one of the architects of obamacare, jonathan gruber. plus, you re the president, but you are turning into a real dictator. if your baby is going to die and it doesn t have to, it shouldn t matter how much money you make. we will ask about the politics of late-night comedy. our power player of the week, up basketball player boun bonds wir sister and brings her to washington d.c. that s all right now on fox news sunday. hello again from fox news in washington. republicans have finally started making progress on their pledge to overhaul the nation s health care system. president trump held a celebration in the rose garden after they passed repeal and they are very mature and know what s going on and know the commitments we ve made to the american people to repeal and replace a failing program in obamacare. i m excited about where were at. the president achieved something no one thought he would. i think we were right to give the congress and at a boy in the rose garden. this is just the beginning before let s talk about the commitment you ve made. during the campaign, the promise president made to voters about obamacare. here it is. i will take care of everybody. i don t care if it cost me votes. everyone will be taking care of much better than their taking care of now. chris: here are some of the features. under obamacare, older people could be charged three times as much as younger people. in the house bill it is five times as much or even more. under obamacare, people with pre-existing conditions couldn t be charged more in the house plan if states opt out, they would have to pay for. that is just in the house bill. what this tells you is when president trump brought several individuals into his office and said fellas let s work it out and make sure this pre-existing condition is taken care of, he made it happen with should show every american how committed he is to making sure if you have a pre-existing condition he is not going to let you down before you are talking about that narrowly. there are arguments against it. we will talk about that in the next segment. the cbo released an analysis of the last bill. let s put the staff on that. by next year they said 14 million people covered under obamacare will lose their insurance. by 2026, 24 million people will. that s not taking care of everybody as promised. we don t buy the cbo score. everyone instantly won t come off of insurance as the cbo score indicates. we will have more options, the pre-existing conditions the high risk pool before the old people will pay five times as much or more. that s the old bill. that s also before the senate takes the bill and makes it even better. the point of all of this, go back to the beginning. if we go back to the beginning we have two options, continue down the road we were on with the failing, collapsing system that most people don t think will work, or start the process with a better system, more choices and options, lower prices, keep your doctor. we started the process and got through the house and it s now off to the senate. we ll get this done. we will repeal and replace and have a better product. before let s talk about another aspect. democrats say the house bill will be a big drag on republicans politically in the 2018 midterms. here is nancy pelosi. you have every position of this bill tattooed on your four head. you will glow-in-the-dark on this one. chris: they are facing angry voters at townhall this weekend. the unofficial bible assessing. [inaudible] shifted its assessment by 20 seats now held by republicans in the favor of democrats. you could lose your house majority over this. these are the same people who said donald trump wouldn t run and he did and he couldn t win the primary or the general and he couldn t get healthcare repeal and replace any got it through the house. look, the fact of the matter is, sometimes in life you have to do what s right, not what is politically expedient. we believe it will be a better product and when people see the premiums are lower and it s better service and more options and choices, they will reward the republicans who stood up and said we will not see the obamacare system continue any longer. we will do something better and do our job as legislators to get this done. i think the republican party will be rewarded. chris: let s turn to another subject. a budget was passed to keep the government funded until october. president trump said it was a big win. democrats say they rolled him and the white house. there is no money for construction of thedp8h border . the bill continues funding for planned parenthood in century city s and you did get more money for defense, you didn t get the big domestic spending cuts you were calling for. didn t they get more out of it than you guys did. i don t think the democrats got anything. let s back up. they lost their parity rule which means for every dollar increase in military you have to have a dollar in domestic. i lost it. that s one of the biggest failures that no one is talking about. they lost on military spending. we get to one of the biggest increases in military spending. number two, for the first time in six years our military will get a raise. we have over a billion dollars to do work on on the border including border walls that will go up where fences exist today. we can buy the property we need to continue the wall moving forward. chris: the president talked about a shutdown in october are they going to be tougher in october. i m not even done yet. they didn t get their csr payment or any money. chris: when you talk about being in the weeds, were in the weeds. right but his agenda moves forward in this budget and he would say. as far as what s coming down the pike in september, we will be ready for the fight and make sure his priorities continue. chris: okay. speaking of the budget and his priorities, the president talks about fighting the opioid drug epidemic. in a new budget proposal, he is gut the white house office of the drugs are. funds for the drug is ours office would be cut 95% eliminating its two major programs. and the acting leader said these cuts are heartbreaking. why, when you say there s an epidemic would you cut the office 95%? first of all, that the leaked document and nothing is final in this debate and discussion in regard to this issue. chris: the leader is taking it pretty seriously. good for him. he should take it seriously. you ve got it all over the place. it s in nhs and secondly, i don t think any president showed more commitment in regard to tackling opioid in the first 100 days. chris: i understand but that s why people are so surprised about the cuts. it s a leaked document, nothings finalize, there s work being done at hhs and d.o.j. judge him by his actions, not leaked documents and hypotheticals, and the actual actions of the president is a total commitment to this epidemic across the country. chris: finally, a new york times had a front-page story yesterday that talks about you and how much you have riding on passing obamacare repeal and replace. i want to put up, i m sure you will love these quotes. you viewed it as a make or break moment. another big loss on healthcare would have been an unrecoverable low to a weekend mr. previous. other than that is this true? know, but remember the last time i was on your show, it was something along the lines that the person that people are pointing to most for the failure of obamacare was reince priebus. i kind of joked at the time, so when it passes in my going to be the one person who gets all the credit? of course not. the president knows that. one person in the west wing among thousands of people doesn t make a difference. this would have never gotten out of the house, he did it and brought people together and was a leadership we haven t had for eight years previously before the new york times accused you of being a nice guy which only in washington would be a character flaw. how deeply. i m a nice guy but i didn t get here by accident. thank you. always good to be here with you. up next to user s guide for repeal and replace. what would it really mean for you and yourt family? d 26 vita. boost® the number one high protein complete nutritional drink. but with my back pain i couldn t sleep or get up in time. then i found aleve pm. the only one to combine a safe sleep aid plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve. and now. i m back! aleve pm for a better am. .studying to be a dentist and she gave me advice. she said dad. . go pro with crest pro-health. 4 out of 5 dentists confirm these crest pro-health products. &help maintain a professional clean. crest pro-health. .really brought my mouth. .to the next level. go pro with crest pro-health calling me an energy farmer. energy lives here. medicaid. what s the problem there. for older americans their health insurance is very expensive. under obamacare that s limited how much they can be charged and by having tax credits that limit the percent of income they have to pay for health insurance as well as expanding medicaid to lower income adults. that goes away under the house alternative. the medicaid expansion goes away. for the poor and elderly they don t have access to health insurance. tax credits become flat and not income based so the elderly have to pay much more for health insurance. you have a system that s not as protective. chris: carl, let s talk about both aspects. democrats are saying there isn t as much protection just shy of medicare and their calling that the age tax and the compromise that the house passed does this, it provides states that set up high risk pools with another $8 billion extra over five years to help people with pre-existing conditions on top of $130 billion to help states with other costs, but democrats say that is still not enough. let s take the 3 - 1 band that causes young people under the affordable care act to subsidize people, older people. it has been expanded 5 - 1. why is that done? older people have healthcare costs that are roughly 4.8 times those of younger people. what we have is a system that if you want to call the tax we are taxing virtually everyone under the age of 50 by causing them to pay more for their premiums to subsidize the coverage of people over the age of 54 or 55 to reduce their premiums despite the fact that the older group has higher incomes, higher wealth and less child-rearing expenses than the people below. before we had the affordable care act, 42 states had set the bandwidth that 5 - 1. three of them had it at a lower level and the rest of them had no standards. the reason was. chris: i got it. now talk about pre-existing conditions because that is the hot button. look, the bottom line, there is a lot of trash being tossed about. there is no change in pre-existing conditions for people in the affordable care act and in states that don t have her waiver. if the state asks for a waiver, it can say if you haven t had continuous coverage or you let it lapse for more than 63 days and you have a pre-existing condition, you get a policy but you could be charged up to 30% more than other people your age for one year as it an incentive for you to stay in continuous coverage for there is $8 billion to pay for people who have extensive illnesses. chris: this is a debate so let me bring professor gruber in. why isn t that enough. well, the most important accomplishment of the affordable care act was ending the ability of insurers to say you can t get insurance or your charged more because you have bad genes. americans don t like it. why would you want to introduce this. it opens the law for states to say just because of the genes you are born with you will pay more for health insurance. the law includes funds from high-risk pool. i call it a high-risk puddle. by all the estimates, these are trivial funds compared to what would be needed to actually pay for it. chris: let s move on. no-no, first of all, it does not change pre-existing conditions for the vast majority of people. if your state waves out, all they can do is charge you 30% more for one year. chris: gentlemen, i ve done this in a presidential debate so i will do it with you guys but i want to move on to another subject and that is medicaid because more than half of the 20 million people who gained coverage under obamacare gained through the expansion of medicaid which allows more over the next ten years by changing it to a fixed block grant two states. carl, why is that good. it focuses medicaid on who it should be focused on, the vulnerable, the disabled and the young. it says two states, you can put in place work requirements of people who are able to get a job in coverage on their own can do so by removing the incentive to stay on the role. yes it cuts the medicaid over the long haul but it increases the money spent on those with ailments and children and those who have children and are single parents. we should focus this program more on the vulnerable and not people based on their income as a disincentive to work. chris: let me brin professor gr. please respond to that and entitlement reform. we been talking about that for years and years. is this entitlement reform. he is absolutely wrong. medicaid does this, two thirds is spent on the elderly and disabled. you can t cut that program by 25% without massively hurting the elderly and disabled in this nation. it s mathematically impossible. you are talking about a program that takes care of our most vulnerable citizens and cutting it by 25%. why? what does this do? this does nothing to fix our healthcare system. all it does is massively cut funds and have a large tax break. if we want to talk entitlement reform that a legitimate discussion but let s have it in the context of reforming entitlement which doesn t harm our citizens, not cutting up program for the vulnerable by 25%. chris: okay, i want to get into one last subject. the goal is to replace obamacare with something different and i think everyone agrees obamacare has serious problems. here is president trump on obamacare after this passage of the house bill. i predicted it a long time ago. i said it s failing. now it s obvious. it s dead. we don t pay lots of ransom money to the insurance companies it would die immediately. chris: here are some steps. premiums under obamacare went up 24% across the country. the average number of insurers in each marketplace has dropped from 5.9 and 2015 to 3.9 now. in iowa, there is only one insurance company left in all but five counties in iowa and they just announced they are thinking of dropping out so there would be only one insurance company. whose fault is the spread before trump was elected there were no counties that didn t have an assure. since he has been elected. chris: wait, you re going to blame the problems of obamacare on trump. we have a situation under obamacare where there was a one time premium freeze last year that made up for the fact that they massively underpriced in the first two years. the problem with fixed is that profits were trending positively and they were saying positive things about the bill succeeding and then you have a president who comes in, undercuts open enrollment, doesn t on of the application and premiums are going up and insurers are exiting. chris: we are running out of time and i m interrupting both of you equally. carl, your thoughts. he blamed it all on the insurers because the government told them to consider that they would get a lot more healthy, younger people than they actually got on any year this programs benefi in effect. trump stopped the ads. the problems of obamacare can be solved with four days worth of tv ads. really? they also said not to enforce the individual mandate and that caused a disruption in the force. obama delayed the mandate for two years and the employer mandate for a year end finally he talked about cost-sharing payments and that cause distress among the insurance companies. they are getting the cost-sharing payments despite the fact that a judge declared them illegal last year. trump said he would pay them until the issue was resolved. last october doctor gruber said the program was working exactly as designed. it was designed with this to pdd of the american people tilt into the calculations but it is a broken system -. chris: okay i have to give doctor gruber the last 32nd. you have a system that was not working perfectly but was very fixable. the question it is working as designed. there s no reason for it to be fixed. no, the law could be improved, but instead of improving it, why do you take steps to undercut it and cause 24 million people to lose health insurance. that s not true. the cbo said people who do not have insurance, that is to say they would not buy insurance. now, 24 muller million americans. [inaudible] chris: thank you. we will continue this debate. affect you, not how well will affect the politicians as it makes its way through the sena senate. plus what would you like to ask about the upcoming battle in the senate. will it ever become law? go to facebook or twitter fox news sunday and we may use your question on the air. luckily there s powerful, 24-hour, non-drowsy claritin. it provides relief of symptoms that can be triggered by over 200 different allergens. live claritin clear. this clean was like pow! everything well? my teeth are glowing. they are so white. step 1 cleans. step 2 whitens. crest [hd]. 6x cleaning , 6x whitening á i would switch to crest [hd] over what i was using before. stay with me, mr. parker. when a critical patient is far from the hospital, the hospital must come to the patient. stay with me, mr. parker. the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time. stay with me, mr. parker. .saving time when it 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back from florida. welcome. one williams, jane harman and newt gingrich. we ask you for questions and it s clear democrats are making headway on the argument that the house bill will hit older americans. susan lloyd farrell said on facebook, these are the days that the elderly need medicare coverage. what will happen to us under the plan. speaker gingrich, said folks over 65 are protected under medicaid, but if you re not that old will you pay more under this new plan. you may pay more but the fact is that obamacare is collapsing. virginia announced a 58% increase. there are no plans left in kentucky, in 94 of the 99 counties in iowa there are no plans left. this is a program to try to get it to survive and offer insurance for everybody. chris: first, your reaction and what is your biggest concern about the house bill. i was in the house when obamacare past. i voted for it. it passed in a totally partyline vote as this version did. we are just trading bad for bad. when we think about american healthcare, not republican or obamacare. my reaction is reince priebus, who did a very good job on your show and paul ryan is over the goal line but it s gonna be a do over and will look anything like the house bill if it even passes. chris: do you agree with the speaker that obamacare is collapsing. i agree there are issues. part of that is the bill that passed congress didn t resemble what we did in committee on a bipartisan basis and we just repeated the same movie by having a bill that didn t go through committee and isn t scored by cbo and came out just as a leadership press release. chris: let s pivot to the politics of all this. there was a good deal of pushback to the optics. look at this picture of the victory celebration in the rose garden. if that wasn t enough, mitch mcconnell announced his working group and if you notice something all of those people have in common it s 13 white m men. what you think of the pushback and concern about that and argument that this will be as big a political burden for republicans in 2018 as it was for democrats lost more than 60 seats in the house in 2010. first of all this whole health insurance issue is not racial. the second thing is all the claims about the political damage that will be incurred by the republicans are premature. we are about a quarter of the way. the senate will not have to pass a bill. then the differences will have to be composed and then the final product will have to go back to the house and the senate. you can make an argument that we are one fifth of the way. what we ultimately see will be quite different. chris: i understand that. but you can t act as if it s already past and making estimates of the number of people who will be hurt by it particularly when the grasp of what s in the bill is te>wñ?