on jeff sessions to un-recuse himself on the russia investigation was not limited to one conversation.
cnn confirmed the president tried four times in the last 14 months to get his attorney general to change his mind. sessions recused himself after conversations with the ag and russian ambassador during the campaign. the frustration from the president has grown which left trump without a loyalist overseeing the russia investigation. for the first time, we hear from michael cohen on tape making threats against a reporter. the reporter now works for npr. he was with the daily beast in 2015. he reached out to cohen on a rape accusation ivanhis former made against donald trump before their divorce. here is what took place. talking about the frontrunner for the gop.
as well as private individual who never raped anybody and of course i understand that the very definition you can t rape your spouse. if you write a story that has mr. trump s name in it with the word rape and i ll mess your live up for the rest. for as long as your on this planet, you will worry about what i m going to [ bleep ] do to you. michael cohen was wrong. spousal rape is a crime. he apologized for the remark. in the comment following the release, cohen said as i said in a previous statement. i made an inn inarticulate
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screws loose, i guess, never really knew it until now. thinking if i land successfully, alaska will give me a job as a pilot? i think they would give you a job doing anything if you can pull this off. yeah, right. can this thing do a back flip you think? try to do a barrel roll. if that goes good, i ll go nose down, call it a night. let s try and land the airplane safely and not hurt anyone on the ground. all right, man, damn it. i don t know, man, i don t know. i don t want to. i was hoping that was going to be it, you know? cnn s aviation and government regulation correspondent rene marsh joins us, working this story all morning with her sources, chilling to listen to that audio, so calmly the man talking to air traffic control. what do we know about this man and his level of access? we know he is a 29-year-old,
after the plane took off and took off from the airport, witnesses saw it flying erratically. tell us what did you see when this airplane was up in the air? my wife and i were in the back alley. we live in eatonville, about 60 miles south of seattle. my wife looked at me. s she knew about the airplane, what s up with that. i said that s a q 400. that should not even be in this area at all. and she started shooting video. i said get video. there s possibly 75 people or more on the plane. we have a small municipal airport in town, not big enough for one of those planes. so it was literally like 300 feet off the ground. and heading south, straight in
line with the main drag here. it started to turn and go towards mount rainier, looked like it was going down, he pulled it back up. looked like he was going to circle around to land at our airport. i told my wife, grab my keys and wallet, i am heading to the wallet. i had phone in hand, heading to the airport, he turned north towards jblm. at this time there were no fietder jefiet fighter jets. not knowing the situation, i was concerned about 75 people could be on that plane. incredible. we later learn he was the only person on board the plane, thankfully was the case in this situation. i want to talk to you about your background as ground service agent. you don t need to talk specifically about the individual on the plane, but from your perspective, what kind of access would an employee have
for as long as you did, could you have dreamed up a scenario like this? it seems almost impossible. no. i would have never thought anything like this would ever happen ever. talk to me a little about the type of security screening you have to go through before you can be hired for a job like this. obviously horizon, horizon has their security process, all airlines have a security process. the airport has their processes they follow. there s cameras, i mean, you re monitored the whole time when you re there. how this guy was able to get the plane off the ground is astonishing. we re all going to be looking at this. it is a learning lesson. thank god nobody was injured except for him. learning lesson. this has to be a learning lesson. i don t know what the lesson is,
i don t know how they re the professionals. but they do an amazing job. we ve mazing workers. we have amazing workers. these workers, they work great, they re all about getting passengers safely on and off. you know, i don t know the answer to that. you know, if this is just a one off, and hopefully they can get the answer why he did this. all right. nick junka, i appreciate your perspective. we re thankful for the fact this person didn t appear to be inclined to hurt anyone other than himself, a tragic situation. there will be a ton of questions about what happened and how it could change protocols going forward. nick, thank you for your perspective. we appreciate it. we re going to continue to follow that breaking story. we have more breaking news this
morning. indicted new york congressman chris collins has announced he is suspending his campaign for re-election. the republican representative was charged this week with insider trading. cnn white house reporter sarah westwood i believe is following the latest developments, it is actually athena jones. i m sorry. you have been following the latest on chris collins. tell us what do we know at this point? hi, ryan. we re just learning in the last hour or so that representative collins is going to be stepping aside. this comes a few days after he vowed that he would fight these charges, he would continue to work for the citizens of his district. reliably red district. this is part of the statement. after extensive discussions with family and friends the last few days, i decided it is in the best interest of the constituents of new york 27, the republican party, and president trump s agenda for me to suspend my campaign for re-election to
fight charges he calls meritless. now that he is stepping aside, it is not entirely clear what happens to that race outside buffalo. that s a reliably red district. it is difficult to remove a nominee s name from the ballot in new york, according to new york board of elections because of various reasons. it is not clear what is going to happen with that seat. collins was the first member of congress to endorse president trump. we have not heard any response from the president on the latest news. thank you for that update. chris collins not seeking re-election after being indicted. athena, appreciate that report. still to come, charlottesville, virginia on edge, one year after white nationalists clash with counter protesters. today, the president is condemning racism and calling for calm as the white supremacists plan for a rally outside the white house this weekend. a live report is koj up.
