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Now. chris kise is asking judge engoron once again if he would reconsider allowing president trump to address the court for two to three minutes. he said that you said addressing the judge in your own email you would benefit, you the judge would benefit and that no one is more affected than donald trump. i m refreshing this google doc from our reporters inside the courtroom to see what judge engoron says. we have joyce vance back with us. joyce, you know what, let me give you a little bit more. judge engoron says if i let you speak for five minutes, will you focus on the facts and not go outside? trump says the financial statements are perfect. the banks got all their money. the banks are happy as they can be. they were not defrauded, and there was i got to wait for this document to update. it sounds like engoron might be leaning toward a yes depending on trump s answer here. you know, this is so unusual,
Colleague, joyce. that s a great point. let s just focus on what the law is here with respect to all seven causes of action. that s going to be what governs this case as the judgeas held as yasmin said in connection with the first cause of action. to the first cause of action where liability has been found, the judge did not have to find whether there was an intent to defraud. that was not required in the first cause of action. it would be required if he finds liability for cause of actions two through seven. to your point, it is not required that the bank actually rely on the false statements. one of the reasons that people put in exaggerated statements to get a bank loan is because they want to maximize the chance that the loan will be approved.
That s the way it s reflected in the polls. to talk about this and play victim, if he is convicted and has to pay a fine, having a chance to say he has been unfairly targeted, those messages, whether they are right or wrong, almost always resonate with his base. that leads to the increase in polling and to people supporting him. what do we know about his finances and whether he can afford to pay this money back? that s a good question. i don t have any specific intel on that. the reporting has shown he is not as wealthy as he says he is. that said, whether or not he would end up paying a fine that he is levied at all i think is an open question. joyce, the attorney general and her team not her specifically, but her team will give closing arguments after trump s team is done, which should be soon. what do you think she will that team will say to encourage
In which there was a show of hands, who wants to hear from hunter biden today. of course, we saw that was clearly split down the aisle with no republicans raising their hands. it was intended to make a point more than anything. he was willing to talk, just not behind closed doors. thank you very much. back with us, joyce vance and andrew weissmann. joyce, let s start with you. hunter biden is facing serious charges. all that money has been paid back. what do you anticipate happening? the first thing we will see, and the fact the money is paid back i think wil be the springboard, is a series of arguments made by hunter biden s lawyers suggesting the charges should be dismissed. like any other american who finds themselves under indictment, biden will likely have to make a decision down the road, re-visiting this early spectacle we saw in a delaware