ñnut best. this is way too soon. remember, next year, 2018, key midterm elections, nobody will act once you get past the end of this year on such a controversial bill. just think about the advertisements. they will say a republican voted to take 24 million people off health insurance and to increase your, seniors more likely to turn out in midterms, to increase your premiums and cost for health care including prescription drugs. these are devastating ads. it s a little early in the process, but nonetheless, they voted for the bill. it s right in front of us for all of us to see. chris: i want to switch to another political subject and that is we have a french election. they are still voting in france but you ve got the far right wing candidate, maureen le pen against the younger candidate. what is at stake for the united states. it s a very big election. my guess is that macron will survive but le pen will be bigger than ever before and she may well win the next election. i think there is a pattern building. chris: let s assume macron wins or le pen wins. what does that mean. if le pen wins you have the dick decay and unemployment and explanations of violence as usual but the euro survives. if le pen wins you will have friends cutting loose from germany and brussels. i don t think she will win but i think she will get over 40% of the vote. her father got 12% the first time he was on the ballot. it keeps growing and there s a single fact, if you are a french young person, you are three times as likely to be unemployed as if you are a german young person. right at that border, germans are figuring out how to make the economy work in french socialism is collapsing. that won t change in the long run with macron. i agree with new too. fair and balanced, i m saying it here. but a couple more points. unemployment in france is 10%. unemployment in french youth is 23%. staggering. whatever happens it will further isolate angela merke merkel whoa stable moderate voice in europe. in addition, a huge data dump. chris: macron s files were hacked on friday. and it was released just a half hour before the election. we don t know who did this. it could be the russians and they are probably playing in germany and this is really scary for the u.s., to have this kind of meltdown in european politics. it does affect us before we have to take a break. when we come back hillary clinton and james comey, round three. late-night talk shows are experiencing a trumpet bump. are the host crossing the line with their commentary? thanks for loading, sweetie. .oh, burnt-on gravy? .gotta rinse that. nope. no way. nada. really? dish issues? throw it all in. new cascade platinum powers through. even burnt-on gravy. nice. cascade. for my constipation, i switch laxatives.ed stimulant laxatives make your body go by forcefully stimulating the nerves in your colon. miralax is different. it works with the water in your body to hydrate and soften. unblocking your system naturally. miralax. private e-mail server played in the 2016 presidential race. we are back with the panel. britt, how much responsibility do you think james comey bears for clinton s defeat, especially his announcement that he was reopening the investigation 11 days before the election. i think it had a limited effect. i don t take it was a main factor. look at it this way. the case he laid out that he said was not the basis for prosecution could very well have been, as numerous legal authorities have argued about that. it s possible he could ve recommended and indictment which would ve been devastated. he didn t do that. a lot of people think he let her off the hook so you could argue it that way as well. obviously the whole investigation did not help, but whose fault was that. it was the person who had the unauthorized system. that was the original matter and that is what in the end, this was all about. chris: in his congressional testimony comay said he faced to terrible alternatives. speaking can still. speak would be really bad. there is an election in 11 days. concealing in my view would be catastrophic. the argument he makes is if they had not revealed this, if she had been elected president and then it comes out that there is an investigation going on let alone that she had broken the law that would have badly damage the fbi. he had a great chapter in john asked ashford s hospital room when he blocked assigning he thought will s illegal print i thought he was wrong three times last year. the right thing to do was to keep his mouth shut. concealed, no way. what we are talking about was a stash of e-mails on anthony weiner s hard drive which no one had looked at. to imply, which the announcement did imply that there was something bad there and it turned out there wasn t, i think that was unprofessional. chris: okay we have both sides of the argument. let s turn to the politics of late-night comedy. here was steven colbert with his astonishingly crude attack on donald trump. you are the president, but you are turning into a real prick. the only thing your mouth is good for is being vladimir putin. [inaudible] chris: wow. here is jimmy kimmel talking about the terrible news about his newborn son and in the context of the debate this week over obamacare repeal and replace. billy was born with a heart disease, something called tetralogy at below with pulmonary atresia. no parent should have to decide if they can afford to save their child s life. it just shouldn t happen. not here. chris: we should point out that billy, the doctors were able to fix his heart and he will be a healthy little boy. your thoughts about both of those. the second if you show up with the hospital with a brand-new baby and they have a heart problem, the doctors will do whatever they can to save the baby. they don t they will try to save the babies life after you write a check. they will try to save the baby. that s true across the country. the problem you have with humor in america is that hollywood is so enraged that donald trump that they can be funny. all they ve got is pure anger. that s what is coming out the stuff and they think it s funny because the comedian so they exhibit their anger as a pathology on lakeland night television and you should laugh because the comedians. the eight funny because are too angry to be funny. in the case of jimmy, i don t think there s any question that if you re poor in this country your children are at greater risk. & but what were talking about his long term care and well-being of that child. you don t want to be poor in dealing with this healthcare system. trump said australia, scotland, canada has better health systems. i thing it s pretty clear that in this argument the american people clearly believe a child like jimmy kimmel should be able to be guaranteed a healthy life without the parents worrying about insufficient funds before before we get to the other one, your reaction. there are 8000 community health centers. if you re genuinely poor you re on medicaid everywhere in the country. i think it s part of the left s mythology. we do an enormous amount in this country to try to save people. by the way most of people didn t buy obamacare insurance are young people who prefer to pay a tax to buy the insurance so obamacare was not able to coerce them enough to make them by the insurance for that s the largest single block of people who didn t buy the insurance. that s true they were the largest block but don t forget obamacare was performing better than had been predicted even with that but you have republicans who intentionally sabotage, remove subsidies and create the system of collapse and make it implode. then you say the system is not working. i just want to say i think republicans should have been working to create a system that works for the american people, rather than engaging the system of trying to destroy obamacare and obstruct improvement. now democrats should rise above it and do something to improve the current system. this really is the original sin to what republicans say, were to stop this the matter what. now everybody says you should have a right as jimmy kimmel s kid should survive. let s go back to colbert for a second. he spoke in crude terms but the suggestion that the fcc should get involved is ridiculous. when should government be a offensive of comedy. cbs should fire them if they feel there s a problem. big government should not be involved. i think what colbert said was disgusting. if any other comedian says something like that with regard to barack obama, you can bet that the man or woman would be on unemployment. having said that, i don t think he should be fired, i don t think the fcc should get involved and i suspect it won t, what i think should happen is people should be repelled by it and tuning out. that will take care the matter. the important subject on the show is healthcare. both parties are blaming the other party and gaining the 2018 and 2020 election. what about american healthcare. what only think about how to build up a system that takes care of everybody. chris: it s a nice thought but were so far away from that in this country. obamacare past without a single republican vote and this past without a single democratic vote. there s a chance in the senate. if you and i can get along i would love to see any democrat who will stand up tomorrow and say i m willing to work with mitch mcconnell to produce a better bill. chris: think of one thing. it s being sayin said republicae in dire straits. think what would have happened if they failed again. what we now have is a situation in the media where there damned if they do and damned if they don t. it was seven years, 60 votes. inky panel. i ll see you next sunday. up next our power player of the week. a new basketball star in washington on and off the adjus. court. ess so all they feel is love pampers swaddlers of the wnba. the league s most viable player in 2015. olympic gold medalist in rio. her decision this winter to demand to trade from the chicago to the washington mystics even more dramatic. were you willing to sit out a season in order to force a move. i was. chris: league rules make it hard for players to move from one team to another. if you truly want to move you have to put your foot down. i truly felt d.c. was the right place for me and i was willing to do whatever it took to get here. chris: that brings us to her older sister lizzie who was born blind and death and with super evil policy. she s always been my angel, my guiding light, my role model. she has taught me more than any other person in my life and she s never spoken word. host: the sisters can t skype or text which makes long separations intolerable for alina. when i come into a room she grabs my head and pulled me in and just gets my sense and she knows who it is. hopefully that means she has a bright smile, but someday she doesn t. chris: now she is just a short train ride away in delaware. that s only part of her story off the court. in 2008 she contracted lyme disease and it s been a problem on and off over the years. chris: when you have a relapse, how does it feel. what s it like. it s always felt like flulike sensymptoms. fatigue, muscle aches, all great things for a professional athlete before she took me to the practice court to give me some pointers on basketball shooting. i always go to a 90-degree angle and you just lift and flick your riswrist. chris: then she took me to the three-point line which looks a whole lot farther from the basket when you re on the court with a star player. that s when i decided to end the lesson. beyond basketball and family, her other project is her charitable foundation. she is raising money and awareness for lyme disease and families dealing with children who have special needs. it s all part of a remarkable young woman s game plan. i have done something with this limelight and i haven t assaulted all in for myself. i ve always tried to be a voice for my sister and i feel like i m doing that to the best of my ability and will continue to do better and better. chris: this isn t the first time alayna has upended her life to be closer to her sister lizzie.
reagan. the repeal and replace obamacare act. inpenetrable, physical,tall, powerful, beautiful, southern border wall. we will cancel every illegal obama executive order. but though republicans control the white house and both chambers of commerce, they have failed to pass any significant piece of legislation. the obamacare repeal republicans promised for seven years was yanked from the house floor. and the treasury secretary has pushed the deadline for tax reform from the summer to the end of the year. the president s one big accomplishment, the confirmation of supreme court justice neil gorsuch was largely delivered by senate leader mitch mcconnell. in a new nbc news wall street journal poll, confidence has eroded. even on the attributes where he performed best. he s down by seven points since february on being firm and decisive, down six on changing business as usual in washington, that s what we have the white house for. and joining me now, president trump s chief of staff reince priebus. welcome back to the show. thank you for having me. good to have you here. the president did tweet this, on friday, no matter how much i accomplish during the ridiculous standard ohe first 100 days, it has been a lot, including sc, media will kill. and maybe that will be a response to my question here. just before the election, i want to put a he made these legislative promises in the first 100 days, tax reform, offshoring of jobs, infrastructure, school choice, health care, child care, immigration, ethics reform. more funding for the military and dealing with crime and drugs. all of them supposed to be legislative action that was announced, not necessarily the expectation that anybody passed. but only one of those legislative priorities has even come close to a vote. health care. why does he say it is a ridiculous standard and yet promise all this action before leading pundits have said is inexcusable, which is to hold up one nominee after the next to fill secretary positions, wait a second no, no, no. these are nominated. you haven t nominated. you have slowed down. if you had 190 nominations let me finish. i know what the question is, let me finish. even on david shulkin who passed 100 to 0 in the senate, schumer still took up to 30 hours of debate. i ll get to that. we have hundreds of people in the queue. here is what happens when you slow down the nominations. when you slow down a nomination, you can t actually clearomeone for a nomination into the senate. so when you talk about who we have for assistant of secretary at hud or the state department, those people have been chosen. when you choose one of those people, the process is you have to send that person to og clearance, office of government ethics clearance and they have to get an fbi background check. you can t get the clearance for 30 or 40 days after you choose the person. those people are in queue. when they get clearance, they get sent to the senate. we re behind because of unbelievable obstruction from u.s. senators that are acting inappropriately. i don t understand how the democrats have anything to do with who you nominate? the president said, you look at a guy like rex tillerson. the president said the secretary of state has direct authority over the people he chooses to fill the positions within the department of state. if rex tillerson gets picked he gets submitted back in december, he doesn t get confirmed until later in the year or, for example, we have a secretary of commerce that was that was chosen in november, not confirmed until february, that person is going to take the time to choose who his undersecretaries are, those undersecretaries that are chosen need 30 days to go through clearance. i got to move on this is very easy. it doesn t make a lot of sense. how doesn t it make sense? you don t have a nominee you don t have these folks aren t preparing for their own staff to who they re going to decide to bring in office. let me move on here. let me ask you about the government shutwn, run out of money, if a bill isn t passe by the end of the week, your budget director said you want a down payment on the border wall in the government funding bill. if you don t get it, will the president veto the government funding bill? we re already we already have seen progress in regard to getting money for border security within the cr. i m pretty confident we re going to get something that is satisfactory to the president in regard to border security within may not be the wall itself? it will be enough it will be enough in the negotiation for us to move forward with either the construction or the planning or enough for us to move forward through the end of september to get going on the border wall and border security in regard to speaker ryan signed off on this saying it is not going to gum up getting this funding bill done? no. we expect the priorities of the president to be reflective in the cr. so we expect a massive increase in military spending. we expect money for border security in this bill. and it ought to be. because the president went overwhelmingly and are you okay are you okay if the money is not designated specifically for the border wall. if it is zeg zdesignated for bo security. as long as we get moving with an increase in military spending and rebuilding of our military as he promised in one of your bullet points and there is enough as far as flexibility for the border wall and border security, i think we ll be okay with it. we re still negotiating this weekend with the appropriators in the house and the senate. health care, do you have to have a vote this week, are you comfortable if speaker ryan says i need more time to find the votes. i would like to have a vote this week. i think the leadership knows we would like a vote this week. on monday, we re still going to be here working for the american people. whether health care repeal and replace comes on friday or saturday, or on monday, and the grand scheme of things, you know, it is a marathon, not a sprint. we re hopeful for this week. but, again, it is not something that has to happen in order for it to define our success. has the president taken sides in the french election, officially is he unofficially hoping marie le pen gets in the runoff? not at all. he is going to support whoever the winner is, we have a long-term relationship that is historical, with the french people and the french government. and no matter who wins, that relationship is going to continue. he s not his tweet should not be interpreted as him showing preference for le pen? not at all. he may have some opinions as far as who he thinks might win, but certainly doesn t have a preference. and finally, on mar-a-lago other than a right of center person who believes in free markets. can i ask you this? it costs you $200,000 to be a member of mar-a-lago, shouldn t the american people know about anybody that bought a membership to one of those two clubs where they could get access to you when you re with the president on a work trip or the president himself, shouldn t the american people know who those people are, if they bought memberships since the president took office? i don t think it is this is a private business, a private organization, a private club. i don t think that has anything to do somebody decides this is best way to get access to you or the president, there is nothing the american people can do about it. one thing the american people know about president trump is that he is the boss. and, you know, people if you saw in the new york times article today, they listed out 20 different people that have all this access, some folks, president doesn t even talk to. but the president talks to a lot of people. doesn t change his ultimat views. if you go on