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we continue to follow breaking news out of seattle where an airline blou ee took a plane employee took a plane. the 29-year-old ground service agent then crashed the plane in a wooded area south of seattle. he died in that crash. we re watching the investigation for any developments and will discuss the security risks at pl play in a bit. charlottesville, virginia on edge one year after a white nationalist rally turned violent and deadly. president trump is calling for calm, tweeting the riots in charlottesville a year ago resulted in senseless death and division. we must come together as a nation. i condemn all types of racism and acts of violence. peace to all americans. a state of emergency is in effect in virginia. law enforcement is taking no
chances after being criticized last year for not being prepared. police are already patrolling. multiple events are planned, aimed at bringing the community closer together. today, the university held a morning of reflection in honor of victims of last year s violence, and the university president talked about the ways the community can move forward. the fact that nothing can bring back the splendor and glory of those whose lives were lost last august, but we can still despite our grief find strength in what remains behind and we can still have hope, which is what summons us here this morning. cnn s kaylee hartung looks at the protest last year and how community leaders are vowing to not let history repeat itself.
clashes erupted between protesters. terror in virginia. one person is dead. one year later, a new team of officials are vowing not to let history repeat itself. we have to own that we did not live up to our training, our oath, but we have the opportunity to recover and get it right. after a sharply critical report placed blame on the charlottesville police department for its failure to contain the violence and protect the public. this is not a law enforcement event, this is a public safety endeavor. chief al thomas retired. i walked into this position. i walked in in some ways with my eyes wide open but i didn t realize probably the extent and the breadth and width of what that responsibility would be because i had not really had the opportunity to hear how hurt this community was and still hadn t healed. reporter: the first images of
hate america saw in charlottesville came from here. the night before the planned and permitted alt right rally, they marched on the university of virginia campus with tiki torches. the visual was startling. but that wasn t the worst we d see. the next morning, violence in this intersection as police looked on just outside the park where robert e. lee s statue stands. so-called alt right activists chanting racist slogans, carrying guns and confederate flags clashed with anti-protesters. this street where he barreled his car into counter protesters remains a memorial to heather heyer. the driver will be tried for murder and federal hate crimes. there was anger and outrage in reaction to the rhetoric openly
on display here. i have a message to all the white supremists and nazis that came into charlottesville today. our message is plain and simple. go home. you are not wanted in this great commonwealth. shame on you. reporter: then. very fine people on both sides. reporter: president trump s refuse will to condemn the refusal to condemn the racist attack and the immediate aftermath further inflamed the national conversation. when you think about the flashpoint that charlottesville was in this country for the dialogue around race relations, where do you think we are one year later? so i don t know if we as a city or even as a nation have had that real honest dialogue about equities in terms of really moving the needle forward. i m not sure that we ve actually instituted policies, procedures or even support that could help move the conversation beyond the conversation.
reporter: so the conversation continues this weekend as the second unite the right rally organizes in the nation s capital. in charlottesville, the focus will be on continued healing. the chief says the city has an all encompassing plan for whatever or whoever the weekend may bring. despite president trump s tweet this morning, many here in this community feel the president has done irreparable damage, namely the charlottesville mayor was among the activists here in these streets a year ago, before she was mayor, trying to protect the city from white nationalists marching into it. she says the president s rhetoric, she calls hate, continues to cause turmoil for this community. td concern i hear from the concern i hear from members of the community, despite 1200 personnel here to support the
city in law enforcement capacity, people are concerned for the lone wolf, like the driver that plowed a car into a group of counter protesters. that s what they fear. they don t expect another siege by white nationalists. ryan, tonight many students from uva and members will gather at the rotunda at uva, the same where the white nationalists brought tiki torches a year ago. they say it is a time to reclaim grounds and get support from university of virginia. kaylee hartung where things are quiet. hope it stays that way. joining me to discuss this, congressman tom garrett, republican representative from virginia, he represents the charlottesville area. congressman, thank you so much for joining me. you obviously were very strong in condemnation of the racist actors at the rally in charlottesville last year. i want to get your reaction to president trump s tweet this morning. last year he was heavily criticized for saying, quote,
there were very fine people on both sides of last year s event. this year, he is condemning all types of racism. what has changed from the president s perspective? he should have been heavily criticized last year. he totally blew that for lack of a more artful term. what he did do last year, a week later there was an attempt at a horrific rally in boston, and he got it right the second time. but i can t defend his statements, i m not here to do that. i m glad with the tone he struck this morning. you know, everybody is going to choose inartful words from time to time. i was disappointed in his characterization of people involved in the violence last year. what about his conduct overall in the past year, he has been embroiled in several high profile polarizing debates on race relation after taking office, renewing a fight with nfl players for national anthem protests, fighting with other professional athletes, should he
be doing more to bridge the racial divide which is what he appears to be doing with this tweet? well, again i can t sort of step inside the mind of the president. i think he has done some impressive things. i think some of the data african-american real earnings and unemployment at historic lows, latino, et cetera, fly in the face of some of the rhetoric where you hear whatever he said, great people on both sides. i don t know why he has decided to sort of take an issue with the expression of individuals in the nfl. i think that we ve all been blessed to live in a great but flawed nation, certainly disagree with their decisions, but respect them and their right to make their decisions. i m not the president. i can t channel him. i would do a lot of things differently. what we need to do is i think look at outcomes and less at rhetoric and then, ryan, truly focus on those things which unite us while acknowledging things divide us, and listen
respectfully without hate and attacks against people on both sides. shameful and unamerican let s talk about charlottesville, the area you represent in congress. what things are like a year later. have you been in contact with police how they plan to maintain piece on the anniversary, are you satisfied that order will be maintained this time around? look, to be completely honest, i was exceedingly shocked when it devolved into violence it did last year. but i m optimistic we won t have replays. there s all sorts of criticism, and you want to study when things went wrong. i wouldn t lay all the blame the at the feet of law enforcement. there were people setting guidelines how to act and react. having said that, let s look at the root cause, and that s hate mongers and people that want to watch it burn. i don t even want to use names of these individuals publicly
