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it's the release of the january 6th final, the legislation we've discussed. there's no grave secret. there's no big reveal coming later. you can see in the people, in the rules that we've passed and in the bills that we've scheduled for votes that this is our republican plan, and i'm really proud of it. >> i wanted to get your answers on all of that and i think it's all very interesting and you're open to it coming out. maybe someone has a copy. whether it's the fcc or fbi or in a different party, if they said, take my word for it, you don't have to release it, you'd say no. >> by the way, that's what the fbi tells us all the time. >> the question, is do you sound like the fbi? >> the difference is, i'm describing to you all the elements and features of the deal. >> you're describing your version of it, and i appreciate it. that's why we're having a colloquy as they say in your branch of government. >> i guess if you prefer someone else's version, invite them. >> we want to evidence.
>> cassidy hutchinson is a known liar. there's testimony she's given that directly results in perjury, so i would certainly take exception with her testimony. i do not remember it the same way eric hirschmann does. i did have conversations with him about group of people that could receive pardons, even including some of the people who may have committed a technical violation of law but weren't engage in the violence january 6th. >> so -- >> hold on, now. let me finish here. >> yes, you may finish. >> i had a lot of conversations with mr. mcatee about pardons for lawmakers. whether or not lawmakers fell in those groups were discussed. but in term of was i asking for something specifically for me, the answer is no. >> did you advocate for other lawmakers were mr. mcatee or others? >> there were discussions about president trump, his family members and ally, and presumably
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delaying the proceedings, he then tries to -- now that the referral count ac has been violated, you can jus set it aside it is obviously dishonest an disingenuous - >> and one thing that has been very clear in this chapter o the report, joyce, is that eastman has there is, no reaso for john eastman to peak talking to the president of th united states, to be meeting with various members of th white house legal staff for th vice president to be speakin on the january 6th rally he is not a campaign attorne announcing official sense an he doesn't work in the white house. he is simply essentially, th one lawyer in america who is giving donald trump what h wants, which is some legal pretext for a coup ultimately he is an agent of trump and all of this all as i lays out, what does that mea for trump's culpability legally? >> yeah, so that is exactl right. there is an interesting piec of information earlier in th report chris where the committee nails down
we are beginning our deep dive into the january 6th final report tonight we will look at chapter five a chapter that indicates the e president -- in tandem, essentially a kin of pair, to begin a ridiculous hoopla that all along violated the law. in order to keep donald trum in power against the will of the voters according to the committee, it was a coup in search of th legal theory, the legal theory being divided by - still with me -- federal prosecutor renat mariotti so, i want to talk about the sort of unique role that eastman plays intended wit sean reuben auto there is a remarkable moment that is almost sociopathic honestly, on the sixth it really does re-striking i the report because there are only two people in the entir country aside from participant in the mob who seamen bothered by the mob's actions donald trump and john eastman. john eastman writes an email after the attack, to the general counsel -- greg jacob basically being lik well, the two hour window of t be under the law has bee breached so throughout the law -- had been violated already, b allowing debate beyond two hours -- vice president pence should no longer be concerned that wha
vice president to be speakin on the january 6th rally he is not a campaign attorne announcing official sense an he doesn't work in the white house. he is simply essentially, th one lawyer in america who is giving donald trump what h wants, which is some legal pretext for a coup ultimately he is an agent of trump and all of this all as i lays out, what does that mea for trump's culpability legally? >> yeah, so that is exactl right. there is an interesting piec of information earlier in th report chris where the committee nails down the fact that trump rejects hi campaign lawyers and his norma slate of lawyers because the won't help him with the bi lie. and ultimately, he gives entré
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