youtube and look at trade in the 1980s and 1990s, this ishe same person today, he s no different. so while a lot of people like to talk about and argue about who is talking to president trump and who is influencing him to make decisions, it is donald trump. it is his agenda, always his agenda and always will be his agenda. over time, people are going to see he s a guy that will deliver to the american people, putting america first, and making the future better for and across the country. reince priebus, i ll leave it there. a busy week ahead of you. government will stay open? i believe it will. all right. we ll hold you to it. thank you, sir. joining me now is the democratic leader in the house, nancy pelosi of california, leader pelosi, welcome back to meet the press. good morning. my pleasure to be with you, from texas. let me ask you, since you are in a coming from a state that might be impacted by a border wall, is there any scenario that you will support or that democrats will help keep the government open if there is money designated to build the wall? the democrats do not support the wall. and i think the republicans on the border states do not support the wall. the republicans have the votes in the house and the senate. and the white house to keep government open. the burden to keep it open is on the republicans. the wall is in my view immoral, expansive, unwise, and when president says i promised a wall during my campaign, i don t think he said he would pas billions of dollars of cost of the wall on to the taxpayer. let me ask you this, the budget director of the united states said elections have consequences, republicans are in charge. as you just pointed out. there are some democratic spending priorities you want to push for including help make sure that while obama care is still law, it is fully functioning. what is wrong with giving the president his money for a border wall and in exchange for a priority that is not his, keeping obamacare fully functional and funded. as a priority that is important to you. what is wrong with that kind of horse trading in washington? what is wrong with it, that scenario, is the wall. the president talks about how tall it is, who is going to pay for it and all the rest of that. you have to understand this part of the country. there is a community with a border going through it. the president, i think, talking about this wall is expressing a sign of weakness. he s saying i can t control our borters. i have to build a wall. we certainly would like to we as a have a responsibility to control our borders. building a wall is not an answer, not here, or any place. let me move on to the state of the democratic party now. i think there is obviously depends on where you sit on the georgia result, on whether it is a good thing or bad thing for the party, but let me ask you this. is the energy inside the democratic party a bit overstated if john gets the same number that hillary clinton got in that district? not at all. hillary clinton is a famous person, running for president of the united states in a high profile election. john is running in an off year elecon. low turnout and the rest. the enthusiasm for him, young man, georgetown, 2009, very proud of that, and really just someone who has attracted personally such support. he made a remarkable showing. it is about him and the commitment he has made to the people of that district. let me ask you what should unify the democratic party? what should make somebody a democrat and not a democrat? i ask it in this way. there has been a lot of back and forth, especially among abortion right activists about a decision of the democratic party to support a candidate for mayor in omaha, a democrat, who happens to be pro life. and there are some that, at some point, the democratic national committee chairman actually had to put out the following statement, after three days of back and forth, he said, i fundamentally disagree with heath mellow s personal beliefs about women s reproductive health. it is a promising step that the candidate now shares the democratic party s position on women s fundamental rights. each candidate should do the same because every woman should be able to make her own health choices, period. why don t you interview tom perez. can you be a democrat and the support of the democratic party if you re pro-life? of course. i have served many years in congress with members who have not shared my very positive, my family would say, aggressive position on promoting a woman s right to choose. but what you asked the first part of the question before you went off was about what unifies democrats. and what unifies people say all the time, you do such a good job unifying the house democrats. i say, i don t. our values unify us. we are unified with our commitment to america s working families. job creation, about budget policies that invest in the future. good paying jobs. and that s what we would like to see a debat on, vis-a-vis the president of the united states. he promised jobs. show us the jobs. where is his infrastructure bill? there are many promises made, promises broken, and here is the thing, where is the infrastructure bill. president was supposed to have a strong infrastructure bill coming up. infrastructure bill is one of the biggest secrets in washington, d.c. second only to the president s not showing us his tax returns. we need to see those so we can see how his tax policy will affect his own tax situation. we need to see them, so we can see what is the hold that the russians have on him politically, financially, and personally. let me this is about this is about job creation, job creation for the middle class, and working families who aspire to it, that s what unifies democrats. very quickly, i want to show two clips of tv ads that were run against democrats in georgia and montana. take a look. nancy pelosi s liberal agenda put america $20 trillion in debt and jon ossoff is on her side. rob quist talks folksy, but his record is more nancy pelosi than montana. can you trust quist and pelosi with your money? are you at all concerned that you could play an outsized role, that if you re more unpopular in a specific district you could contribute to the loss of a democrat? well, when republicans put forth these ads it shows the bankruptcy of their own initiatives. they should be voters in their district want to know what they are going to do for them. but since you brought item, a u i m glad you did, i think it is important for voters to know who the candidates will be voting with. will they be voting with paul ryan who wants to eliminate the guarantee of medicare? who has voted to privatize social security who is there to dismantle medicaid? and so it is not a question of the person, just as it isn t about the president. it is a question of the policy. so if you want to vote for someone like paul ryan, for speaker, and that is a vote to dismantle medicaid, a vote to eliminate the guarantee of medicare, medicare is a guarantee. you take away the guarantee, you eliminate medicare as we know it. and to move on to private by the way, that those views are shared by the president s appointees to his cabinet. i will leave it there. i have more questions, but never enough time. i appreciate you coming on and sharing your views, coming from texas. thank you. thank you. coming up, russia, syria, north korea and elections in france. how is president trump doing on foreign policy? 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i think, look, for one thing, we all love politics, we focus on it every day. so we re watching literally every day he is up, down, on the side. we re seeing lots of trends. i think it s fair to say of those that support the president, they re event horizon is longer, they re taking the long view. i didn t find the poll today to be that dramatic. i kind of thought after the first 100 days he had, not so bad. the big thing was in the tape opening the show. neil gorsuch worked brilliantly, went straight through. implications for a generation. big win. failure legislatively of the health care, obama care replacement. a bit disastrous. now i think what is most threatening at the end of 100 days is the sense of confusion. is the white house talking to congress? is there a tax bill being put together. a sense of wow, what is going on here. i was shocked by those numbers. you look at these unprecedented numbers in a honeymoon period, there is time to recover, but historically no, we don t have their numbers getting better after the honey moon period. majority of americans don t think he s accomplished very much. 44% polarity think that he is less effective than other presidents, and you have a real erosion of his brand, some of his brand and decisiveness and strength. all of those numbers are down, chuck, and if i m the white house, i m looking and i m shocked. and the 25% honesty number, we have never seen that before. let me point to something that you eded to here, paul cain, you will enjoy this. he writes this about the idea of what issue. the model of strategic chaos, worked well in the campaign, but in government it doesn t work. there is a good chance that the week ahead becomes a lot of sound and theory. but not much productivity. that is the issue, and bob can speak to it better than i can, but is he talking to congress? do they have a legislative path out there? it is kind of shocking, but nothing is shocking any more that on friday he says a big tax reform deal, and according to reports surprised even people in the administration. that gets me back to the 100 days of the obama administration or frankly any administration. they say don t hold us to this stupid standard. these 100 days. count it as another flip-flop, but it is ridiculous standard. too bad for him he embraced it all through the campaign up until and including when neil gorsuch was sworn in and he said this was in 100 days. they re all grumbling. they re trying to move on taxes, health care, and trying to keep the government funded. on health care the white house is negotiating with the hardline freedom caucus. on tax reform, they re probably just looking at tax cuts. and government funding, that alone is a major issue for this coming week. peggy, let s say i heard flexible in reince. he was very careful what he said about the border wall. border security. it was clear to me he would never say the word wall. they don t want to add to their problems in the government shut down. it would make no sense for anybody. i don t think that will happen. can i say however that part of the context here, you mentioned it is extraordinary that mr. trump has these numbers in these honeymoon, i don t think he ever had a honeymoon. this was brace yourself. it was nutty from the beginning. and it is a most historical moment and i will just say it doesn t compare well poll wise with other previous moments, that s all i will say. i think that is fair, but we re in a unique unpopular president. he has not been helping and expanding his base. his base is sticking with him, but we agree that he needs to expand that. okay, we will pause the conversation, we have a lot to get to. we ll get to it after the break. when we come back, the president s record on foreign policy and we ll speak with senator marco rubio on that in florida. foreign foreign policy and we ll speak with yeah, at first i thought it was just the stress of moving. 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who set it up? the miami herald said you were involved in setting it up. you since denied it. no, you ll have to ask the white house if there was even a white house, and the former presidents. one who is now is sitting senator. i met with foreign heads of state in my travel abroad. i m not sure what the big deal was. you ll have to ask them. i didn t even know they were in florida. is it something the u.s. government should play a role in deciding whether or not this deal is approved or not in colomb colombia? no, that belongs to the vote in columbia. they have elections in that country and it was accountable to those people there. that s not our issue. what part of it are we being asked to pay for. i have concerns about us, american funds winding up in the hands of farc or former farc officials. i have concerns about farc officials becoming members of congress. those are the things i care about. but ultimately our relationship with colombia is an important one, one i strongly and will continue to strongly support. it is a democracy. their leaders make decisions. that s an internal matter for them. i want to move on here. i want to curious, your colleague, democratic colleague, on the intelligence committee, mark warner, said this earlier this week of trump s foreign policy. in beijing, moscow, tehran, they are recalibrating their strategies, they don t have any idea how trump will respond. that might be great in the short-term. but it is not really a long-term strategy for asserting leadership in a world desperate for american leadership. do find anything to disagree with senator warner on that? well, i disagree in the sense that i guess from that statement it implies there isn t going to be a long-term strategy. i know there is and they re working on it and they have great people working on it. the national security council is going back to the appropriate role, like an internal think tank that designs big strategyive objectives. friday i had a conversation with the folks at the security council about the western hemisphere and their strategy toward it. we had a lot of debates over the last few years about tactics. what is important to understand is you need a strategy and tactics should be driven by the strategy. and i know they re working through it. and i do not anticipate that a year from now, you re going to be able to state same thing and if we are, that will be obviously opportune for criticism. i don t think that s where we re going to be. on this reversal on whether it is nato, the issue of currency manipulation, decision to strike syria, these reversals are in some ways probably comforting to you, on the specifics. but how do you know he won t reverse himself again. if do you just take more comfort in the fact he s coming to the status quo, or are you concerned he could flip again? i said this during the campaign. i think when you re running for president, someone who never held elected office, there is one set of things you may view the world through, the lens you may view the world through. you get elected and get good people and those people bring you the facts, here is what is going on, here are the options, here is what happens if you did this, when you do that. that reality begins to assert itself and you have to react to that you re the president. no longer a candidate, not a pundit, you have to make decisions that have real impact and consequence. i think that s what you re seeing here. you think moving away from the isolationist rhetoric and tendencies as a candidate. i think he s dealing with the reality of our options oftentimes on foreign policy are not a choice between a good one and bad one. you re trying to figure out which is the least harmful of the two. i think that s something we should be encouraged by. not something we should be critical of. this whole flip-flop thing is a political thing, something people use in campaigns. in every other aspect of our life, people change their minds or make different decisions when presented with a set of facts that are different from what they thought. why should that not be the case, especially for something as important as the presidency. does that mean you ll never run a flip-flop ad against an opponent never again? i didn t hear i m half teasing, but if you re saying you ll never use flip-flopping to attack an opponent again. depends on the opponent. fair enough. let me ask about the french elections. it appears that both president trump and former president obama have expressed a preference unofficially if you will. you talked about, look, you re a senator, you meet with foreign leaders, you have an opinion. is there a point that goes too far? i haven t heard the president express a preference. i heard the belief that the terrorists attacks may help a particular candidate. the people of france will decide it. i doubt whether my opinion or the president s opinion or the former president s opinion is going to have an influence over how they vote. there will be a runoff and a runoff between two candidates, looks like, very different points of view, and then the french people wi make a decision and we ll need to react to that one way or the other in terms of how it impacts our relationship with them. but i m not sure that the views of an american policymaker will have much sway. you re the chairman of the intelligence committee, richard burr said there is a lot of evident that the russians are playing a role in the french election, in the same way they did in the u.s. election. are you investigating that as well in the intelligence committee, this overall role that the russians are trying to do in western democracies beyond the united states? i think there is plenty of open source reporting to reach that conclusion and the french will tell you that. i was in france two months ago and they said they re involved particularly in undermining macron, the independent candidate running there. and they re trying to prop up le pen. that is open source as well. taking out massive loans to fund her campaign and political operations. as far as the general behavior of the russians, sure, that s something we re focused on in both foreign relations and in the intelligence committee on an ongoing basis. that s not new. that s always. let me say that i don t think i had any doubt that the active measures have existed for a long period of time. they have been weaponized to a greater extent over the last two or three years because of the ability to use the internet and fake media. multiple committees are looking at that. marco rubio, would love to have gotten to more, but time is of the essence. i appreciate you coming on and sharing your views. thanks. good to talk to you. coming up, you ve probably seen this picture of the new england patriots at the white house this week. a lot was made over who wasn t there, including a number of african-american players. how fans of different sports view president trump. and this question, in which of these two places are you most likely to find trump supporters? 