because it throws proverbial gasoline on the flames. the reality is in this countries we have differences and divisions but people that throw newspaper boxes at each other and hit each other with sticks are in such a tiny minority on the fringe on either side that most of us never met them and don t know them, that s because there aren t many of them, praise god. let s not give them a megaphone. this is news that needs to be reported on, but let s not make it more than it should be. it is damaging. we should be able to disagree without being disagreeable. the right group is planning another rally tomorrow, next to the white house. are you concerned about a similar level of violence breaking out tomorrow as counter protesters are expected there as well? well, let me take a brief moment to take exception with their nomenclature, unite the right. national socialism is socialism which isn t right. these people are cowards, they
behind behind park police and law enforcement, they engage in rhetoric that any reasonable person would know would incite fear, anger, animosity on purpose. after the march in may last year, you can tell me this is your first amendment right, but when you carry torches, wearing all white at night next to a confederate statue, we have a failed middle school history or something else. these people are cowards, not indicative of who we are as a nation, should be uniformly condemned. they ll behind and law enforcement will get it right, but shine the light of attention on them. again, news that needs to be reported. almost threatens to give them more oxygen than they re worth. and i do, congressman, while i have you here, would like your reaction to news your fellow colleague chris collins is suspending a re-election campaign. you re also not running for re-election. are you concerned about your fellow republicans in that they
could lose the house of representatives in november? i mean certainly anything is a reality, candidly, ryan, listen to this from people on the right when they talk about how tough president obama was on america and on the left, how horrible president trump is. the reality is this nation has been through horrible things, come out the back end surviving. if the republicans lose majority of the house, america will survive. if they retain it, america will survive. we need to not look at a snapshot in time but continuum of history. i respect chris for his service and his decision and will let the legal process play out which is how it is supposed to work in this country. and before you go, i would like your expertise as member of homeland security and foreign affairs committee. i m sure you ve seen news about a plane stolen and crashed in washington state oervernight. does this display a blind spot in the system and do you think congress should look into this? we will look into it.
let me give you breaking news back to charlottesville. i sat in close session briefing probably two months ago about charlottesville and asked if russian inter meddling had to do with charlottesville. i was told yes, it did. i was asked is this classified, they said no, it is not, i waited until today. this is what happens, russian inter meddling is seeking to pit americans against under americans to undermine confidence in western style democracies, done so in baltic states and western europe. they ll continue to do so. they re trying to make the world safer. oligarchs and people like putin use things like this racial divisive fight which ignores the commonalities we have, regardless of race, ethnicity, religion, this is the sort of thing they do. as a member of homeland security, seriously that s what scares me most.
americans pitted against americans over real differences but that are minimal in the grand scheme of things, that we are an american family of brothers and sisters, regardless of religion, race, et cetera and need to focus on that but with respect. important piece of information at the end there, congressman. so appreciate your perspective on this. thank you for joining us. thank you, ryan. thanks for what you do. still ahead, we re following the latest details out of seattle as federal officials begin investigation into the stolen plane. we re learning two military fighter jets were armed and ready to take that rogue plane down. managing blood sugar is not a marathon. it s a series of smart choices. and when you replace one meal or snack a day with glucerna made with carbsteady to help minimize blood sugar spikes you can really feel it. glucerna. everyday progress. tremfya® is fors caadults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis.
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let s get back to breaking news out of seattle where an airline employee stole a passenger plane, flew it around an hour, doing stunts and talking with the control tower as he flew. this as armed military jets followed behind him. he then crashed the plane in a remote area south of the city killing himself. to talk about this, bring in retired admiral john kirby, analyst and former pentagon press secretary, and peter goals, analyst a. you have talked to your contacts in the military. once the plane was airborne, they scrambled aircraft to go after them. you learned they were armed and learned more information on how they responded. we learned that two f-15 pilots were in radio communication with the
individual that stole the commercial airliner. that s standard procedure to some degree. you want to make sure they know you re there. often times fighter pilots make themselves visibly present, maybe do hand signals. if a situation develops over time like this one, they ll try to get radio communication with the individual. that s remarkable. we heard that audio communication with air traffic control tower. we know he was talking to the f-15 pilots. it is extraordinary. it is quite an advancement since 9/11. we re ready for this kind of thing now. and admiral, when we go back to the idea that this was an armed f-15 jet with potential to knock the plane out of the sky if it came to that, how do they make the decision for that extraordinary step. they didn t in this case, but how does that protocol work? almost immediately there s interagency coordination call done. faa, dod, norad, nor com talking
in real time. if they feel they have to move to that drastic measure, they go to national command authority, secretary of defense and president if necessary to make that call. that said, authority to do a shoot down is delegated to the norad commander, who if he felt it was necessary could have done it. i want to pick up that this is an important mission. operation noble eagle, doing it since 9/11. in 17 years we have been doing this, there are more than 1800 intercepts of nonmilitary aircraft. it is a 24, 7 operation. i agree with peter completely, it shows how effective it is becoming. i want to play some cockpit recording that we have of the man flying the plane, extraordinary conversation. let s listen. let s try to land that airplane safely, not hurt anybody on the ground. all right. damn it. i don t know, man. i don t know. i don t want to. i was kind of hoping that was going to be it, you know?
he s obviously in distress at this point. longer bits of the conversation, it is extraordinary how calm both sides of the conversation are. but peter, is there a mechanism for mental health screenings, is there something in place with the airline? they have protocol for pilots but really other than normal robust employee assistance programs that you find in any industrial setting, there really isn t. i m not sure how you prepare for this. obviously you ask fellow employees to keep an eye out for your friends, for your fellow workers. i m not sure what you do. it is a one off event. the airport will review security procedures, horizon will review its procedures, but i m not sure where you go with this other than we need to pay more
attention to mental health. and this is again an example of something that could have been much worse, turned out not to be a good situation, but can be something to learn from going forward. peter, john kirby, thank you so much. appreciate you being here. president trump on the attack, slamming the fbi and former deputy director andrew mccabe. more on the latest threat from the president when we come back.
