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tell us about these lawsuits whatever you can tell us i terms of evidence, would b really helpful okay, great. >> i can tell you exactly what we have. >> perfect >> and what about the software this dominion software >> that's a little harder. >> seems troubling to tell you right, it's bein analyzed right now i mean, there are a couple o races that have been reverse because the democrat was tripl counted, two already i michigan now whether that applies for the whole state or not, i can' tell you yet >> this dominion software, doe nancy pelosi have an interes in it? >> i've read that. i can't prove that >> can't prove that, that wa rudy giuliani, the face of the big lie.
counted, two already i michigan now whether that applies for the whole state or not, i can' tell you yet >> this dominion software, doe nancy pelosi have an interes in it? >> i've read that. i can't prove that >> can't prove that, that wa rudy giuliani, the face of the big lie. privately downplaying that h knew anything about dominion voting machines. and then there is this conversation, from december 5th, 2020 this is a call between maria bartiromo and trump campaign officials themselves >> or any of the machines, i know it was on war room th other day with steve bannon. have any of the machines bee looked at? he had said that one was looke at in georgia. >> i have to check on that i terms of georgia i know during the audit, the did check on those machines.
they want all of it and then they can do pretty muc whatever they want to do wit it when they don't seem terribl interested in gauche emote alvin bragg over a narrow se of materials this does seem to be the rea purpose here to help the presidents defense that's of course not a permissible purpose. >> that's not what congress is supposed to be doing the zeroing in on carrie dun and ron pomerantz what does it tell you about their interes in cy vance's investigation an the degree to which that may very much be alive issue insid the da's office? >> for one thing pomerantz wrote the book so it would be hard for him to categorically refused to answe questions. he can't say as easily as th district attorney can that i can't talk about any of this because he just wrote a book about. he may also have indicated and this is just speculation fro the fact that bragg did no wait for the subpoena to b enforced but instead affirmatively tried to quash the subpoena that perhaps he knew that pomerantz might show
information from jordan in his committee are designed to ge the prosecution's case file. things that might be oh to the president in discovery and als not on not oden discovery. they want all of it and then they can do pretty muc whatever they want to do wit it when they don't seem terribl interested in gauche emote alvin bragg over a narrow se of materials this does seem to be the rea purpose here to help the presidents defense that's of course not a permissible purpose. >> that's not what congress is supposed to be doing the zeroing in on carrie dun and ron pomerantz what does it tell you about their interes in cy vance's investigation an the degree to which that may very much be alive issue insid the da's office? >> for one thing pomerantz wrote the book so it would be hard for him to categorically refused to answe questions. he can't say as easily as th district attorney can that i can't talk about any of this because he just wrote a book about. he may also have indicated and this is just speculation fro the fact that bragg did no wait for the subpoena to b enforced but instead affirmatively tried to quash the subpoena that perhaps he
publicize themselves i'm actually sharp that he would even do that it is time right now for the supreme court to follow a cour of conduct i can tell you that when i was in congress, it was very clear to us that we could not accept gifts, and at that time, it wa up to $25. i also had an invitation from very good friend of mine to go to her house in the keys, an my staff recommended that don't go this is a long time friend we had done that before. but when i was in congress, did not do that. and i know justice summers knows better, but that deception and hypocrisy's just uncanny. i mean, we are seeing it fro the most extreme radical win of the republican party. we know that there may be some undue influence here and look at what happened, now that we are learning tha verizon and other companie were present as well, who else was there? what do we not know yet? and one other problem that w need to discuss, ayman, it's not just conflict of interes or undue influence, but it's the problem that we have in ou democracy with campaig finance. we need to pass laws tha prevent that type of influence that type of money to intercep in our democracy and our rul of law >> david, as i mentioned earlier, thomas, he didn't disclose up until some point you know, almost 20 years ago, that he was receiving, o received several gifts fro crow, and then it was reported on by the l. a. times and what do you know, lo and behold
publicize themselves i'm actually sharp that he would even do that it is time right now for the supreme court to follow a cour of conduct i can tell you that when i was in congress, it was very clear to us that we could not accept gifts, and at that time, it wa up to $25. i also had an invitation from very good friend of mine to go to her house in the keys, an my staff recommended that don't go this is a long time friend we had done that before. but when i was in congress, did not do that. and i know justice summers knows better, but that deception and hypocrisy's just uncanny. i mean, we are seeing it fro the most extreme radical win of the republican party. we know that there may be some undue influence here and look at what happened, now that we are learning tha verizon and other companie were present as well, who else was there? what do we not know yet? and one other problem that w need to discuss, ayman, it's not just conflict of interes
he's going to need that mone later, on so that he is able t pay his own lawyers. >> remember after january 6t when he raised $250 million fo that election defense fund - >> the trump legal defense fund >> it only went to trump's back >> right, and i think what h has always learned along the way, whether he was on the apprentice, doing trum university, for the presidency is to take pockets of averag people who think he represents something larger in the rubble of lives, when in fact he is just shaking them down day i and day out and has no interes in what they care about or wha their needs really are he' laughing all the way to th bank >> there is somebody -
pitch, is something that benefits him directly. he's going to need that mone later, on so that he is able t pay his own lawyers. >> remember after january 6t when he raised $250 million fo that election defense fund - >> the trump legal defense fund >> it only went to trump's back >> right, and i think what h has always learned along the way, whether he was on the apprentice, doing trum university, for the presidency is to take pockets of averag people who think he represents something larger in the rubble of lives, when in fact he is just shaking them down day i and day out and has no interes in what they care about or wha their needs really are he' laughing all the way to th bank >> there is somebody - he is trying to shake the judge, he is going after the judge' family, but it is the judg himself who would have t recuse himself is there any sign that trump's moves are going to initiat
necessarily on everyda people's radar screen. >> in wisconsin we are used to having some pretty important election so i think people are paying attention you can't really avoided if yo turn on your tv, the advertising is everywhere. i think people are pretty awar that there is national interes in this race and that' probably kept it at the fron of people's minds. but i do think people ar pretty, whether it's abortio or no matter how you feel abou the issue, whether history destructing, or whethe something else, if you conservative wanting to keep i place the policies the republicans have put int effect here in the last te years, i think people ar paying attention whether they like to or not at this point >> you said, it people wil turn on any tv in the state of wisconsin's the first thing yo see. the amount of money poured int this race is astronomical. what could these electio results mean for the future of wisconsin politics >> sure, it's wild it's up to $50 million if no more by the time this election done >> $50 million
change thus far, those maps have been upheld by a number of courts but the policies that are goin to come up in the next ten years, 20 years, it all come down to the control of the state capital. >> do voters there realize how important this races it's not one that is necessarily on everyday people 's radar screen. >> in wisconsin we are used to having some pretty important election so i think people are paying attention you can't really avoided if yo turn on your tv, the advertising is everywhere. i think people are pretty awar that there is national interes in this race and that' probably kept it at the fron of people's minds. but i do think people ar pretty, whether it's abortio or no matter how you feel abou the issue, whether history destructing, or whethe something else, if you conservative wanting to keep i place the policies the republicans have put int effect here in the last te years, i think people ar paying attention whether they like to or not at