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(vo) and now try new beneful grain free, simply made with wholesome ingredients, and no grain. fans who are most opposed to president trump s travel ban. by the way, nascar fans are the most in favor. so what does your fan dom say about your politics? if you re a basketball fan, chances are you are a democrat, more likely to live in a major urban or suburban center. nascar fan, probably part of president trump s base? more likely to be or live in rural, southern or conservative america. and most surprising, it is football. it has the broadest fan base and looks the most like america now. it is slightly leans democratic, which may make some sense given hillary clinton slightly won the popular vote. all of it is great news for political reporters. why? especially if you re a football fan. the best way to measure president trump s support this fall, may just simply be to show up at football stadiums. you know that that means? we ll be taking meet the press to lambeau. little frozen tundra action. when we come back, what is more important to democrats, economic justice or abortion rights? it is actually a big fight inside the party now. and good old bernie sanders is right in the middle of it. welcome to holiday inn! whether for big meetings or little getaways, there are always smiles ahead at holiday inn. new republic, why bernie sanders tour failed. why is the chairman of the democratic party appearing with somebody who is not a democrat? well, because they share a lot of the democrat? because they share the same ideals and values. there is disconconnect of what you will see between the grass roots uprising and the energy on the left, and you know, p.p. put out a poll this week showing an 11-point enthusiasm for the democrats, but there is a disconnect, and the democratic party, and the dnc in particular has to work hard to reach out and bring in some of the younger voters and not necessarily democratic voters, but obama voters and bring them back n and it is not an easy job. and they are fighting over the omaha mayor. tom perez spent his entire week having to backtrack on it. you heard nancy pelosi, no, no, no, we welcome pro-life democrats. tom perez takes the position that is something close to a purity test or litmus test saying if you want to be a democrat you have to hold these pro-choice views. nancy pelosi didn t go there. democrats have to work out these politics for themselves. they re going through something the republicans have gone through and arguably are still going through where you have the grassroots, all the energy is on the far left, just as on the right the energy s on the far right. but are you going to win elections like that? that s the big question. there s donor/voter split, too, peggy. it is the real story. i mean, if i can put it this way, those who profit from abortion or health services, women s health services, however you put it, they give a lot of money to the democratic party. democratic party should say thank you very much, but you know what, we re going back to be a big tent party, broad on social issues like this. we are declaring to with your heart, if you truly feel that you can be that you are pro-life, you want to be pro-life and a democrat, go for it. the democratic party has i think been hurt very badly in terms of its national reputation with this narrow sort of you can t be in our party if you don t hold the right views on abortion. it would be a brilliant political move if they opened up. the challenge for the democrats, and i saw this up close when i was in atlanta this week covering the special house election, is how to win over suburban voters, some of these moderate republicans and inpendents in places like chamblee, georgia, where there are young professional going to starbucks, young parents and they re maybe skittish about president trump. at the same time, though, if the democrats want to win over and win back wisconsin, pennsylvania, michigan, they need that bernie sanders populism energy. so it is a balance a hehead in 2018, the suburban outreach versus the populist pitch. southern suburbia is the battleground for american politics in 2018. it is, and the democrats really quickly, in 2006 when we had a sea change election, we had a lot of pro-choice democrats. you mean pro-life. pro-life democrats. that s going this is an absurd argument for the democratic party to be having now. if democrats are going to have success in these districts where you have, you know, an affluent, college-educated white group of voters, because those are the voirts quite frankly, hillary did better among them and donald trump did worse. if you look at kansas and georgia, there s a double-digit swing and from republican to democrat. now, there s still republican districts and i think we ll do well in georgia, but this ten-point swing should be really troubling going into the midterm. we saw in 2010 there were a lot of fights inside the republican party on purity, and while there were fights inside the republican party, it didn t take away from the bigger win, and maybe that s what democrats end up with, they all have a fight and win. i just think it s better for the country when each party looks like it stands for something serious for some big things but they re not narrow and they re not bought. i agree. please, can someone speak up for the radical middle here? i think it s great if we have competitive districts that could swing back via election. swing voters, you want them back? i want them back. when the republicans won all these state legislatures in 2010 they lost a lot of their farm team. looking ahead, who are the candidates? where is the recruitment? if you shut the door, then you limit maybe people who want to come and run. and the gerrymander conversation. we will talk to dr. mander at some point. we re back in 45 seconds with end game and the o reilly factor . what does the departure of bill o reilly and roger ails mean for the conservative movement going forward? what would help is simply being able to recognize a fair price. truecar has pricing data on every make and model, so all you have to do is search for the car you want, there it is. now you re an expert in less than a minute. this is truecar. at angie s list, we believe there are certain things you can count on, like what goes down doesn t always come back up. [ toilet flushes ] so when you need a plumber, you can count on us to help you find the right person for the job. discover all the ways we can help at angie s list. because your home is where our heart is. think sexual harassment took it right on the chin with the fall of bill o reilly and i m happy about it. there are some that say that all that money means he didn t pay a price. you mean the money he got the payout. the golden chute for it. if you are against sexual harassment, you have to take your victories where you can. i ll quote peggy too. she said pigishness is not conservative. we have to get past where being against sexual harassment is somehow part of the political correctness some partisan category. can we just be against it? i think to quote peggy again, i think that s what the victory was this week. you cannot, though, not look at what s going on over at fox and say, look, bill o reilly and roger ailes, jim pinkerton writes a provocative article at breitbart. he essentially said they understand how to talk to the trump voter before trump figured it out and now they re not there. when you look at barry goldwater and so many conservatives coming up with ronald reagan in the 60s, 70 80s, the republican party, conservatives were ideological. it s become in many parts because of fox news a grievance politics oriented movement, more about political correctness railing against the media than any kind of ideology, and that s where the republican party has found its trouble in recent years. it doesn t have this cohesive ideology anymore. and the question is will that be there anymore. i wish we had more time, but we don t. sorry. before we go, you ll get it on twitter, i promise, we d like to mention that new york women in communications are going to honor my pal over here, savannah guthrie, tomorrow weather the matrix award. thank you. other winners have included meryl streep and gwen ifill. congratulations. thank you. that s all we have for today. we ll be back next week. thanks for coming in. if it s sunday, it s meet the press. you can see more end game
likely the influence of the new chief of staff here, retired general john kelly who has been clear, trying to send a signal there is a new sheriff in town. that he s not going to tolerate discord and some of these tweets that are off message. but will we see this over the course of time? that remains to be seen. we ve had sort of the pockets of the president being very restrained when it comes to his messaging. i think when it comes to the relationship on capitol hill and this next battle that you talk about, the challenges, not only do you have republicans, conservatives like jeff flake speaking out, obviously he s been critical of candidate trump all the way back to the campaign trail, but republicans just don t seem that afraid of him. that s why you have lisa murkowski saying i m going to vote against you in the health care fight. how does he get republicans on board to get tax reform done? the reality may be that they re looking at tax cuts, because they don t have that big, broad support and they didn t get health care reform passed. very quickly, i m curious, was there any chatter, you know, off camera or any chatter that hey, this president plans to make jeff flake pay a political price in 2018? any of that chatter today? i think there s not that chatter today. there was more of a dismissing jeff flake today say thing is someone who has always been critical of the president. we re not going to worry about him. but more broadly, that s the direction the president could go in as we get closer to 2018, not just against jeff flake but others who have been critical from him. the lack of response from him, that is very mature way to respond. so kasie, you talked to any member you could find today, none of them willing to back up jeff flake. is he a man on an island, or a man on a public island, but if there were a private island, he would have a lot of company? i think he has a lot of company on his private island, but nobody wants to be seen showing up by private plane on the island. i spoke to a number of republicans today. you saw there john cornyn responding hey, are you afraid of president trump? they all insist that they re not, but there is this pervasive fear of president trump. i think that s driving a lot of these dynamics. look at the actual on paper progress that this congress has made on behalf of president trump. they re ignoring his plea to take up health care again. mit and they re ignoring his frustration with jeff flake. we have a new statement tonight that unequivocally says the nrsc supporting senator flake, as we do all of our incumbent members. so they re still standing by him. i know you just caught up with him. tell me about the quick interview you just had with jeff flake. so i talked to him about this. one thing i will say, chuck, to what kristen was saying about the white house not responding, this has been a long-time critic, senator flake has been a little taken aback by the level of focus on what he had to say. i think he s been a little bit he s not said used the same strong words that he used in the op-ed in the book on camera necessarily. but he did have one noteworthy statement. talking about populism and the president s impact on the country. take a look. populism is you can win elections with it. it s popular, it s populism. but it s not a governing philosophy. it s kind of a sugar high. and if you continue in that vein, we ll lose elections. reporter: i think it s noteworthy that i didn t use the word populism in a question, he brought that up on his own by himself. look, i think flake also is confident that mcconnell will stand by him. he said hey, look, i have one tough re-elections in arizona before. thank you both. and kristen, give a special shutout to dennis gaffney. i think this is his last live shot on our show today. it is indeed, chuck. we just had some cupcakes, toasting him for an incredible legacy. he did plenty of my live shots and made me look less ugly than normal. makes us all look good, that s for sure. he s smiling from ear to ear right now. thank you both. let me bring in my panel. welcome all. this feels like we are the canary in the coal mine with jeff flake. we criticize politicians all the time for not taking a risk. he s doing this, arizona. he s putting his political career on the line with his criticism. no one can say he s not doing that. i believe that. i believe he saw something in the tea leaves three or four months ago when he started writing the book, which that trump has hated him since the fall of 2015. they had a confrontation in a meeting and flake told him his behavior was appalling, and trump said i really hope you lose. and flake said i m not up next year. and there are noises about some of them primarying him in arizona, and whether flake would find himself in the race of his life and trump would be winking and nodding for people to vote for his opponent. he may think he has nothing to lose. but having said this, this was an extraordinary thing he did, and he is reflecting opinion inside the republican party about opinions expressed freely during 2016. trump has brought the same spirit from the campaign to the presidency, and as haste week s hijinks with anthony scaramucci indicate, that is a terrifying thing for anybody who wants the country to be managed effectively. not just scaramucci, but the failure to pass a health care bill, which is a sign of not only his weakness, the president s weakness. he can t scare murkowski, collins and mccain for voting for the health care bill, he s not it s not that he s a lame duck. he s pretty lame for somebody only seven months into office. that s a bunch of other quotes here and in some ways he blames the voice. we ve given into politics of anger. these are the spasms of a dying party. anger and resentment and blaming groups of our people might work in the short term, but it s a dangerous impulse in a pluralistic society. the state of arizona gave us joe arpaio. the republican party there has always been schizophrenic, it s given us john mccain and jeff flake, and then back in the day evan meekum. he really is putting himself and this issue front and center. we re one of the last states to recognize the king holiday. the reality is, you have to ask yourself what was donald trump s crime in the minds of republican elites. jeff flake has voted 95.5% with donald trump. the predictive score is he would have voted with trump about 61% of the time. so this is not a difference in content or what they want to do. it is really to me about the gap between the text and the s subtext. if donald trump committed a crime among republican elites, he made the long-term subtext if you ve been listening to right wing talkradio, the same anger and rage and anger at the changes in the country, the same sort of, you know, sometime vulgarity existed. it s just that elites in the republican party didn t accept that as the way to market the party to the world. donald trump recognized better than they did that he could simply identify with the text of what people were saying on talkradio or listening to when they heard rush limbaugh, the anger and rage they felt all the time, the political correctness and the i can t say these things, trump said yes, you can, or i can say them for you. all trump did is take a lot of the anger already there. trump is just making it open and obvious, and the republican elites can t stand it. they want to get rid of medicaid. trump s instinct is to say that s mean. trump knows more about the republican base than jeff flake does. she brought up an interesting point. how does jeff flake square voting with him? what is that line it s clear jeff flake s problem is more in character than anything else. jeff flake is essentially doing what donald trump is doing, except in reverse, which is making a statement about what he sees the values and the tone of the republican party should be. donald trump has a tone that he thinks should be the tone of the republican party. jeff flake, he reminded me of mitt romney. ever use the phrase compassionate conservative? when mitch mcconnell brings forward a bill, of course jeff flake is going to vote for that. donald trump has no policy ideology. he doesn t have any policies he wants to advance. he was brazen and bold saying i don t think people care about policy on the campaign trail. so yes, jeff flake is going to vote with the policies. jeff flake is a conventional republican conservative. donald trump is an unconventional, non-republican, non-conservative. and most of the base of the republican party agreed with donald trump. and they also agree with jeff flake. they like trump, they have no trouble with flake s voting record or no problem with the way flake views things. how does this play out? it s about character and behavior. if that mattered, donald trump would not have been the nominee of the republican party. he ran against the tin dolls of the beltway media. he ran against marco rubio you said trump is nice on medicaid. no, no, i said he understands the base of your party better than the e heat lites do. it s not my party. the elites of the republican party thinks that the base agrees on eviscerating medicaid. donald trump understands the base of the party is fine with big government, as long as they re the beneficiaries. [ overlapping speakers ] donald trump gets them and the elites of the republican party don t. this makes very clear that jeff flake does not agree with donald trump that donald trump is someone to be feared in 2018. all right. we ll pause the conversation. coming up, can john kelly bring some much-needed direction to the white house? i ll talk to someone who has been in kelly s shoes. former clinton chief of staff william panetta joins me just ahead. only had me by one grade. we bought our first home together in 2010. his family had used another insurance product but i was like well i ve had usaa for a while, why don t we call and check the rates? it was an instant savings and i should ve changed a long time ago. there s no point in looking elsewhere really. we re the tenneys and we re usaa members for life. usaa. get your insurance quote today. ykeep you sidelined.ng that s why you drink ensure. with 9 grams of protein and 26 vitamins and minerals. for the strength and energy to get back to doing. .what you love. ensure. always be you. as the acting director in the interim. so now he ll be sworn in, presumably in the next 24 hours. this is the first time any fbi director is getting more than one no vote, there is three of them. the entire state of oregon is a no on wray. looking fabulous in my little black dress? 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well, it s very important that first and foremost that john kelly and the president understand each other in what needs to be done. and that the president is willing to delegate that authority to his new chief of staff. that has to take place. bill clinton understood the problems that were in the white house. he was willing to delegate authority to me as chief of staff, to be able to reorganize the white house and develop the kind of chain of command. that was important there. so the most important ingredient is to have a president who is willing not only to give you the authority you need, but is willing to back you up and to trust you in that process. that s going to be fundamental to john kelly s ability to be able to get his job done. you don t have just a unique insight of the job. john kelly, i believe he was one of your chief military aides during part of your tenure at the pentagon. what is a skillset that he has that you wish you had going into being chief of staff? well, i do know john. he was my military aide when i was secretary of the department of defense. he s a tough marine. he understands what discipline is all about. he understands what a strong chain of command is all about. he understands what an orderly process is all about. he understands that you have to stay focused on accomplishing the mission. those are all important ingredients that go to his experience as a marine. those are good qualities. i think the important thing he s going to have to pick up on is the politics of operating within the white house. the politics of understanding where the staff is, what the relationships are, and also the politics of dealing with capitol hill. because in the end, if this president is going to survive, it isn t just have just to change your chief of staff. you have to get some things done for the country and the chief of staff is going to be very important to whether or not that happens. before i let you go, there are two developments on the international front that i want to get you take on. secretary tillerson made sort of the most remarks he s made yet about north korea and he said the following in a briefing to reporters. he said he wants a dialogue with north korea, he doesn t want regime change. he said we are not the enemy, but they are threatening us. we re not asking for reunification of the peninsula. he s trying to send a message they want to talk, negotiate. does et seem to be a contradiction of where we were headed before? frankly, i am confused to what is our policy when it comes to north korea and that leadership. well, that s the first thing that i think the administration has to focus on is one of the things that john kelly and general mcmaster are going to have to focus on is what is the strategy here? obviously, there has to be containment. obviously, we have to be tough in terms of our military presence. obviously, we have to be tough in terms of making clear that the north koreans cannot develop an intercontinental ballistic missile that could threaten our country, and we have to take strong steps to deal with that. but at the same time, we have to reach out diplomatically to see whether there is an opportunity to engage in negotiations. but it s going to take both efforts. you need a strong military effort. you need a strong diplomatic effort. if there s going to be any hope of dealing with north korea. and there s been some reports, there was washington post report and no final decision, but the state department is thinking about editing the mission statement that would eliminate of promoting democracy, essentially promoting democratic values around the world. are you concerned about that? some could argue that american foreign policy has to be more realistic and pragmatic, so take that out of the mission. what say you? america s diplomacy in the world has been based on our values and our principle value is our respect for our democracy, our freedoms, and our ability to be able to engage in self-government. those are the critical features of what makes us a strong country in the world, what makes us the world leader. if we eliminate reference to democracy, if we limit reference to the basic freedoms and liberties that are critical, not only for our country but the rest of the world, then i think it undermines our ability to exert world leadership. it makes us weaker. so you would advise secretary tillerson don t make any changes to this? don t mess with that. you don t need to mess with that. what you need to do is to get more diplomats in the state department to do the job that you have to do, which is to reach out to the world and engage in diplomatic relationships that can help our country provide security to the world. secretary panetta, wish we had more time with you. but appreciate you coming on and sharing your views, sir. good to be with you, chuck. still ahead, why a power grab in venezuela could have a significant impact on our politics at home, coming up next. this is the new guy? 