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out of seattle, where a man stole an empty plane. the ground service agent crashed and he died in that crash. they just gave an update to reporters. take a listen. what task we will be accomplishing out there. i will be working with horizon maintenance personnel, they have some staff they ve made available. we re going to locate flight data recorders, those are two items of importance now. the ntsb will take custody of those and we ll ship those to washington, d.c. to the recorders lab for readout and that will be our support for the investigation to the fbi.
what do you make of this person doing this? very unusual. it s not like we get this every day. he was able to take the aircraft and get it airborne and we do know he was in communication with air traffic control. i think some of that information has already been out. until the fbi has an opportunity to get a better background on the person, find out what motive they have, it is too early to make determination on what the objective was. what s your understanding of what s left of the aircraft? it is highly fragmented. the wings are off, the fuselage is kind of positioned upside down, but it is fragmented. last night there was a fire. they weren t actually able to
identify everything, it was dark. i think with daylight, the fire is out, we ll be able to identify the parts and pieces of wreckage and focus on areas we re looking for. to your understanding, went down on its own, not brought down by the f-15s? that is correct. as far as i know it went down on its own. actually, i won t be determining that, the safety board is just here to support. the fbi will be looking into that. i m trying to determine why he did this. obviously they ll talk to family and friends and looking at his home, those type of things you would expect an investigation to be done. that s the latest on the information happening. that was an ntsb briefing on the situation with an airline that
was stolen by an airport employee. not a lot of new information. the investigation is on-going. we continue to monitor that situation, we ll give you the latest as it is available. still to come, the president attacking the fbi on the heels of an explosive week of testimony in the paul manafort trial. this as the special counsel investigation now turns its focus on president trump s former associate, roger stone and his inner circle.
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a passenger plane, flew it around for an hour, even doing some stunts. this, while armed military fighter jets followed behind him. the 29-year-old ground service a gent crashed the plane in a wooded area just south of seattle and died in that crash. we re going to have more on the security risks and the chilling audio of what that man told air traffic control. meanwhile, president trump unleashes, again, on the fbi this morning, in fresh attacks questioning the integrity of the agency. and threatened to get inof volv in the effort of text messages of andrew mccabe. in new jersey, near the president s golf resort, where he s on his working vacation. sara, what exactly did the president say? president trump has been active on twitter during his working vacation here in new jersey. and this morning, he s taking aim at a familiar foe, the fbi and its former leader. trump is threatening to get involved in a document dispute
between a conservative group and the justice department. and judicial watch, that group is seeking fbi communications relate to the start of the russia investigation, which is something that congressional republicans are also fighting for. wbr id= wbr32530 /> trump going after mccabe on twitter this morning, saying, why isn t the fbi giving andrew mccabe text messages to judicial watch or appropriate authorities? fbi said they won t give up even one. i may have to get involved. do not destroy. what are they hiding? mccabe s wife took big campaign dollars from hillary people. then he says, will the fbi ever recover its once stellar reputation, so badly damaged by comey, the former fbi director, mccabe, peter s., that s fbi agent peter strzok, and his lover, the lovely lisa page, and other top officials now dismissed or fired? so so many of the great men and wbr id= wbr32912 /> women of the fbi have been hurt by these clowns and losers. we should note the justice department provided thousands of pages of documents to /b>
republicans in congress including those text messages between strzok and the former fbi attorney lisa page. and mccabe has already left the bureau after that sweeping report into his conduct. trump still frustrated with the level of transparency. as the former campaign manager paul manafort stands trial. he s been escalating his attacks on special counsel robert mueller as the manafort trial continues to generate headlines, ryan. sara, is the white house giving you any insight into what exactly the president means with his threat to get potentially involved? what exactly did he do? it s not the first time republicans have come calling on trump, to maybe push the fib to be more compliant with its document request. mark meadows has been instrumental. and chief of staff john kelly brokered some meetings between republicans and the justice department to try to speed this process along. sara westwood, nearby the
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and rebecca horn is germany s gong performance and installation art is famous for her exploration of body extensions and machines and turns seventy five on sunday and take a look back at her. an exhibition that looks at the influence of late pop star michael jackson on art and on other artists has opened in bonn and the bonus points tyler that s hosting it is having to justify the decision to go ahead with it and the show opens just weeks after the h.b.o. documentary leaving neverland made new allegations of jackson s alleged sexual. abuse of children forcing us to consider the king of pop in a new light. who was this man who millions of fans still hail as the king of pop this exhibition portrays michael jackson through the work of more than forty contemporary artists they include some well known works like these portraits by
andy warhol but should the singer still be given center stage in light of the most recent accusations of sexual abuse this exhibition is controversial. we have new developments admission which explores michael jackson as a cultural phenomenon naturally jackson s personality is also included musical ultimately we re showing a media cultural history here but we do take the criticism seriously. there have been previous allegations of child sexual abuse by michael jackson in two thousand and five he faced charges in court but now a new documentary tells the story of two men who allege they were molested by the late pop star jackson died in two thousand and nine so the exhibition in bonn has been slightly modified and the gallery is offering additional information artist paul mccarthy a sculpture portraying jackson and his pet chimpanzee now appears in a somewhat different light as you say really hard because it is a little unsettling to see how the michael jackson figure has a monkey sitting on his lap i mean there is