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ask your doctor about victoza®. i promised you some quick christopher wray news. the three senators didn t vote at all, mccain, al franken and richard burr. the five democratic no votes, the oregon delegation and the massachusetts delegation. so there you have it. coming up, the trump administration s own version of fake news. we ll be right back. about my culture. i put the gele on my head and i looked into the mirror and i was trying not to cry. because it s a hat, but it s like the most important hat i ve ever owned. discover the story only your dna can tell. order your kit now at ancestrydna.com. he s happy.t s with him? your family s finally eating vegetables thanks to our birds eye voila skillet meals. and they only take 15 minutes to make. ahh! birds eye voila so veggie good office depot/office max. this week, filler paper just one cent with five dollar minimum purchase. taking care of business. him of human rights abuses and calling him a dictator, disregarding the will of his people. join me now is the author of the florida playbook and has been covering the issue of venezuela interests in american politics. mr. caputo, good to see you. good to see you, chuck. let me start with the fact that the two senators from florida here, democrat and republican, are lock step on what to do about venezuela and what action they want to see taken. it reminds me of how lock step the two parties were when it came to cuba policy oh, i want to say circa 25 years ago. before marco rubio coined the term a few years ago, but venezuela is the new cuba, its government is not only reminisce sent of cuba but heavily influenced by it. so you have the belief in florida that what meduro is doing and what chavez before him was doing is destabilizing the region. what we re starting to see in florida is more and more of an influx of expats coming here from venezuela. and the latest wave are the venezuelans. there s at least 117,000 who now live here. it grew that much between 2000 and 2012. it s probably about 36,000 venezuelan born voters on the florida voter rolls. and let s remember the way this works. this is basically this new exodus out of venezuela began with hugo chavez, and obviously it s been accelerated with meduro. but the venezuelans that have come over, they were the ones that had the means to do it, that had the connections to do it. so almost by the definition, these new venezuelan residents and soon perhaps to be voters and citizens, they come in extraordinarily engaged in the political process as it is, which i assume makes them more persuasive to the marco rubios and bill wells. of the 35,000 venezuelan born voters in florida, their turnout rate in the last election was 80%. the rest of the state was 75%. but it s an up for grabs lector cat. of them 17,000, about half, are registered as independent voters. about 12,000 are register eed a democrat, 6,000 registered as republicans. they appear to lean a little more left than the right. but it s not clear which way they broke right or left, and they seem to be up for grabs and both parties are trying to grab them. i have noticed in my visiting back home pockets of the influence of venezuelan exiles and venezuelan culture. but is it are you starting to see larger communities being built in south florida just from the same way we have a little havana, we re going to have a little caracas. you re not quite seeing that, but the city of dural where donald trump has his golf course, but it s fick named duraluela. you re seeing these bigger pockets grow in influence and numbers. you re going to see more and more of that as the meduro regime appears to crack down more and more. one of the lessons from cuba, if you re going to do sanctions, don t expect them to change a dictator or a regime s behavior, do it because you think it s necessarily the right thing to do. but i don t have much faith, considering our cuban history, in venezuela or meduro changing his behavior to the degree we want it to change. and is history repeating itself, where the people that can make the change in venezuela are fleeing and then comes here. you know, mao said all political power comes from the barrel of a gun, and meduro is intent on exercising that political power right now. mark, a pleasure to have you on. still ahead, why so many statements by this administration require a sequel. . the at&t network is helping first responders connect with medical teams in near real time. stay with me, mr. parker. .saving time when it matters most. stay with me, mrs. parker. that s the power of and. done.rs. super-cool notebooks. done. that s mom taking care of business. but who takes care of mom? office depot/office max. this week, filler paper just one cent with five dollar minimum purchase. taking care of business. .with pantene 3 minute miracle daily conditioner.s. a super concentrated pro-v formula makes hair stronger in just 3 minutes. so it s smoother every day. because strong is beautiful. welcome back. tonight, i m obsessed with this administration s apparent inability or refusal to tell the truth the first time they re asked. all presidents and all administrations shade and shape the truth to their own advantage. but what we re seeing now is of a different order of magnitude. and today s grudging acknowledgement that president trump did help draft his son s statement about his meeting with a group of russians after denying exactly that, it s just the latest example of this administration s taste for fake news. the following statements are simply from recent appearances on the sunday version of meet the press. can you tell me about the reports that the president was involved in the initial response that donald trump, jr. gave the new york times ? so i read those reports as well. and the president was not did not draft the response. the response was came from donald trump, jr. i notice you ducked the aspect of whether you can guarantee that nobody will be worse off financially. i firmly believe that nobody will be worse off financially in the process that we re going through, understanding that they ll have choices that they can select the kind of coverage that they want for themselves and for their families. i have talked to general flynn. none of that came up, none of the subject matter of sanctions or the actions taken by the obama administration did not come up in the conversation. there was no challenge of american policy currently by mr. flynn with the russians? none. i answered the question of why the president asked the white house press secretary to come out in front of the podium for the first time and utter a falsehood, why did he do that? it undermines the credibility of the entire white house press office. don t be so ofly dramatic about it, chuck. they re giving sean spicer he gave alternative facts to that. in these and other cases what the administration said ended up being wrong. not a shade of it, not a way to spin it, it was just flat out wrong. did the people say what they believed to be true at the time? did they mislead unintentionally? did they mislead intentionally? was it a lie? was it that kind of motivation? we don t know that, but at this point, they have accumulated a ton of instances where it appears they owe us that explanation in that front. it s a reminder why young journalists are taught the following. if your mother says she loves you, go get a second source. we ll be right back. discover card. hey. what can you tell me about your new social security alerts? oh! we ll alert you if we find your social security number on any one of thousands of risky sites, so you ll be in the know. ooh. sushi. ugh. being in the know is a good thing. sign up online for free. discover social security alerts. lid time. panel is back. phillip, let me start with you. this issue of boy, the white house just keeps getting caught not telling the truth. they seem to be okay with it in the moment. it s like everything is short term. get out of the moment, avoid a bad story in the moment and hope it just never pops up later. we go with this idea. did the president get involved in donald trump junior s statement. new york times said he had a hand in that statement. jay said to me as we just showed, no. no part of it at all. now sarah huckabee sanders is saying he took an interest in the way any father would. anything further the thing that struck me about what sanders said is she said his origin gnal statement is true wh is misleading. you want to define true. there was no, nothing in there was fault. they just didn t tell us. here s the thing to keep this mind about donald trump, his experience in politics is you say whatever you want to say. late er you backtrack. you said it experience in politics. you are both new yorkers here. that s his experience dealing with tabloids. you could say whatever you need to do to get through page 6 today and worry about it later. it s up, your down. it is what it is. market change in real estate. trump used to dealing that way. i wonder what does don do all day. tlp is a white house counsel office that should be advising these guys to conduct themselves that doesn t put them in legal jeopardy. we lempbed this time and time again, in other words for the team to tell the truth, they have to be told the truth by the principle. we don t know what donald trump is telling them. i think something happened that first week after his election when it was laid out by lawyers that he would not have to denude himself of the trump organization and there was this body of law that suggested that a president could not be indicted or sued or be the subject of criminal action while in office and he was like, get out of jail free card. he s like this is great. i can go four years without lawsuit. nixon was right. i m free. i m not kidding about this. you can see it when he said it three or four times this november or december. it s like this lightbulb over his head. problem is, nobody else has the free pass. his son doesn t have a free pass. his daughter doesn t have a free pass. all these people are lawyered up. they re going to be interviewed. hesitate realit s really jus pence. it s the two heads of the executive branch. remember the fact he was told repeatlied for a year and a half you can t do this. you can t lie. you have to be honest and he won. he was validated, obviously, he spends a lot of time how he s validated by having won the election but this in particular he feels that way. this gets a the challenge we all get accused of bias but when somebody is this blatant in their contradiction it makes you question everything they say. i think beyond trump s legal jeopardy, the problem is it starts to call into question the mundane coming out of the administration. you re smoezed esupposed to tr basic. it becomes to trust the difficult writ large. we re back at the nixon moment because minor things are lies. i don t know. i can t head our tailing of it. that s what he wants. all white houses do this. all white houses spin, through news story, try to change focus. say we re moving forward for a year when bill clinton became president. it s time to move forward from this story. the story just been out for an hour. that s a classic thing. we ll leave it there. thank you all. you can catch joy reid tonight. she s filling in for rachel maddow. after the break you wouldn t believe who is running for the senate now. we ll be right back. it was always a dream of mine to become a professional soccer player, but i never imagined that i d be playing in kansas city. when i was first elected mayor, they would talk about kansas city, kansas like. i can t wait to get out of here. through the years we lost over 30,000 people. we turned that obstacle into an opportunity. the speedway was the catalyst. and because of the speedway we now have a shopping area and a wonderful soccer stadium. and now we re starting to grow in population. 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of the trump campaign. just to state the obvious that we all know, the president shoots from the hip. i m not sure there was a ton of fore thought into what he said about sessions. i think he was honest and blunt about his feelings at that moment in time. they are feelings that he has had on and off for some time now. the russian investigation as we all know kind of won t go away as a story line partly because there s an open investigation but also because the president is preoccupied with it and he brings it up all the time, in private conversations and apparently in public ones. i think there s a real concern in terms of the comments he s made obviously because they also seem to indicate that, you know, first he wants loyalty from comey, now he wants loyalty or allegiance from attorney general, like he s wanting to run this the way he runs his business, which is not the way the government works and certainly not the way the justice department works, which is an independent institution. these senior officials take an oath to the constitution, not donald trump, and he fundamentally misunderstands that. if he wants to run it the way he runs his business, shouldn t those around him remember he s gone bankrupt four times? i want to share what he said about robert mueller. mueller was looking at your finances and your family s finances unremitted to russia, is that a red line? would that be a breach of what his actual charge is? i would say yeah, i would say yes. that s a red line. you cannot go into my family s finances. once robert muler is in that kitchen, he s in there. it s called an independent investigation for a reason. the whole purpose of this exercise is not to exonerate donald trump or prove his innocence. it s to get to the truth, wherever it may take us. and the american people deserve to know whether their president a operating in the american s interests or his own business or financial interests. this is a completely fair question to be asked. does donald trump have any point in that if robert mueller s job is not to exonerate donald trump, it s also not his job to look under every rock there possibly is to see if he, you know, cheated on his homework in 1962. i just think mueller which i m going to take a guess he probably did. which you know what, i may have as well. procedurally, he s in a very awkward spot now because trump has eventually said i will fire him if he gets into this area of inquiry. if the investigation leads him there, i m sure he ll feel compelled to proceed and risk being fired but that of course would be totally counterproductive to the entire effort. which goes into this bizarre history he s created, this alternative universe he s created where somehow rod rosenstein told him to fire comey and rod rosenstein also stacked him in the back by appointing mueller. the president s inability to put together basic chronology of what his own behavior lead to is part of what makes this interview so bizarre. we ve seen rambling things from trump before, but i don t think he knows what he did yesterday let alone the consequences of what he ll do today. making him a defense attorney s nightmare and a prosecutor s dream. i want to share more of what he said when he was specifically talking about his conversation with vladimir putin. it was not a long conversation, but it was, you know, could be 15 minutes. just talked about things. i actually talked about russian adoption with him, which is interesting because that was a part of the conversation that don had in that meeting. okay. ewing my president trump decoder ring, adoptions means sanctions. does the president not understand that whether that meeting was 15 minutes or 50 minutes sanctions and adoptions are one and the same and you sit down with vladimir putin, you are getting in the way of some serious foreign policy issues. apparently not, which of course is pretty surprising given all of what s unfolded with his son and the meeting that they had and all of the conversations that, you know, we ve had since then about adoption, the magnitsky act, collusion. so it s pretty surprising that, you know, he is seemingly unawares. but the reality is when you look at trump s behavior, when you read the rest of the interview and look at statements he s made in the past, he really doesn t seem to know a lot about what s going on with any of us. he doesn t seem to understand the seriousness of the investigation and why it matters. he doesn t seem to understand why sessions recused himself and the importance of having an investigation that has integrity and how having an investigation with integrity can benefit him if he doesn t have anything to hide. he doesn t understand that his attorney general is not his junior employee who he can expect to put his personal political interest before the american people. it s really a problem across the board and it comes through clearly in this interview. there s something else to hide. 17 million bucks. 17 large. new york times reported paul manafort in the hole to russian interests, going into the campaign for 17 large. right. how do we square this one off? well, i mean, manafort s obviously got a very serious problem here and, you know, he s one of the key individuals in these inquiries. so it s just putting more detail on what is already a very serious issue for him among others. i need a quick yes/no. does jeff sessions quit? no. yes. yes. that s what makes markets. we ll soon find out. we have to turn to some other news, news that shook capitol hill shgt i want to shay it shook the world last night. senator john mccain diagnosed with brain cancer. this was revealed after he underwent surgery this week for a blood clot just above his left eye. msnbc s garrett haake is on capitol hill. garrett, you were on the hill seemingly all day, all night yesterday speaking to lawmakers as they learn this news. what are you hearing? yeah, stepny. let me set the scene for you last night. we had about 15 or 20 republican senators meeting behind closed doors on health care. this is a senators only meeting. their aides weren t even in the room. they were sort of cloistered away last night when this news broke. lindsey graham, who is john mccain s best friend in washington, d.c., and probably his best friend who he s not immediately related to, was on the phone with john mccain when he walked into that meeting room. he broke the news to rest of the senators. they were absolutely stunned by this, depressed. they sort of stomed the meeting right in their tracks and asked one of the member who is s a former pastor back in oklahoma to say a prayer for john mccain right then and there. they tried to keep working after that, but everyone we talked to coming out including lindsey graham, especially lindsey graham, so emotional about not having this person who served as the spiritual leader of the republican party in the senate. here was lindsey graham talking to our cameras right after that meeting late last night. pray. i don t know, god knows how this ends, not me, but i do know this this disease has never had a more worthy opponent. a reporter: one of the things he said was after about five minutes of conversation about the tumor, john mccain was talking about passing a defense authorization. he was talking about health care. he was talking about the work. he urged his republican colleagues to get back to work and that s what we re going to see here shortly this morning. john mccain is a great american and certainly a fighter. let s turn to nbc news medical contributor dr. natalie azar. dr. natalie, john mccain s family in their statements have said they are weighing treatment options. what kind of options are they here? the standard course of therapy is chemotherapy and radiation after the tumor was surgically resected. that s the standard of care. with that, the median survival is roughly 14 months. five-year survival statistics about 5 to 17%. things that factor into the prognosis are age, so older age patients tend to have a worse outcome. his 80, but his mom, i want so say she s 105. amazing. we know he s strong guy so i certainly have all the faith there. they also study the tumor and look at two specific markers that will predict how well he responds to chemo and will know the result and the status of those in about a week or two. a little early to say exactly what path is going to be followed but the standard of care again is resection, you hope to get as much out as you can according to the scans, they did get a complete resection, which is great, and then chemo and radiation would be the standard of care. well, we are certainly sending him all of our prayers, and we know he s going to get the very best treatment. dr. natalie, thank you so much. next, cbo scores, straight repeal of obamacare, and those numbers, they ain t good. founding member of the freedom caucus congressman jim jordan, explains what he thinks it needs to be repealed even without a replacement. but before we go, the celebration day for president trump. the six-month anniversary of his inauguration. we ve spoken before about his low poll numbers. but how does he compare to past presidents at this point in their tenure? 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oh, sorry, most broadcast and sports channels aren t included. and you can only stream on two devices at once. this is fun, we re having fun. yeah, we are. no, you re not jimmy. don t let directv now limit your entertainment. xfinity gives you more to stream to more screens. my message today is really simple. we have to stay here, we shouldn t leave town, and we should hammer this out and get it done. president trump there demanding that republicans remain in d.c. until they have a plan to repeal and replace obamacare. just hours later, nearly two dozen senators met to hash out their differences. we still do have work to do to get to a vote of 50, but people are committed to continuing that work. we ve just got a ways to go yet. it will take a little more patience. i don t think we re as far as some people think they are but there s work to be done, no doubt. trying to get to 50. working on it. any closer? hard to say. i m joined by ohio republican congressman jim jordan, a founding member of the house freedom caucus. congressman, i know you want to vote to repeal the aca even if there s no replacement ready. you ve had a lot of time to come up with a replacement. why would another year or two make any difference? well, senator mccain has said this, if you can repeal it first, that may be the catalyst you need to create the momentum you need for actually a bipartisan solution where we could work on some of the things that the more moderate members of the republican conference and democrats are really focus on like some of the medicaid expansion issues, the opioid issues, as well as some of those things we believe on the conservative side would bring down premiums like expanding health savings accounts, easier formation of association health plans, and interstate shopping for insurance. so that s the kind of trade that can be set up if you first repeal it, which everyone onos we have to do, and oh by the way, what we told the american people we were going to do when they elected us. not everyone knows we have to replace it. i would say there s consensus that it has to be improved. and do you have to replace it and take that kind of risk to motivate people to work together? the cbo says we could see nearly 17 million more people go uninsured by next year alone. premiums doubling in 2 1/2 years. why repeal it and say i m going to put a gun to your head to work together? why not not just work together? first of all, it never hurts to do what you said nap s what we told the american people we were going to do in 2010, 2014, 2016s when we won elections on that issue. you said repeal and replace, not just repeal. so let s repeal it then replace it in another piece of legislation. they can happen at the same time. that s not quite working out in the same bill, but they can happen in the same time two different bills or repeal it then get to the replace. second, cbo, this the same cbo who said when obamacare passed that 21 million americans would be on obamacare right now when in fact the numb inter9 million. the same cbo that said when the medicaid expansion happen under obamacare the cost would be $4600. instead it s $6200. the cbo it go the facts that have happen wrd cbo has been wrong countless times. second, and you guys never talk about this, our repeal bill says it s not effective until december 31st, 2018. if it were passed today and president trump would sign it tomorrow, there s a year and a half before it takes effect. that s time for what i just described, people to come together and put together a replacement plan that will bring down premiums, which have risen dramatically under obamacare, and if you can pay your premium, can you afford the four, six, eight thousand dollar deduckable so many plans have that so many are experiencing. that s how we can come together and solve problems for american families. you said yesterday you have a full understanding of what the american people want. i m looking at the this new cnn poll that says 35% want to abandon the repeal only if you re going to then have an immediate replacement. it doesn t seem like the american people want to take this risk. it seems like it s a campaign promise that you want to just check off. no. we want to do what we told the american people we were going to do, what we think is best. never forget where we re at and never forget what the democrats told the american people when they passed this terrible thing called obamacare. remember all the false statements we were told. like your plan, chemoyour plan. like your doctor, keep your doctor. we were told premiums would go down. the president of the united states said premiums would go down on average $2,500. we were told the website was going to work. we were told the website information on their was secure. we were told that emergency room visits could trade deadline. they ve went up. and we were told these co-ops would be wonderful. you are right. 18 of the 22. everything we were told and that this law has to be repealed. let s do it as soon as possible with the effective date in the future a year and a half. that gives us time to putting to the replacement. there are loads of obamacare problems. that is one of the reasons president trump won the election. right. it is also why republicans control it all. so why can t you get your house together? you don t need democrats. you can blame democrats but you near the most beautiful position. you don t need them. you know what, stephanie? you re right. we did that in the house. we did come together. we had an intense debate in the house. i know because of that intense debate we conservatives made the bill that left the house a better piece of legislation that actually brought down premiums. so let s hope the senate can do the same thing there and have the same process up fold over there. if they don t, we started the process yesterday with doing a discharge petition, bringing out the clean repeal and doing again what we told the american people we were going to do. is president trump your ally here? yesterday he said republicans do a poor job of trying to explain this and sell the new health care idea, this new bill, yet i m reading the interview he did with the new york times where he s talking about entitlements and i want to share a quote where he says, you know, you re 21 years old, you start working and you re paying 12 bucks a year for insurance and by the time you re 70 you get a nice plan. it s as though the president has a very sophomoric understanding of how health care works. so is the president your advocate here? is he helping you sell this? i think the president s helping us on this issue and a host of others. i think what has to happen is congress has to do what we said. again, we make this job way too complicated. i know what i told the voters in the fourth district of ohio. i know in crawford county i get today there is not one single plan offered in the exchange, not one plan if you live in crawford county, ohio. so i know what s happened to folks. i know what i told them i was do. that s what i m focused on accomplishing. i think the president is doing the same thing spop let s simply do what we said, do what the american people sent us here to accomplish. all right. if it doesn t have to be that complicated, does it mean you ll vote on it next week and it will pass? we ve already voted on it in the house, stephanie. we seal what happens in the senate. senator mcconnell said bring up the repeal, our leadership won t bring up that bill so we ve start the process to make an end run around that and bring a discharge position to the floor and vote on a clean repeal. good luck. thank you. up next, senator elizabeth warren joins me on everything from the russia investigation to a new report card on president trump s first six months. and speaking of president trump s first six months, monday he made this claim. we ve signed for bills and i m talking about through the legislature, than any president ever. 42 bills signed so far top the two previous presidents but it is fewer than bill clinton. and of those bills nearly one-third of them are aimed at pulling back rules put in place by president obama. well, president trump said he doesn t like to get pinocchios. i m afraid at this rate he s going to be getting quite a few. listerine® total care strengthens teeth, after brushing, helps prevent cavities and restores tooth enamel. it s an easy way to give listerine® total care to the total family. listerine® total care. one bottle, six benefits. power to your mouth™. essential for him, but maybe not for people with rheumatoid arthritis. because there are options. like an unjection™ . xeljanz xr. a once daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, lymphoma and other cancers have happened. don t start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. tears in the stomach or intestines, low blood cell counts and higher liver tests and cholesterol levels have happened. your doctor should perform blood tests before you start and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell your doctor if you were in a region where fungal infections are common and if you have had tb, hepatitis b or c, or are prone to infections. needles. fine for some. but for you, one pill a day may provide symptom relief. ask your doctor about xeljanz xr. an unjection™ . to keep our community safe. before you do any project big or small, pg&e will come out and mark your gas and electric lines so you don t hit them when you dig. call 811 before you dig, and make sure that you and your neighbors are safe. there s a new report card out that shows he s fallen fall short in fulfilling one of his key promises from the campaign draping the swamp in washington. joining me is the author of that report card, a report card in the summer? nobody wants one of those. senator elizabeth warren. i want to talk about the report card but i have to ask you about a colleague of yours, john mccain, a man you ve known for years and years. what is your reaction to his diagnosis and the mood among your fellow lawmakers? you know, we re all just stunned. john is tough and has been in every fight, and the idea that he s facing something like this is just a shock to everyone here. he s a good man, and i know he ll be strong in this fight, the fight for his life. a great man. let s talk about you and the report card you ve been working on over the last few weeks. you put together this report card on president trump s efforts to drain the swamp in washington. he talked so much about it, speeches he gave about the goldman sachs partners that hillary clinton would be lining the halas of the white house with, and mind you the president has done so. you ve given him an f. at least it wasn t an f-minus, and you found that his administration and his transition team has included 1993 lobbyists and corporate insiders. can you put that in context for me in terms of his entire administration and how that s impacted policies? so, look, washington works great right now for giant corporations. and one of the prince. reasons is because they can hire an army of lobbyists to get out there and make sure that their point of view is represented in every decision that gets made in government. it s just not working so great for the rest of america. so when trump promised to drain the swamp during a campaign, i thought that s something really important. and i want to keep track of what he does. and instead of draining the swamp, here it is, he s brought in 193 lobbyists, corporate executives, corporate consultants, and they re in every part of government making key decisions. the department of education. what s happened they ve already rolled back rules to protect student borrowers so that the corporate interests can make more money. you watch the same thing happening, for example, in the department of the treasury. they re looking at whether or not to roll back some of the regulations that were put in place after the 2008 financial crisis. and what have they done? they ve come up with a list of regulations to be rolled back. and here s how it s described by the industry. it is the big bank s wish list. same kind of thing is happening over in the drug industry. put together a team of people to try to deal with the question of rising drug costs, and donald trump puts a lobbyist in charge and now the lobbyist is coming up with an initial draft that looks like exactly what it is that the big drug companies want, not what families want. this matters to people on a day by day-by-day basis that donald trump has put the corporate lobbyists in charge of running our government. unform, report cards can get slid under beds, in the back of drawers. what can actually be done? when i think about some of those photographs i ve seen with president trump signing executive orders, well, he has a ceo like andrew liverest of dow chemical standing next to him saying maybe we should call this the dow bill. people that make dangerous pesticides. maybe they ll be legal again. steve schwartzman, a ceo from blackstone, joining president trump on that trip to saudi arabia, where blackstone raised a cool $40 billion in permanent capital from the saudi family. these are not just anecdotes. these are bad things. what can be done about them? so, the first thing we try to do is to get some accountability, and that s why senator whitehouse and i put this report together, is to try to say here s what s happening. it s one more example, just as others have done, of trying to twaef flag, trying to make it clear what s going on, because that is the first step at accountability. the second step is too to try to get the word out, i posted this on my website, i snow that senator whitehouse will be doing the same, to send it around to everybody that we can because it is only when the voices of the people are heard that we re going to be able to fight back against this. i believe in accountability for government. right now that s going to take people across the country, it s going the take grassroots saying, wait a minute, i see what you re doing, donald trump, and it s not okay with me. that s our first step. knost people would not be surprised that you gave the president an f. what do you say to those who say great, elizabeth warren, this is just a partisan argument, we ve heard it, you re anti-trump, what do you say to them? it s 193 lobbyists and corporate claonsultants that donald trump has brought in to help advise him and then help him run the government. the document is there. read the numbers. you can t ignore the facts any longer. that s what s happening in washington. and be clear, the american people know what s going on. they re not fooled. the american people want solutions. you ve been anti-trump, opposed to the republicans health care efforts. president trump says, for example, in health care, single pay yes, something you have pushed for, will bankrupt america. do you believe it s a resolution that could help america? i think we have three things we need to do on the health care front. the first is we need to defend what we have right now and that means not let 32 million people get knocked off health care. when there s a vote next week as mitch mcconnell has said there will be, we need to defeat the effort to repeal the affordable care act. the second thing we need to do is bring down costs, for example, the cost of prescription drugs. i have a bill with bernie sanders and others that says we can import those drugs from canada where often they are paying one-tenth of what we re paying here in the united states. are there any republicans willing to work on that bill? because partisanship is the only way you re going to get anywhere. we are certainly reaching out and we re certainly open to that. you know, the problem of high cost for prescription drugs is not just a democratic problem. it s a problem that faces democrats, republicans, independents. i talked to people all across massachusetts who tell me i m paying $162 a month for this prescription drug. i could buy it in canada for less than half that. i m paying $300 on prescription drugs, $500 on prescription drugs. and the drug companies just keep raising prices, raising prices and raising prices. we ve got to be willing to push back against that and bring down the costs, bring down the costs for families and bring down the costs for insurance companies because that will help bring down the cost of insurance overall. and, yeah, when we do that, we also need to talk about how we get more coverage across america. you know, how we expand medicare so it s available to more americans. so i think we ve got all three parts, defend what we ve got exexpand what we ve got, and then let s have a serious conversation about how he get better coverage through medicare. those are the ways we can get full coverage and help bring down costs for all of us. i have to ask you about president trump s comments about his own attorney general, jeff sessions, yesterday. telling new york times, sessions never should have