a relationship depicted and in light of the new allegations this could be seen in a new way. the exhibition organizers did not want to put jackson on a pedestal but they do want to show the huge influence the artist had on an entire generation of fans through his music and his style. so the man who initially curated this portrait collection never considered canceling the exhibition. it probably won t be another figure like tops someone who achieved such worldwide recognition that meant so many different things to so many different people even the way he transformed physically or all of the ongoing. it s about his life and probably the reality is we may never know we may never know the truth musical genius or monster the exhibition michael jackson on the wall polarizes audience is just as much as the one time king of pop did in
his lifetime. and joining me is my colleague scott rockstro thanks for coming in scott this is so interesting because obviously this exhibition was shown first at the national portrait gallery in london last year then went on to paris and that was of course before anyone had ever even seen leaving leaving neverland which premiered just now in january now there is practically no mention no reference to any of these sexual abuse allegations at the time even though they had been around obviously for a very long time as is all this finger pointing at the museum in bonn just a bit misplaced yeah i think so i mean i don t think you can blame the museum that it s opening the u.s. this exhibit now at a time where these new allegations of made public and that s what everyone s talking about and they ve made the argument i think it s a justify one that this isn t an exhibit praising or celebrating michael jackson
and it s not really even about a right it s about his it s not even about his work it s about the sort of impact that he has had that michael jackson s had on pop culture and and that impact of course is undeniable i mean whatever you think about what do you think the man has or hasn t done his impact on our popular culture has been enormous and i think i think it s actually a great thing that the the organizers of this exhibit have said we want to discuss this we want people to think about these new allegations and look at this exhibit. in that light and i do and so we have that discussion as opposed to trying to ban or boycott it you know why has this film had such an impact now it s interesting because the film of finding neverland levy. neverland it doesn t bring up any really new allegations these two men are going public for the first time in this way but it isn t they don t provide any new evidence what they do do and the what the film is very very powerful because of it is it s
a very emotional portrait of these two these two men and the way they expose themselves when they talk about these allegations of being sexually abused by michael jackson when they were children it s very very emotional i think that emotion is what s new about this time and what gives the film so much power makes it so difficult for people to argue against it of course i have to say the jackson family has denied all the allegations and in the process of suing h.b.o. who made the movie so many people are questioning whether they can even be a fan of michael jackson s music anymore you know radio stations are taking his music off the air is this the way to go i mean how do we navigate this as fans and as fans of his cultural legacy yes really the big question is can you separate the our from the artist and i don t i think it s i think it s difficult. i think it s interesting we re having this is the special now and i would never tell anyone you know don t listen to michael jackson music but maybe it s interesting to think of who is the man behind the music who who was the artist that created this ad and
maybe that will impact the way you think about the art itself i think that s an interesting question to to to pose and it s an interesting discussion that should be had we ve seen just quickly we ve seen a real change in the relationship with artists and idols or even our expectations on the recent times what certain kind why that has happened i think it s called the generation but i think it s something that now instead of just will it wanting to look at the art we want to understand and know the artist we want to know what they re eating we want to know what they re doing and we want to their life to be authentic in the collection you know we want to do everything about and we want their own lives to be authentic reflection of their art and i think that s very complicated of course but i think the interesting discussion to have and i think. this exhibit now looking at michael jackson both his life and legacy is quite compelling and i think it s a discussion that maybe it makes it a bit harder to listen to thriller but maybe that s something we should be doing
michael jackson on the wall at the barn and on its way to finland in the summer so we might hear more about this scott roxboro thanks for those insights. as my eyes grew accustomed to the light details of the room within emerged slowly from the mist strange animals statues and gold everywhere the glint of gold and that s how british archaeologist howard carter described his discovery in the tomb of the egyptian king to a time common in november nine hundred twenty two and in the lead up to the cent ten or a of that landmark discovery a traveling exhibition of tots treasures opened saturday in paris. what s on show in paris is quite spectacular the atmosphere calls to mind the silence of the grave and a sense of eternity the treasures of the pharaoh have been carefully arranged in the dark blue room only the audio track of the exhibition disturbs just a bit the eternal rest of to turn common the young pharaoh who was crowned king at
the age of nine and died just ten years later a likeness of tutankhamun on a black panther many of the items are being shown in europe for the very first time . it is an icon for gyptian but also for the whole world view also people who the best known far oh is ninety percent of the time the answer is to come. many other tombs were found and plundered shortly after the reign of the pharaohs and it to tutankhamen s tomb seemed lost for centuries until a young boy happened to stumble over a buried step from there archaeologists dug through to the most famous burial chamber the objects they found there are of breathtaking beauty and precise symmetry they. symbolize the desire for harmony serenity wealth and good fortune now more than three thousand years after they were created they can be admired by millions. rebecca horan is an artist whose hard to define her interests include
fields like alchemy surrealism mechanical invention and much of her art over her long career has focused on the female body and how it can be transformed or her modes of expression are equally varied and her impressive body of work mirrors a life that s divide defined by the creative process best to just let it do its work. rebecca holden gained worldwide recognition with her performance at the documentary a contemporary art exhibition in. life to inanimate objects for her concert for anarchy in one thousand nine hundred she hung a grand piano upside down at the tate gallery in london. work is full of surprises and has won many major awards. was the first woman to receive the prestigious kaiser ring. and in twenty turn she won the premium in periodic.