recused himself and if he was going to, he should have told me before he took the job and i would have picked someone else. what do you make of this? is it almost a gift that president trump continues to no. mud dpi di the waters and ghefrt to an agenda? you know, no, it is not a gift. i m here to fight for working families. it means the business for working families is not being done. trump s rash about jeff sessions are one more example of how he s not interested in following the law and he s not interested in protecting anyone but himself. i opposed jeff sessions for attorney general of the united states, but let s be clear, his recusing himself is simply following the law. that is what the department of justice requires. he followed the rules. for donald trump to say, gee, i really wanted an attorney general who wouldn t follow the rules is just like i said, one more example. donald trump has only one thing in mind, and that is how can everything profit donald trump. if you opposed jeff sessions before, now he recused himself, sounds like donald trump wants him out. do you want him to quit? i d be very glad for him to quit and get someone else in as attorney general of the united states. i believe firmly jeff sessions should not be the number-one lawmaker in america. he is right now the one who is responsible for enforcing our laws, and his views on many of those laws i think head us in the wrong direction. on civil rights, on drug, on private prisons. there are many reasons for jeff sessions not to be attorney general. you think president trump s next pick would be better? we can have that fight. but jeff sessions in major areas is trying to pull us in the wrong direction. elizabeth warren sending president trump back to summer school. nobody wants an f. thanks for joining me. take care. up next, much more from donald trump s explosive and i m going to say it bizarre interview with the new york times. how he defends the correlation between don junior s russian meeting and his attacks on hillary clinton. but today we ve been talking about it all morning. today is the six-month mark for president trump. one thing he does get very high marks for is the stock market, which has risen 9% in the first six months alone, much higher than his predecessors . did it benefit trump supporters? it definitely benefited many in his cabinet. moments ago the opening bell rang. down slightly but coming off a high mark. there s nothing more important to me than my vacation. so when i need to book a hotel, i want someone who makes it easy to find what i want. booking.com gets it. and with their price match, i know i m getting the best price every time. c mon, gary! your vacation is very important. that s why booking.com makes finding the right hotel for the right price easy. visit booking.com now to find out why we re booking.yeah! during episodes of low blood sugar, or if you are allergic to any of its ingredients. don t share needles or insulin pens. don t reuse needles. the most common side effect is low blood sugar, which may cause dizziness, sweating, confusion, and headache. check your blood sugar. low blood sugar can be serious and may be life-threatening. injection site reactions may occur. tell your prescriber about all medicines you take and all your medical conditions. taking tzds with insulins like tresiba® may cause serious side effects like heart failure. your insulin dose shouldn t be changed without asking your prescriber. get medical help right away if you have trouble breathing, fast heartbeat, extreme drowsiness, swelling of your face, tongue, or throat, dizziness, or confusion. ask your health care provider if you re tresiba® ready. covered by most insurance and medicare plans. tresiba® ready it s my decision to make it s nbeauty last.ix. roc® retinol started visibly reducing my fine lines and wrinkles in one week. and the longer i use it, the better it works. retinol correxion® from roc methods, not miracles.™ hillary clinton and i said, i mean, that s standard political stuff. did you know at the time that they had the meeting? no, i didn t know anything about the meeting. that s not standard political stuff. that was more of president trump s interview with the new york times talking about his son and son-in-law s meeting with the russian lawyer. this comes after the white house and trump s political team said president trump was not aware of any meeting between his son, don junior, and a russian lawyer. kate kelly and jason johnson. kate, president trump is saying he heard about the request for the meet bug then saying he didn t know about the meeting. are voters going to buy this? i don t know if they will, but i m not sure his base will give a darn. i mean, i think it s more of the same. i mean, he doesn t use e-mail, right so, he goes off memory many times. he has aides that help prefresh his memory when he needs that. in this case, you could make a case that he knew about it or didn t know about it. he then goes on to say, well, you know, i talked often on the stump about i often beat up hillary clinton and talked about her ties to russia and receiving money for speeches and so on. so he tries to sort of equivocate. it s just not clear. let s play that because it doesn t necessarily matter if it s his voters who care. does robert mueller care? listen. you give speech that night saying you re going to gave speech about how hillary clinton s corrupt dealings with russia and other countries, and that comes just three hours after don junior number one, remember, i made many of those speeches. people wondered about the timing. i go after it all the time. this is ahead of their visit to capitol hill. don junior, paul manafort, jared kushner. to simply say that this is politics, we learned from the new york times paul manafort in the hole to russian interests 17 million bucks pap few nice meetings and a tip of the hat, that would sure help clear that kind of dough. just quickly, start of peter baker to bring up the time line. he wrote a story on this last week. it was three hours late they re he promised a big bombshell on this topic so that is somewhat damning. at this point it s hard to believe this all happened in the building that he didn t know that he detective know in advance, we ve fot 8 million people, the number of people at this meeting, manafort, kushner, boris and natasha, smirnov, everybody was in this room. yakov smirnoff was not in the room. at this point i wouldn t doubt it nap s the thing. it s so disingenuous. i have to say this. this idea that this is just common politics, you get this e-mail, if anybody here got an e-mail from a deposed african prince saying i got $20 million for you, you don t respond to that either. the president to suggest from a foreign enemy that it was just okay that he would, this is a problem. nigerian e-mail scammers, get don junior s e-mail address. exactly. without sounding like an apologist for the president, i think this is yet another reflection of his inexperience in politics, his somewhat narrow experience of running a private family real estate organization. think about how he thinks about things and how he free associates. the topic of rod rosenstein comes up. he s ticked off because rosen steep is from baltimore where there are very few republicans. that s his reaction. he s not thinking in a sort of thoughtful, logical way. for republicans. listening to this. the only take-away should be opportunity lost. this was an opportunity of a lifetime for republicans to get to their agenda. and listen to what the president said when asked about his ties with russian businessmen. it s extraordinary. i mean, it s possible there s a condo or something, so, you know, i sell a lot of condo units and somebody from russia buys a condo, who knows? i don t get any money from russia. they said i own buildings in russia. i don t. they said i made money from russia. it s not my thing. i don t do that. no one said he owns buildings in russia. they said he got money from russia. he s a licenser. he doesn t build them and pay for them himself. i have to say i think the condo point is a smart point because it s a good way to explain there might be some links there, i have connections to many, many real estate units in the u.s. and beyond if some russians bought my condo, that might be a legitimate and irrelevant thing to this investigation. he s kind of doing what he does, which is here, media, follow the ball this way, and investigation is happening over here. media won t fall for this nonsense but robert mueller can quickly find out if all these condos are sold to shell companies, sold at off-market properties like his estate in palm beach he buys for 40 and sells for 90. in i m robert mueller, i don t look the other way. he ll fire robert mueller before anything happens and the republican party will sit there with their hands in their pockets and say we didn t know what to do. correct. how low can you go. i don t know. he loves the hip-hop. we have to take a break. next, could the juice be set loose? 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personal account. his lawyer confirmed yesterday, dozens of times to correspondents, like steve bannon, reince priebus. president trump is doubling down, tripling down on his comments about nfl players not standing during the national anthem. mentioning nothing about puerto rico and the 3 million people suffering there. the president tweeting, many people booed the players who kneeled yesterday, which was a small percentage. in total, these are fans who demanded respect for our flag. adding, the issue of kneeling has nothing to do with race. it is about respect for our country, flag and national anthem. nfl must respect this. president trump, that s wrong. also tweeting, proud of nascar in its supporters and fans. they won t put up with disrespecting our country or flag. from nfl spokes mman to form press secretary for bill clinton, quote, yesterday was an important day in the nfl. this is what real locker room talk is. tom brady did not go to the white house when the patriots were invited after they won, yet the president made no comment. over the weekend, he attacked steph curry of the golden state warriors, who decided back in june not to go to the celebratory party with his teammates. his teammates who now decided they re not going to the white house either. it caused such a stir that fellow basketball superstar lebron james tweeted, calling the president a bum. all of this after a wave of protests across the nfl took place yesterday during the anthem. more than 100 players kneeling in defiance. others joining in a massive show of solidarity. with coaches and owners, even some team owners, who doe nate donated heavily, i m talking in the millions, including the president s friend, robert kraft, and the redskins owner, all following the fire storm the president set off on friday night. wouldn t you love to see one of these nfl owners, when somebody disrespects our flag, just say, get that son of a bitch off the field right now. he s fired. he s fired! collectively, we felt like we had to, you know, do something. only a few times in a man s life where you have a chance to stand up for something you believe in and make a statement. today, i thought that was the chance, and i took it. there are no sobs in this league. i supported donald trump. i sat back, when he asked me to introduce him at a rally, you know, in buffalo, i did that, but i m reading these comments, and it s appalling to me. i don t agree with it at all. i think that president trump was absolutely right when he said that the players should stand for the national anthem. i disagree. they should be able to protest how they feel is necessary. i want to point out, the president called the nfl players sons of bitches, yet when he referenced the protesters at the neo-nazi event back in charlottesville many, many fine people. joining us now, live, former nfl defensive end marvin washington, who played for the new york jets, 49ers and the denver broncos during his 11-year career. also, former seattle seahawks player and army green beret nate boyer, who served multiple tours in iraq and afghanistan. nate, marvin has the home-court advantage so we ll start with you. you talked to colin kaepernick, into kneeling instead of sitting on the bench, as he s done for several weeks. talk us through the argument that president trump makes, that if you don t stand, you re standing against the united states of america. yeah, first of all, i didn t talk him into it. that was a conversation that we make to the middle ground together. that was between him and me. we sat down for a couple hours, discussed our perspective and definitely our feelings toward the anthem, the flag and our background that led us to feel that way. kind of came to that decision together. but, like i said before and i ll say again, i will always stand because of what it means to me. the men and women who lay down their lives for what that piece of cloth represents. however, that piece of cloth also represents everyone s right in this country and the freedoms to express yourself how you feel. when you re not pleased with something, in our country, you have the ability to speak out against it or to take a knee against it or do something in protest in some way, as long as it is peaceful. i ll always support that. so i support the rights 100%. marvin, just for historical perspective, when you played, you didn t have to stand. that was not something that players necessarily did. they didn t always come out for the national anthem. some cases, they were in. some cases, they didn t stand. of course. it depends how the game went. i don t remember being out there for the national anthem. this is something that s come on ae ce ece recently. i think 2009 when the nfl paid the department of defense to promote the department of defense paid the nfl. the department of defense paid the nfl. this is not about disrespecting the soldiers and flag. rosa parks didn t sit down because she didn t like the transportation system. this is about civil rights. my dad is buried in a veteran cemetery, and he joined the service when he was 17 years old during world war ii. he didn t have his full rights back here at home. so this is not about me disrespecting the flag or whatever. it is about these players expressing their first amendment right to freedom of speech and freedom of expression. my dad and the veterans like him will fight for him to either kneel or stand. here s something that puzzles me. newt gingrich earlier today said it is impossible for multi-millionaires to be oppr s oppressed. if they re feeling so oppressed, they need a shrink. newt gingrich doesn t realize abraham lincoln didn t fight to free slaves because it was affecting him personally. can you use your position to help those who don t have a voice? i think you should. sports and politics have been around since the inception of time. african-american players, since 1947, trying to integrate the game of basketbaeball. for him to say that, he acts like the owners own the players, when they own the team. i understand the players get paid a lot, but they re making the owners a lot of money, also. so i don t believe that. for newt gingrich to say that, i think, is ridiculous. he needs to have empathy and sympathy for what people of color are going through in this country. nate, i think something interesting that you said, that you have fought, you ve been in afghanistan, a place where the taliban do not allow any variance from the official line in terms of self-expression. there are millions of people living under the rule of isis that american soldiers are fighting right now. they will not allow any freedoms of expression of any sort. tell me about your sense of the importance of the freedoms we have to protest peacefully. yeah, i mean, that s what makes our country truly great and very special, you know. the anthem and that flag does not represent a person. it represents the entire nation. you know, when i was overseas fighting, the fact that i had to we had to put aside some of our differences and cultures and understand that, look, i may not relate to this person that i m working with and i m fighting alongside against terrorism, against hatred, but i can sit down and listen to them and understand that at the end of the day, they probably want the same things i do, as far as for their family and everything like that. and you have to be able to work maybe steph curry could say, i m not going to spend my time at a celebratory party for someone that doesn t clearly denounce racism. i agree with you. but i mean, if he comes at it with that attitude, like, look, i ll come to the white house but i want to sit down and talk, i mean, that s an opportunity. if he gets told no, he s told no. at least it s an attempt though. i don t know. i mean, i m just i m a huge fan of steph curry. i m a warriors fan, and he is an intelligent, young man. a lot of people follow him. i think that would be interesting to see what came of that. that s all i m saying. i totally understand where you re coming from. i m just saying steph curry is a leader, example of a father, husband, hard work pays off, is a tough guy to say, guess what, you re not invited anyway. marvin, could you comment on this point that steve mnuchin made, that the players should, quote, do free speech on your own time? the last time i checked in the united states of america, whether you re at work you can do free speech wherever you are. i m unclear what doing free speech means. i ve never been in a scenario where if you speak respectful from a place of integrity, you can t speech your mind. mnuchin is under investigation for mispolice station misplacement of federal funds. it s interesting coming from him. but people don t realize, the socially conscious athlete is what i grew up with. i grew up in the 60s and 70s. we had muhammad ali, jim brown, russell. i didn t look up to politicians. i looked up to sports stars. they can bring attention and focus to whatever issues are going on. i m glad we re having this conversation right now. it needs to be had. hopefully, it can lead to reform. wh we put our hands up, it s offensive. kneel down, it is offensive. ferguson has reform now in their come back from the break. plus, we ll explain how america s nuclear codes work and exactly how long it d take for president trump to pull the trigger. hi, i m the internet! you know what s difficult? foreign minister threatened the north would shoot down any u.s. bombers if necessary. this is important. u.s. bombers flew as far north and as close to north korea as they ve done in this century. this happened this weekend. joining us is nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker. what do you know? reporter: ali and steph, this war of words escalates. as you point out, speaking in new york, the north korean foreign minister said president trump declared war over the weekend. let me read you a tweet over the weeke weekend. just heard foreign minister of north korea speak at u.n. if he echoes thoughts of little rocket man, they won t be around much longer. north korea s leader saying that those comments, his other fiery comments, clearly a declaration of war. warning the international community should clearly remember it was the u.s. that declared war on north korea. really extraordinary language that is coming out, not only of north korea, but from president trump, as well. of course, he gave that speech at the u.n. last week and said that he was prepared to bring about north korea s total destruction if it didn t stop its nuclear provocations. now, of course, those words were also met with tough actions. the ones that you talked about, that show of force, flying military bombers close to the north, but also, of course, the toughest round of sanctions that we have seen yet. north korea has threatened to test fire an intercontinental ballistic missile into open air. if that happens, it ll be the first time a country takes that type of step to test a nuclear weapon in open air since china did it back in 1980. so certainly an escalation here. the question is, how does this all end? president trump has an event