kiss of rhinoceros was one of her most electrifying works visitors will want to keep the distance to the high voltage involved. film busters bedroom features hollywood star jones dean chaplin an out of control wheelchair. and dancing for it s an all march to silent film legend buster keaton. ninety nine he s work. calorie in berlin involved machines that pumped poisonous mercury across. and through a network of meth through veins. in two thousand and six there was a major retrospective of the artist s works at the martin gropius bow in berlin.
created the installation the universe in a pearl for the show. she calls it a necessary confrontation with life and death. this is an aircraft it s an energy that i have to resolve so i can begin to work on new things so i can free myself up so that i can as the dalai lama puts it so well get back to the holy emptiness so i can then create something new even principle. more than fifty years rebecca horn s works of wonder have taken our fans on an extraordinary journey of discovery. and many happy returns for rebecca horn on her seventy seventh birthday all that brings us to the end of this edition of arts and culture don t forget though that you can find more culture any time on our
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but everyone has a right to. everyone has the right to say. the but. the but. this is the w. s line from berlin back to square one the british prime minister buys more time for brags that theresa may is back in downing street but if she can persuade british lawmakers to pass her deal this time the u.k. will only have a couple more weeks to propose an alternative way forward so that all breaks it
options are wide open while the prime minister s own position grows more perilous also coming up. we of procuring the pocket. book. we brokered. a message to new zealand from a new mom whose mosque was attacked in christ church one week on from the shooting that claimed fifty lives a nation pauses for empathy and unity. and will meet to work the fans from english who are planning a trip to the rugby world cup in japan and get this it promises to be quite a journey especially because it s by bike. thank you so much for your company everyone well we begin this broadcast in the
united kingdom where the race is on for british prime minister theresa may to come up with a way to save her briggs a deal after european union leaders agreed to delay the break that process. but sporting it beyond march twenty ninth all right let s take a look now at the timeline the next state that to bear in mind is march twenty sixth because on that day it s very likely that a vote in the british parliament will take place to approve the word drawl deal that may s government agreed with the e.u. now lawmakers as you might recall have already rejected that deal twice if they were checked again britain will likely crash out of the e.u. and that would happen on april twelfth but the u.k. can also use that time of course to find an alternative solution with the european union if the british parliament approves a deal however the deadline for an orderly brags that will be extended may twenty second donald tosca the u.
council president welcomed the european union s unanimous decision to delay bragg s it take a listen to what he said. drags it the real cause so. much decisions by the e.u. . and the u.k. to delay that cleavage allow for an extension. so i am really happy about this development as i said yesterday it remains that the very proof and the thing that possible. do you. decided to rethink its strategy all is ok to go through fifty which is a priority for the u.k. government. the fate of. so far of british friends all right so much to digest let s go straight to brussels to do you have a correspondent barbara ways or who is standing by barbara last night in the
leaders agreed to extend the deadline beyond march twenty ninth giving the u.k. some breathing space why did it take them so long to reach that decision and are they satisfied with the outcome give us a post-mortem. there is one really simple reason because there are twenty seven so if everybody only gets ten minutes to talk about bracks it and what he thinks about it and how he or she things their country are affected by it then we do the calculation this drags on and then of course somebody says something somebody is sort of gives a. counter speech and says no no let s not do this it s a strategic trap and so on it s of course as soon as they start talking about strategies things get more difficult away ever in general quite united in what they wanted it was just they were just more dates bandied around somebody joked last night one of the diplomats here is at the council and then you find on tinder so
basically they in the end got to they got together and they figured out that this would be a smart solution and today actually everybody was quite content with themselves not only and the americans said yes we avoided this live action we ve given britain a bit of time but they know really need to get their act together we can t do anything if they don t decide and also mundell mcclung the french president he was quite happy and said yes this is what we needed kuna meant unanimity and to act together and not to sort of have the european project taking pasta. by the brits so that is that front has been closed again and everybody goes into the weekend smiling all right while smiling so the ball is back into the court of the u.k. leaders in brussels now i i m expecting are waiting to see what london s next move will be. absolutely and there seems to be a certain amount of movement there and when we think back to last night what happened here at the council was that leaders had to reason may in here for an hour
and a half that s a long time and asked her over and over again what is your plan b. if you parliament rejects the deal again what will you do and she didn t have a single answer which is again then everybody found pretty annoying and so now in london there seems to be a certain amount of movement and everybody here will be quite happy to see that because now there seems to have been an agreement between the opposition and government to hold a series of indicate if next week that means everybody everything every possible solution to correct that is put on the table like would you like with the customs union would you like breaks it was in no way solution would you like bracks it was those of what would you like basically every sort of permutation of correct it is put on the table and this will be voted on and then you quite easily can see where the majority of the house is sort of where it is and what parliamentarians really
want is something trees may should have done in general after she lost the vote first the first time around but now it s at the last moment it seems that some movement begins to happen in london and everybody here is sort of is quite contentious that there is some movement there on the other side of the channel what happens now after the e.u. agreed to put out drags it until at least april twelfth are there contingency plans in place for a no deal crash out of the. everybody of course warns against being over optimistic never says you know we can t believe this will you know turn out well and until we see it here and we sort of have it on paper at the council building in brussels which is going to be a couple of weeks again so contingency plans have been made the european commission has prepared to legislation for planes to keep planes flying to keep the trucks rolling over european highways to keep permits intact and lots and lots all these
many full details of everyday life which sort of really are based on european regulation to keep things moving after it possible heartbreaks it and mario draggy the the president of the u. if the e.c. be the european central bank he criticized some european countries and said they haven t done enough and i m going to america the german chancellor said that doesn t hold true for germany she things german industry is quite well prepared the dutch so they are quite well prepared so basically the country that the countries that will be affected most think they ve done their best by visa reporting from brussels thank you. all right now as we have to stay with some of the other stories making news around the world. north korea has unexpectedly pulled its staff from an inter korean liaison office just six months after was set up well the development is a said back for peace on the peninsula it came just hours after the u.s.