here at the white house today, which will be focused on jobs. undoubtedly, we ll get questions about this. we ll be paying very close attention to that. thank you. there s a lot of news. the trump administration is grappling with nuclear issues on two fronts this morning. first, iran s test launch of a new ballistic missile it says is capable of carrying nuclear warheads. condemned by the united nations, the missile test comes less than a week after president trump spoke before the general assembly here in new york. accusing iran of exporting violence, the white house faces an october 15th deadline to certify iran s compliance with the 2015 nuclear deal to congress. the president has claimed iran is in violation of, quote, the spirit of the deal, but has issued the certification as required every three months. meanwhile, the president s newest travel ban includes north korea, part of a ratcheting up of tensions between kim jeong june s regime and the united states. the two leaders have hurt ehurl massive personal attacks at each other, including this, that took place on friday. little rocket man. he may be smart, he may be is that strategic and totally crazy, but no matter what he is, we re going to handle it, folks. believe me. this is what is stunning to me. members of the administration and trump supporters would say, follow what he does, not what he says. what about when he says things that causes erratic countries like north korea to say, you ve declared war on us. it is impossible to separate the idea he tweets and wants his tweets to be taken seriously. sean spicer said consider it an official statement. he is tweeting things that are separate and apart from american policy as it regards north korea. when you re dealing with things on the fringes, that s fine. but this is a country with nuclear weaponry. we can t really be having these mixed messages. we were discussing this on friday. we said, we d like to be discussing the other policy, but he threatens via tweet. it would be irresponsible of us to ignore the tweets. because we ve been told, that s policy. how do members of the military how would a mother, if she had a son or a daughter posted in south korea. posted in japan. this is serious stuff. coming up, we re going to talk looks like someone else has been e-mailing on private e-mails. we re going to be talking about that when we come back. amazing. jared kushner, after all that happened, the criticism, remember lock her up? now jared kushner seems to be using private e-mails, even though he is a member of the administration. and we re watching markets this morning. remember angela merkel secured her fourth term over the weekend. the markets have been on a run. facebook and some other social media 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washington. fewer than 100 e-mails from january to august were sent to or returned by mr. kushner to colleagues in the white house from his personal e-mail account. these were usually forwarded news articles or political commentary and most often occurred when someone initiated the exchange by sending an e-mail to his personal rather than white house address. joining us now is the politico reporter who problem the story, josh dawsey. a personal e-mail address and a private e-mail server, those are two different things. correct. we do not know if it was a separate e-mail server here. we do know that in december when they moved to washington, jared and ivanka created a personal family e-mail account. jared has used that intermittently throughout the last eight months to correspondent with white house officials, others close to the administration, about his father-in-law, while also sometimes using his white house official account. he s used both at the same time. do we have a sense of what sort of information was exchanged and whether any was classified? his lawyer said it was mostly articles, which are of little concern. what else do we know? i want to be fair. we do not know if there was classified or sensitive information shared on this private e-mail account. lawyers say no. it is we re dicki iwe re digo find out exactly what was in there. it s been difficult to figure out, obviously, because it is a private e-mail account and it is not a government account, where you can get records or go through the presidential records act. we re trying to assess what is exactly in there. we know there are hundreds and hundreds of e-mails, corresponding with different issues. the hypocrisy is sticking out to a lot of people. lock her up is based on her using the private e-mail server. the argument could be made, these are people who jared knew personally and they only had this address, but it wasn t just friends and associates outside of the administration. there were e-mails with gary cohn, steve bannon, a number of people who are part of the administration. isn t that the case? it was a sharp, potent attack. hillary clinton e-mail server, accusing her of having something to hide. below the table behavior, an fbi investigation. it was one of the president s sharpest tri teak esest critique trail. to be fair, others have done this, as well. we reported today, reince priebus and steve bannon also used a private e-mail account to correspondent to other white house officials. the use is pervasive in the white house, which is ironic after the theme of the campaign that dominated hillary clinton. okay. we should point out then, in the spirit of to be fair, it s to be fair, other people were also exhibiting hypocritical behavior. not that if reince did it, it is okay. it is not okay across the board. correct. jared kushner was a top adviser to the president though. he s probably the most well-known official in the white house. his behavior kind of shows how close something like this could get to the president. josh, good to talk to you. thank you for your reporting. josh dawsey. thanks for having me. or the complaints we hear, reporting of those who said jared and ivanka don t follow protocol, behave like they re royals. maybe it is things like this. you go. go ahead. you. stand by. we ll go to capitol hill for an update on obamacare. republicans revised the latest led legislation to get key votes. does the graham/cassidy bill have a chance of passing? . ith advanced manufacturing that brings big ideas to life. and cutting-edge transportation development to connect those ideas to the world. along with urban redevelopment projects worthy of the world s top talent. here and all across new york state, we re building the new new york. to grow your business with us in the southern tier, visit esd.ny.gov. new or worse depression, unusual changes in mood or behavior, swelling, trouble breathing, rash, hives, blisters, muscle pain with fever, tired 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sentenced to 21 months in prison for sectioning a 15-year-old girl last year. the sentence was handed down this mornin gmorning. he ll have to register as a sex offender. my god. look at the line outside of the hearing room this morning, where the single hearing on the graham/cassidy bill will be held this afternoon. over the weekend, ted cruz voiced his disapproval of the bill in austin. right now, they don t have my ve voe vote and i don t think they have mike lee s either. i want to get there. obamacare is a disaster. there is work to be done. the price to getting there, i believe, is focusing on consumer freedom. both cruz and lee are noes, that d seal the bill s fate, since republicans can only lose two members. mccain and paul already said they re voting no. if a bill is not signed by the end of the week, the bar goes back to 60 votes to pass a repeal. the congressional budget office hopes to have limited analysis out by today. joining us now, garrett hauck, li haake, live outside the hearing room. september 30th is coming on fast. reporter: they thought they had a plan. the idea here on this second draft was to sweeten the pot for alaska. maybe get lisa murkowski back on board. and weaken some of the protections. allow states to be a little more flexible in the plans, which would be something ted cruz, mike lee and some of the conservatives talked about for a long time. this is what they re up against. i want to show you what s going on outside the hearing room. this line started very early this morning. it has built into the hundreds of people running through the whole senate office building. it is like the rally atmosphere. we ve had people chanting. people singing. we ve had people doing interviews. every time a democratic senator comes by, the crowd goes nuts. they re pleading with these people to kill this bill. that s what republican lawmakers are going to walk into today. despite those technical changes to the bill, essentially, may be too late. you ve already mentioned the two hard no votes, rand paul and john mccain. there s nothing in the changes of the bill over the weekend that will bring them back on board. a lot of these people out here are waiting for susan collins to make her lean no into a no no. potentially at some point today when a cbo score comes out. that could turn this hallway into a party situation here, from a rally situation right now. there is a lot of pressure being placed on these holdout lawmakers in a lot of different ways out here today. it s going to be tough for republicans to put this thing over the finish line. they ve got some sort of changes to the plan. obviously the cbo won t have a chance to look at those, though the bottom line is, they ll be some initial cbo measure. that was a sticking point for susan collins in particular. she wanted to see a score before she would make a final decision. reporter: right. what you ll end up with is a cbo report that is essentially the bottom line. they ll say whether or not this complies with reconciliation rules. some broad picture of how much it costs. all the finer point analysis that cbo typically does we re getting moved by capitol police, trying to keep the hallway clear all the stuff that the cbo does isn t going to happen. susan collins, lisa murkowski, some of the other senators have been going to anyone else that can provide them with data. the federal government, the cms, or groups like the kaiser foundation, to try and get those numbers. again, to your point, ali, susan collins is not going to get what she wants from the cbo today. she ll get a couple of lines. not a full report about how this affects her state or the rest of the country. she has been very clear all along that she wants that kind of information before she casts such a big vote. as does john mccain. garrett, i make this point, if there s something one with learn from obamacare, don t jam it through. why do we do this? instead of saying push it through by september 30th, forget about getting 50. go for 60 votes. go for bipartisanship. yup. find a long-term solution. there s nobody in the country who doesn t think obamacare could use some repair. you can get 60 votes. you can get more if you really obama says it. have hearings, listen to people and take input. this is not the way legislation should work. the problem solvers caucus didn t start for giggles. they want to create bipartisan solutions. maybe listen to them. forget about september 30th. i think 60 could be easier than 50. next, trump s cabinet is full of millionaires and billionaires. what happens when they re big spenders with taxpayer money. a new report singles out secretary tom price. weaver goi we re going to break down the hundreds of thousands of dollars he spent on a private jet just since may. we re going to hear president trump s response. kevin, meet your father. kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin kevin trusted advice for life. kevin, how s your 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ouch. that didn t age well. that, of course, was health and human services secretary tom price, as a senator from georgia. but a new report found price himself took expensive, private jets more than 24 times since the month of may. five of those trips took place over the span of just three days. he took more trips even after questions were raised, including to oklahoma just last week, which costs more than $50,000 according to politico. an hofficial spokesperson said the trip had been already booked. charter aircraft can be used for official travel. take a look at one of the trips. washington, d.c. to philadelphia, pennsylvania. hard to imagine you cannot reasonably get there commercially. in fact, politico notes a united flight took off from dulles for philadelphia five minutes before price s charter jet. united booking site shows the flight typically costs about $724 round trip. that s just a little under the $8,000 for 11 people that reported the size of price s group. his private jet, that cost $25,000. that is more than the cost of three round-trip flights for all 11 people. train and car travel would be cheaper. the $25,000 is the cost of two out of the five trips tom price made that week. there are at least 20 more flights coming to light. this is all on the heels of the scrutiny over treasury secretary, the guy who runs the money, scrutiny over his travel. allegedly requesting a government jet for his honeymoon and accused of scheduling government travel to coincide with last month s solar eclipse. even epa administrator scott pruitt is under fire for travel. $12,000 in taxpayer funded travel from d.c. to oklahoma. spending 43 of his first 92 days in the post in his home state. the price tag so far on the hhs secretary s travel, ready, $400,000. his counterparts in the obama administration, they flew commercial, using private jets to access only remote parts of alaska. secretary price addressed the controversy on fox this past weekend. we ve heard the criticism. we ve heard the concerns. we take that very seriously. the optics in some of this don t look good, and that s why we, again, have taken this criticism to heart. i don t think there d be any charter trips until this review is completcomplete. i think it is appropriate. and at the white house yesterday, president trump was asked about the private travel. using private charter flights as a taxpayer expense? who did? your secretary mnuchin, secretary price. you ll have to ask him about that. i don t know. do you think it is appropriate? as far as secretary price is concerned, that s different. we re looking into it. they re looking into it. the party that calls for fiscal responsibility could take a page from a member of the former administration. you remember vice president joe biden. his famous love of amtrak led to this scene on inauguration day earlier this year. one final boarding of a train on union station to take to biden s home state of del caaware. what else do you say but wow? joe biden was known, people would see him on the amtrak, going back and forth. i don t understand why the president, a, hadn t heard about it because he follows the think mnuchin stuff is different. there was the idea he went to fort knox and did schedule it around the solar eclipse. then he tweeted about it. he tweeted sort of an insulting tweet about the whole idea. this has to be looked at. it s one thing if you don t brag about the fact you re not there to the cut costs, but if you are bragging about it, you have to cut costs. manuchin said he needed it fr security reasons on his honeymoon but then was told no, you don t. it s just stunning to simply make the argument in tom price s case, he s taking flights so he can get to see the people. you can see the people in philly if you take the train. from new york, i go from d.c. i can tell you the best deals and when they happen. hurricane maria as it weakens, still a category 1 hurricane. it s threatening portions of north carolina with tropical storm weather it s it s out in the ocean. we can t lose focus on puerto rico and the larger caribbean riddled with massive, massive power loss, flooding, severe agricultural damage, severe infrastructure damage. and cell phones that still aren t working. a dam in puerto rico weakened by maria s punishing winds remains a danger if it fails, 70,000 more people could be at risk. the island s governor urged residents in the area of the dam to evacuate. let s bring in nbc s tammy leitner live in san juan. you ve been there almost a week. you re in san juan. many people in puerto rico can t even communicate with their families especially people. vieques. is there any progress? reporter: you know, steph, a little bit of progress. we re seeing a little. i want to show you this debris that people are cleaning out of their businesses, out of their homes. people are just starting to do this. this is going to take days, weeks, months. i m actually here walking in the bus lane. we ve seen a couple buss go by this morning, a little sign of progress. i can tell you limited public transportation started back up this morning at 7:00 a.m. trash pickup started. but take a look at this. this far lane is the line for gas. now, that line each day should be getting shorter. not longer. but we re seeing each day the line gets longer which shows there is very little gas right now for people to get. ali? talk to us about what people are going to do there when the airports open. i m spoken to some who have said. they re going to get on the first flight out. they re out of there. we could face a mass migration situation. that s 3 million people are uz citizens who could be making the continental united states their new home. reporter: absolutely. absolutely. we ve spoken with a number of people that tell me they feel as though they will have no choice. they are willing to abandon their homes, what s left of their homes, their possessions, their family, friends, to leave puerto rico because they feel that the recovery is going to be too long. months and months and months. they don t think they can hold out. a lot of people are head together states as soon as they can get a flight out. all right. tami, what is the. they ll be able to vote. governor rick scott, they can vote. let s talk about assistance from the federal government. we ve been talking to fema about the stuff going in there, bottled water, generators, fuel. how is that coming along? reporter: very slowly. again did, the gas line, people don t have the basic necessities. they don t have gas. they don t have fuel. people need fuel for generators because they have no power still. there s a complete blackout across the entire island. basic necessities, food, water desperate cries for water. we ve traveled to a number of towns. the one plea we keep hearing over and over is we need water. so far the government has not managed to get a large water supply new as normally happens with a catastrophe. we re going on a week here. a lot of people are asking when is the water coming. > this is more serious than florida and texas because you can drive it from alaska to texas. i told you last week, what breaks my heart, when i was going from st. john to puerto rico and i was at the port, there was cases and cases of water being sent from puerto rico to the virgin islands. now they need it. tammy leitner, thank you. thank you for staying there and continuing to cover this very important story. in light of that ongoing fight about confederate monuments in this country, we want to introduce to you monumental american who s may be deserving of a statue. today it s the author, poet and civil rights activist, maya angelou. she was born in st. louis in 1928 as a civil rights activist, she worked alongside martin luther king and mam come junior. she also worked as a cook, nightclub dancer, actor and journalist covering the decolonization of africa. her first memoir i know why the caged bird sings, talked about the abuses she suffered as a girl that launched a literary career that spanned more than 50 years. she was nominated for a pulitzer prize, tony award and three grammys for literary recordings. in 2011, she received the medal of freedom from president obama. she died in 2014 at the age of 86. full have a monumental american in mind, tweet us at velshi rhule. what s the secret to turning a no into a yes? 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