imposed the first new sanctions over the north s weapons program since the collapse of talks last month. the united nations world food program has started early fitting supplies to parts of mozambique that have been cut off by severe flooding all the u.s. says it has delivered aid to some twenty thousand people so far mozambique was hit by one of its worst storms in decades last week. in paris police have banned lead yellow vests protests from taking place on the shelves in these eight on saturday one week after hundreds of anti-government demonstrators rioted a mood of shops on this famous boulevard called the decision comes after french president and many were not calling me the controversial decision to call in the army to curb the violence. back here in germany a police have arrested eleven people in an antiterrorism raid near the city of
frankfurt some two hundred police commandos were dispatched in two areas of the western germany among the nearly a dozen people arrested are three primary suspects a twenty one year old and two thirty one year old brothers well they re accused of planning a terror attack to kill non muslims the three allegedly rented a large vehicle and made contact with arms dealers are at let s get you some more on this developing story we did correspondent a mix of young men who joins me now for more on this story a marks and mark so what more have you learned. well we as we ve just heard we know now that these arrests have taken place today and that the alleged attack was planned to quote kill as many people as possible as prosecutors said today the suspects were allegedly planning a tag including a vehicle and firearms to kill these people as was planned and yes that s as far as
we know all right and do we know how far these suspects were in planning. planning to go in their plot. so what we know so far is that they had already contacted arms dealers to acquire weapons for the attack we already know that they had rented a car for the a planned attack and we know that there would he have the funds to acquire those weapons and pay the car so there was already contact with other funding groups that were helping them in this planning who has been arrested do we know more about the suspects what we know is that there were eleven suspects all in total have been arrested today there were twenty police men involved in the the arrests around the area of frankfurt and that of the. eleven people there ten are currently being very sufficiently being invested and what we know is that these suspects are allegedly salafist so they re part of
a very extreme so not islamist group all right. reporting on that developing story thank you for now we ll bring you of course more details as they come in. next up we shift our attention to new zealand that country has passed today to reflect on the shootings one week ago or two mosques in the city of christchurch fifty people were killed while the riff event has moved the country to unify around its muslim population long long war. the is that long the islamic call to prayer resigning in christ church after that silence falls across new zealand for two minutes the nation mourns and remembers. as many as twenty thousand people have come together at christ church as hagley park opposite the al-noor mosque targeted in friday s attack the
most. calls the country s reaction an example of love and unity to play. the dearest. evo nation. lead. but. we have. new zealand s prime minister wearing a headscarf yet again in a sign of support and quoting islamic scripture where nearly half of the body south as the home body feels prime. new zealand mourns with. one while grief is palpable in christ s church a message of unity prevails. it was good to come to give it to you as one fun night and and all we got to don t know is
a strong. for the muslim family and the muslims. as the government takes steps to prevent charges like this from happening again new zealanders in christchurch and across the country are determined to find a way forward as one community. while women and men in new zealand have been wearing headscarves in a display of solidarity with new zealand s muslim community they haven t called has scar for harmony was organized via social media interviews are full of reporter william glu croft is here with more on that story good to see you well so what s the idea behind this action solidarity unity are the key words here after this this horrific shooting that took place exactly a week ago today so women in new zealand want to show their support for the muslim community set up a facebook page called headscarf for harmony and it was to encourage women around the country muslim or not to were headscarf in support of women of muscle of the
muslim community at that were affected specifically in this attack and how it was done with the consultation of a few muslim groups in new zealand to get their approval they re ok that this was an ok thing to do an ok way to show their support the page has got thousands of response by the thousands women posting selfies of themselves in head scarves as well as reasons why they ve chosen to wear a headscarf on this day in support and we actually have some explanations of a few women why they decided to wear a headscarf or have that here it will be a sign of support to the woman that there s a lot you cannot talk community they are part of a community and i m going forward i think no need to get a lot of support and i can realise that they are in this community all my primary reason was that the. issue anybody else turns up when. i want to stand between him and anybody he might be pointing at it. and i don t
want him to tell the difference because there isn t. wow talk about solidarity there are very a powerful statement made by that woman there was some reaction been like to this to this action of course when it comes to headscarves a bit of a dicey subject because this is by some people seen as a symbol of oppression for for women in the muslim community not having equal rights to men but in the context of this shooting it s being widely embrace and very positively received we ve just seen some we have some reaction online of muslim women responding quite positively we have one on the head scarf or harmony facebook page itself saying can t find enough words to thank you ladies for your support today we really appreciate all what you ve done for us always united and then we have another reaction from this one on twitter with the hit with the hashtag headscarf or harmony to all those who have chosen to wear the headscarf in solidarity today and those who chose to do this in other ways know that you are
legends respect so you see a lot of coming together a lot of unity a lot of solidarity just one more way that people new zealand are showing that they are together they are one after this horrific shooting at this mosque that happened a week ago when we cough thank you so much lately appreciate it. next stop china s president being has ordered an investigation into thursday s massive explosion at a chemical plant in the east of the country well the death toll has now risen to forty seven with more than six hundred injured it s one of china s worst industrial accidents in recent years. this shift force of the explosion that shook the city of yen chang. sent to a chemical plant with a long record of safety violations i think toxic smoke seen from all around. us all the black smoke in my house is windows and doors were all broken.
emergency services worked around the clock to bring the blaze under control and to rescue the injured. while none of them was a member of parliament. this man clearly hurt now safe by morning the devastation all too plain to see several chemical factories once stood here the company at the center of the explosion had already been accused of thirteen health and safety violations including mishandling tanks of toxic benzene it s benzene that s thought to be the source of thursday s explosion but the cause of the blast one of china s worst industrial accidents in recent years is still being investigated.
you re watching the news still to come. on the world of water a day report from a neighborhood in the indian capital delhi we re not a single house has running water the consequences for families living there are dire. but first the tens of thousands of protesters have again gathered in the algerian capital of algiers to step up their call for the immediate resignation of president i ve been seized with a flick called after a month of demonstrations which if they said he would no longer one for a fifth term he has still not stepped down to talk more about this developing story i m now joined here on the set by a reporter who has been tracking very closely this past months the events of turbulent events in algeria good to see you bashir a month on people are still out on the streets algerians are just not buying or beautifully selling well you know it s not really all the announcement of would
speak to him so he was hit by a stroke some six years ago and it s his obscure who by the announcements he s name and who takes the very important decisions in the country and to return to your question for the people it s in the post as of course it s by far not enough that he or his entourage. for the first time because they re calling for a complete change and you know as much for the fist is in the reality. prolongation of the actual time until the new constitution will be approved and that s come last for many years because ok talk to us about that let s continue on that topic because there are also legal challenges not just that people want to see him gone but they re also legal challenges to the fact that he wants to stay on talk to us about that according to the actual constitution but because power. approved twenty eight and after the state he. has no legal means to exult he s the
president and the more but the constitution is in the same time is not valued by the people because it has changed it has been changed by bush because many times in the last years of his reign in order to keep his interests or to exclude potential challenge so you have the protesters were also calling for a transition which is extra constitutional and they want all the people of the figures who are known for their integrity to lead the new transit through vision and do we expect this turns the period to take place or the regime is already preparing for. such a fuss and would freak and his clown in all that to reorganize and have the chance to to stay in power in another form and the people of it and continuing
insisting on their wish to change the whole regime. like the slogan which they re calling during the protests that you cannot build a new ship with old plans so the next two weeks would be very decide as events recede who will win and for sure i m a. reporter who s been tracking this developing story for us very closely thank you so much for the answer greatly appreciate it thank you. now to efforts for getting clean water to people in every corner of the globe today is world water day and the new united nations report shows how vulnerable children are when they don t have access to clean water has more on that ripple effect. in the sight of daily water is delivered twice a day in this neighborhood it s free of charge not one of these tice s has drinking water and that has consequences for these families. because even children cannot go
to school in they want to since media because they had to go and fetch water rather than going to the scoop so the west affected and they were a little bit led to children and do we mean that the lack of access to clean water affects rural populations and refugees worldwide in twenty nine countries across the asia pacific region water resources are scarce plumbing facilities are often missing too there are no public toilet facilities for women in rural india although the government is trying to change that rising water consumption is also an issue. this is new style and just think as it is drinking water is not the only problem water consumption is increasing in general especially due to consumer behavior and eating habits we have are becoming more similar to those in western countries with lots of meat and a very high water footprint the clothes and all the other water intensive goods we consume but also affect the water crisis the have to. the united nations report
calls in the world to recognize that clean drinking water and sanitation are human rights. and next up the twenty nine thousand rugby world cup starts a september in japan but for two avid in england fans a trip to tokyo starts right now there is cycling the whole way and hope to raise money for charity in the process. from london to tokyo as the crow flies it s over nine thousand kilometers but george cullen and ben cook will be on their bikes passing through twenty one countries all for a good cause. i think it s a chance to see the world s first and foremost bike you know you re actually. in a country feeling all the hills meaning all the people so it s for the best way to go and travel. and then raise money as well so i raise money for them i ve been the foundation of the immanence foundation. looking for a thousand pounds if all goes to plan they ll arrive just in time for the rugby
world cup in september in order to make it their travelling light along with this one luxury item. substances pretty simple many things that we need to resupply along the route of freedom water say as long as you know there s two things and should be there e it s not in six months time these two could be cheering on their rugby heroes after the ride of a lifetime. good luck to them and before i let you go remind you of the top stories that we re following for you. this hour british prime minister theresa may has returned from brussels with an extension to the brakes a deadline but the e.u. has made it conditional on the u.k. parliament passing the brig s of divorce deal next week if the deal doesn t pass parliament will take part in a series of so-called indicative votes on the direction regs it should now take the
people of new zealand have cause for two minutes of silence they were commemorating the fifty people who were killed in a mass shooting at two mosques one week ago in the city of christchurch. you re watching need over your news coming up next cindy w. news africa. the humanitarian emergency left by say clone each day in south east africa with thousands still awaiting rescue stay tuned for an update from bahrain the worst affected area in mozambique. and africa is a great green wall a belt of trees planted planted along the side held me just in an admissions project to improve life in some of the continent s degraded landscapes. don t forget you can always get the daily news on the go just download our app from google play or from the apple store that will give you access to all the latest
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